User talk:Sudopeople

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Sudopeople! Thank you for your contributions. I am Ellin Beltz and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Hello! Sudopeople, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Ellin Beltz (talk) 00:13, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 2014

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:KTM, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:00, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You should be tea bagged for suggesting someone go masturbate

Your suggestion someone go masturbate is a clear violation of appropiate behavior and should result in an immediate block and possible ban if you continue to harass users whether they are blocked or not. Your skilled use of wiki alphabet soup also leads me to believe you are sock of a previously banned editor. You showed up in Feb 2014 and already have a very high level of knowledge that does not match your edit count. 172.56.11.229 (talk) 02:13, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's a healthy habit and it's a hell of a lot more productive than trolling the Interwebz, although it does involve more cleanup. Anyway, I highly recommend it to anyone.

You've got some stellar sleuthing skills there! And thanks for the compliment. I've learned a lot in the last couple of months. I've always been a quick learner. You probably won't believe this, but I didn't know a single thing about how vandals were blocked or banned until you came into my life. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for helping me improve myself a little more today. sudo people 06:41, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IP's are people too

Hi Sudopeople,

I saw your Teahouse question on "Talk Page Vandalism". I understand all too well how frustrating editing on Wikipedia can sometimes be and how hard it can be to remain calm when dealing with other editors, especially when you feel they are not really here to build an encyclopedia. Please do try, however, to keep your cool and remain civil. Sometimes the best thing to do when things get really frustrating is to "go take the dog for a walk" and let things cool down. If your arguments are sound and policy based, they will be recognized and supported by other editors; On the other hand, if you say something in the "heat of battle" that is inappropriate like you did with this edit , it could come back to bite you at some later date. Also, try and remember that IP editors are people too. Although registering an account is encouraged, it is not a prerequisite for editing on Wikipedia. Lots of valuable contributions are made by IP editors, so being an IP does not mean a person is solely here for disruptive purposes and that they are incapable discussing things in a constructive way. The same rules apply to us all, registered and IP; therefore, it's a good idea to try and always assume good faith with respect to any editor. If an editor is really only here to cause problems, their behavior will be noticed soon enough, and most likely they will end up hanging themselves. The key is not to let them bait you into joining them in their fate. This is just meant as some friendly advice, so I hope it is taken as such. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly: Thanks for the kind words and sage advice. You've hit the nail on the head with just about everything you've said. Of course I intended to walk the line with that edit so I'm not surprised at all it was noticed by a sysop or two. Just out of curiosity, was the Wikilink to masturbation the only part of my edit that seemed inappropriate to you? sudo people 05:39, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I am not a sysop and I don't play one on TV. I was just offering some friendly advice based upon my limited experience on Wikipedia. I wasn't "warning" you of ill-things to come if you didn't mend your ways.

If it were me personally, I would've avoided the reference to "maturbation" in such a way no matter how satisfying it may feel to throw it out there. I also would've have avoided referencing "trolling" and "create an account like an adult" simply because they are commenting more on behavior than on content and are not going to increase the other editor's desire to collaborate. I would have tried to use WP:UNDUE, WP:UNSOURCED, WP:NOTOPINION, WP:NOR, etc. to state my case while leaving out as much of that other "stuff" as possible. FWIW, I also would've avoided posting "He's now blocked, so that's nice." in my Teahouse post too simply because that kind of thing only tends to make things worst. I apologize if I sound preachy; we all have different ways of working things out. I tend to try and rely on strict interpretations of policy and guidelines whenever possible, but for some that's just being pedantic. Oh well, obla di obla da. Happy editing.

- Marchjuly (talk) 06:08, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly: No, no. I probably sounded sarcastic when I thanked you. I always do, even in person.

I really love some of the messages I've gotten since I've been more active on Wikipedia. When I've made mistakes, people tend to tell me in the nicest, sweetest way possible, like you have here. That's not at all my style. I don't have the patience, generally. I would like to be more mellow most of the time...I keep telling myself it will come with age, hahaha. Anyway, I'm a big fan of the policies here in almost every case and I cite them more and more, so thanks for your recommendations.

I hadn't thought about the impact that statement might have had in the Teahouse. I figured that would only bolster my case for deletion. I suppose I could have said that in a better way. That's exactly why I asked for your take on all of it. So again, thanks for that.

I'll also add that you've had an immediate influence on me as my comment in the section above shows. sudo people 06:43, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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It would be nice if you stop ...

... attacking me for attempting to make articles better. Please engage in discussions, respond to the points made, stop questioning my motivations, and completely ignoring WP:AGF in the process. - Cwobeel (talk) 04:31, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Arab Winter

Mediation case is closed. Will you work on the draft? --George Ho (talk) 10:40, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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