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Mind revoking tpa?

Here. jellyfish ✉ 20:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sunuraju/Archive

I just seen that this was closed. Was the behavioral evidence reviewed? I am not sure how much more evidence would be required. I have a ton I can post but as stated I didn't want to create an even larger wall of text. CNMall41 (talk) 04:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it was. It should tell you something that at least 4 CUs/admins looked at that case and all of them declined to block. Spicy (talk) 10:03, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There were blocks of other accounts, but I am speaking specifically about Sunuraju. Izno stated on 11/16 that they declined to block (on the behavior evidence presented at that time) but there was a reasonably valid concern of UPE. I offered to provide more evidence (again, tried to avoid a wall of text as I know reviewing all that information takes time) and noted private email evidence was sent. Didn't get a reply to anything until I saw it closed and came here. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of which accounts I checked, thank you. Users (some of which are socks) collaborating on drafts of popular TV shows and movies isn't especially convincing evidence. For instance, see all of the edits that were made to Wicked (2024 film) while it was in draftspace. My opinion - and Izno's too, it seems - are that there are reasonable grounds for suspicion of UPE or improper coordination, but the evidence is not strong enough to sustain a block for such. The fact that the case stayed open for more than a month with no action towards Sunuraju suggests that numerous others also looked at it and did not find the evidence sufficiently convincing. SPI isn't the proper venue for UPE concerns anyway. Those should go to COIN or ANI. Spicy (talk) 21:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]