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Happy St. Patrick's Day

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Happy St. Patrick's Day!
I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations.
Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk 

Ikea Criticisms

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Hi Shushugah - sorry to nag but you mentioned in the Ikea talk page you would have a look at my edits and contribute something

Just wanted to give you a friendly nudge in case you had forgotten - and of course no problem if you're too busy to

Welcome to the drive!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome Shushugah! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

CactiStaccingCrane (talk)18:55, 1 February 2024 UTC [refresh]via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

Question from Kolano123 (18:07, 29 September 2024)

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How do I make a redirect? --Kolano123 (talk) 18:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kolano123 see WP:REDIRECT. Is there a specific redirect you are trying to make that I could help with? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:57, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Auditxx (16:50, 1 October 2024)

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Do you have any strategies or tips for finding sources and updating articles? --Auditxx (talk) 16:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Auditxx Finding sources is quite a challenge, because it depends on what journals, newspapers you have access to and dealing with copyright. I tend to use Archive.is (the website) for accessing certain newspapers. Once you've reached 500 edits and 30 days of activity, you also get access to Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library which has a wide selection. You can always ask for finding sources at WP:Reference desk. I also will read existing sources and sometimes they reference or link to other papers, which can lead to interesting sources. Between that, and Google, I have found a lot of stuff. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Good morning Shushugah

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I wrote the article in the german wikipedia about Mario Lachat.Since he is rather well known also in the states and helped at many operations in GB, USA and Asia, he thinks, that it would be important thst his wikipedia article is translated in english, so he could be found by english speaking colleagues too. Could you helpme to translate the article in english? One of the wiki administrator mentioned, that he thinks the german article about Mario Lachat had only sources that were linked to him or his work and therefore not independent. But isnt it the nature of sources that they have to do with the person or his work? Thank you very much! Lester1960 (talk) 07:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lester1960 I had a look at de:Mario Lachat. The most common notability guideline is WP:GNG which relies on in-depth WP:Secondary (non affiliated) sources that write about an article subject. WP:NACADEMIC is an alternative guideline where the accomplishments of an academic, including their writings and CV (because it is peer reviewed) is likely acceptable. I think the German version has some WP:PROMO fluff, that should be removed for example "he was cited over 10,000x" is meaningless without context, and the list of "first ever XYZ" is not neutral encyclopedic language. I will not write the article for you, but happy to give guidance/feedback on core policies of Wikipedia, to ensure your article is as high quality as it can be. Happy translating! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! Lester1960 (talk) 05:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Shushugah
I talked to Mario Lachat and the problem of the swiss publication system (or all systems) is on one hand that the way operations are published is not uniform so it is difficult to visualize/verify that an operation was the first because the documentation system for new operations is not standertized. The lack of other surgeons claiming for them that they were earlier doing this or that operation on the other hand since more then 20 years should be proof that he was the first to do it. The code system we use in Switzerland has the same problem since if there is no code for a new type of operation, normally the operators choose to take an existing alternative code that pictures best what he did.
The fact that he was cited over 10'000 x shows a little bit how important his research was for this topic. So should I add this fact to the article?
You know Lachat was a bit of a red rag for Swiss surgeons, so he was long time marginalized as someone who promoted endovascular techniques instead of "real surgery" (equal big incisions).
I could ask the producers of such endovascular devices that are nowadays standartized, who was the first to order their devices but that would still not be a citatable source. Lester1960 (talk) 07:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Hi @Shushugah: I left some questions at the GA review of the Afonso Henriques Theatre and I pinged you, however, you didn’t answer. If the requirements are to be met, I would request your response as soon as possible! Have a great weekend. V.B.Speranza (talk) 23:43, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Skalidrisalba (15:44, 6 October 2024)

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Hello, after posting on the talk page of the hypnosis article, many users have told me that referencing "alternative medicine" (CAM) journals are not acceptable. I do not understand this comment as hypnosis is viewed as an alternative medicine so it seems normal that most scientific articles about hypnosis would be published in these journals. I also do not understand how a whole topic can be considered as non acceptable (here, the topic of alternative medicine) despite reliable scientific method, can you explain it to me?

Now users are attempting to remove all the references that are published in these kind of journals solely based on the fact that they contain "alternative medicine" in their name... --Skalidrisalba (talk) 15:44, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I should let you know WikiProject Housing and Tenant Rights is up and running! We've already had quite a few more people join and i'm very excited for everything to come. Thanks! - LoomCreek (talk) 17:07, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SixMonksWithATomb (00:46, 18 October 2024)

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Hello! I've never edited Wikipedia before. I just noticed that in the article Reed Research Reactor, it says that it is the only reactor ran by undergraduates, and I think that is untrue, mostly because I am a reactor operator for the AGN-201 reactor at Idaho State University, which is mostly ran by undergraduate students. --SixMonksWithATomb (talk) 00:46, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SixMonksWithATomb welcome to Wikipedia! In general such statements are at high risk of becoming outdated or fail to prove high bar of proving a negative in Reed Research Reactor. Can you provide a WP:Reliable in general for the AGN-201 reactor? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 07:59, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing that is publicly published. I'll change it back. Thank you for your insight!\ SixMonksWithATomb (talk) 13:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Growth News, October 2024

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Question from Brielle Charlotte Turner (00:15, 23 October 2024)

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Thank you so much! --Brielle Charlotte Turner (talk) 00:15, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Brielle Charlotte Turner (00:17, 23 October 2024)

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Hello, how do I make my own article? I am still learning :) --Brielle Charlotte Turner (talk) 00:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Brielle Charlotte Turner Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:58, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Flo4Raul (20:44, 28 October 2024)

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when making a change to a major article, do I need to begin a discussion or can I simply change it if it is a major mistake that was made on the article? i.e. Wikipedia page of Ruben Amorim --Flo4Raul (talk) 20:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of Tesla and unions

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Congratulations, Shushugah! The article you nominated, Tesla and unions, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, FrB.TG (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Woohoo! Thank you and to all the reviewers who generously gave feedback! It was a challenging and meaningful experience! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Darshan Sahu (06:22, 3 November 2024)

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I'm a solo artist and want to make my own article about myself --Darshan Sahu (talk) 06:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Darshan Sahu See WP:Autobiography and Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 07:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for participating in the October 2024 GAN backlog drive

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Question from Akichocopunch on Troy Baker (12:34, 4 November 2024)

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How to add references --Akichocopunch (talk) 12:34, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Akichocopunch Welcome to Wikipedia I added some helpful links on your personal user talk page User talk:Akichocopunch and specifically would recommend checking out Help:Referencing for beginners! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Linda M Lou on Eastland Center (Michigan) (15:53, 4 November 2024)

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How do I correct misinformation on Eastland mall being an enclosed mall. I lived close to there and shopped there while growing up. It was originally an open mall with covered walkways. It wasn’t enclosed & climate controlled. until 1975. How can I send you pics of this? Kalamazoo mall was built by same architect. --Linda M Lou (talk) 15:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Linda M Lou finding something incorrect on Wikipedia is a gem. While this claim seems uncontroversial and routine, we require WP:VERIFICATION namely a source. The claim that it was enclosed is also not present in the source used (this one) so you could remove it. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Architect Victor Gruen designed Eastland Mall, Northland Mall, and Westland Mall. All were originally open walkways and patios, and were later enclosed. You will need to find sources to corroborate my memory. I preferred the original designs. 7&6=thirteen () 16:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Right to sit law in Germany

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Are you aware if there is a right to sit law in Germany? It is my understanding that it is culturally normalized in Germany for cashiers to sit down. Aldi stores in the US are notably one of the only grocery stores where cashiers sit down. But is it a law? I've tried looking through the German law code, but haven't found anything yet. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 10:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bohemian Baltimore Yep! In addition to laws/acts (Gesezt) there are legal ordinances and this one is even available in English https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_arbst_ttv/englisch_arbst_ttv.html specifically paragraph 3.3 on equipment including seating. Beyond that, health and safety topics are within realm of collective bargaining and works council co-determination of workplace hazards. I hope this helps! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shushugah Excellent! I've added it to the article. You wouldn't happen to know about Austria or Switzerland, would you? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 23:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shushugah I found Austria's law. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 02:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Namataa M (22:45, 10 November 2024)

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So when can I publish articles --Namataa M (talk) 22:45, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Namataa M Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 23:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Asbay3 on International Financial Reporting Standards (03:58, 14 November 2024)

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Financial Statements --Asbay3 (talk) 03:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Dan Tole (11:32, 15 November 2024)

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Hi,

I need to add a new article/ content and not amend a current one, hpw should I proceed?

Best, danny --Dan Tole (talk) 11:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dan Tole Welcome! Why do you need to? Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from AceORandom (05:05, 18 November 2024)

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I'm trying to learn the format of wikipedia editing. Can you help me? --AceORandom (talk) 05:05, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AceORandom welcome to Wikipedia, check out WP:TUTORIAL. I also see you made a draft for 2023 elections, which might be too early. I added some helpful links and would encourage you to edit existing articles first to get the hang of the syntax and policy norms. Find the links on your talk page User talk:AceORandom ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, how to add citation on the article..? --Muhammad Hasin Raihan (talk) 00:43, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Muhammad Hasin Raihan I see you tried to use Facebook for sourcing, but generally rely on higher quality WP:SECONDARY and WP:RELIABLE sources. See WP:Sourcing for further info as well as some helpful links on your talk page User talk:Muhammad Hasin Raihan. Happy sourcing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from PlayMaker 5.0 Remix on Kiunga Rural LLG (12:56, 17 December 2024)

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Hello!

I joined wikipedia tonight.

I want to add current pictures which I took myself about Kiunga Rural LLG.

How do I upload pictures (my own) of places in Kiunga Rural LLG? --PlayMaker 5.0 Remix (talk) 12:56, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PlayMaker 5.0 Remix welcome to Wikipedia! Generally images should be uploaded at commons:Main, a sister project of Wikimedia. You can decide what licenses you release the images under (CC-BY-SA 4.0 or Public Domain for example). You can read further advice at HELP:IMAGE ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:41, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Thepuniaji (11:13, 18 December 2024)

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Hi, we are a marketing agency in Paris and one client has asked us to create a Wikipedia page. Can you please guide? --Thepuniaji (talk) 11:13, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thepuniaji thank you for asking, please check out WP:PAID with mandatory guidelines. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:28, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Elizabeth.Davis55 (02:54, 21 December 2024)

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sims 4 --Elizabeth.Davis55 (talk) 02:54, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elizabeth.Davis55 welcome to Wikipedia! Do you have a question related to editing? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:34, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Ali ahmed 234 (16:07, 23 December 2024)

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I already made a draft about the battle of Aricia on another device and it’s getting reviewed how long will it take --Ali ahmed 234 (talk) 16:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ali ahmed 234 Your draft Draft:Battle of Aricia does not cite a single source and will not be ready for main-space. Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Nemquid (18:56, 27 December 2024)

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Hello good day sir, greeting you form Nigeria. Please I need your help. --Nemquid (talk) 18:56, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nemquid Greetings from Berlin, how can I help you with editing on Wikipedia? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I went to be published on Wikipedia Nemquid (talk) 01:24, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nemquid Please read Wikipedia:Autobiography why that is not a good idea. Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 02:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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