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Be'er Sheva North Railway Station

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A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Be'er Sheva North Railway Station, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Rambutan (talk) 15:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Be'er Sheva North Railway Station, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Be'er Sheva North Railway Station satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Be'er Sheva North Railway Station and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Be'er Sheva North Railway Station during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Rambutan (talk) 15:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yiddish surname?

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To the best of my knowledge Dimant is a Yiddish surname. Is this not correct? My reason for asking is that there are editors out there who keep changing the article on DJ Lethal to say that Leor Dimant's name is Latvian. (There are indeed some Latvians with the surname "Dimants", but not "Dimant".) — Zalktis 15:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes: DIMANT is used as a Yiddish surname. A search at Jewish Records Indexing Poland records 160 hits with this exact spelling, and about 1500 hits with minor variations on the name. --Redaktor 08:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for the confirmation. — Zalktis 10:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there is currently a discussion about the notability of Rabbi Shraga Hager your insight on this would greatly be appreciated[1]. Have a beautiful day--יודל 13:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birth and death categories

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Hi: I noticed you had changed the birth category back on Yaakov Moelin. I would like to direct your attention to the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:People_by_year which says that for both known and approximate dates you are supposed to use the exact year; it does not specifically mention ca. dates and I had asked about it on the talk page but received no response; so this is just my way of explaining my rationale; it seems that it should be spelled out more clearly. Let me know what you think. Thanks for your time and Shana Tova --FeanorStar7 23:18, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I cannot see your question on the talk page. To me it seems unreasonable to use the precise year category when the year of birth is unknown. --Redaktor 23:17, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Square, New York

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Hello Redaktor. I am curious as to why you deleted the section on New Square, New York concerning the use of the Yiddish language within this community. Why was this removed? Thanks and take care.

I don't understand your comment. Far from deleting it, I wrote it! --Redaktor 22:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beit Shemesh Railway Station

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Thank you for your informative edit to Beit Shemesh Railway Station. --Redaktor 18:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • You're welcome. I had been to the station, and I was surprised to see no mention of the details in the Beit Shemesh article. It's amazing what you find in trying to source unsourced claims in articles: many are untrue or unverifiable, but when you can find a good source, it makes it all the more worthwhile to me as an editor, and can make Wikipedia more useful to those who read the articles. Alansohn 19:49, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Slonim Article

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It looks like there was some damage done to the Slonim article, can you take a look at it ? yisraeldov 14:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gilo

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I noticed that you edited the Wikipedia article on the Israeli Settlement of Gilo. While you almost completely censored all references to it as a settlement, it came to my attention in particular that you minimised the viewpoint of--Redaktor 11:11, 21 October 2007 (UTC) it being such as to that held only by Yasser Arafat. Not only did you not even read the references cited, including the United Nations, you are completely unqualified to make edits on this topic, if you truly think Yasser Arafat is the only one who holds the view that Gilo is an Israeli Settlement and Illegal under International Law. The United Nations and The European Union both recognise its illegality, as do a long line of Lawyers who specialize in International Law. When the only party who denies its illegality is the belligerent occupier them self, don't you think that might be called bias? Your edit was filled with a number of other factual errors, and i noticed that you changed the pages layout, so that the mostly irrelevant, tourist sort of information was put ahead of the settlements legal status and the territorial acquisitions. Care to explain? Colourinthemeaning 22:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1 I do not censor anything. Repeating the word settelement more than ten times is totally unnecessary, other than to make a point. 2 The reference which allegedly refers to the inernational community is actually a statement by Yasser Arafat. 3 The United Nations and the European Commmunity do not recognize Israeli sovereignty over any part of Jerusalem. 4 Indisputable factual information belongs ahead of politically disputed issues. 5 The expression "belligerent occupier" is a POV. 6 The only belligerents in Gilo are the Arab snipers. --Redaktor 23:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree the word settlement may be overused, but it only appears in the article 6 times, not 10. It was used to replace the word 'neighbourhood,' which itself is a point of view -- and more so one, because it is a view held by a small number of people, compared to the International Community. While most of the use of the word 'settlement' is used in discussing the dispute over this word, I will do my best to rework the article so that it does not use the word so much. I wonder what you would prefer I call it, though? The reference quotes not just Yasser Arafat but UN Documents, Resolutions and other NGO documents. Do you really believe that information on how to get to a place, and what you might find around there, belongs ahead of what it is on Wikipedia? The term "belligerent occupier" is not any more a POV than the view that Coke is a soft drink, it refers to the party who is on land that they do not have sovereignty to, and yet refuse to leave. Your final point, that the 'only belligerents in Gilo are the arab snipers' truly highlights that you do not understand the nuances of the word. You can't defend yourself on somebody else's land, legally, nor can you be a belligerent against those occupying your land, however deplorable the means. Notice, i use the word 'occupying,' not as a point of view, but as a fact -- what makes Israel an occupier is simply the FACT that they are on somebody else's land, which they have no sovereignty over, against the will of those there (not counting those that have been 'put' there). Lastly, I'd like to ask what you believe Gilo is? The Har Gilo Settlement is a settlement, is it not? Located very close to Gilo, both are East of the Armistice Line, so what differentiates them? Colourinthemeaning 10:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing POV about the word neighbourhood—it is completely neutral—whereas settlement is used in a pejorative sense. The location information is not 'How to get there'. 'What you might find there' or 'tourist information'. It is a purely geographic decsription and, without doubt, belongs before a political discussion. Yes, you may say that Israel has no sovereignty over Gilo, but then, nor does anyone else. And what do you mean by 'against the will of those there'? --Redaktor 11:11, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The term neighborhood is a subjective word, simply because of its connotations, and in this case, because it is predominantly only 'those that live there,' so to speak, that view it as such. Internationally however, Gilo is recognized as a Settlement, because thats what it is. Essentially, every definition, explanation or name will be laden with POV's, it really just comes down to whether that point of view is held by everyone. Despite our disagreements, however, looking over the Gilo article now, I am pleased to say that I think it constitutes a factual, even-sided and unbiased explanation. I only had a problem with the topographic information where it was before, because it was two paragraphs above the first line that explained what Gilo in fact was. We've got that sorted now though, so thank you. By my comment, 'against the will of those there,' i meant that Israel's presence within the West Bank and East of the Armistice line, is not what a large majority of people who live, and lived there, want or wanted. I was not referring to the settlers or other Israeli's who have relocated to the West Bank after the 67 war, so apologies if that is where you misunderstood me. Colourinthemeaning 17:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hasidic dynasties

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Hi Redaktor: I came across the Template:Hasidic dynasties you created and wanted to give you a hearty yasher koach. Wow! What a job! Tizku lemitzvos! I rarely hand out barnstars or Wikipedia awards, but my heart tells me that I must do so now. I hereby award you {{The da Vinci Barnstar}} for all your amazing technical and editorial work. The award appears on your user page. Thank you! IZAK 08:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi i would like to second the above compliments on u i even copied it in whole for other wikipedia languages, it is astronomical work that shoes how one person can change the face of this medium, since many Hasidic Rabbis biographies are being saved from speedy deletions - since they will see the name apearing on this template, who knows how many labor went down the drain all those years when the sysops did not bother to check by speedy deleting names they did not know. may hashem repay your hard work with many more Zechusim here to come for us in the wikipedia. but all this should not take u away from the yiddish project, u r needed more there than here, since the english has milllions of users we have only u, thanks.--יודל 11:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Yiddisheryid: I think we can be melamed zechus on the sysops in this instance and I think no articles about Hasidic dynasties have been lost or deleted (except maybe through internal discussions between the Judaic editors working on these articles) and I cannot recall any articles about Rebbes or notable Hasidim that have been deleted. If you notice any such moves please notify me. So you can take a deep breath and relax on this worry. Thanks for noticing and appreciating User Redaktor (talk · contribs)'s good work! He must be from the Tzadikim Nistarim. IZAK 09:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Izak nobody can relax we have here a jewish editor who cls himsef a Rabbi and u know him better than me that he speedy deletes and votes to delete all hareidy rabbis, and if not User Redaktor we would not saved the kosever rebbe shrage hager article, redakter isnt a zadik nister he is just somebody who cares deeply about chasidic history and our hasidic life and he has bothered to be voice full and open about it and not be intimidated by bullies who call themselves rabbis and use sysop tools against other users who don't have that tools. thanks for caring--יודל 13:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for all those kind words (and the barnstar!!) It is always nice to be appreciated.--Redaktor 12:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

<3 !גוטן טאַק

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Can you help me out with typing Yiddish on the computer? There's a Hebrew transliterator on the Internet, but it doesn't work well with Yiddish. How do you type out that cool language? --nlitement [talk] 14:33, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you meant "א גוטן טאג". The best way to type Yiddish is to use your keyboard with a Yiddish (or Hebrew) font. For a simple interface go to Yiddish Typewriter. --Redaktor (talk) 14:44, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
דאַנק פֿור די הילף Is it normal for the webpage to use niqqud? "Gutn tag" gives me "גוטן תּג". Also, why do you write it as א גוטן טאג and not גוטן טאַג? What does the alef at the beginning do and why doesn't the a in "tag" not have a diacritic below it? --nlitement [talk] 16:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Some styles use אַ and אָ . tag is not Yiddish; the word is טאָג tog. In Yiddish one says א גוטן טאג; the א is the indefinite article. Many (most?) Yiddish writers omit the diacritics. HTH.
PS: Yiddish uses פֿאר for German für. I would have said: א דאנק פאר דער הילף --Redaktor (talk) 16:54, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ohh.. I see.. so one would basically say "a good day" and not "good day" like in German? So eyn is not the article, but only a number? Well, this should get me into a.. not too bad start with Yiddish! --nlitement [talk] 17:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, איין is an adjectival form for one. --Redaktor (talk) 17:54, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not to bother you too much by changing the topic, but do you happen to know if it was common for secular (?) Jews to marry non-Jews in 20th century Belarus? Just wondering.. because my Jewish ancestor(s), of maternal lineage, didn't have Hebrew or Biblical names. I've tried searching for Shinder on Jewishgen.org's Belarus database, and most people with that name are from Grodno gubernia which is where my Shinder greatgrandmother comes from but I don't see any familiar names there. How secure would you consider my "Jewry"? Jews were a great majority in Belarus (including Brest city) during that time anyway, but is that enough? --nlitement [talk] 19:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That is a very dificult question to answer. What are the names of your maternal ancestors? --Redaktor (talk) 22:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, apologies for the slightly bad wording.. the only people in my family tree as far as traced with a Yiddish surname are Aleksandr and Nadia Shinder (Aleksandr's daughter). Unfortunately no one can recall my greatgreatgrandmother's name. Also, they lived there until '44 (surprisingly missed by the Nazis, which I definitely reckon is because they did not practice Judaism), and were later sent to Kazakhstan. I'm just wondering how far you'd have to trace your ancestry in order to be recognized as Jewish. --nlitement [talk] 23:19, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you have to trace your identity back to someone recognizably Jewish. There must be some record (eg Nadia's birth certificate) which identifies her mother. --Redaktor (talk) 08:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: your e-mail request

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I cannot get that to work, not sure if its a unicode error or a RtL issue. Sorry βcommand 16:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Shirahadasha (talk) 21:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Radoszyce

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Is the town in your article Radoszyce, Świętokrzyskie Voivodeship the same place as Radoszyce, Subcarpathian Voivodeship? If so then there are two articles on the same town. If different places no problem. Cheers, Sting_au Talk 11:13, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No—different voivodeships! --Redaktor 11:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yiddish stub

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Hi Redaktor: As one of Wikipedia's Yiddish experts you may be interested that I recently created a {{Yiddish-stub}} but it has now been nominated for deletion, see Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/December/20. What do you think? Sincerely, IZAK (talk) 00:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

help

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Please respond to Bikinibomb's comments about figs and Judaism here, thanks Slrubenstein | Talk 01:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a pretty pointless discussion to me. --Redaktor (talk) 21:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mir template

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Can't you fit the photo in somewhere? It was my favourite bit! Chesdovi (talk) 00:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for pointing it out—I didn't notice that it had gone! --Redaktor (talk) 00:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One of your changes to the Yiddish book

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I see that you use wikipedia much more than wikibooks, but I left a comment for you in your talk page in wikibooks. Basically, I wanted to refer you to what I wrote at Wikibooks:Talk:Yiddish_for_Yeshivah_Bachurim/Reading_Yiddish. BTW, I find it very hard to believe that you are Chareidi, speak English and Yiddish, and don't speak Yeshivish. Clum (talk) 08:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which bit strains your credulity? --Redaktor (talk) 11:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have lots of friends who a) are Chareidi, b) speak English, and c) speak Yiddish, and all of them are extremely proficient in Yeshivish. BTW, you are correct that most of the Yiddish I know is from my Rebbe, who most certainly doesn't speak it natively (he's Israeli). I have friends who speak Yiddish natively, but they speak to me in English. I do sometimes overhear conversations in Yiddish, though. It took me a while to figure out what your username means. --Clum (talk) 13:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Idea for Talmud articles

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Hi Redaktor: I am reposting the following request from User Sh76us (talk · contribs) on my user talk page for wider notification:

I was thinking of trying to stimulate development of a series of articles on Gemara concepts and doctrines, maybe to help children or newcomers to Gemara with explanations of some fundamental concepts that recur throughout the Gemara. Some examples might be articles on Yiush, Chazakah, Ta'aninun (as in "Ta'aninun L'Yoresh"), Eidim Zomemin (forgive my awful transliterations), Migu, etc., etc. Maybe we could even create a category or subcategory for it. I created Breira in this vein. As I don't have the experience or expertise in Wikipedia to know what to do to best develop this idea, I figured I'd come to you for your opinions on: (1) whether it's a good idea; and (2) How to best go about implementing it. Thanks Sh76us (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Centralized discussion at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Idea for Talmud articles. Thank you. IZAK (talk) 03:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you cleaned up Chernobyl (Hasidic dynasty) and it seems you removed the link I created to Hornstipel. The first link in the article currently links to a non-existent page on the Hornostipel dynasty. should we emend that link to point to the hometown instead? Kol Tov Rabbi-m (talk) 17:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have started the Hornsteipl (Hasidic dynasty) article. --Redaktor (talk) 19:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

bios

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It helps to add at least one reference at the time you make the article -- e.g. Aaron Twerski of Chernobyl. I recognize him as notable but not everyone will unless there is some source listed. DGG (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reminder! Now remedied.--Redaktor (talk) 12:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I see that you created and edited the Rabbi Chanokh Heynekh HaKohen Levin article. Can you provide the source for name of his wife "Chana Hentshe Feyge Pachter"? Sources that I have seen (Bromberg in Ha'Admor R' Chanoch Henoch Hacohen Levine Me'Aleksander, and Chashovoh leToivo) show the name as Chana Faige with no surname, the daughter of Yaakov Yoikel of Przysucha. In her 1864 Przasnysz death registration her name is listed as "Chana Basia", the wife of Chanoch Henoch Lewin (no parents name listed). The name Chaia Basia is listed more than once in the document, making it unlikely to be a typo, but it could be a clerk error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KosherJava (talkcontribs) 21:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hentshe from Hamodia, issue 250. צדיקי עולם identifies his father-in-law as Tsvi Hersh Pachter of Prshishkhe. However, Pachter means 'lessee' so maybe it wasn't a surname. --Redaktor (talk) 00:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the translation of the death registration, it is apperant that he had 3 wives. The one who died in 1864 (as mentioned in the yizkor book and Bromberg's book) is based on the death record that I have a copy of. An extract of the data shows the following: 1864 death #9, registration date: Feb 28,1864, location: Przasnysz, event date: Feb 27,1864, Surname LEWI[N], Given Name: Chana Basia, Maiden Name: RABINOWICZ, Age 46, Father: Uszer, Mother: Laja, Husband: Henoch LEWIN,Rabin (Rabbi) and daugther Elka Hudes WALBERG. This wife is not his first, being the approx same age as his children. I am curious if you have seen this mentioned anywhere. This should probably be copied to the talk page. KosherJava (talk) 02:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Two wives (no need for a third)I shall edit the box accordingly. I reckon the daughter Elka Hudes was hers but not his. Thanks for the details. By all means add whatever is relevant to the Talk page. --Redaktor (talk) 13:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

categories for deletion

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I nominated two categories you created, Category:Orthodox Jewish communities in England and Category:Orthodox Jewish communities in London, for deletion. Discussion is here. --Eliyak T·C 05:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:HE

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Hi Redaktor!

I have reverted most of your edits to the page. Here is why:

  1. Mapik - there was clear consensus to ignore the mapik because it's ignored in the pronunciation by all Hebrew-speakers worldwide. Morevoer, it's extremely difficult to find out what words have a mapik - most Hebrew dictionaries, even those with nikud, do not include mapiks. I think only the biggest ones like Even Shoshan and Sapir have them.
  2. Acronyms - not exactly true. A two-letter acronym is still an acronym, so you can't say 'abbreviations which are not acronyms'. For example, MP in Hebrew is מ"צ (Mem-Tzadik), which is an acronym but isn't treated as a regular word like Hafshan, Kistu'ah, etc.
  3. Mishna vs. Mishnah - not sure what you mean because you didn't make a related edit, but it doesn't really matter, we can just provide another example.

-- Ynhockey (Talk) 13:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Almost everyone who commented about mapik he said that it should be rendered as h.
  2. The generally accepted meaning of an acronym is an abbreviation which is read as a word; so my edits stand. מ"צ is an abbreviation but not an acronym

--Redaktor (talk) 15:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for not replying earlier, I didn't see that you replied. If you can, please reply on my talk page next time so that I will notice it immediately. Now about your points:
1. There was no real central discussion on the issue, and only a few editors commented - although there seemed to be an agreement that a mapik would be too complicated to transliterate. Doron stated that the Hebrew Academy dictated that it should be transliterated, and that a he with mapik is a consonant, unlike one without a mapik, although he never said that it would be a good idea to transliterate mapik on Wikipedia. He doesn't really imply either way. Another editor, Rafi Neal, seems to believe that he at the end of words should be transliterated either way, with or without mapik, and agrees that transliterating the mapik is complicated and probably won't be needed much anyway. A third user, Tomer, advocates using "hh" for mapik (carried away?), although he clearly advocates a very strict phonetical transliteration (e.g. q for kuf, etc.) and therefore taking his argument on the mapik and pairing it with the current guideline is taking his version completely out of context. It is likely that Tomer would offer a different opinion if he was told that a simple and not direct transliteration was required.
2. Not sure by whom it's 'generally accepted', but let's not confuse users by using obscure non-dictionary definitions. An acronym is defined very clearly in English dictionaries, and by definition, Mem-Tzadik (and similar) is an acronym. I assume your edit on this issue was to clarify, therefore even if you're technically correct, we should use a much clearer version for the unenlightened user. The wording should be as simple and unambiguous as possible.
I absolutely don't mind starting a centralized discussion about the mapik, although seeing as how the guideline has morphed from being a strict transliteration table to a much looser one, I don't think it is appropriate to transliterate a mapik while ignoring dagesh and other more common symbols.
Hope to hear from you, Ynhockey (Talk) 21:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kotsk (Hasidic dynasty)

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I see you started this, but was there ever a dynasty?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠22:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed there was a flourishing dynasty until World War II. There is a surviving Kostsker Rebbe living in Israel. I shall try to add a bit to the article. --Redaktor (talk) 07:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Borenstein or Bornsztajn?

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Where on earth did the spelling Borenstein come from? His name was Avrohom Bornsztajn. --Redaktor (talk) 23:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Redaktor, I see that you are a "buki" in Hebrew (and Polish) pronunciation and spelling. I don't agree, however, that we should use such obscure spellings as "Bornsztajn" when most Jewish publications use the simpler and easier (for English speakers) to read, "Borenstein" (YU Torah Online, Jewish Press, JewishLaw.com, Feldheim Publishers, JewishGen.org). I also question your spelling of "Avrohom" vs. "Avraham" and "Chidushei HoRim" vs. "HaRim," which is how I've always seen it spelled and which is how it (Avraham) is spelled on many other Wikipedia pages. Could you direct me to a Wikipedia policy page or consensus discussion which backs up your spelling choices? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:33, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. If you spell it Borenstein you guarantee that it will not be pronounced correctly (BornShtine).
  2. It is generally accepted that articles about Chasidic leaders and courts should use Ashkenazi transcription. (see WP:HE#Ashkenazi)

--Redaktor (talk) 21:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I added references to his Polish birth record and his parent's marriage record that use the spelling Borensztain KosherJava (talk) 22:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, KosherJava; much appreciated. --Redaktor (talk) 08:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the information; I do appreciate the links. Now KosherJava has introduced yet another spelling. I prefer Borensztain to Borensztajn. Is that acceptable to you? Yoninah (talk) 08:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's OK. --Redaktor (talk) 09:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Avnei Nezer

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Hi, Redaktor, I just noticed you changed the spelling of "Avnei Nezer" to "Avnei Neizer". Honestly, I've never seen it spelled that way. If you Google the latter, you get a question: "Did you mean Avnei Nezer?" Yoninah (talk) 11:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it back to Avnei Neizer
I don't know what generates Google prompts—Google reports more than 2000 hits for Avnei Neizer, which is the way everyone I know says it. I have never heard anyone actually say Avnei Nezer. --Redaktor (talk) 11:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Commissions

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Hello Redaktor, I thought I might ask your opinion. What do you think of the idea I have to put on my user page an offer to do "commissions" or "write articles on request" (for free of course) i.e. offer to research and write up any articles of a certain limited nature (=just Orthodox Rabbonim, have to be deceased already, looking especially for Rabbonim of the 'old school' who were Gedolei Torah and knew shas ba'al peh). I'd ask people to give me names of Rabbonim they would like an article on and I'd try, subject to compatability with the type of article and type of Rov I like writing on, to write a wiki bio of the said Rov. What do you think? {ps I'm also asking User:Izak) Lostvelt (talk) 13:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent idea!! --Redaktor (talk) 16:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zionist intolerance

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Hello! Rabbi or Mr. Redaktor. I am relativelly new in the Wikipedia, but I see that the Zionists made themselves very comfortable here, and are attacking everyone that believes different then them. I have created the Yishuv haYashan article, which is something important historically speaking. I see they are trying to remove any information about the Haredim who didn't participate in the Zionist movement. Furthermore the whole history of the Yishuv haYashan Kollelim was ignored but instead an article about Halukka in a negative spotlight. They are trying to persuade that all those who did for our brothers in Eretz Yisroel were Zionists. I would suggest that we incorporate in a WikiProject:Yishuv haYashan or WikiProject:Torah Judaism in order to clarify the facts.

HagiMalachi (talk) 16:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do you object to in the article? Setting up a new WikiProject won't solve anything, will it? --Redaktor (talk) 17:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

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I've been setting up a website myself, somewhat modeled after Wikipedia. It's intended as a mix of encyclopedia and news site. See: http://meahshearim.googlepages.com . You're invited to leave your opinion via my email or talk page. Keep in mind that it's just under construction (this is basically the work of about 5 days, a few hours each day). --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 13:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. --Redaktor (talk) 14:39, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Haredi Judaism

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In Israel and France at least, the majority of Haredim are Sefaradic. And even Lithuanian speak regular Hebrew and not Ashkenazi Hebrew. So the majority rule is Khtav among Haredim. Benjil (talk) 16:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, I was speaking about Israel and France that I know. The majority of Haredim in the world live in Israel (all the Orthodox Jews in the USA are about the same number than the haredim alone in Israel). The majority of Haredim there, even among Ashkenazim (I live in Jerusalem, I have quite a few Haredim shuls around), pray in Israeli Hebrew. The only place I ever heard the Ashkenazi Hebrew was deep inside Bnei Brak or in some Hassidic synagogue (and not all of them, I have Habad family and they too speak Israeli Hebrew, which is logical - most of Habad are Hozrim Betshuva or their children). So the conclusion is that a great part of the haredim pray in modern Hebrew, that the one who don't still understand modern Hebrew and that some, like the Sefaradim and other Mizharim, don't use or even understand the Ashkenazi pronunciation. Benjil (talk) 19:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strange. I often visit Jerusalem, and in all the chareidi neighbourhoods I frequent, be it Har Nof, Romema etc, they all daven with an Ashkenazi pronunciation. And i don't believe that the majority of chareidim in Israel are Sefardic. --Redaktor (talk) 19:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are no clear cut stats about the composition of the Haredi public, but I remember I read it somewhere, I need to find it. One indication is also that the haredi ashkenazi parties at the Knesset got 6 seats and Shass 12 in 2006. Yes, many Shas voters are not haredim while most (not all) voters of Yahadut Hatora are. Political commentators estimated that the core-haredi vote for Shas was 7 seats among the 12. Benjil (talk) 05:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly my point. More than 40% of Israeli chareidim are Ashkenazi, to which you can add more than 90% of American chareidim. --Redaktor (talk) 06:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to mention, obviously there are more ashkenazi than sefardi chareidim in Israel. And Benjil: not a single Ashkenazi chareidi person uses the Sefardic (or, actually, the "Ivrit") pronunciation of Hebrew for praying. Don't ask me what kind of 'chareidim' you are mentioning, but I can tell you that they are not normal chareidim. I'd recommend you, Benjil, to go a real chareidi shul in a neighborhood such as Givat Shaul, Geulah, Ezras Torah, Romemah, the Shmuel HaNovi area, Ramot, Ramat Shlomo, Neveh Yaakov - Kaminetz, Har Nof, on Sorotzkin, Beit Yisrael, or perhaps in Bnei Brak, Beitar Illit, Kiryat Sefer, Elad, Ashdod or Kiryat Gat, and there listen to the davening. Then try again to tell me that "most Ashkenazi chareidim in Israel use the Sefardi pronunciation". --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 11:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, if you decide that only people like you - crazy fringe anti-Zionists cult people - are "haredim", it vastly simplifies the subject. Sadly for you, reality does not work like that. Benjil (talk) 16:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The people there are not "crazy fringe anti-Zionists cult people". I know the groups; I actually lived on the outskirts of Meah She'arim for a year. I went to two Chareidi Yehovot in Yerushalyim, both mixed Israeli-Chutznik, and have some familiarity with a number of Chareidi and Dati Leumi communities. (I live in Haifa.)
All male Ashkenazi native Chareidim that I know of, although they speak Ivrit, pray with an Ashkenazi accent, although often without the Yiddish (semi-mil'el) emphasis. (Interestingly, this is how I was taught in my Moderm Orthodox day school in Boro Park.) I have never seen otherwise. The women vary, I think; a young lady I work with was taught in Ivrit, except for Shem HaShem (God's name), which she was taught to pronounce Ashkenazi (Beit Ya'ackov in Haifa, with Bagrut).
Please let me know of an Ashkenazi Chareidi institution that prays in Ivrit. I would be interested in seeing it.
Finally, in discussing vote tallies, it is important to note that a certain percentage does not vote; these would mostly be Ashkenazim, I would think. Also recall that Shas has always got the Ashkenazi Chereidi-dissenter vote.--84.229.51.101 (talk) 12:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)84.229.51.101 (talk) 12:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Square's separated sidewalks

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Hi Redaktor, could you help out here: Talk:New_Square,_New_York#Separated_sidewalks? Thanks. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 11:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above page is showing up in Category:Unassessed school articles. Can you please remove it. Thanks. Five Years 16:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for the heads up. --Redaktor (talk) 00:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Judaism Newsletter

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The Judaism Newsletter

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This newsletter was automatically delivered because you are a member of one or more Judaism related WikiProjects. If you would like to opt out of future mailings, please remove your name from this list. As always, please direct all questions, comments, requests, barnstars, offers of help, and angry all-caps anti-semitic rants to my talk page. Thanks, and have a great month. L'Aquatique[approves|this|message] 20:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I have decided to submit this article to peer review in order to qualify for Featured Article status. Would you kindly click on the above link and add your comments or suggestions? Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A Freilichen Chanukoh!

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שׂמח!

From Chesdovi

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Merge discussion

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Hi Redaktor, please add your comment to the merge discussion now underway at Avrohom Bornsztain. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:13, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know that a consensus discussion is underway about changing Shlom bayit to Shalom bayit. Please add your opinion at Talk:Shlom bayit#Requested move. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 23:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Check Wikipedia

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Hello Redaktor, I have create a Check Wikipedia output for yiwiki. See here. Please create a page in yiwiki and tell me the name of this page at my discussion page. So I can create the translation page. I will not create this site by my self, because I have every time trouble with this left-to-right writing. :-) -- sk (talk) 20:23, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Redaktor, please translate this page. Show for example: de:Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Übersetzung. -- sk (talk) 07:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
New interface! -- sk (talk) 07:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Giwer

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He's a notorious anti-Semite/kook on Usenet, and he knows he's going to be reverted if you look at a couple of the edits I've reverted, so just here to make some sort of point I presume. There's no way I can AGF with him I'm afraid. Dougweller (talk) 13:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And he's back. Dougweller (talk) 09:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfC Haredi or Ultra-Orthodox

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I see you are rarely editing lately. I hope all is well. Please add your comment to Talk:Modi'in Illit#Ultra-Orthodox.2FHaredi. Thanks --Shuki (talk) 21:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nableez is into making sure settlement articles suck with his POV because he certainly is not interested in improving the articles, but in any case, I'm not sure if MI is in the Shomron. --Shuki (talk) 21:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chaim Gottlieb of Stropkov (Rabbi)

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Hi Redaktor,

I saw that you edited the Rav Chaim Joseph Gottlieb of Stropkov. I am a descandant of the Rav and wanted to ask you if you are too or if you have any other relationship to Stropkov or the Gottlieb family.

Thank you and Shana Tova! Felix

(you can email me at fesky22188@web.de) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fesky22188 (talkcontribs) 09:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


I claim no relationship. --Redaktor (talk) 22:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yiddish Image deletion

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I was wondering if you could have the image at the Yiddish Wikipedia deleted? It is overriding an image at the Wikimedia Commons. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:08, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot find a file of this name at Wikimedia Commons. --Redaktor (talk) 00:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chabad on Wikipedia arbitration request

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Since you have been kind enough to comment at the unresolved WP:COI case at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/User:Yehoishophot Oliver, you may wish to know that it has now been nominated for arbitration. Feel free to review at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Chabad movement editors and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

Thank you for your input and patience, IZAK (talk) 09:24, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request for article improvement

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I wonder if I might suggest something. The main Chareidi article is pretty good, but some of the supporting articles are relatively one-sided - not in the sense of negative, but in the sense of a distorted picture. Here are two that I saw.

1. World Agudath Israel. Nothing here about the modern (German) component, which founded the original organiztion. I commented further in the article discussion page.

2. Chareidim and Zionism (I forgot the exact title). There is nothing here about positive statements in this regard, and the Chareidi contributions to expanding the Yishuv (Petach Tikva, the new neighborhoods) and building the State. Unfortunately, while I have good sources, they are not usable for Wikipedia. It would be good with someone with access to the scholarship would redress this.--84.229.51.101 (talk) 12:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration case opens/Chabad movement

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Hi Redaktor: Since you have been involved in the topic of Chabad, this is to let you know that an official arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement. You may wish to add your comments for the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Evidence. The ArbCom asks that evidence be submitted within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Workshop. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 06:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced BLPs

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Hello Redaktor! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 2 article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the article:

  1. Mosheh Twersky - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL

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Motion to dismiss or keep the Chabad editors case

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Hi Redaktor: A discussion has started if the Chabad editors case should be dismissed or should remain open. As someone who has been involved in the serious COI discussions leading up to this ArbCom case you should be informed of this motion and have the right to explain if you agree or disagree with this proposed motion and why. Please see Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Evidence#Contemplated motion to dismiss. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 08:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did to International reactions to the Gaza flotilla clash, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Lihaas (talk) 10:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What personal analysis did I add? I am not accustomed to doing that sort of thing. --Redaktor (talk) 10:38, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

Your two recents edits on Gaza flotilla raid were heavily POV and have been reverted in accordance with the consensus on the talk page. Please make sure that you are following the WP:1RR restriction on the article. --386-DX (talk) 15:39, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Despite the warning and the undoing of your reverts in diff 367194865, which were made without any discussion or agreement on the talk page, you made another one in less than 24 hours in diff 367195710, again containing numerous reverts and POV insertions. I'm therefore reporting you in the ANI board. --386-DX (talk) 13:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This edit is really unacceptable. Please don't do stuff like this. If you're unsure what's neutral and what's point-of-view, ask on the talk page.

Cheers, TFOWRidle vapourings 15:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1RR violation at Gaza flotilla raid

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In a post at ANI an editor has noticed you violating the 1RR restriction at Gaza flotilla raid. If you will apologize for this slip-up there may still be time for you to avoid sanctions. Due to the nature of 1RR restrictions they need to be mechanically enforced, unless the person violating will admit their mistake and promise not to repeat it. EdJohnston (talk) 14:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It would nice to be told exactly what I am supposed to have reverted. All I did was make what seemed to be a sensible edit. --Redaktor (talk) 23:09, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:REVERT, "reverting may also refer to any action that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part". Whether you consider your change sensible or not, you can't make improvements that undo other people's changes more than once a day on this article. Most changes that don't add entirely new material turn out to be reverts. Small changes that don't alter meaning are usually exempt. EdJohnston (talk) 04:48, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the explanation. On checking, I can see only one edit where I deleted anything (and even that one followed a discussion on the talk page). --Redaktor (talk) 04:58, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Mosheh Twersky, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mosheh Twersky. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 14:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Template talk:Housing associations in London

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You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Housing associations in London. Fayenatic (talk) 19:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}}) - Fayenatic (talk) 19:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gilad Shalit

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Re this diff: [[2]]- exactly so, all we can do is follow the sources. Thanks. Springnuts (talk) 17:21, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox rebbe

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Template:Infobox rebbe needs to be fixed. “Issue1” should be: children from 1st wife; “Issue2” should be: children from 2nd wife, and so on. Perhaps you could help. (I tried to fix it myself but my revision was undone). -- -- -- 20:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I could fix the change, but is there general agreement that the change is needed? --Redaktor (talk) 14:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the need is self-understood. What does “Issue1” supposed to mean? -- -- -- 23:23, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The word "issue" means "children". The only thing that is self-evident is that users have been happy with the word issue for three years and it has caused them no problems. Does it really matter that much? --Redaktor (talk) 06:54, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It seemed obvious to me that this is a mistake because I have not known that this is a legitimate definition for the word "issue". Wouldn't it be better to use a word which is more easily understood? The fact that no one has complained to you about this until now does not necessarily mean that everyone was "happy with the word issue for three years and it has caused them no problems". Perhaps it has caused other users problems in the past (just like it caused me), but: either they didn't know how to fix it and didn't know to whom to turn to, or they just didn't bother. After all, most people have more important issues (pun intended) to worry about. -- -- -- 22:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the change. -- -- -- 00:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Upload question

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Hi! I was just wondering where you obtained File:UOHC.jpg from? I can't seem to find any web presence for these guys at all... Thanks! ╟─TreasuryTagsecretariat─╢ 15:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember, but it is available on documents published by the UOHC. --Redaktor (talk) 09:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do you happen to know what sort of documents they publish and/or one could get hold of any? Thanks, ╟─TreasuryTagCounsellor of State─╢ 20:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Their main publication is the annual "Hakohol". They also publish a diary and wall luach before Rosh Hashono, and numerous public announcements in shuls and in the Jewish press. --Redaktor (talk) 23:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hasidic dynasty article names

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See Hasidic dynasty article names. Chesdovi (talk) 09:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dynasty or group, that is the question...

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You should take a look at the amazingly long discussion over at Talk:Breslov (Hasidic dynasty)! Chesdovi (talk) 13:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks --Redaktor (talk) 10:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

חַג חֲנֻכָּה שָׂמֵחַ

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הַנֵּרוֹת הַלָּלוּ קֹדֶשׁ הֵם

Hi Redaktor! Hoping you and yours are spiritually warmed by the holy lights of
חֲנֻכָּה

Chesdovi 2010

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Galician rabbis

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Category:Galician rabbis, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you.. IZAK (talk) 17:40, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong interwiki order

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There has been a bug in the software see. But I presume the issue has been fixed because as from yesterday my bot has stopped making these errors after my daily update. - Foxie001 (talk) 22:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. --Redaktor (talk) 16:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

kind letter of request of translation for Mérida, Venezuela and Feria del Sol (Mérida) in Hebrew and Yiddish

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Dear and Esteemed Colleague,

I write you from Calabria and with the Heart from Venezuela, because I have seen that you are practical in translations from English to Hebrew and the Yiddish one. I wondered me if one collaboration of yours would be possible, as I has already had her in passed by you to translate in these two languages the Article that I have signalled you. The Primo Riguarda my City of Adoption or rather Mérida, have found here good and kind people thanks also to a known social-network. In that times I suffered an illness that it strikes us young people: the anorexia, and here in My Country, I was abandoned from everybody, even from who believed friend and relative... only from Mérida, also from the Jewish community I received help with messagings of Peace, Courage and Hope. For this reason I have decided thanks to the help of other end users from the gold heart to make to know this angle of heaven in earth, where the people are cordial and also gives the heart if there is need.

As it regards the Feria del Sol, there it has also his because some Queens, among which the winner of 2008, now my great friend of the heart from 2009, thought me and they was with me during that long months of my hospitalization, also some organizers of the Legal holiday were worried for me and with me.

The most beautiful Gift that I have received has been the Hope thanks also to the Gift of an Angel that she lives to Mérida, and that it studies in the University of the Andes, the Gift was Our Lady of Coromoto. There Patrona of the Venezuela..da set out the tract toward the Recovery... happened after a few days by the arrival.

However this I ask you, if a lot kindly you would offer yourself to translate in Jewish and Yiddish Mérida and Your Great Bank holiday.... naturally when you have some available time.

Then as soon as it advances yourself some time if you could translate in Hebrew the Our Lady of Coromoto.

Said this hoping not to have annoyed you with this history, I wish you a good beginning week with the wish of one certain answer of yours, thanks for the help that you will give me and that God Blesses you

P.S. Sorry my bad english--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 10:47, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you added Avrohom Eliezer Liber Rosenbaum (23:55, 13 December 2007). Would you know whose son he is?

-- -- -- 21:19, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I guess he is a son of Rabbi Yitzchak Isaac Rosenbaum of Strozhnitz --Redaktor (talk) 12:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Baal Shem Tov family tree for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Baal Shem Tov family tree is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baal Shem Tov family tree until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Sitush (talk) 16:29, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shotz/Shatz

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I've noticed that many times throughout the site, you've changed Shotz to Shatz (examples: Suceava, Shotz (Hasidic dynasty)). Can I know why? Thanks. Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The name of the town is שאַץ Shatz. It is a quirk of Eastern -Galitsyaner Yiddish, especially in Bukovina, to pronounce the אַ sound as (British) "o".

--Redaktor (talk) 22:30, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me - but how do you know? In the case of a word or a town with a known alternate pronunciation, you can say that a perticular spelling is a local variant. However, I have found no evidence of any original source refering to Shotz as anything but Shotz. The town's name has always been spelled שאָץ, and was pronounced that way. My grandmother still speaks the dialect she was raised with - her parents were both Shotzers - and she pronounces no other word with an "o" instead of an "a". By the way, I speak, essentially, in the Eastern-Galician dialect, and the a->o shift you describe does not exist; it is considered "Russian" (central Ukrainian) or "Romanian" (not Bukovina, though, I think).

Examples of reliable sources referring to the town as Shotz include JewishGen, [shotzer.org] (Sorry for writing incoherently - it's a little late here.) Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 00:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would be grateful to see any original sources; I have been unable find anything pre-war. I agree that the word is pronounced Shotz—that is how the locals pronounce the Yiddish pasekh e.g. האַנט ont. Thanks for your input. --Redaktor (talk) 07:18, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, the traditional pronunciation of the name is alive in non-Romanian dialects. In Belz (Galician/Israeli), Bobov (Galician/Hungarian) and Satmar (Hungarian/Polish) they all say "Shotz". Incidentally, in the "ont" dialects, the "o" has a distinct sound, unlike the "o" in Shotz (think of Skver "Tote").
The spelling "Shatz" seems to have been invented by Rabbi Meir Horowitz of Shotz-Shendishov (of the Shatzer Matzos) - but his family also pronounces it "Shotz". I think they spelled it with an "a" by false analogy to words like "torah"/"toiroh". Similarly, "Tosh" is often spelled (by the Toshers themselves) as Tash, while it is quite clear (from the Yiddish spelling טאהש) that it was always pronounced with an "o".
In the manuscript of Rebbe Meir of Shotz (printed in Meorei Galitsya vol. 6, under his entry) he spells Shotz several times: שאָטץ - and he was from Galicia.
In any case, why assume that the original was with an "a" without evidence? Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 09:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've found the appropriate reference and reverted. See note at Suceava. Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 20:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Mir Yeshiva

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Please see what I have done at Template:Mir Yeshiva as per your suggestion at Template talk:Mir Yeshiva. However, some of the biographies are somewhat vague as to under which location/locations they should be placed. Your input would be appreciated. Nerguy (talk) 17:25, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks—that is a definite improvement. Will see if I can add anything useful. --Redaktor (talk) 09:22, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

א גוטען ר' רעדעקטור

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A guten Reb Yeid. Asking for your valued opinion on whether to rename Category "Mishnah rabbis" to "Tannaim". Please comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Rabbis categories for renaming. Much obliged, as always. Chesdovi (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wright Challenge map

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Do add yourself here Where are you?...approximately - "esperanto" has quite a few articles. Well done. We now have 45 editors and some recent additions in French and Estonian. I am hoping to present this work at Wikimania so your translation is particularly valued Victuallers (talk) 18:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeshaya Labin

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Yeshaya Labin at Afd? Chesdovi (talk) 17:00, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see much to commend the article. --Redaktor (talk) 07:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:UOHC.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:UOHC.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:54, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Chesdovi (talk) 10:40, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regards and kind letter of request of translation in Yiddish for en:University of the Andes (Venezuela) thanks as always of true heart, and request of future collaboration :)

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Dear Brother

I write you to know how you are and to wish you a Good Week, that radiant and bright. over this I would want to ask you if kindly you could translate in Yiddish and Hebrew, when obviously you have time, the Article regarding the Know University of the Andes of Mérida, there where one day I will go to visit my friends met on the known socialnetwork, and that they wait with anxiety my arrival, and perhaps it also escapes us some permanence of mine as student when I will live in Venezuela. says this if you have of need with some translation in the languages that I know por qualquiera cosa estoy a la orden!... you ask and I will make of my better..un I embrace bright and solar.--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 16:24, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

if you want i translate in spanish and italian this article: Yitzhak Aharon Korff, as well as in sicilian--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 16:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Redaktor (talk) 10:57, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
thank from tomorrow i think to start the article, max 1 week, and also i call my friend Marrovi to translate into spanish. have a good weekend. Shalom!--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 17:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


IMMANUEL BEIT YAAKOV

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Thank you Becky613 (talk) 07:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Immanuel Beit Yaakov

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Dear Redaktor

I noticed your interest in the Immanuel Beit Yaakov page.

Can you write in Hebrew? Would you be interested in helping add information to the Hebrew Immanuel and Immanuel Beit Yaakov pages? See under history and discussion for attempts made that were swiftly deleted.

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Yekusiel Yehuda Teitelbaum (II)

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There has been a strange image dipicting Yekusiel Yehuda Teitelbaum (II) since its creation in 2005?! Incredible that this was left undetected all this time. I have now corrected it. Chesdovi (talk) 10:43, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shulem Moshkovitz

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Hello! This might be an odd request considering how dated... But I have been looking into what can be done to improve articles on the lesser known chasidic rebbes (lesser known in the grand scheme of rebbes...). Anyways I saw that 5 years ago you expanded the article on Shulem Moshkovitz but didn't include any sources(at least that is how it appears). Is it possible for you to help include sources if you can recall/still have the information available? Coffeegirlyme (talk)· 22:43, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have added two refs. --Redaktor (talk) 14:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Feedback, please: Ropshitz (Hasidic dynasty)

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Discussion at Talk:Skver (Hasidic dynasty)#Family tree

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