User talk:SpacemanSpiff/Archives/2015/July
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Some contents are not true and used to defame the communities long prosperous history
Hi,
Yadav's are Elite class. Saying that they are not non-elite is incorrect. They build historial kingdom, they are cow hearders, farmer and warriors then how they become non-elite to you. Kindly revert to the edited content that I have added. It's Defame the communities long prosperous history. It seems you are potraying this content in wrong way with manupulated content.
Regards, V
- Please read our verifiability policy and our reliable sources policy. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and we report what such sources have written. Also, as noted in the talk page, the article is subject to discretionary sanctions, —SpacemanSpiff 08:23, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
Thank you for reviewing my and my teammate's work... Vinitagangurde (talk) 18:59, 1 July 2015 (UTC) |
A barnstar for you!
The Editor's Barnstar | |
you are the best in helping as well as in editing. Kultheakash12 (talk) 05:42, 3 July 2015 (UTC) |
Hi
Hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by EshaTewari (talk • contribs) 18:00, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
hello sir ... its really good to have u with us .your kumbh mela book link had helped us alot and the reference which u ve added are really helping us alot. thanks sir and have a nice day. Kultheakash12 (talk) 05:39, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Glad to be of help, and please refer to people here by their username, no sirs or ma'ams around :) —SpacemanSpiff 08:31, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
S Janaki page
What do u know about S.Janaki... Who are u to remove sjanaki.net, Janaki amma's website from page...?Godvinppp (talk) 09:21, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- This isn't the place for you to spam your links. —SpacemanSpiff 09:21, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Go to some non famous Singer's pages..like P Sushoola, Vani Jayaram..and all...everyone included sites... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Godvinppp (talk • contribs) 09:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
If u do more edits in S Janaki page... let us see... She is our goddess and Queen of S.Indian music... Godvinppp (talk) 09:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
U may blocked if u do further changes in s janaki page...who told u that the link I provided is spam...? Why r u even removing further details if janaki amma...? U don't want to interfere in that page anymore... R u jealousy with janaki amma... ? F**K Godvinppp (talk) 11:20, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- You seem to be confusing Wikipedia for a fansite, please do not. This is an encyclopaedia. —SpacemanSpiff 11:22, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
U don't want to edit s janaki page anymore...there is other people with great knowledge about s janaki and her songs to edit...who told u that website I provided is spam..? R u playing... We are close to s janaki amma and we know how to edit that page... U may be blocked if u try to do more edits... F**K — Preceding unsigned comment added by Godvinppp (talk • contribs) 11:34, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
MIT Kumbathon
- Thank You for your valuable time. I'm the new one for Wikipedia.so like this please help me to make it better place and guide me.Vinitagangurde (talk) 18:52, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hey this is Adesh Chopade. First of all sorry for adding copyrighted contents. Me and my group added all those information. Among the things that you removed there was a lot of info worth mentionable. We are new to wikipedia so please help us out. And most of the info was taken from government websites which was a reliable source. So maybe if it can be restored help us with it. Adesh31 (talk) 19:09, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Can you answer the following questions please, as it would help me understand the scope of your work better:
- Is this a school project?
- Does your course instructor/teacher also have an account, and if so can you point me to that?
- I hope you have read the above info regarding copyrights and will be able to follow it, can you also make sure that your friends also read it?
- I have also left a welcome message with links to our policies and guidelines for you and your friends that will be helpful for you to contribute, please also ensure that they go through it too.
- No its not a school project, we are doing this as a part of MIT Kumbhathon, you can google it.
Kumbhmela is being held this year in nashik so we are trying to add more info about nashik on the wikipedia page. And i'm reading the info about copyrights and i'll make sure my freinds read it too. Adesh31 (talk) 19:23, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- It is not any project that we are doing. It just an initiative by me and my friends and citizens of Nashik to make it better .If you can guide us it will be great help ...Vinitagangurde (talk) 19:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Adesh31:, @Vinitagangurde: To keep the conversation logical and in one place, I'll reply here and ping you. I'll include a ping to you, so you'll see the red notification button on the top of your screen and if you click it, you'll see that I might have pinged you, that'd mean you have a message here.
- First off, even if this isn't a class project, I suggest you all make use of
- That module is a very friendly guide to writing on Wikipedia and will take you through the process of referencing, adding content, photographs and images, maps, and also help you with basic copyright policies.
- Now, going to the specific problems in your group's edits, you have used a variety of sources, some of them government sources, some of them others etc. Now our reliable sources guideline will tell you how to identify something that's a good source. e.g. the government sources used by Adesh would qualify as reliable sources for geographic information. However, when the source says something like "XYZ is a large city located in ABC district with a population of 6 lakh people and is 123 square km in size", you can not copy that into a Wikipedia article, you'll have to paraphrase into your own words and say something like "XYZ is a city inhabited by 6,00,000 people and has an area of 123 square km. It is a part of ABC district".
- However for information like Naga Sadhus etc that one of your friends had added, the source would not have been acceptable. For such kind of information you'll have to find some scholarly sources such as books and journals or even newspaper articles that have some in depth analysis and are subject to editorial review and have a reputation for fact checking. e.g. I searched for resources on Google and found this book to have some information.
- Hope this helps, do chime in if you have more questions after you go through the training module etc. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 19:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestion...Like this please do keep guiding us....Vinitagangurde (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks...this time we will try to add the information properly.
Above msg by me Adesh31 (talk) 02:35, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Adesh31:, @Vinitagangurde: This edit by one of your friends is problematic for the following reasons:
- While editing, they have removed the Administration section.
- Added sources that do not meet our reliable source guideline and also fall short of our external links guidelines: such as sourcing the content to your college camera club, and to the Kumbathon website. When you reference content, it has to be sourced to third party sources independent of the subject, so if you're writing about what Kumbathon is doing, it should be sourced to a newspaper that Kumbathon is doing this, likewise, a newspaper saying that the MIT camera club is doing this.
- Please alert your friend to this, and also, as you are aware of the issues now, I hope you can also go through the contributions of the other participants and make sure that things are ok. I saw Adesh's edit and that is exactly how we need content paraphrased from the source. Hope this helps. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:12, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. We have a few new guys who are editing as well. So if you find their content not appropriate for wikipedia, message me that topic and i will edit it as per Wikipedias guidelines. Adesh31 (talk) 07:19, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Adesh31:, @Vinitagangurde: Here, I've had to remove some content for the following reasons (some of it may not be related to your group):
- Wikimapia is not a reliable source for anything and shouldn't be used as a source
- When listing notable personalities, they should have an article here and there should be referencing that they are from Nashik
- The Mythology-Astrology sections were copy vios and/or very close paraphrising with the original, something which we cannot accept.
- cheers, —SpacemanSpiff 14:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing it out. Will keep that in mind while adding new info. Adesh31 (talk) 15:18, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing it. We will keep these thing in mind...Vinitagangurde (talk) 16:55, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Adesh31:, @Vinitagangurde: In this edit I cleaned up your entry to the coin museum section. Please note that Wikipedia should not appear to be providing advice to anyone. Wikipedia is meant to document the significance of a place, person, or other subject in a disinterested manner attributed to third party sources. Also, can you tell me what other pages your group is working on? —SpacemanSpiff 04:30, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Adesh31 and Vinitagangurde: two additional tips/requests:
- Can one of you create a master list of of all the participants in your volunteer group somewhere in your userspace? That will make it easier to communicate, and also distinguish edits made by your group to Nashik, Kumbha Mela etc from ones made by unrelated editors to those pages.
- Also consider starting an article on 2015 Kumbha Mela. That can contain details about the particular details about this years Kumbha Mela (such as dates for various events, security arrangements, any controversies etc) that may be undue n the main city or Kumbha Mela page. (compare from Cricket World Cup, 2015 Cricket World Cup etc)
- If you have any questions about the above two suggestions, feel free to ask here and Spaceman or I will try to respond asap. Abecedare (talk) 19:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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Extend Nehru protection?
In light of this; the news-coverage is likely to attract more copycats. If you are involved, can ping NeilN. Abecedare (talk) 04:44, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not involved in this mess one bit :) JN and MN are still under protection, though I can't figure out why GN went off, I assumed it was under a week like the others. I'll readd it.—SpacemanSpiff 04:51, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Vinitaa Apte
Dr. Vinitaa Apte has recreated Dr. Vinitaa Apte again. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 05:35, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Sigh, addressed. —SpacemanSpiff 06:32, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Indian Institute of Technology(BHU),Varanasi Page
Kindly note that the name of the institute is Indian Institute of Technolgy(BHU),Varanasi and not Indian Institute of Technology,BHU.This can be verified by the institute website www.iitbhu.ac.in.Some elements changed the official name on wikipedia and so I had copy pasted and created the wiki page reflecting the official name.Your deleting it is not fair — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.60.42.0 (talk) 12:54, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- We use common names, not official names. Also, as was explained to you, you can not just copy and paste content from one page to create another. Please use the WP:MOVE process if you think a title should be changed. —SpacemanSpiff 13:02, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
m not using any soapboxing, promotion terms in Raheja developers page.
Ncrboy (talk) 04:59, 5 July 2015 (UTC) I am not using any content that usses soapboxing or promotionNcrboy (talk)
- Let's be clear, all you're doing is inserting irrelevant interviews as external links. This has been going on in the page for a long time. If you continue, you're going to be blocked. —SpacemanSpiff 05:04, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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Old copyvio in userspace
Hello, SpacemanSpiff! I happened across User:PBSwiki/The Prayer Book Society, which is probably the ‘final draft‘ of an article you deleted from mainspace as a CSD-G12 on 2009-12-22. The editor made no further contributions after posting here later that day. Since non-free material isn‘t allowed in user space any more than the public-facing areas I was just going to tag it, but decided to contact you first in case you’d corresponded with the editor (whose handle seems noncompliant with WP:ORGNAME BTW) or there might be some cause for particular discretion. But I guess it was just overlooked … if you‘d rather I follow the standard procedure, just let me know.—Odysseus1479 05:22, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Odysseus1479 I've deleted the page, no discretion, I just seemed to have missed it then. As far as the username goes, I typically don't get involved with COI names and typically just let them get reported on the noticeboard where someone who works on usernames blocks addresses it (unless there's disruptive activity from the account).—SpacemanSpiff 11:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Odysseus1479:, pinging afresh since I seemed to have pinked you earlier. —SpacemanSpiff 11:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Mumbai test edits
no, it was not a test, it was to tell someone that i did not make a certain edit
no it was not a test it was to tell someone that i did not make an edit--151.224.46.109 (talk) 11:33, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Above user undid an edit of mine, called me a tart and in response to a warning left on their talk page told me to 'Fuck Off'. How nice of them --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:24, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Tamil communities
Why did you revert the Tamil communities information that was posted? Everything posted was factual information. As you your self have said, Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and as you probably know the Tamil people are not a homegenous community, like the Koreans, so that was valuable factual information that was posted. And there was no negativity in the post. Thank you.
- You can't just go adding what you feel like to our articles, please read WP:NOR and WP:V to understand our policy that covers this. —SpacemanSpiff 12:13, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the prompt reply. I am new to Wikipedia. On my second edit I did not include any original research but merely posted links to existing articles which have their own pages with citations. Please tell me how I go about explaining the diversity within the Tamil communities similar to the information on the Malayalee wiki page. As you yourself have acknowledged Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and so it is only fair that the non-Tamil laymen have ready access to this information without having to dig deep into the subject. Otherwise is this not considered censorship on your part? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.23.150.108 (talk) 12:22, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- The Tamils article in particular is already a featured article, meaning that it has been evaluated and been found to be comprehensive. Besides, there's nothing to be gained by providing a list of castes or for opinions on whether or not some consider themselves Dravidian etc. As for the comparison with the Malayali page, that page needs cleaning up! While the Tamils page has deteriorated over the years, it is not due to a lack of content but rather due to an influx of extraneous content. Other examples of articles to compare the Tamils article would be Toraja or India which have also gone through rigorous review of content, sourcing, language etc. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 12:29, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
As I have mentioned before I am new to Wikipedia so please bear with me. I disagree with your statement that the diversity amongst the Tamil community is not an important topic. Are you telling me that customs that Iyers follow and the customs that Kallars follow are similar and that the non-Tamilian layman should not have ready access to this vital information? The kallars and Iyersare worlds apart each having their own wonderful traditions. In the Swiss People page. The article mentions the differences of the communities that live there. There are "German-speaking Swiss", French-speaking Swiss, Italian-speaking Swiss, and the Romansh people. These topics are elaborated upon and also have links to other wiki pages. Yes all Tamil communities speak the Tamil language but there are cultural differences amongst the community. The Piramali Kallars were known to use the Valarai for hunting and war time.. this is very interesting information that non-Tamilians need to have access to.
On this page:
Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary
It says:
"Don't revert an edit because it is unnecessary — because it does not improve the article. For a reversion to be appropriate, the reverted edit must actually make the article worse. Wikipedia does not have a bias toward the status quo (except in cases of fully developed disputes, while they are being resolved). In fact, Wikipedia has a bias toward change, as a means of maximizing quality by maximizing participation."
I do not believe that by me writing about factual communities that exist within the Tamil community I am making the article worse. And with all due respect, it is your opinion that the Tamil community topic is extraneous content.
Say you wanted to learn about some tribe in Papua New Guinea, would you not expect an encyclopaedia to mention that there are various sects within the community that have very unique practises?? In my opinion I do not like care too much for the "Weapons" section of the Tamil article because what ethnicity did not have access to spears and swords. That I believe is extraneous :D But by reverting the community topic, it is my opinion that you are doing a disservice to the Wikipedia community whom, I believe, rather have an article which gives them more insight into the their search query..
I agreed that it was wrong of me to write my personal research on the different Tamil communities but I do not see what problem you have with me linking to other wiki articles containg second source citation of the various Tamil communities.
Tell me something, are the Tamils a monolithic community?? Do not the Gounders who residein in Kongu Nadu seldom if ever marry with say the Maravars of southern Tamil Nadu? With out the Community link would the non-Tamilian layamen ever come to learn about the Gounder or Maravar community?? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.23.150.108 (talk) 13:25, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have tried explaining the policies to you, but you don't seem to be in a mood to listen and are trying to hide behind the "I'm new here" bit, so even if I don't revert, someone else will. I'm also going to leave you a couple of other notes on your talk page detailing sanctions on these articles. —SpacemanSpiff 13:28, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
I am not trying to hide behind anything. I mearly asked you to bear with me, because I am new here. I am okay with you have having the final say.. because this edit was just a one time thing. I am not a frequent wikipedia editor by any means. Please do not ban me or anything like that. I am more than willing to walk away. Thank you. Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.23.150.108 (talk) 13:38, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have no interest in banning you and even if I did have an interest, I can not as I'm "WP:INVOLVED" in this article. However, other editors/admins can act on that. This business of unsourced addition of castes is precisely why those discretionary sanctions have been imposed on such articles. If you think something should be added, feel free to propose a referenced addition at Talk:Tamils and wait for other editors to chime in and come up with a good version if that's acceptable. Don't just keep adding stuff in. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Swati Jaihind
Hi You have deleted the page Swati Jaihind without giving any chance to discuss on it. A lot unfair and unjust attempts were made last night to vandalise the page. We are in the process of improving the page but wht despite all the credible sources does it seem not wiki worthy? I hope you will be fair and justified in your reply and give adequate chance to discuss before arriving at conclusions.Gautamsingh93 (talk) 02:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- The article was promotional in nature and there wasn't any assertion of importance and qualified for deletion per speedy deletion criteria. —SpacemanSpiff 11:03, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Abruptive editing at Chinna Jeeyar
Why are you putting your personal opinion on chinna jeeyar page against wikipedia policy personal analysis . But putting wrong facts, it is against our policies Wikipedia:Libel. It seems like your continued to perform abruptive behavior against a highly noted person is also against wikipedia policy of Wikipedia:WIKIHATE. You are been warned considerable times but still pursue against wikipedia's policy. If you continue to add your personal opinions to articles or do not adhere to our neutrality guidelines, you will be reported for block. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RamanujaDasa (talk • contribs) 16:31, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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Re: Tamil People
This message has been sent in response to your recent message regarding my edit to the page "Tamil people". The images added by me to the article were uploaded to Wikipedia Commons and are free for anyone to use. Please stop reverting the edits without caution and scrutiny. Repeating irresponsible reversion and unconstructive edits may result you in getting blocked and not able to use Wikipedia ever again. Thank you. Have a good day. -Sabarikarthik1991
This is your final warning. If you keep on reverting edits without any substantial evidence to prove that there are any copyrighted images being added you will be reported and permanently banned from Wikipedia herein. Thanks. - Sabarikarthik1991 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabarikarthik1991 (talk • contribs) 08:47, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Page on Paul Morphy
Hi spiff,
I have updated the page Paul Morphy, with the correct link. Without explanation, it has been removed. I have given a valid explanation and the reference link as well. I kindly request you to go through the reference link before removing my post.
May i know the reason why it has been removed?
Thanks, Regards, Vignesh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vignesh9891 (talk • contribs) 06:36, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- You need to stop socking to push your pov on both the Anand and Morphy articles. You've been warned multiple times as an IP, continuing to do so will result in a block. —SpacemanSpiff 07:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi Spiff,
Thanks for your reply. The content which i added for anand is his 61.5% winning which is taken from www.chessgames.com. It is a world wide website and it contains the chess games of anand. The calculations are indeed correct. I gave the reference link as well.
if you can you go through it again, it would be good.
Thanks, Kind regards, Vignesh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vignesh9891 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- There are multiple problems with your edits. It's already been asserted that chessgames is not a reliable source. You are removing non-controversial content because you don't like it. You are adding opinions by selective sourcing. You've got to stop this and either discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess or on the individual article talk pages. Multiple editors have reverted and given an explanation. —SpacemanSpiff 09:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
POV pushing
Hi SpacemanSpiff,
I would like you to go through and offer your opinions concerning this article. Going by the nature of the edits and the arguments presented in the talk page, I believe the user is a sockpuppet of Arjayay and Paiseley52 or could be both. This is the third such stand-off with the person(s) who appears every now and then with the same POV pushing revisions to the article.
I have been forced to revert his edits for sometime now, as there seems to be no possibility of engaging in a discussion with such a character. I hope you could spare some time, and mediate the page.
Thank you and Best regards, --CuCl2 (chat spy acquaint) 13:00, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- I do not have on-wiki time to mediate on this, but relying on one source seems a bit weak especially given that multiple sources are easily available on google books and scholar. Also, if you're going to accuse established editors in good standing such as Arjayjay as being behind sockpuppetry, you better have good evidence, or else this qualifies as a personal attack and no one is going to take you seriously on anything irrespective of the merits of your case. If there's a specific content issue that you need addressed and talk page discussion isn't resolving anything, then you'll need to put it up at WP:RNS or WP:DRN based on the nature of the issue/objections. If it's a behavioral issue, then WP:ANI would be the right venue. —SpacemanSpiff 17:12, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Opinion
Can express your opinion at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Theatres.2C_shopping_malls I saw your previous posts about Indian villages.--Vin09 (talk) 06:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Bikram singh majithia
Hello SpacemanSpiff,
I am not promoting anything in Bikram singh Majithia Wiki page, as you are Giving bad references In his page ,which wikipedia also not accepst it. you are telling that hei s accused of drug addiction ad in reference you are giving bad links, its a warning to you and i am also writing to administrator to look at your wiki status giving bad links.The date of bIRTH IS 1975 AND YOU ARE WRITING 1976,HOW CAN YOU DO SUCH A MISTAKE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshokaChadha (talk • contribs) 07:00, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
You are trying to give false information on Bikram Singh Majithia Page. this is totally wrong..i am Waring you don't do that.. If you try it again then see .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balraj Singh Grewal (talk • contribs) 07:09, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
An ARCA discussion involving you has been created
{{subst:Arbitration CA notice|Imposition of an Arbitration Enforced Sanction against me by Bishonen}}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Imposition_of_an_Arbitration_Enforced_Sanction_against_me_by_Bishonen Soham321 (talk) 20:30, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
One more question
You missed Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Theatres.2C_shopping_malls.--Vin09 (talk) 14:12, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
You Censor
On wikipedia article about Jerry Brown you censored genocide by Junipero Serra which is ignored by California Governor Jerry Brown in Vaticon City. http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article27994771.html
- ???—SpacemanSpiff 16:17, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- You're getting blamed for my PC-1 protection on Jerry Brown. You're welcome! --NeilN talk to me 16:28, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- @NeilN: Ah, I always like to know why we're fighting! —SpacemanSpiff 16:43, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- You're getting blamed for my PC-1 protection on Jerry Brown. You're welcome! --NeilN talk to me 16:28, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Block avoidance
FYI:
- 13:52, 22 July 2015 SpacemanSpiff (talk | contribs) blocked 209.49.242.34 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (talk) with an expiry time of 24 hours (
Now a new user quacks like duck: Js82 (talk · contribs)
Staszek Lem (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, but as long as he is not doing same kind of disruptive editing on article, there is no need to block him. --Human3015 knock knock • 22:18, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- Block avoidance is in violation of policy. A block is a block is a block. Cannot create false illusion that admins may be easily tricked. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- Staszek Lem, You can read block notice, one can log in and continue editing, and he is using talk pages, so no issue of blocking. Wikipedia's policy is to encourage IPs to come with an account and discuss their issues. He is not doing any disruptive editing on article.--Human3015 knock knock • 22:54, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- The log in and edit is for other users who may be on this IP. Judging by the talk page comments, this user isn't here to contribute productively. —SpacemanSpiff 00:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Staszek Lem, the user has been blocked. —SpacemanSpiff 00:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- The log in and edit is for other users who may be on this IP. Judging by the talk page comments, this user isn't here to contribute productively. —SpacemanSpiff 00:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Staszek Lem, You can read block notice, one can log in and continue editing, and he is using talk pages, so no issue of blocking. Wikipedia's policy is to encourage IPs to come with an account and discuss their issues. He is not doing any disruptive editing on article.--Human3015 knock knock • 22:54, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- Block avoidance is in violation of policy. A block is a block is a block. Cannot create false illusion that admins may be easily tricked. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, but as long as he is not doing same kind of disruptive editing on article, there is no need to block him. --Human3015 knock knock • 22:18, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Jjgoatin
First, I love the Calvin & Hobbes themed username! Secondly, I thank you for blocking this user, stopping vandalism until a decision is made. Spartan7W § 03:36, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- No worries. —SpacemanSpiff 03:48, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure this is the blocked user: User:2600:1016:B000:D64E:7995:259B:AA72:580A who is continuing vandalism against the article John Kasich presidential campaign, 2016 Spartan7W § 04:02, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
what the problem???
Please don't delete the page. Kansagara06 (talk) 18:51, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello SpacemanSpiff,
Thanks for your attention at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, the community is proud of you. I think the above page should be salted or what do you think?. Cheers! Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 19:01, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- I had already salted it, that's probably why he moved to pasting it on the other page. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 19:03, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Regards! Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 19:07, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Don't Delete
Don't Delete Kansagara06 (talk) 19:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
MIT Kumbathon 2
hello Spacemanspiff, I would like you to go through Nashik article and review it. Because in couple of days whatever information we edited got reverted. So I want you to keep an eye on it and offer your opinion to us.Vinitagangurde (talk) 19:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Vinitagangurde: A lot of what you had written was moved to History of Nashik, not outright deleted; this was done because the article is meant to be written in WP:Summary style. Some of the content was removed because the article started resembling a telephone directory with the long listing of schools, colleges etc. Also, the best place for you to discuss this would be at Talk:Nashik. I encourage you to take a look at Kolkata which is an excellent article to get an idea of how to write in summary style and also how to condense what external sources have to say. If you people don't mind, I think a better option for you currently would be to work on User:Vinitagangurde/2015 Kumbh Mela where you can add information about this specific event with sources. After a week or so, once the sourcing is good and the structure is good, we can move it to article space. If you do it in your user space, there's less reason (with obvious exceptions of copyvios, promotional or attack content etc) that your edits will be reverted. I'm also pinging Thomas.W and Abecedare as they have also tried to address this in the past. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 19:23, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Your revert on Delhi
Hello. Since you reverted Prashant 015 on Delhi you might want to read a discussion I've had with him on my talk page. Judging by his edits on a number of articles he's a POV-pusher, here only to promote Jats, with dubious sources and edits carefully worded in such a way that they're deliberately misleading. Thomas.W talk 15:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Sigh, I've seen that Philg88 has had a stern word with him, can only hope for the best. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:01, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- He's certainly sailing very close to the wind. @Thomas.W: I'd say give him a final POV warning and see if he listens one last time ... Philg88 ♦talk 16:45, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Philg88: He's already crossed the line, I just gave him a warning for edits with fake references on Aligarh district, references that not in any way support the claims he made, and can even be said to have nothing whatsoever to do with the material added. Thomas.W talk 16:55, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Patience exhausted. Blocked for 24 hours. Philg88 ♦talk 17:18, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Philg88 and Thomas.W. I hope that gets the message across, but at any rate I'm going to drop a
{{uw-castewarning}}
on his talk page, despite the fact that this is not a social group article, the subject of his edits are. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:25, 24 July 2015 (UTC)- You're welcome. Let's hope that the block and the caste warning will do the trick. Philg88 ♦talk 17:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- I've already given him a generic India-Pakistan-Afghanistan warning, so that any article relating to India that he edits would be covered... Thomas.W talk 17:43, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- The GS/Caste sanctions have less bureaucracy and paperwork to them than the ARBIPA sanctions, so it's easier for admins to use them. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:45, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- I don't deal much with caste warriors since I feel it takes someone who knows more about the caste system than I do, so on India-related articles I usually only deal with India-Pakistan POV and editors pushing POV relating to ethnicities, languages and religion, including people falsifying statistics about those subjects in articles. Editors that there are plenty of here on en-WP. Thomas.W talk 17:57, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- While it can't be used for the I-P stuff and the like, it can be used on some of these "ethnicities" like the Jat bit etc, and it helps in dealing with a lot of SPAs who do what you say. —SpacemanSpiff 18:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- I don't deal much with caste warriors since I feel it takes someone who knows more about the caste system than I do, so on India-related articles I usually only deal with India-Pakistan POV and editors pushing POV relating to ethnicities, languages and religion, including people falsifying statistics about those subjects in articles. Editors that there are plenty of here on en-WP. Thomas.W talk 17:57, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- The GS/Caste sanctions have less bureaucracy and paperwork to them than the ARBIPA sanctions, so it's easier for admins to use them. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:45, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Philg88 and Thomas.W. I hope that gets the message across, but at any rate I'm going to drop a
- Patience exhausted. Blocked for 24 hours. Philg88 ♦talk 17:18, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Philg88: He's already crossed the line, I just gave him a warning for edits with fake references on Aligarh district, references that not in any way support the claims he made, and can even be said to have nothing whatsoever to do with the material added. Thomas.W talk 16:55, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- He's certainly sailing very close to the wind. @Thomas.W: I'd say give him a final POV warning and see if he listens one last time ... Philg88 ♦talk 16:45, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
India-Pakistan arbitration amendment request archived
The India-Pakistan arbitration amendment request, which you were listed as a party to, has been archived to [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan. Thank you. For the Arbitration Committee, Jim Carter 06:28, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Contd. Related to talk on my page
Hey, I just want to know what prompted you to leave this Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups notice on my message board? Had I breached any rules because seriously, I didnt "add" unnecessary information, I just changed the presentation cuz the then format was defaming to a group- Kayastha. That too I cited the "same" reliable and used sources. And I can't understand if a particular phrase of the group 'Kayastha' being related with group 'Shudra', shouldn't it easily be toned down a bit ? Do read this, it would be of great help:- Kayastha- Kshatriyas or Shudras? Indianwiki (talk) 18:31, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Main_line.2C_Sections.2C_branch_lines
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Main_line.2C_Sections.2C_branch_lines. Thanks. Vin09 (talk) 15:08, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- You don't need to invite me to discussions on WT:INB as I regularly check the page when I'm active. I really don't have much of an opinion on railway articles though, so I'll likely not comment on this. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 15:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Martial race
Can you take a look at Martial race, please. In among the various recent edits are repeated attempts to add Bhumihar and to removed reliably sourced info. In the past, as at the Bhumihar article itself, this has sometimes been because of socking and sometimes seemed to be more a case of off-wiki co-ordination. I doubt that I can revert any more but that depends a bit on whether it is one person or several. - Sitush (talk) 17:51, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, it is now definitely a sock - another account has turned up with an almost-identical name - Sitush (talk) 17:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- I've semi-protected and left a warning on the latest sock's account. I'm not sure who the real master is, so it might be good to do some digging and take to SPI. —SpacemanSpiff 17:56, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. We've not found a master in years of trying. It is really difficult here at the moment also because for roughly 12 hours from 1500 UTC every day Wikipedia slows down to an absolute crawl, although other websites load ok. How WMF expect to encourage people to edit when it often take 2 or 3 minutes just to get a page on the screen is beyond my comprehension but perhaps it is a localised problem. - Sitush (talk) 17:58, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello why are you reverting my changes?
Hello why are you reverting my changes?
Cynocyno (talk) 14:35, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Cynocyno, I have said this on your talk page here and on your talk page on Commons, you can not upload images in violation of copyright policies and use them within articles. Multiple editors have undone your insertions of copyright violating images, explaining clearly in edit summaries too. Yet, all you do is restore to images that are copyright violations. That has to stop. —SpacemanSpiff 14:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, how can you say that I took from WEBSITE...its all my own clicks..I am close to APJ KALAM's adviser.Do not judge yourself.Show me the proof that I copied from other sites..my last two uploads. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynocyno (talk • contribs) 14:36, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
The other editors said the picture is not nice..Those are my pics...do not dominate our contributions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynocyno (talk • contribs) 14:40, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- We've already deleted one image based on the fact that you took a news image and cropped it. Please do not repeat this, or you're going to be blocked. —SpacemanSpiff 14:44, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Why did you removed my last two picture? Answer me on that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynocyno (talk • contribs) 14:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's the same story there too, you've clearly manipulated the Erode image. This sort of wikilawyering isn't helping your case.—SpacemanSpiff 14:58, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Rabt man
You recently blocked Rabt man (talk · contribs) for their actions at nair. They've just done this and then removed my comment on their talk page after I reverted them at the Ezhava article. - Sitush (talk) 14:53, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hey sitush, I just re-checked the sources and once again found no clear evidence. I am happy to discuss right now any grievances. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabt man (talk • contribs) 14:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- My apologies. You deleted the old block notice, not my comment. However, please can we take this to the article talk page if you are insisting that the stuff is not sourced. I've merged your section into this one - no point in having two, and I'm sure SS would do the same. - Sitush (talk) 15:02, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Um...do you want to discuss somewhere else because this is someone else's user page. Im sure you have the support of Spacemanspiff, but I think it would be better if we talked on your page :). Cheers Rabt man (talk) 15:20, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Sincere Efforts Hasbarabustard (talk) 18:03, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
......this is my first and only account ...Earlier i did not have a proper account . Hereafter I would be using the same account. Now coming to the" warring part " , i am here to contribute meaningfully. You plz tell me the right way to edit baseless information qualifying to be called false . I endeavor to contribute like any other member in all earnest.The article Martial Races has had the mention of Bhumihar for some years ( check with page history ) until some uncorroborated additions and subtractions were made . Now i would be reverting back to it with all genuinely verifiable sources . Hasbarabustard (talk) 18:10, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
You didn't take note of the situation .......i hoped you would . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.79.244 (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't block you, if you wish to be unblocked, you have to login and add the {{unblock|reason=write your reason here. ~~~~}} template to your talk page and another administrator will review the situation. —SpacemanSpiff 16:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
why events like "Emergency ", India -pakistan war, not part of "history of India"
Dear sir, I am not good at editing wikipedia and need your help in this. I have very simple questions for you since you reverted few of the changes i did.
1. Why history of India ends at "independence"? there are whole lot of history after that. 2. why don't we create a head for "History of republic India" on the page "History of India" so that we have a brief for people to surf.
thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buddyonline77 (talk • contribs) 04:47, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- Buddyonline77:As is explained at the top of the article, post-1947 history is split into the articles covering the history of the three residual countries. I have also mentioned this in my edit summary. This page is not a history of the country India, but what was known as the region of India as is explained within the article. The link to the history of the various residual nations is already included and there's no value in regurgitating random bits within this article, especially as it doesn't pertain to the whole territory. —SpacemanSpiff 04:57, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
thanks for your comment Spiff, however there is a discrepancy in the way we are putting it. "History of Pakistan" and "History of Bangladesh" covers the all events including before, during and after independence; where as Indian history is split into two with two different names. We need to combine the two.
I believe there is already a page for "British India" that covers the "History of Indian region" as you mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buddyonline77 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- Please see WP:OSE. As is mentioned in the article, this is a summary of the region known as India up until 1947, it's a clear point. It is not the history of the Republic. If you disagree with that point, the right place to open up a conversation is at Talk:History of India and see what other editors have to say. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 05:39, 31 July 2015 (UTC)