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CHERRY GHOST PAGE EDIT:

Hi there. Forgive me if this is incorrect but I believe you deleted the 'Trivia' section on the CG page and I was wondering why you did that? I spent a good deal of time researching CG interviews to create the section, provided article/interview links to support each fact and even checked certain details with Mr CG himself Simon. Stevexyg (talk) 23:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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AfD nomination of Virgin Megastores store locations

An article that you have been involved in editing, Virgin Megastores store locations, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Virgin Megastores store locations. Thank you. -- John (Daytona2 · talk) 13:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mistress (song)

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All You Need Is Nothing

You removed the refimprove tag on this article without adding any sources. I do not feel that a brief Billboard mention (and the artist's own press release) is sufficient sourcing. I have restored the tag. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flag icons

Please don't add flag icons to the release dates for albums. The manual of style discourages the use of flag icons for this kind of date; they are purely decorative and add no information that the name of the country does not provide. Thanks, Gwernol 10:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Our Shadows Will Remain

Q: How many legs would a horse have if you called its tail a leg?
A: Four. Changing what you call something doesn't change what it is.

Similarly, the trivia section in Our Shadows Will Remain is a trivia section, no matter what you might call it. Heck, it's a trivia section if you remove the section's name.

That the guy who mixed one of the tracks recorded an album four years ago with Arthur, the mixer's pen name and the album and song title constitute a piece of ephemeral trivia, distantly connected to the current topic. Yet you've made it a bullet point under "Singles", because you don't want it labeled trivia or removed.

Let's suppose we're writing about a legislative bill, sponsered by Rep. Smith, Sen. Jones votes for the bill. Rep. Smith clerked for Sen. Jones as a judge several years earlier. Would that fact merit mention in an article on the bill?

Maybe we're writing about Movie X, directed by Smith, written by Johnson, Anderson, Jones and Williams. Four years earlier, Anderson directed a movie that Smith had a role in. Do we put that in an article about Movie X?

All would be obscure, trivial references. Just like the one at issue here.

Mdsummermsw (talk) 15:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox updates

Hi, I appreciate the updates/fixes you are doing to the infoboxes of various articles. However, could you please follow the guidelines for each of the particular infoboxes? For example, the earliest known release date known is the only one that should be entered for {{Infobox Album}} or {{Infobox Single}}. Also you should use a pipe link for the records labels to remove the word "Records" where necessary. Also you should be aware that the wikilinking of dates is now deprecated as per MOS:SYL. Thanks, --JD554 (talk) 08:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletions of several articles related to artist Magnet

Hello. I have proposed deletion for the following articles: Lay Lady Lay (Magnet cover), On Your Side Companion EP, Minus EP, Hold On (Magnet song), Last Day of Summer, The Day We Left Town EP, Chasing Dreams EP, Where Happiness Lives EP, Fall at Your Feet (Magnet_song), Lonely No More EP . None of the above had any assertion of notability. Especially with no reviews or third-party sources, I believe that simply listing these albums and songs on the artist page is sufficient, rather than them having their own articles. Feel free to contest the proposed deletions by removing them, as anyone can do so. Thanks, Raven1977 (talk) 22:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flowers & Football Tops

Hi, I noticed you created the above article and stated it's to be the Glasvegas's next single. Do you have a citation for that? Without one the article is likely to get deleted per WP:NSONGS. Cheers, --JD554 (talk) 09:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

Please do not create malicious redirects. They are disruptive and are considered vandalism, and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Cheers,Jamiebijania (talk) 08:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Eulogies (album)

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Speedy deletion of Here Anonymous

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AfD nomination of Here Anonymous

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AfD nomination of Eulogies (album)

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File copyright problem with File:Kraig and Joseph.jpg

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Serena-Maneesh

Thanks for the cleanup and changes to the Serena-Maneesh pages, I really appreciate it. Cottser (talk) 13:02, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Joseph Arthur

It's been almost a month since this article was reviewed. I'll allot one more week for changes before making a final decision.--Atlantictire (talk) 10:37, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of 3 EP Collection

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Nomination of ITunes Festival: Live in London (EP) for deletion

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 01:49, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Image for article

You may wish to add http://www.amazon.com/Nights-LP-12-songs-Kozelek-Versions/dp/B004RP96KO Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:15, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Three More Days

The article Three More Days has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Article does not meet
Wikipedia guideline for the notability of music topics

This page documents an English Wikipedia notability guideline.

Editors should generally follow it, though exceptions may apply. Substantive edits to this page should reflect consensus. When in doubt, discuss first on this guideline's talk page.

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This page in a nutshell: This page lists the specific criteria for whether musicians, ensembles, composers, lyricists, albums, singles, and songs are notable. These criteria inform the decision whether an article should be dedicated to these people or works.

This page provides a guideline for editors in applying the concept of notability to topics related to music, including artists, bands, albums, and songs. Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion. An article on an artist or band that does not indicate that the subject of the article is important or significant can be speedily deleted under criterion A7. A mere claim of significance, even if contested, may avoid speedy deletion under A7, requiring a full proposed deletion or articles for deletion process to determine if the article should be included in Wikipedia.

Many who spend significant time improving Wikipedia's musical coverage feel that notability is required for a musical topic (such as a band or musical theatre group) to deserve an encyclopedia article. Please note that the failure to meet any of these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted; conversely, meeting any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. Rather, these are rules of thumb used by some editors when deciding whether or not to keep an article that is listed at articles for deletion.

To meet Wikipedia's standards for verifiability and notability, the article in question must actually document that the criterion is true. It is not enough to make unsourced or poorly sourced claims in the article, or to assert a band's importance on a talk page or AfD page – the article itself must document notability through the use of reliable sources, and no criterion listed in this page confers an exemption from having to reliably source the article just because passage of the criterion has been claimed.

See also WP:NBIO for notability guidelines for biography articles in general.

Criteria for musicians and ensembles

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Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.

Note that regardless of what notability criterion is being claimed, the claim must be properly verified by reliable sources independent of the subject's own self-published promotional materials. It is extremely common for aspiring musicians who want a Wikipedia article for the publicity to make inflated or false notability claims, such as charting hits that did not really chart (or which charted only on a non-notable WP:BADCHART) or nominations for awards that are not prominent enough to pass criterion number 8 (below). Thus, notability is not determined by what the article says, it is determined by how well the article does or does not support the things it says by referencing them to independent verification in reliable sources.

Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.^{[note 1]}
- This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries^{[note 2]} except for the following:
  - Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.^{[note 3]}
  - Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.
Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.^{[note 4]}
Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).
Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles.^{[note 5]} This should be adapted appropriately for musical genre; for example, having performed two lead roles at major opera houses. Note that this criterion needs to be interpreted with caution, as there have been instances where this criterion was cited in a circular manner to create a self-fulfilling notability loop (e.g., musicians who were "notable" only for having been in two bands, of which one or both were "notable" only because those musicians had been in them.)
Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. Note that this requires the person or band to have been the direct recipient of a nomination in their own name, and is not passed by playing as a session musician on an album whose award citation was not specifically for that person's own contributions.
Has won first, second, or third place in a major music competition.
Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, such as a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications).
Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.

Individual members, reality television performers

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Members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability.
Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated that they are independently notable.

Criteria for composers and lyricists

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WP:COMPOSER

Composers, songwriters, librettists or lyricists, may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria:

Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition.
Has written musical theatre of some sort (e.g., musicals, operas) that was performed in a notable theatre that had a reasonable run, as such things are judged in their particular situation, context, and time.
Has had a work used as the basis for a later composition by a songwriter, composer, or lyricist who meets the above criteria.
Has written a composition that has won (or in some cases been given a second or other place) in a major music competition not established expressly for newcomers.
Has been listed as a major influence or teacher of a composer, songwriter, or lyricist that meets the above criteria.
Appears at reasonable length in standard reference books on their genre of music.

Where possible, composers or lyricists with insufficient verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article should be merged into the article about their work. When a composer or lyricist is known for multiple works, such a merger may not be possible.

Others

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WP:NMUSICOTHER

Composers and performers outside mass media traditions may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria:

Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable music sub-culture.
Has composed a number of notable melodies, tunes, or standards used in a notable music genre.
Is cited in reliable sources as being influential in style, technique, repertory, or teaching for a particular music genre.
Is cited by reliable sources as having established a tradition or school in a particular music genre.
Has been listed as a significant musical influence on musicians or composers who meet the above criteria.

Recordings

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All articles on albums or other recordings should meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.

Specific to recordings, a recording may be notable if it meets at least one of these criteria:

The recording has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it.
- This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries^{[note 2]} except for the following:
  - Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about the recording, and all advertising that mentions the recording, including manufacturers' advertising.
  - Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.
The recording has appeared on any country's national music chart.
The recording has been certified gold or higher in at least one country.
The recording has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.
The recording was performed in a medium that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article).
The recording was in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
The recording has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.

Notability aside, a standalone article is only appropriate when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged into the artist's article or discography.

Albums

An album requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence. That an album is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article. Conversely, an album does not need to be by a notable artist or ensemble to merit a standalone article if it meets the general notability guideline. Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting.

Singles

A single requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence. That a single is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article. Even if otherwise notable, material about a single may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting.

Unreleased material

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WP:UNRELEASED

Unreleased material (including demos, mixtapes, bootlegs, promo-only recordings, and related items) is only notable if it has significant independent coverage in reliable sources.

A currently unreleased album with an unconfirmed future release date may qualify for an article if there is sufficient verifiable and properly referenced information about it. For example, Guns N' Roses' 2008 album Chinese Democracy had an article as early as 2004 because it was already receiving a very large volume of reliable coverage about its development. That pre-existing article thus only needed minor modifications when the album was finally released.

A cancelled album like Street King Immortal by 50 Cent can qualify for an article due to reliable media coverage of its development as well as its cancellation by the record label. Other instances in which an artist merely began working on a new album that was cancelled, left incomplete, or transformed into a different project – before it had a confirmed release date, title, and track listing as confirmed by reliable sources – would not qualify for an album article and can be described in the musician's biography.

Future material

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An article about a near-future but not yet released album qualifies for inclusion if it has been covered by multiple non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it.

For high-profile artists, upcoming works may be notable months in advance, and the date at which an article for that album becomes viable is not directly related to its eventual release date.

A future album whose article consists solely of blog or fan forum speculation about possible titles, or songs that might be on the album, is a violation of Wikipedia's crystal ball policy. The fact that a new album is in development can be described at the musician's article in the meantime.

Songs

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Songs and singles are probably notable if they have been the subject^[1] of multiple,^[2] non-trivial^[3] published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries or reviews. This excludes media reprints of press releases, or other publications where the artist, its record label, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the work.^[4] Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created.

Notability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album.

A standalone article about a song should satisfy the above criteria. Any of the following factors suggest that a song or single may be notable enough that a search for coverage in reliable independent sources will be successful.

Has been ranked on national or significant music or sales charts. (Note again that this indicates only that a song may be notable, not that it is notable.)
Has won one or more significant awards or honors, such as a Grammy, Latin Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.
Has been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands, or groups.

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WP:NCOVER

Notable covers are eligible for standalone articles, provided that the article on the cover can be reasonably detailed based on facts independent of the original.

Note 1: Songs that do not rise to notability for an independent article should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song.
Note 2: Sources should always be added for any lore, history or passed-on secondary content. Wikiversity and Wikibooks have different policies and may be more appropriate venues for this type of content.

Concert tours

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Concert tours are probably notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Such coverage might show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms. Sources that merely establish that a tour happened are not sufficient to demonstrate notability. Tours that cannot be sufficiently referenced in secondary sources should be covered in a section on the artist's page rather than creating a dedicated article. A tour that meets notability standards does not make all tours associated with that artist notable. Michael Jackson's 1988 Bad is an example of a notable concert tour.

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A good online source for recordings is the AllMusic search engine. To find ownership information on song texts copyrighted in the US, the ASCAP ACE Title Search and BMI Repertoire Search utilities are invaluable. When looking in depth, a search on Google books or Internet Archive items may turn something up. For material that has captured the attention of academics, a search on Google scholar or Internet Archive scholar may work.

An experienced editor also provides a guide on ensuring that articles meet criteria.

If the subject is not notable

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Wikipedia should not have a separate article on a person, band, or musical work that does not meet the criteria of either this guideline or the general notability guideline, or any subject, despite meeting the rules of thumb described above, for which editors ultimately cannot locate independent sources that provide in-depth information about the subject. Wikipedia's goals include neither tiny articles that can never be expanded, nor articles based primarily on what the subjects say about themselves.

Information about such subjects may be included in other ways in Wikipedia, provided that certain conditions are met. Material about a musician, group, or work that does not qualify for a separate, stand-alone article can be preserved by adding it into relevant articles if it:

has the appropriate level of detail and significance for that article;
avoids self-promotion;
includes information that can be verified through independent sources.

For example, material about individual members of a musical group is normally merged into larger articles about the group. Songs may be described in a discography or one of the many lists of songs. Appropriate redirects from the subject's name and entries in disambiguation pages can be created to help readers find such information.

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^ Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The published works must be someone else writing about the musician, ensemble, composer, or lyricist, or their works. (See the self-published sources policy for details about the reliability of such sources, and the conflict of interest guideline for treatment of promotional, vanity material.) The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the musician, ensemble, composer, or lyricist notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. The rationale for this is easy to see – someone simply talking about themselves via channels such as their own personal blog, own website, own book publisher, own social networking site, or own music networking site does not automatically mean they have sufficient attention in the world at large to be notable. If that was so then everyone could have an article. Wikipedia is not a directory.
^ ^a ^b What constitutes a "published work" is deliberately broad.
^ For example, endorsement deal publicity (including sell sheets, promo posters, fliers, print advertising, and links to an official company website) that lists the artist as an endorser or contains an "endorsement interview" with the artist.
^ This criterion has been disputed in the past and has been reworded numerous times as a result. Past significant discussions: 2006, 2008.
^ Generally speaking, in a small ensemble, all people are reasonably-prominent, but, for example, being members of the chorus (not prominent) in two Broadway musicals (dozens of people involved) usually wouldn't be enough.

NSONG notes

^ The "subject" of a work means non-trivial treatment and excludes mere mention of the song/single, its musician/band or of its publication, price listings and other non-substantive detail treatment.
^ The number of reliable sources necessary to establish notability is different for songs from different eras. Reliable sources available (especially online) increases as one approaches the present day.
^ "Non-trivial" excludes personal websites, blogs, bulletin boards, Usenet posts, wikis and other media that are not themselves reliable. Be careful to check that the musician, record label, agent, vendor. etc. of a particular song/single are in no way affiliated with any third party source.
^ Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The published works must be someone else writing about the song/single. The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or of its artist, record label, vendor or agent) have actually considered the song/single notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it.

standards. Non-notable, non-single song released on one album.

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Truelove's Gutter

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Just a quick note to say that I've amended Truelove's Gutter. The Reference number 2 kept coming up with an error for the Eric Youle copyright text. So I have put the statement (in its entirety) into a QUOTE function in the citation which has cleared the error and stopped it appearing as red text.

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For adding this info REM. I don't know if you've ever seen the film but I did waaay back in 1968. It is a tour de force of filmmaking so I find this news to be very exciting. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 21:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I would also like to thank you for expanding the article. No Other is easily one of my favorites of all time. I grieve in stereo (talk) 03:14, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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[selfpromo-1] Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The published works must be someone else writing about the musician, ensemble, composer, or lyricist, or their works. (See the self-published sources policy for details about the reliability of such sources, and the conflict of interest guideline for treatment of promotional, vanity material.) The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the musician, ensemble, composer, or lyricist notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. The rationale for this is easy to see – someone simply talking about themselves via channels such as their own personal blog, own website, own book publisher, own social networking site, or own music networking site does not automatically mean they have sufficient attention in the world at large to be notable. If that was so then everyone could have an article. Wikipedia is not a directory.

[published-2] What constitutes a "published work" is deliberately broad.

[3] For example, endorsement deal publicity (including sell sheets, promo posters, fliers, print advertising, and links to an official company website) that lists the artist as an endorser or contains an "endorsement interview" with the artist.

[disputed-4] This criterion has been disputed in the past and has been reworded numerous times as a result. Past significant discussions: 2006, 2008.

[5] Generally speaking, in a small ensemble, all people are reasonably-prominent, but, for example, being members of the chorus (not prominent) in two Broadway musicals (dozens of people involved) usually wouldn't be enough.

[subject-6] The "subject" of a work means non-trivial treatment and excludes mere mention of the song/single, its musician/band or of its publication, price listings and other non-substantive detail treatment.

[multiple-7] The number of reliable sources necessary to establish notability is different for songs from different eras. Reliable sources available (especially online) increases as one approaches the present day.

[nontrivial-8] "Non-trivial" excludes personal websites, blogs, bulletin boards, Usenet posts, wikis and other media that are not themselves reliable. Be careful to check that the musician, record label, agent, vendor. etc. of a particular song/single are in no way affiliated with any third party source.

[9] Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The published works must be someone else writing about the song/single. The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or of its artist, record label, vendor or agent) have actually considered the song/single notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it.

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