User talk:Rosser1954/Archive 1

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Archive 3

Work-related stress & Preventing work-related stress

I have tagged these two articles for deletion because I believe they violate the Wikipedia policy against no original research, WP:NOR. Please check out the policy and feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Work-related stress & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Preventing work-related stress if you don't believe these articles should be deleted. Also, feel free to edit the articles to better fit WP:STYLE and WP:VERIFIABLE. -- Scientizzle 17:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

help me

Does wiki have a 'spellcheck' function to check before you save?

Welcome!

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Edits to your talk page

I removed all of the previous content from your talk page because it's not the appropriate place for what was, essentially, an article about stress. Check out Help:Talk page for more information about what should go on this page, and Wikipedia:User page for what should go on your user page. Also, check out the links above to help you in your future edits. Feel free to ask me, or any of the other thousands of editors, for help. Thanks! -- Scientizzle 17:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Um.

I can see you know a fair bit about Chapeltoun and Lambroughton, but there are some problems with the articles you created. I've moved them into your user space (where they will be safe from deletion for now) so you can work on them a bit more. User:Rosser1954/Chapeltoun ayrshire and User:Rosser1954/Lambroughton are the current locations. Once fixed up they can be moved back (ask any experienced editor to help with that).

The things that need fixing are:

The tone is narrative, not encyclopaedic. The manual of style is havy goign but tells you all you need to know about tone and such.
They are also full of gratuitous bold text, which I'm afraid doesn't go well.
You don't cite sources. We have a good system for referencing, described at WP:CITE. That's important because otherwise you run the risk of the content being considered original research - we don't do original research.
Article titles are also described in the MOS; I think it should have been Chapeltoun, Ayrshire but I don't do much geographic content.

You have the beginnings of some good content here, if it's "wikified" and sourced it will be a valuable addition to the project. The links at the top of your Talk page will also help, and you can always ask at the help desk or the talk page of any experienced editor working on related content.

I'm guessing that you are a teacher, bibliophile, local historian and numismatist whose surname begins with G but that is pure supposition...

Please note that many new editors make a much worse start than this, I am sure that with experience you will do just fine :-) Just zis Guy you know? 18:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

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If you can edit other articles or talk pages you are not blocked. Please advise what the exact phrasing is of the message you receive if you are experiencing trouble editing. Thanks, Can't sleep, clown will eat me 14:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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WikiProject beekeeping

Hi - Welcome to the wikiProject :). At the moment, we're just starting up, and next weekend, I hope to really put the project on wheels! For now, if you have the time, it would help if you could assess some of the articles in the project (take a look at the assessment department). Thanks -- M a rtinp23 14:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Spelling

Hi. I suggest you check out Wikipedia:Typo. --Guinnog 10:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Kilmarnock and Troon Railway

Hi Rosser, as far as I can see from an 1819 town plan by John Wood, the site of the original station was indeed more or less where the Co-op building is now. There are a couple of buildings attached to the end of the track on the map so I can only assume that was the station, the R.V.J. Butt directory lists the first station as opening in 1812 and closing in 1843 to be replaced by a second station (presumably what became the St Marnock depot), before being replaced with the current station in 1846. - Dreamer84 15:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Dalgarven Mill is getting out of hand

Hi Rosser1954! Your work on the Dalgarven Mill page is clearly a labour of love, and I don't want to dampen your ardour by pouring cold water on it, but the recent additions are making the page ridiculously long. Many cities have shorter entries! This page is in danger of turning into a novel. The material on such a page should really be a succinct description of the salient points of the subject in question. (For instance, your recent addition of a "Dictionary of Rural and Local History Terms" is, I'm afraid, completely out of place. The terms are mostly wikilinked, and most of those links are blue, which indicates that it should be possible to wikilink those words where they first appear in the article, either to Wikipedia or Wiktionary, making your dictionary superfluous.) Have you thought about doing what David Edgar suggested on the Talk:Dalgarven Mill page at 10:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC), and transferring much of the content to Wikitravel, where it would be far more appropriate? Sorry, but I think any further edits to Dalgarven Mill should be to prune rather than add new material. SiGarb | Talk 00:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Cunninghamhead

Rosser, find it strange that the Cunninghamhead article has been edited to almost completely remove any reference to Cunninghamhead! Perhaps you should create a separate article for Annick Lodge, with Quarryholm in there too (where it should be).

Cunninghamhead Railway station certainly deserves a part to itself.

As for the mansion house on Cunninghamhead Estate, it is never refered to as a castle and this is totally misleading. I would suggest that you correct this. As a point of interest, you used to be able to see the layout of the house in very dry summers!

I have posted my thoughts on this comprehensive, however large, article on Talk:Cunninghamhead, Perceton and Annick Lodge#The point of this article. I think it needs work to edit this one large article into what could become an excellent series of articles. Wikipedia needs contributors like yourself to unearth this type of information. Stewart 21:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure who is editting this article - but is was not me. In fact I have notcarried out any edit on Cunninghamhead, Perceton and Annick Lodge or Cunninghamhead. My suggestion on the Talk page was an attempt to steer a middle course between your excellent article (as I have previous said) and the comments from Dreamer84. In fact I would suggest that you query should have been directed in that direction. Stewart 21:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Semen

How on earth is mistletoe a related link? --Wafulz 17:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Because the Mistletoe berry contains a sticky whitish 'semen-like' fluid that is identified in pagan beliefs as the the 'semen' of the 'gods' ready to fertilise nature and bring back spring. Hence the kissing under the mistletoe and removing a berry with each kiss, etc. Rosser1954.

Moretonhampstead railway station

Thanks for posting the images of Devon railways. The picture of Moretonhampstead is not from the 1880s - the rolling stock is clearly not broad gauge. I have seen a copy of this which claimed it was a 1909 view, but as it is a postcard I am unsure whether this was the date taken or the date posted. It certainly was not taken before 1905 as the locomotive is a small praire which could not have been on the branch before then. Geof Sheppard 08:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Torquay1842.jpg

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Image:Caernarfonstation.jpg

Interesting picture with NGG16 143 in the background using the now removed water tower siding. I think I can identify the Guard - if you can put a date and time to the picture, I will be able to confirm my suspicions by checking the back rosters. I am certain it is not me - I normally wear a waistcoat when guarding. Stewart 21:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I will look up my diary. A wonderful day and a most memorable visit. I was member of the WHR for many years as a child and this was a special trip to sample the delights of all your hard work. Rosser 1954.

Hello Stewart - took me a while to find my diary. The photo was taken on Wednesday, August 10th. 2005. Rosser1954

Will have missed you be a a few days having returned to Scotlnad the previous Monday from 10 days volunteering (including guarding trains out of Caernarfon. Stewart 16:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Ilfracombe Branch Line

Hi. Thanks for adding those pics of Ilfracombe station. I was wanting (eventually) to split Ilfracombe railway station into a separate article but the lack of photos made this a long-term prospect.

The article may still benefit from a bit of re-arrangement, in particular, the gallery may be better placed after the (meagre) text for Ilfracombe station itself. The ticket may be OK where it is, though. Very glad to see that they're all clear of copyright issues.

It is in my plans to add further detail to this article, but other edits are always taking me away. In the meantime, contributions from others are always more than welcome! :o)

EdJogg 14:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Similar sentiments from me. Nice to see some pictures of that kind on wikipedia, especially as the only other ones online are orphaned. No-one knows who took them :-( JHJPDJKDKHI! 09:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Just a thought... If your scanner can hack it, and the original photos will cope, you could add higher resolution images than you have thus far. (It is possible to replace an existing image file with a new one of the same name.) WP prefers to have the highest resolution available - it has software to resample the picture for use as, say, a thumbnail. That way, when anyone clicks on a picture to see a larger image, they can see all the detail in the original. (For example, what's the diesel hauling the train in Barnstaplejunction.jpg ?)

As far as the Ilfracombe pics are concerned, once the station article is underway I shall move the gallery contents, leaving just one representative pic in the branchline article. (But don't hold your breath!!)

EdJogg 13:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Could this mean Ilfracombe Railway Station is expected to arrive soon? :-P JHJPDJKDKHI! 13:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Possibly, but only if I can stop myself being side-tracked by traction engines, pumping stations, The Railway Series books, geared steam locomotives and countless other pages!

(double :-P ) -- EdJogg 14:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Bees and inebriation

Please take a look at my rough draft at User talk:Filll/beedrunk and give me your opinion.--Filll 21:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

With the help of User:Dyanega, I have now revised User talk:Filll/beedrunk and I am pondering publishing it on WP as Bees and intoxication or some such title. Comments?--Filll 23:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see a full definition of 'inebriation' in the context of the article. How does one know if a bee has a hangover and when it doesn't. The article is a little too anthropomorphic - bees being 'punished' for instance. Rosser1954

Thanks for your comments. I had heard the "punished" in a book review, but I decided that was a bit too much of a stretch. I gave the link to the article about a hangover. I have written to the author to get a better reference, but I have no reply yet. I did track down the pioneering work linking octopamine with hangovers done at UCSF by Ulrike Heberlein's group using a fruit fly model. Apparently bees also have octopamine as a neurotransmitter, so it is not at all unlikely that bees suffer similar veisalgia effects as fruit flies and humans, but I do not know how firmly established hangover is in bees, at least chemically. The claims of "hangovers in bees" are based purely on observation, would be my guess. So how does the article look now? --Filll 16:12, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The article is well presented and most interesting. Just a few 'tweeks' here and there. Rosser1954

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Is there any chance that you can re-load this photo, this time with a valid licence tag? (Your other images, which have been tagged, are OK - it's just this one that needs attention.)

The image in Ilfracombe Branch Line#Barnstaple Town is now presented as a red-link, so I have commented it out. If you can re-add the photo, we can make it go live again. Cheers. EdJogg 11:41, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Etymology of "Haytor"

Hi. In your recent edit to Haytor Granite Tramway, I'm wondering from where you got the etymology of "Haytor" (from "High" and "Tor").

Neither of my placename reference works give that derivation: The Place Names of Devon (1932) says it was "Idetordoune" in 1566 changing to "Itterdown" by 1789, and states that the present name is corrupt and probably influenced by spellings of "Haytor Hundred", which is in South Devon.

On the other hand Eilert Ekwall's Concise Oxford English Dictionary of English Place-names (4th ed. 1960) gives "Eofede torr" in 1323 and states that "eofede" may be related to OE "ifig" meaning "ivy". "Torr" means high rock, rocky peak or hill.

So neither book agrees with your etymology. But I must admit that they are both getting on a bit, so do you have a more recent reliable source for the etymology?

Smalljim 16:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC) - - - (by the way, I like the trick of placing the TOC on the right - I'll remember that!)

Your edit to Haytor

Noticing it I wondered if you knew about this piccy commons:Image:050715_067_uk_dev_hay.jpg. I spotted it when I was trying to get some regional pics into cats on Commons. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 16:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Glad to help. Given our interests have some crossovers and the fact that I am working on trying to cat the many uncat'ed images in Commons (largely landscape type and uk for now) anything you want me to look out for? Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit on Saint John

You recently added this entry to the dab page at Saint John:

*St. John - a parish on Jersey.

Is this something that will likely have a WP article about it? Thanks. - grubber 14:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Grubber - Link added - Rosser

Local history glossary

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Local history glossary, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Jeepday 03:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Museum of Scottish Rural Life, Kittochside

Please read the comments on Talk:Museum of Scottish Rural Life, Kittochside where I recommend moving some of your work to Wikipedia or Wikibooks or Wikiversity where it would be more appropriate. If you need help moving stuff to you user space temporarily or anything else let me know, it looks like you are doing a lot of hard work and it looks like good stuff but you need a different place to put it. Jeepday 14:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I read your entry at User_talk:Jeepday#Local_history_glossary and have responded in the same place. I think you have done a huge amount of work and I also think Wikipedia is not the correct location for it, either Wiktionary or Wikibooks would be. I also don't think the article Local history glossary will survive a WP:AFD test. I have also read your entry on Talk:Museum of Scottish Rural Life, Kittochside and the answer is no I don't think the Earth would stop revolving, anymore then it would if you copy and pasted the whole New York City phone book to the bottom of every article that mentions New York on Wikipedia but it would not help anything either. Every body of work has a home it's just that an Encyclopedia is not a Dictionary, you have chosen the wrong home for this work. Jeepday 22:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Move to Wikibook

I just took all the Local_history_glossary article and made it into a wikibook at Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary Seems to have made the move pretty well. This is my first significant edit on WIkibooks so I don't know much about it. When I began the move I was directed to the page Help:Wikibooks for Wikipedians which talks about the difference between Wikipedia and Wikibook, take a look. I think your work is going to do a lot better there as a book then it does here as an article. On Wikibook you can divide it into chapters and lots of cool stuff. If you need help with anything like make chapters let me know (at user talk:jeepday here on wikipedia. DO you have any ideas on how to section the new book in to chapters? Do you think "Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary" was the right choice for a name? Let me know.

Local history glossary etc

To be honest I'm not sure what to suggest. After having a look at Wikibooks it would seem the ideal location for your work. I might be inclined to agree that although your work is fantasic, its perhaps not really suited to Wikipedia. Have you ever considered creating a website of your own? You've certainly got the content for it, and it would allow you to publish your own work without other people coming along to edit it. I've had thoughts about doing such a thing myself.

Just something to consider. --Dreamer84 21:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpful advice. It is driving me a bit crazy, putting in thw work and then finding it does 'belong'. I suppose extending it to an encyclopaedia won't save it either.

Rosser.

PS How do you 'do' this -User:Pencefn|Stewart]] 21:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)?

You can get a signature and time stamp by typing four of the '~' characters in a row, i.e. ~~~~. There's a shortcut button at the top of the editing window that does the same thing, its the one directly to the right of the button with the 'W' with the red no entry sign over it. Anything else I can do to help just let me know and I'll do my best. --Dreamer84 13:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I just nominated the article "Local history glossary" for deletion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Local history glossary as it has been transwikied to wikibooks:Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary. The community may or may not decide to delete the article, I think they will deside to delete it, but I have been wrong before. I have done some of the ground work on making your article into a book. and would be happy to help more with the techincal stuff, but it is mostly your body of work and it needs your assistance to make the transition from article to book. Jeepday 13:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Viaduct something or other

I saw "Dick Institute" in a paragraph that seemed disconnected from the rest and it looked like vandalism so I hit the rollback button. Sorry, brother, it was an honest mistake. I've since restored your edits. —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 10:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom on Laigh Milton viaduct

Hello,

Thanks for creating article on Laigh Milton viaduct. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.

...that the Laigh Milton viaduct, built in 1811 / 1812, is the oldest surviving railway viaduct in Scotland and one of the oldest in the World?

Thanks, - KNM ^Talk 18:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

To answer your question Rosser, DYK refers to the 'Did you know...' section of the front page of Wikipedia. --Dreamer84 14:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 18 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Laigh Milton viaduct, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 03:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Soon to be ex Local History Glossary

(response copied from User talk:David Edgar)
Yes, you can certainly link to wikibooks. Just type the following:
[[wikibooks:Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary]]
to get a link that looks like:
wikibooks:Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary
Of course you can also pipe it in the usual way - type:
[[wikibooks:Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary|the glossary]]
to get a link that looks like:
the glossary

As for the glossary on the Dalgarven Mill page, it seemed inappropriate. For example, there's no need to explain what a cart or a maiden is - the words 'cart' and 'maiden' can be considered quite basic, and weren't even used in the text of the page. There's no problem explaining on a particular page a small number of terms relevant to the subject, but I don't feel it's helpful to add huge lists of terms. And for terms which already have pages on wikipedia / wiktionary / wikibooks, the best way to explain them is just to link to the appropriate page. --David Edgar 12:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I went through and changed all the "See Also" links in wikipedia to Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary using [[wikibooks:Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary|Scottish Rural Life, History Dictionary]]. Where there was a link in the text to "Local History" I removed the link (and included a see also the book, if not there already) as it is not appropriate as a rule to wiki link to books from the text of an article. Have you decided yet if you want to use seperate chapters for each alphabet in the book? Signed Jeepday 13:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Springside and Dreghorn railway stations

Brilliant photos, thanks for uploading them. Where did they come from, if you don't mind me asking? Also, what is the reference to the 'Springside Woman's Health Group' actually referring to? --Dreamer84 22:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I haven't actually been to Kilmaurs station, only information I've gather has been from books etc. If you want to get a newer photo for the page feel free, most of the time its only abandoned stations that I'll take pictures of. --Dreamer84 15:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Co-ordinates

If you use a website like Streetmap, it'll give you the co-ordinates of a location right at the very bottom of the page. --Dreamer84 12:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sandboxes

I've noticed you've been using your user page as storage for things you are working on. Perhaps you should consider using sandboxes to try out things, you can have as many as you want, so you can try different things without having loads of articles in the one place. The format is User:Rosser1954/Sandbox1, User:Rosser1954/Sandbox2 etc. So a link to the first sandbox would be User:Rosser1954/Sandbox1, and so on. For example I've been working on an improved Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway page at my Sandbox.

Just thought I'd mention it if you're wanting to keep your main user page tidy. --Dreamer84 12:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

References and 'Burns Line'

Hey, nice work on the recent Ayrshire villages pages. Just to note that footnotes are meant to go after commas, full stops etc like this,^[1] rather than this^[2]. Minor thing, but it looks better anyway. I've fixed the Gatehead and Laigh Milton Viaduct articles. Also, you note in the Viaduct page that the Glasgow South Western Line is 'officially' known as the Burns Line. I know it was called that in days gone by but is there anything from Network Rail, SPT or Scotrail to indicate its still called that? As far as I know its 'official' name is now the Glasgow South Western Line. --Dreamer84 13:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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Stastistical?

Hi, Rosser1954. Did you ever figure out whether "stastistical" was indeed a typo over in Corsehill, Lainshaw, Robertland and Dunlop? I wasn't sure how to interpret your response to me in the talk page. Thanks. jhawkinson 13:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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Kilmarnock & Troon Railway

Hello Dreamer. I was wondering about the apparent branch line on the K&T tramway. The NLS link to maps of 1821 & 1828 seem to indicate a branch at Gatehead heading across the Irvine towards Fairlie and beyond. Any ideas. Was it built or was it just a plan that never got off the ground? The G&SWR Fairlie Branch, built much later, seems to almost duplicate it. Rosser 15:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I think that this branch is the one and the same Fairlie Branch used by the G&SWR later. There's a reference on the Kilmarnock and Troon Railway article that indicates that the Fairlie branch was originally opened in 1818. I'm assuming that the G&SWR modified the branch though, as Airey's 1875 railway map on the NLS site indicates that by that point the branch curved to the southeast at its bottom, with the original straight line to the southwest kind of greyed out on the map. That's my guess anyway. --Dreamer84 12:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Your link additions to wrsrecovery.com

I have removed the links you added to various articles as they were inappropriate to the article. Please see the policy on external links and spam. Thank you. -- Gogo Dodo 20:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Re your message: I rechecked the site and I still don't believe that they are appropriate for the pages that they were linked to. For example, it being linked to Employment and Population health are a stretch. The site is also very focused on just teachers in Scotland, so is not of general interest to every reader of Wikipedia. I'm sorry if I came off blunt, but your editing method adding the links to multiple articles was very spam-like.

As for your unrelated question about the +/- numbers in green/red are in your Watch List, that is the number of bytes changed in the edit. +/green means bytes were added, while -/red is bytes removed. It's mostly an anti-vandal tool. -- Gogo Dodo 22:45, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Kilmarnock station

Thanks for that, interesting find. Yeah you should be able to post photos here the same way you would on an article. 'Burns Line' is certainly not something thats used in the day to day use of the line I'm pretty sure. That said, the plaque is evidence that it is still called that in some respect. In that case, I'd be inclined to go with Glasgow South Western Line being the official name for the entire line from Glasgow to Stranraer, and 'Burns Line' being an alternative (although official) name for the line between Kilmarnock and Girvan? --Dreamer84 09:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Lugton

Hey, I've had to revert your change on the Lugton article, its definately in East Ayrshire, as the population link on the article has a link to the East Ayrshire Council website! The East Renfrewshire border is a mile or two up the road. The railway stations were round the wrong way so I've fixed them too. Noticed you gave a Stenlake book as a source, it wouldn't surprise me if the information is wrong in that book, for some reason every book I've read thats been published by Stenlake seems to have at least half a dozen small errors, from incorrectly labelled photos, to wrong years, etc. --Dreamer84 12:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Nice photo of Caldwell/Uplawmoor, but does it (and the stuff you've copied from the Caldwell station page) really belong on the Lugton page? Theres a few miles distance between them, and would be no more relevant than sticking information on Barrmill and Beith railway stations in there as well. Just a thought. Uplawmoor does have its own article which could benefit from more information rather than everything going on Lugton. --Dreamer84 15:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

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On a better note related to the same topic,

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Kindly nominated by GeeJo. Do feel free to self nom in future. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Standard Catalog of World Coins

I am working on making it easier to reference various editions of this book. I created {{numis cite SCWC}} and am in the process of replacing existing references with uses of this template. I came across your edits to Coins of Lundy and made the change there. For future reference, you could use {{numis cite SCWC | date=1980 | pages=pages}}, but of course, feel free to use whatever's most convenient for you. I did make one change, which was to give the publication date as 1979. Although the title is 1980 edition, I believe it was published in 1979, but please let me know if that's wrong. Ingrid 23:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Cleeves Cove cave

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--ST47Talk·Desk 11:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Barony and Castle of Giffen

Hi Rosser, just discovered this article of yours and thought it was very good. I've fixed just a couple of things, mainly the date of Giffen station's closure, and the fact that the Giffenmill Viaduct was demolished last year. Good work. :) --Dreamer84 17:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Dartmoor pics

It's a favourite place and it was a lovely evening. I'm hoping to build on the available stock of both Devon & Dartmoor pictures on Commons - commons:Category:Dartmoor & commons:Category:Devon (I working on Westcountry and certainly UK in the main). Feel free to let me know if I can help (& keep up the good work on Books :-)) - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 10:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Corpse roads

Great work on Corpse roads. Fascinating, actually - Smashville 21:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

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--Peta 10:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

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I nearly reverted ..

.. your change to Anglo-Scottish border, until I saw your contribution history. Do I take it you intend to create Scots' Dike? Philip Trueman 10:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK September 6

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From Bourtreehill

I have been updating the Bourtreehill and Bourtreehill House entries. Just wanted to say hello and tell you to take a look. Added some pics and some article info. TheBourtreehillian 00:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Been looking at your Eglinton Country Park contribution and a I am very impressed. Hope to add some nice things to it in the future. When I first came here, there were no entries for Stanecastle, Perceton, Annick Water or Broomlands. Now the region has champions. TheBourtreehillian 17:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Rosser

I thought it was time for a formal introduction (if you will allow it). As you may have gathered, I am originally from Bourtreehill in Irvine. I am the owner of TheBourtreehillian Website and TheBourtreehillians Forum which is, like the estate itself, horribly small. I am currently out of the country (spent the past five years in East Germany making a family) and am deeply involved in research. I have finished writing a book, which covers some of our favourite subjects (I gathered this from your list of contributions and the fact that many coincide with mine) and am currently awaiting publication. I am on the constant lookout for more sources and would love to trade with you. For example, I am desperate to get hold of Arnold F. McJannet's 1938 History of the Burgh of Irvine. My own library is fairly extensive (part of my inheritance) and would love to share some of it with a like minded local historian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBourtreehillian (talk • contribs) 14:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Bourtreehillian Forum

I got your message and responded. You will be a gem if you can get hold of that book and I will be including you in my acknowledgements (if you don't mind that is). And yes, I agree about the criticism point you made. A simple google would have answered his or her point and then he or she could have simply improved the article. After all, we are not here to answer queries. Google and other engines, on the other hand, are. TheBourtreehillian 14:15, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Wallace's Larder

Have you checked my Wallace's Larder page? No-one has commented on it yet. TheBourtreehillian 14:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Links to Eglinton Park

Hi Rosser, I was just wondering what made you put Eglinton Park down as a "See also" link on the Stevenston, Saltcoats and Ardrossan articles. Aside from the mentions of Ardrossan Harbour on the Park article, there is no mention of Eglinton Park in the Stevenston or Saltcoats articles, nor are they mentioned in the Eglinton Park article. If there is some connection other than the fact that they are near each other then maybe that could be mentioned in the article text rather than a random link at the bottom. Otherwise the 'See also' section might as well include every single nearby notable place/building. Just a thought. Excellent article on the park I must add. --Dreamer84 14:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The history of Saltcoats, Ardrossan and Stevenson are intimately linked with Eglinton. I can assure you of this. If Eglinton is not mentioned in the Saltcoats and Ardrossan articles then THAT is the strange thing. It means that the articles are incomplete. Ardrossan Castle is an early stronghold of the Montgomerys of Eglinton and the harbours of Saltcoats and Ardrossan were built by them. If I have time I will change the articles so that you can see how they are connected but...I think Rosser will be able to manage fine. In the mean-time, a simple google would have answered your query. Google Search Eglinton Ardrossan Gardez Bien. TheBourtreehillian 22:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I phrased my message badly. I am well aware of the connections between the Three Towns and the Eglinton Estate. I live in Stevenston very close to Kerelaw Castle and am familiar with the history of it and Eglinton Castle and the wars between the two families etc. I was not asking what the connection is as I know it very well. I was just inquring about the way Rosser was implimenting the link between the two. A great number of towns, buildings and areas in Ayrshire are closely related, and it was only a suggestion that perhaps the link to Eglinton Park is expanded slightly rather than just a link. Rosser's small change to include the cycle path is ideal until something more can be written about the history of Eglinton and the nearby towns on their respective pages.

Rosser, there is no need for the "helpful" criticisms remark. Since we've had a few disagreements in the past I wanted to consult you on the change before doing anything myself, that is all. Sorry if it came off any other way. I actually plan to enhance the Stevenston article when I eventually finish work on West Kilbride. --Dreamer84 14:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Auchenharvie

Fascinating! When I used to drive to Glasgow by the old Barrhead route, I would never miss a chance to sneak a peek at Auchenharvie castle. Depending on how the sun was positioned it would sometimes look like a clump of trees to the passer by. I have written about the body snatchers but had no idea the castle was used to hide bodies before being sold to Glasgow Uni. Nice info. TheBourtreehillian 21:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer

Got your message and sent Cooper Hay Rare Books an email. Don't worry about not being being able to get it. It is rarer than a dog that speaks Norwegian. Thanks for the help. I will let you know how it progresses. TheBourtreehillian 09:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I know Irvine library has the book but since I am living in Germany, the getting to it will be impossible for a while. And I have the Amazon page bookmarked. The price tag, believe it or not, is quite decent and I would be prepared to pay more - if I had it. My wife has just come down with a serious Kidney problem and I am currently negotiating a protracted custody battle for my younger siblings and I am sure none of them would appreciate me spending more than 150 euros on a book published as recently as 1938. It is all rather depressing. :( TheBourtreehillian 13:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Trick is 1. Interesting 2. Original fact 3. Referenced.... the new bit you have about the 1642 magazine and ICI is the best I could see .... but no references for these key facts. Can't help without the refs ... 14:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

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--Allen3 ^talk 20:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Girdle Toll mess

Done! Cheers for the heads-up. TheBourtreehillian 10:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Mosside Bridge & carriageway

Hi Rosser, yeah by the time I got your message Bourtreehillian had beat me to it, don't know why these people bother wasting their time vandalising articles.

I knew nothing about the Montgreenan bridge until I read your section on it, very interesting. Where exactly is it located? I assume the former Mosside farm is the small ruin visible from the A736 on a large curve just before Auchentiber? I'm curious as to how you learned of the bridge itself. It should surely be given listed building status if it hasn't already done so! --Dreamer84 23:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Moot hill

Am I impressed or am I impressed! Was it one you put in the oven earlier? --John Maynard Friedman 16:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC) Could you consider rewriting Moot hall? Indeed, the option to merge it into Moot hill ought seriously to be considered. --John Maynard Friedman 16:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

At least minimally, could you confirm or deny the assertion (on moot hall that all moot halls are on the site of (former) moot hills? --John Maynard Friedman 12:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You might want to look in on talk:Moot hill, since the article's originality is being questioned. --John Maynard Friedman 17:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Scottish Islands project

I thought from your past edits, you might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands - come on over and have a look. --MacRusgail 14:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for joining up, and for the many edits you made to Lady Isle. I have put that article up for reassessment, as it can't be called a stub anymore. --MacRusgail 14:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons

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Did you know

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--Allen3 ^talk 15:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

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Riccarton & Craigie railway station

Good evening Rosser. Sadly I know next to nothing about Riccarton station. My usually reliable directory of railway stations, which supposedly lists every station ever to exist in the UK, only mentions the Riccarton station that was down near the Borders somewhere. The Ayrshire station is sometimes called 'Riccarton' and sometimes 'Riccarton and Craigie', but I'm not sure which one was the station's original name. Aside from that all I know is where the station was located. Information seems to be hard to come by on the subject, which is what has prevented me from creating an article for it.

Its as if the station never existed, but obviously it did! The RCAHMS has a couple of newscutting photos of the station, but I'm not sure if they are requestable online like other photos. --Dreamer84 17:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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DYK October 25

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--Andrew c ^[talk] 01:20, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Eglinton tournament re-enactment 001.jpg

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Image removed from article. Can't find the time to make a 19 year old poster 'valid' at the moment. Anyone able to help? Rosser 12:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd reckon it's the size that's the problem Rosser, the poster is 6128x4240 resolution (i.e. absolutely massive!) when the fair use rationale only applies to quote "scaled-down, low-resolution images of posters". I'd say you'd be looking at a resolution more like 612x424 to be accepted. --Dreamer84 12:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Dreamer. I will have another try. By the way - did you see the photo of the Eglinton colliery railway tunnel at Eglinton Country Park - Industrial Arch. I hope to gain access at some point & take more. Rosser 13:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I did, fascinating. I also enjoyed looking at the photos of Eglinton Castle, there were a few I hadn't seen before, specifically the colour aerial view, the pre-1805 castle and the 1965-ruin castle. --Dreamer84 13:46, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

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Image:Montgreenan station drive.JPG

Great picture and you took it before the weather started to close in this afternoon. --Stewart^(talk) 16:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

<center> tags

Hi Rosser, just a pointer, when you're using the <center> tag, it is closed off with </center>, rather than another <center>, if that makes sense. However, when using the tags in image thumb descriptions, you only need the opening <center> tag, as when the image tags are closed they automatically disregard the <center> tag from then on. See my changes to Irvine, North Ayrshire as an example (ignoring some of the bizarre changes made by an anonymous user late last night!). --Dreamer84 10:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Dunlop Cheese

Done. Now on my watchlist so will try and keep an eye on it. --Dreamer84 13:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Possible OR

What is your opinion of [1]?--Filll 22:50, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Useful directory

I have found the List of UK locations quite useful and now it is up for deletion:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United Kingdom locations

Comments?--Filll 22:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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—Wknight94 (talk) 16:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

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DYK

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River Irvine

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Islands of the Clyde collaboration

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DYK

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Barony of Robertoun

Hi Rosser, I've noticed you've written a bit on the Barony of Robertoun. I'm intrigued by the subject because I am a Roberton and come from the Robertons of that ilk, and the Robertons of Earnock in Lanarkshire. I'm trying to see if there is a connection between the my Robertons, and the Barony of Robertoun in Ayrshire that you've written about. Please... HELP !! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Proberton (talk • contribs) 23:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi! Have been thinking about the above for months now. Something clicked tonight when I was reading your suggested etymology of the Lambroughton name. Sometime in the reign of Malcolm IV, Robert the Fleming ( my ancestor) and his brother Lambin Asa are mentioned in a charter in the following charter:

To all the sons of holy mother Church and to the faithful both now and hereafter who will see or hear of this writing, Wice of Wiston sends greeting. Let all men know that I have given and granted by this charter confirmed to God and to the church of St Mary of Kelso and to the monks serving God there, the Church of Wiston, my town with its two chapels, viz: - that of the town of Robert, the brother of Lambin, and of the town of John, the stepson of Baldwin, to be held in perpetual gift; along with tits lands, tithes, pastures, fuel and other privileges of his township, and all other just duties belong to the foresaid church. I have moreover, granted this bequest for the soul’s weal of my lord, King Malcolm; and of his brother William; and for my own salvation and that of my wife, and of my heirs; and for the souls of my father and mother; and of all my ancestors and successors. Where-fore my wish is that the aforesaid monks may have and hold for all time coming the above mentioned church of Wiston, which I have conveyed to them in perpetual free gift with all exemptions privileges ad ecclesiastical rights, and with all other immunities belonging to the said church, as freely, peacefully and honourably and fully as they have and hold any other church in the Kingdom of Scotland more freely, peacefully, honourably and fully.

Reid, T  History of the Parish of Crawfordjohn, Upper Ward of Lanarkshire. 1153 to 1928 Turnball & Spiers Edinburgh 1928 posted at <http://www.crawford-john.org.uk/reid-.htm>  cited 22 Sept 2006

Reid found this charter from the Chartulary of Kelso Abbey p 270 No. 336

Lambin Asa was the progenitor of the Earls of Lamington and the Earls of Loddon, which I'm also lead to believe is in Ayrshire. Note that Electric Scotland at http://www.electricscotland.com/history/nation/loudoun.htm links Lambin ( as the progenitor of the Loddon Earls) with Richard De Morville. I wonder if de Morville parcelled out the land as Lambin's name somehow attached to it ? You suggest in your article that the etymology may include the name Lamberton.....

If you feel like delving into this further, George Blacks ( Surnames of Scotland) follows:

Lamington from Black, George, Surnames of Scotland Birlinn Ltd 1999 Edinburgh p412

From the manor of the same name in the parish of Lamington, Lanarkshire.

Lambin Asa, from whom the manor derives its name, flourished in the reigns of David I and Malcolm IV. Between 1147 and 1160 he received a grant of the lands of Draffane and Dardarach in Lesmahagow from Arnold Abbot of Kelso ( 102), and about the same period James, the son of Lambin, obtained the lands of Loudin and others in Ayrshire ( OPS I, p173).

“The descent of the manor from Lambin its first lord known to record, cannot be traced with any precision” (ibid p174) as there seems to be a break in the possession of the property in the latter half of the thirteenth century.

William de Lamygton rendered homage in 1296, in the same year William de Lambyngestone was committed prisoner to the castle of Hadelaghe and William, son of William de Lambingtone, was committed to Fotheringhay Castle ( bain II p 169, 177). Their possessions were doubtless forfeited, as in 1329 the lands of Lamington were in the possession of Alexander Seton.

OPS Origines parochiales Scotiae: the antiquities, eccelisastical and territorial of the parishes of Scotland. Edinburgh 1851-55 2v in 3.

LAC Chartulary of the Abbey of Lindores 1195 – 1479 Ed Rt Reverend John Dowden Edin 1903

NOTE: Lambin is the diminutive of Lambert q.v. Lambyn Asa …. Gave name to the manor of Lamington in Lanarkshire. (LAC 80)I know its all a bit garbled, but I think you'll get the idea I think the history of Lambroughton is tied up with Lambin and that Robertoun in Ayrshire is connected to his brother Robert. Further, you mentioned somewhere that there's a Lamberton in the Scottish Borders. I know that there is a Roberton in the Borders as well, not far from Kelso. I've never been able to link the Roxburgh Roberton to the Lanarkshire Roberton where I'm descended from but there has long been a theory they are related.

I'm extremely interested in your interpretation of the above.

Regards,

Paul Proberton (talk) 17:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Rollback?

Hello. I wonder if you've seen mention of the Wikipedia:Rollback feature. Basically it lets you undo/revert vandalism with one click. The details are on the page I linked to. Have a read and if you think this would be helpful I can enable it for you, just leave a note here or on my talk page. All the best for 2008, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Speir's school

Hi Rosser, an interesting article on Speir's school you've created, just a warning to watch out for referencing things as 'oral communication', as this would come under original research which is forbidden by Wikipedia. There might also be verifiability issues too.

Anyway mainly wanted to just say good work, for this article and the recent additions to Eglinton Country Park, and the new Fergushill article etc. You seem to have been lucky in finding dry spells in the weather in which to take photos! --Dreamer84 (talk) 16:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

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Kerelaw Castle

Good morning Rosser. You've done some great improvements to this article over the last few days. I've been meaning to get some more photos of the ruins, I only live literally 30 seconds walk from the castle so might try this week. About the various naming of Kerelaw, I think its best to, like you recently added, mention the various spellings of Kerelaw at the start, and then stick to the modern spelling for the rest of the article, otherwise it can become confusing for people unfamiliar with the name. On a similar note 'Cunninghame' is a bit a nuisance, as various Wikipedia pages seem to have different spellings, I'd been using 'Cunninghame' but then it looks odd linking to the Earl of Glencairn which uses 'Cunningham', then of course there's the old 'Cuninghame' spelling! I'd be interested in your thoughts.

You mention in the article that a lodge is featured on the old OS maps, is this East Lodge you are referring to? If so, you might be interested to know that the lodge is actually still in existence as a private house. --Dreamer84 (talk) 00:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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Location map co-ordinates

Hello, I've fixed some of these but don't have time to do them all just now. Watch out with the co-ordinates as the Location map template only takes decimal co-ordinates where as the ones at the top of your articles are in degrees, and unfortunately they don't convert 1:1. Clicking the co-ordinates at the top will give you a page with the decimal form which you can use for the location map. --- Dreamer ⁸⁴ 14:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Kerelaw, yep will try get some photos of the bridge, although its difficult to get a clear photo of it without standing in the middle of Stevenston burn! I found this photo/drawing which you may or may not have seen, it shows the bridge along with the old cottages that were built in the castle's court. I tried to get an identical comparison shot yesterday however the view was covered with trees instead. --- Dreamer ⁸⁴ 17:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Rose bedeguar gall

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Article names / Waggonway

Hi Rosser, I'm not sure about the answer to your question about the waggonway, will have to look up on that. About article names, I've renamed Knockentiber and Busbie back to Knockentiber as it's Wikipedia policy to have only a single place 'name' as an article name. The same will have to be done for Auchentiber and Montgreenan, but I'd suggest that there's enough information about Montgreenan in that article to create a Montgreenan Estate article with relative ease? --- Dreamer ⁸⁴ 13:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Chapeltoun article sources

Thank you for this excellent article! I am a descendant of many of the people referenced in this article. John and James Miller of Laigh Chapelton are my ggggg grandfather and gggg grandfather resepectively. Hugh Parker of Bogflat was also my gggg grandfather. Image my surprise and joy at finding such details as signatures and gravestones od my ancestors in an encyclopedia article!

My ggg grandfather, Alexander Miller, was the nephew of the John Miller of the Dyke dispute. William farmed in the Robertland area until "the rent was increased", at which point he became "carter" in Stewarton. The Robertland article was also of great interest.

I assume that John and James Miller did not actually own the land of Leigh Chapelton. Do you know who did?

I have a few questions as to your sources which may be better handled offline. Is there anyway to contact you directly. I would like copies of the documents the Miller signatures appeared on, if possible, among other things.

As a minor sugestion, the article could be improved by a map of the area showing the relative positions of the places referenced.

I will be visiting the Stewarton area this June. The information in this article will help me retrace my family history.

This is my first posting to Wikipedia. If this posting is not appropriate, I apologize.

Smiller091wiki (talk) 15:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Riccarton and Craigie railway station

Hello Rosser. Following on from our brief discussion on Riccarton station last year, have you been able to find out some more information on it? I was planning on finally creating the Riccarton and Craigie railway station article and I noticed you've stated in the Riccarton, Ayrshire article that it was renamed in 1905 and closed in 1965, is there a source for that? The 1938 line closure date is the only one I've come across. I'm guessing the station was only called 'Riccarton' for an extremely short time either way as the line doesn't exist on the 1897 OS maps but is there as Riccarton and Craigie in 1910. --- Dreamer ⁸⁴ 11:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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		If only every part of Scotland had someone to do for it what you've done for Ayrshire. Great work! Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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You did not mention any sources - according to the letters used the author was still alive in the last decade... --Eingangskontrolle (talk) 10:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Section headings

Hello there,

Can I breifly point out something about the use of subheadings? Excessive section subheadings should generally be avoided - single-paragraph and single-purpose sub-sections break up an article that is against the manual of style. This is inkeeping with WP:UKCITIES which is the style guide for layout on settlements in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. If a section is comprised of less than six paragraphs, then, usually, it shouldn't be split into subsections. Hope that helps, --Jza84 | Talk 11:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Oops! Forgot to mention that sections shouldn't generally begin with the words "A" or "The" per WP:MOSHEAD too. These words are considered by reviewers to be grammatically redundant, or purely stylistic, but can be used if say, it is used in the name of a publication that is the subject of that section. --Jza84 | Talk 11:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Eglinton Tournament Pictures

I'd just like to thank you for adding all those great pictures to the Eglinton Tournament page. I've been writing my thesis on that event and, although I'd been able to get most of the documents I needed and had found copies the Corbould lithographs, I had only seen a few of the James Henry Nixon pictures and the photo of the trophy is lovely. Thanks for all your hard work! --Forcewhispers (talk) 16:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It won't be finished until next spring, but I'd be happy to send you a copy. I'm so glad someone else cares about the topic! --Forcewhispers (talk) 15:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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Eglinton Tournament

I've recently completed a GA-review of Eglinton Tournament of 1839. It was nominated by User:Cmadler, but I see from the history that you are the main contributor. As it stands, it's not really ready for GA status. I've left comments on the review page, and put the article on hold. I hope you find my comments and suggestions helpful - feel free to discuss any of them with me. Gwinva (talk) 05:19, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

As you might have noticed, Eglinton Tournament review has been closed and the article failed. I apologise if this happened a bit abruptly, but the closing editor was correct in his actions: whiel you have put in a lot of work, the article still remains somewhat short of the GA criteria, and is unlikely to pass in the next few days. But I encourage you to continue your work, and renominate the article when you feel it is ready. Gwinva (talk) 00:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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Eglinton Tournament of 1839

I think with a little more work, this article can attain Good Article status. I've done a bit of work on cleaning up the references and improving the organization of the article, but I don't actually know anything about the event, nor do I have ready access to most of the cited works. I know you've contributed to it in the past, can you help check items off the to-do list? Thanks, Cmadler (talk) 19:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

You recently edited this article to say that Both groups crossed over the three arched Gothic Eglinton Tournament Bridge. The article on the bridge says that it was built after, and named for, the tournament. Am I missing something here? Cmadler (talk) 13:08, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Ley tunnel

Since you seen to be a major contributor to Ley tunnel, could you modify the article introduction to include a definition of what it is? (That is, how it is to be distinguished from other tunnels?) The phrase does not appear in the OED. There are few Google hits, and the one I could find doesn't explain it, either. http://books.google.com/books?id=JyRiUFiD2JYC&pg=RA2-PA239&lpg=RA2-PA239&dq=%22ley+tunnel%22&source=web&ots=nzRtMx9okm&sig=7djyK9p-1AaXTCZEzMlRt6-liE8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result Cheers, Piano non troppo (talk) 09:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible for you to be able to provide better web citations? All your existing ones refer to the tunnels as 'secret passages' or 'secret tunnels' so there doesn't seem to be any reason to not merge the article with the one on Secret Passages. I've yet to see the term 'Ley Tunnel' used even though I've had a look myself and the one Piano non troppo found doesn't really count since the place name actually seems to be Erperly Ley. --Flidget Jerome (talk) 14:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Giffen railway station

Excellent work on the pictures. After the appalling weather over the past two days, it has been ideal photograph weather today. I had not realised so much track was still in situ.

Shame I was stuck inside on a training course all day.

Recently I have realised that I cross over the disused GPK&A line at Cunninghamhead (ex-Stewarton) every day on my wat to/from work. Given what was at the site it is sad to see it today, especially considering how close it is to the north east side of Irvine. --Stewart^{(talk | edits)} 22:17, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I also have to compliment you on the photos Rosser. One of your photos is a very similar shot to the one I took two years ago (currently in the infobox), and its amazing to see how much more overgrown it has become since then. I suppose the different times of year would also have an effect. That tyre never seems to go too far however! --- Dreamer ⁸⁴ 17:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Giffen / Brackenhills / Riccarton

The lines off the points at Giffen head up towards RNAD/DMC Beith (or whatever they call it these days). I believe you can get so far before you get hit with the perimeter fence. I've visited Brackenhills in the past, the station master's house is still there on the A737, and I *believe* the platforms are still there, but its so overgrown that its difficult to see and access. My visit wasnt in the best of weather and so didnt take the risk of going down the embankment to investigate, and decided that photos of overgrown bushes were very helpful for the Wiki article. Its a place best visited on a dry summer's day I think.

As for Riccarton, my Wiki time has been severely reduced of late and haven't had as much time as I'd like to sit down and get a page made for it. --- Dreamer ⁸⁴ 16:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Barony of Giffen

To Rosser 1954 I have been reading and studying your many articles and your bibliographies. They have been extremely helpful to me. I am attempting to research the Roughwood Hammills, that "very ancient" family whose history is so elusive in Scotland. They are all over the place in Northern Ireland. I have two questions. Do you know of an illustration or photograph of the house at Roughwood that was demolished in 1954 to make way for a stone quarry? If not, can you suggest what the house might have looked like in general terms--give a style of architecture perhaps? Second, there is a fine old house in Beith called Hamilfield, just in back of Beith Trinity Church. How would one go about tracing its ownership? I want to know who built it and who gave it the name. Thank you most kindly. I am in the USA with a seemingly infinite number of Hammill descendants.Linda1420 (talk) 13:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello Linda, I am glad that you have enjoyed the various articles I have written on Ayrshire local history. I will ask about Hamilfield at the Beith Community Council meeting this Thursday. You could try 'Beith Online' - an excellent website hosted by some American web experts. Just write a short article or ask for information. I will ask about illustrations of Roughwood - I remember reading about it. I intend taking photographs soon of a very old farm called Drumbuie which would have looked 'similar' to Roughwood. I will put them on the Barrmill site as soon as I can - give it a week at least. I see that George Robertson's 'Genealogical Account' gives quite a bit of information about the Hammils. A Doctor Hammil was physician to the Emperor of Russia! James Dobie's 'Pont' gives a good deal of information about the Hammils - including some details of the old manor house. Rosser (talk) 21:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Rosser, Thank you for answering my post. Most of your sources are available on Google Book and I will double-check for information I may have missed. I do know that Hamilfield Church once stood where Beith Trinity Church stands now. I inquired in person and by regular mail at Hamilfield House but got no response. It is currently owned by a German couple--the church rector told me that. The renters who live in the adjoining cottages don't know the history of the property. I am wondering if George Robertson's "Robert Montgomery, banker of Irvine" might have built the house. The dates would work, I think. The Ladyland article is very interesting. It amazes me to imagine that the house at Roughwood might have looked like that! Linda1420Linda1420 (talk) 15:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Barony of Ladyland

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Spier's school

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I was very surprised to see you reverted the above-mentioned edit without comment, either in your edit summary or here. You are clearly an outstanding contributor, but I'm sure you are aware of the importance of both communication and application of WP policies and guidelines. I'm aware this is something of a pet article for you, but hitting revert and hoping the issue will "go away" is certainly not the way to do it. Again, if there is anything about Wikipedia image policies and guidelines you are unclear about, particularly regarding galleries, please ask me or post questions on WT:IUP. Further such edits will be treated as disruptive. Deiz talk 08:18, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I dont quite follow your point about transferring something to your sandbox as a reason for undoing my edit, and I have to say I find it hard to believe that an editor with 17,000 edits would be unaware of how to easily revert an edit - indeed, that was, one way or another, exactly the action you performed to the article in question. It can be disappointing when you've put work in that you were unaware ran contrary to a content policy, but try not to get exasperated. Again, kudos on your fine contributions to Wikipedia. Thanks, Deiz talk 12:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Cuninghame Topographized. . .James Dobie ed.

Hi Rosser1954, No worries! I found an edition on Amazon and ordered it. I look forward to more photos when you get to it. Thank you. Linda1420Linda1420 (talk) 12:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for doing that Captain-t. Rosser (talk) 18:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Barbara Gilmour at Bantry Bay?

Hi. I have posed a question at Talk:Barbara Gilmour about Gilmour supposedly having been in the Bantry Bay area, County Cork. Nurg (talk) 05:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Eglinton Tournament Thesis

Hello. I contacted you last year concerning my thesis on the Eglinton Tournament, and you said you'd like to have a copy when it was finished. I'm almost done now and would be happy to provide one. Where and to whom should I send it? You can contact me at sarah_swinney[AT]baylor.edu if you'd prefer not to post the address. Forcewhispers (talk) 02:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

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ndash

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Please look at this edit. An ndash, not a hyphen, is to be used for ranges of numbers, whether years, pages, or otherwise. See WP:MOS. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

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Closeburn Railway Station

I have removed Closeburn from the Disused Stations in Cumbria category I can not yhink why you put it in this category Penrithguy (talk) 22:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Susanna Montgomery, Lady Eglinton

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Ellisland Farm, Dumfries: DYK?

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You are welcome, Rosser. Thanks for the refs. Getting new photographs of Ellisland Farm is a great idea! I hope you can add them to the article in time, before the DYK gets on MainPage. Happy editing. Cheers! -- Patrick 20:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

copyright violations

Greetings! I just wanted to drop off a little note to remind you to keep copyright laws in mind when creating articles. I gutted your one article, Symphytum tuberosum, for pervasive copyright violations (full sentences and entire phrases taken directly from the sources); and I deleted Sunscald and tree bark for the same reasons. Please do remember to write in your own words by paraphrasing sources instead of taking their language and assume any website is copyrighted unless it's explicitly stated that it has been released by its owner. Please also review our reliable sources guidelines. The references you used on the Symphytum tuberosum article weren't authoritative. If you write flora articles in the future, try places like http://www.efloras.org and the like. I can offer suggests for better sources, most of the time. Thanks for your time, Rkitko ^(talk) 01:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Likewise, this entire section I removed from another of your articles was a directly copy and paste from the RHS website with a few words changed. This seems to be a widespread problem; it may be good for you to read through WP:COPYVIO as well. --Rkitko ^(talk) 01:56, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, one more. This one's a little trickier: this information taken from EOL is licensed under the creative commons license cc-by-nc-sa. The nc in that license is for "non-commercial", a license restriction on text that Wikipedia can't accept because it's "not free enough". All this stuff gets complicated, so you're always better off just writing in your own words using those links as references and not sources of phrases or sentences. I'm sure I could find more, but I'll stop for now and await your response. Perhaps you can help me clean up your articles to remove other copyright violations? --Rkitko ^(talk) 02:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Just to draw a line under the above. Thanks for getting rid of Sun.. I wasn't sure how to, seeing as it's a duplicate anyway. I will need to reword more extensively it seems. Your a botanist then - useful contact. I prefer Elves to Trolls anyway. Diolch yn fawr. Rosser Gruffydd 11:39, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, if you could incorporate some of the information you have into sun scald (flora) that doesn't duplicate information there already (I see you still have it all in a sandbox), that'd be great. It's not so much as rewording sources; try to avoid that. That often leads to the same problems where you're using similar phrases and eventually sentences. Instead, try to use multiple references to form each sentence. For example, in Eriophyes tiliae tiliae, you wrote:

The mites, less than 0.2 mm long, [[overwinter]] around [[bud]]s or in [[bark]] crevices.

And the info source says:

The mites, which are less than 0.2mm long, overwinter around buds or in bark crevices.

Instead of following the reference's cadence and sentence form, you could simply say something like, "Individual mites no more than 0.2 mm long." Maybe find some other interesting info on their size or physiology from another source before moving on to their habits or galls. This way it's more of a synthesis in your own words. What helps me is reading a reference in full and then not looking at it when I write, only going back to it later to make sure I got the numbers right. Do let me know if I can help you with anything. If you're in need of other botanists, you can check in with WikiProject Plants and ask questions on that talk page: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants. Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 13:03, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Ellisland Farm, Dumfries

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Articles for deletion nomination of Ley tunnel

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DYK medal - 25 first!

		The 25 DYK Medal
		Welcome to DYK. Can I thank you on behalf of the wiki! Victuallers (talk) 20:59, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh... in the list of number of DYKs you seem to say that you have done over 150 ... which is possible. However I see on your main page you say the number is c. 27. Can you check the list Victuallers (talk) 21:02, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes I think you kave misunderstood. The first number is the total number of DYKs that you have written yourself and successfully nominated (or someone nommed it for you). The second figure is where you have seen someone elses new article and nominated it for them. I think this may be zero for you, but its a good thing to do as it makes newbies/others welcome. OK? Victuallers (talk) 19:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK One Hundred

		The 100 DYK Medal
		WELL DONE ROSSER1954. YOU NOW HAVE THIS GRAND MEDAL IN TOTAL INSUFFICIENT EXCHANGE FOR THE DYK ARTICLES YOU HAVE DONATED TO ANYBODY WHO CARES TO READ, EDIT OR EXPLOIT THEM. I SEE YOU ARE WELL ON THE WAY TO THE 200.... THANK YOU FROM ME AND THE WIKI VICTUALLERS (TALK) 16:49, 10 OCTOBER 2009 (UTC)

SS Paul

I'm not sure that this article is at the correct title. SS usually means steamship. A better title would be Paul (1919). Mjroots (talk) 19:44, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Polnoon Castle

Hi, just had a read of your article and went to have it nominated for DYK, which you can check it out there. Donnie Park (talk) 01:23, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Polnoon Castle

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Hessilhead

Is this what you wanted? Rich Farmbrough, 21:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC).

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File:13 Earl Eglinton.JPG?

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Seagate Castle

I nominated your article Seagate Castle for DYK. Joe Chill (talk) 00:42, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Seton Montgomerie Annecdote about Oscar Wilde

Hi Ross,

Would you be able to provide a date or year, and any extra details you can of the incident from Montgomerie's memoirs? Since it appears to be a rare book, and you've got a copy, I'd be obliged: it's a good remembrnce of him but it would be best to weave it into the article proper. Ktlynch (talk) 13:11, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Seagate Castle

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Materialscientist (talk) 06:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to let you know

that I just removed your image from Angel of Grief. That article is about a specific piece of sculpture created around 1890 or so. Your image, nice as it was, was from considerably earlier and thus did not really belong. Feel free to discuss it further if you wish. Einar Carptrash (talk) 23:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Dalmore House and Estate

You've obviously put a lot of love into Dalmore House and Estate but I would gently remind you that Wikipedia is not an image repository. If nothing else, the sheer quantity of photos makes it quite hard to follow the text, which makes the article less effective at communicating its message - people will just stop reading. It's a good rule of thumb that if you feel you have to include image galleries, then you're overwhelming the reader with pictures and need to rethink how many you use. If you don't remove them, then someone else will do it for you. Have a look at Tantallon Castle, Doune Castle or Belton House for an idea of what you should be aiming for. The official guidance on image galleries is at WP:IG and there's more advice at WP:Galleries.
Incidentally, an infobox is a nice idea to help give your readers the basic facts about something - use {{Infobox building}}, {{Infobox military structure}}, {{Infobox UK property}} or similar. Cheers. FlagSteward (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Taphrina padi

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DYK for Lixus concavus

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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

File:Yew tree weir, Lugton Water, Irvine, Scotland..jpg

Why isn't this image being used? It is a very nice shot. Kingturtle (talk) 19:22, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

John Dunlop

Hi, I am interested in the image of a memorial to John Dunlop Esq you have uploaded to the Susanna Montgomery, Countess of Eglinton and Dundonald, South Ayrshire pages. The description you have given says James Dunlop, but my interpretation is that it reads John Dunlop.

I am wondering if you have any further information regarding this factor (or agent as I understand this to mean)? My specific interest is that my g-g-g-grandfather was a John Dunlop from Scotland born in 1777. If reading memorial correctly (which is very hard to do) it was dedicated in 1836 when Dunlop was 60. This would align with the birth date I have.

Thanks and best regards,

Jeremy

Hello Jeremy,

Thanks for your help - I have changed the name to John. I think that I read (somewhere) that this gentleman was Factor (ran the Auchans estate on behalf of the Earl, Countess, etc.) at Auchans for fifty years. I think I can read the age 'Ninty' (sic).

Dunlop is a good Ayrshire name - see the article on the village of Dunlop at my 'Corsehill' article, Dunlop House, Dunlop Cheese (article), etc. The Dunlops of that Ilk were in Ayrshire for centuries - see the ref to the book on the History of Dunlop. Well worth getting from ABE books, etc.

I hope that this is helpful.

Rosser Gruffydd 08:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Jeremy,

You might like to know that John Dunlop is quoted as keeping records of a raingauge during 1808-9 at Auchans in a famous book - Aiton, William (1811). General View of The Agriculture of the County of Ayr; observations on the means of its improvement; drawn up for the consideration of the Board of Agriculture, and Internal Improvements, with Beautiful Engravings. Glasgow. P. 17 -18. Rosser Gruffydd 19:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Kilbernie Loch and AWAS

Heya, I was just reading through the article Kilbirnie Loch, which you wrote earlier this week. You make reference to two publications by the Ayrshire & Wigtown Archeological Society as sources, but two of your inline citations (No. 1 and No. 7, as of writing this) don't make it clear which publication they're referring to. Hopefully this won't be too difficult to clear up! GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 10:45, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Any other thoughts and do you have anything else to add to the article? Rosser Gruffydd 15:13, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Kilbirnie Loch

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Cunninghamhead Estate.

There are other contributors to the Cunninghamhead Estate who have a worthwhile contribution to make. Deleting their material is against the whole spirit of a Wiki - the work of many different authors.

You have been quite incorrect in some fact about Cunninghamhead; some have been corrected. Other material has been added by other authors to give you a better idea of the history of Cunninghamhead. Continued removal of other people's work is vandalism. Changing history to suit your own objectives is a dangerous act. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.193.73 (talk) 20:23, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Sort it out on the article talk page. Because of violations of our BP:BLP policy I've protected the article. Dougweller (talk) 08:37, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for protecting the page. Unfortunately you've protected a version which isn't accurate. Well done! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.83.158 (talk) 09:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Didn't you know Admins always protect WP:The Wrong Version? Probably inadvertently you've followed the advice there, "If a page you are working on is protected on The Wrong Version, remember that it is essential that you inform the sysop who protected it that they protected The Wrong Version". Fortunately that's why we have article talk pages, to discuss the article. Dougweller (talk) 10:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I have left comments at the article. You must appreciate that an attempt to discourage prospective purchasers can have serious and expensive consequences. Rosser Gruffydd 21:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

There has been no attempt to discourage any purchaser. You must not believe that anybody about to buy such a property wouldn't take professional advice on it's condition, nor would they not look themselves at the property. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.60.13 (talk) 15:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Corsehill, Lainshaw, Robertland and Dunlop

Hi, in your last edit to Corsehill, Lainshaw, Robertland and Dunlop you deleted info with no explanation, so I've undone your edit. It's a good idea to use the edit summary, or in more significant cases to use the article talk page to explain your edit. You've evidently done a fair amount of work on the article, so a change with explanation should be no problem. Thanks, dave souza, talk 10:33, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, look forward to these improvements, dave souza, talk 11:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

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