User talk:Pmaas/Archive 1

Archive 1

Equus

Hi, Have seen your changes on the horse page and they it is great that you have added a reference for this. What is the significant text in the reference which makes these changes clear? Are they definitive changes? If so then this wikipedia presents different information from the rest of the internet and so I think the article also needs so explanatory text or the changes are just likely to get reverted by someone. Cheers, Malcolm Morley 21:25, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Previous name of these animals (tarpan, wild horse & Donkey/Wild Ass) was mainly based on the list of mammals published by Wilson and Reeder in 1993. Their list was based on the code of the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature (www.iczn.org). Thus the oldest name was used: Equus caballus for the horse and Equus asinus for the Donkey/Ass. These names were first given to the domesticated forms and this had created confusion. However, in 2003 to end the confusion of the names, the Commission ruled that the name for each of the wild species listed in their publication (see reference) is not invalid by virtue of being predated by a name based on a domestic form.

The following names are hereby placed on the Official List of Specific Names in Zoology: (a) africanus Heuglin & Fitzinger, 1866, as published in the binomen Equus africanus (North African wild ass) (Mammalia); (b) ferus Boddaert, 1785, as published in the binomen Equus ferus (Russian wild horse, tarpan) (Mammalia); (c) ...etc....

Website of International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature: http://www.iczn.org The publication (Opinion 2027) can be ordered there for free.

Main reference: International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature. 2003. Opinion 2027 (Case 3010). Usage of 17 specific names based on wild species which are pre-dated by or contemporary with those based on domestic animals (Lepidoptera, Osteichthyes, Mammalia): conserved. Bull.Zool.Nomencl., 60:81-84. Pmaas 21:54, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

FANTASTIC JOB! Malcolm Morley 22:01, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

VWN en WCN

Beste Pmaas,

Al enige tijd is er een Nederlandstalig chapter in oprichting, te vinden op http://nl.wikimedia.org . Dit wordt de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland (VWN). Je kunt je interesse om lid te worden van deze vereniging hier aangeven.

Deze vereniging gaat eind augustus/begin september een Wikimedia Conferentie in Nederland (WCN) houden, volgend op Wikimania in Boston, gedeeltelijk erop inspelend middels een aantal discussiegroepen. Om iets dergelijks te organiseren is imput erg gewenst. Dus als je wilt meehelpen, of als je interesse hebt om bij een dergelijk evenement aanwezig te zijn, geef dat dan aan op nl.wikimedia. Ik hoop daar snel je imput tegemoet te zien! Met vriendelijke groet, effeietsanders 18:35, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Lizards?

I was reading your article on the La Palma Giant Lizard, and you left a sentence unfinished. Can you fix that, please? DS 13:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank for telling. I've finished the sentence now. Pmaas 14:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

macedonische leeuwen

ten eerste mr.maas, er was geen griekenland in die tijd, ten tweede macedonie was een eigen land, met eigen grenzen. en er is geen enkele bron die spreekt of zich uitbeeld over griekenland ivm leeuwen. Groeten uit Macedonia --Makedonia 22:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

In die tijd was er inderdaad geen Griekenland, maar nu wel. Om het duidelijker te maken heb ik het veranderd in hedendaags Griekenland (present-day Greece). Bronnen over leeuwen in hedendaags Griekenland zijn er wel, kijk maar eens op http://www.asiatic-lion.org/ om er één te noemen. Pmaas 17:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Two sources: (1) Guggisberg, C.A.W. 1961. Simba: The life of the Lion. Howard Timmins, Cape Town. (2) Nowell, K. and Jackson, P. (compilers and editors) (1996). Wild Cats. Status Survey and Conservation Action Plan. IUCN/SSC Cat Specialist Group. IUCN, Gland, Switzerland. Pmaas 17:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Liger

I posted a reply on the talk page. - 23:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Help me how to create Portal

Dear friend,

I cannot create portals. When I make a portal template and try to create a portal based on those portal templates, {{}} is recognized as template not portal :( --User:Ibrahimjon 08:07, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Friend, first I would say: create an account/register/sign in (before creating a portal)! That way users can discuss thing with you. Now nobody can reach you. Check first if the portal is needed and if it does not exist already. For more information on portals: Wikipedia:Portal and Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions. Peter Maas 08:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Oops, sorry for being anonymos, while working with my students using another comp, I found out that I am kicked off due to my session which was expired and didn't know about that. Sorry. So I wish to make portals in another wiki project but I fail :( --Ibrahimjon 08:29, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. Maybe I can help! Where is the portal located? Which topic? For example, I'm currently working at Portal:Extinction. Peter Maas 08:33, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Great! Please visit Tajik Wiki Ibrahimjon

I've posted the following on your Talk page on the Tajik Wikipedia: Hi Ibrahim! At the English Wikipedia it is quite easy to create portals by following the instructions at en:Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions. Are you sure the Tajik Wikipedia has a Portal feature. The concept of a portal originated in the Polish and German Wikipedias. In early 2005, the portal concept was imported to the English Wikipedia and the first Wikiportals were established. Later that year, a special namespace (Portal:) was created for portals. It is possible that this has not been done for the Tajik Wikipedia. Sadly, I cannot help you with that. Peter Maas 08:55, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for taking time to write. Can we talk via Yahoo Messenger? --Ibrahimjon 10:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

My Yahoo ID is pmaas81. Peter Maas 10:11, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Unio crassus

Sorry, Pmaas, you are quite right. It came about because of the terminology of the Category - extinct animals only means one thing to me, globally. :-) GrahamBould 16:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Trinil tiger

Hello Peter, Now we have the Trinil-tiger in the german wikipedia, too. I never heard about this subspecies before. There are only two internet-sites, where I found something. Do you know good sources, who say that this is a valid subspecies?--131.188.170.86 20:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC) Oh, I see I am not signed in. I´m User:Altaileopard

I think it is valid, a prehistoric tiger subspecies. Some well known and reliable institutions name it. The information I posted here comes from the National Museum of Natural History (Naturalis) in Leiden, the Netherlands. This museum has the fossils in its collection, the famous Dubois collection: which includes the a skull of Java Man, the syntype of Homo erectus. It is mentioned at the following site: http://www.naturalis.nl/300pearls/. Just go there to "Extinct Animals" and than to the article "Javan Tiger - Ruthlessly hunted down". That is the reference I used. The subspecies is also mentioned in book "Frontiers of Fear Tigers and People in the Malay World, 1600–1950 by Peter Boomgaard (Yale University Press) online pdf version. It is also mentioned on several other sites, but all contain the same short information. I also know that the article "Research on Early Man in Burma, with Supplementary Reports upon the Pleistocene Vertebrates and Mollusks of the Region, and Pleistocene Geology and Early Man in Java Hellmut de Terra, Hallam L. Movius, Jr., Edwin H. Colbert, J. Bequaert Transactions of the American Philosophical Society, New Ser., Vol. 32, No. 3 (1941 - 1943), pp. 263-464" mention a Felis trinilensis Dubois, probably the original name when it was named by Dubois. Sadly I don't have acces to the full version of the article. I haven't been able to find more yet on this Pleistocene tiger subspecies. Peter Maas 19:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I will soon visit the Naturalis museum again, maybe I find anything more there. When I do I will let you know. Peter Maas 20:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. I already knew this www.naturalis-page and I think it looks quite serios, but I am not shure if it is a proper Source for WIkipedia. (They have no literature). The book and the article, you mentoined are new to me. Now I would agree, that P. t. trinilensis really seems to be a valid subspecies, but I will also try to find some more infos. Thanks a lot.--Altaileopard 15:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Extinction-stub

Hi - the extinction-stub template and category have been deleted as re-creations of stub types which were previously deleted after debate at WP:SFD. Please, if you wish to create stub types, discuss them first with the stub sorting WikiProject at WP:WSS/P. In the case of extinction, there are several different stub types relating to extinct species - a stub type simply for extinction is unnecessary for that reason and cuts through the stub hierarchy. Grutness...wha? 05:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Grutness, thanks for telling me. Wasn't aware that it had to be proposed and discussed first. Will do that first the next time. Extinction may indeed overlap stub types and therefor cutting through the stub hierarchy, like mammal stubs, birds stubs, etc., although they are of no to little use of the Wikiproject Extinction. The only related stub types that are of use are those for the fossil extinctions, like paleo stub and dinosaur stub. There are none for recent extinction, at least none that I could find. But as you wrote, it has been discussed and deleted before it will be useless to propose it again. We will keep on listing the extinction-related stubs manually at one of our WikiProject's pages. Only this will take a lot more work to maintain. Peter Maas\^talk 18:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

A friendly suggestion

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing.

Also, your post was more useful than a minor edit. Cheers. Xiner 19:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. I might forget that sometimes. Where did I forget to do that? Although usually I try to give a summary edit. Peter Maas\^talk 19:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Baiji

I was able to locate the archives of a site that I believe Menchi used to get information about the Baiji. See the talk page for details. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Peter Maas\^talk 18:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

List of extinct cetaceans

Thanks for starting this article. KP Botany 21:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Peter Maas\^talk 11:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Request to peer review Prospect Park Zoo

Hello Pmaas. I've submitted Prospect Park Zoo for peer review as a first step toward a good article rating. As a participant in Wikipedia:WikiProject Zoo, might you find time to look it over? I trust that you can offer pointers that could better support the Wikipedia:WikiProject Zoo project. I live close to the facility, can visit it, and do other field stuff. I will look for your comments here on your talk page and on the peer review page. Hope you can help! I am looking forward to your comments and thanks in advance! Gosgood 19:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Diergaarde Blijdorp

I noticed you tried adding an image to Diergaarde Blijdorp but it didn't work since the image is on nl:Afbeelding:Blijdorp entree.JPG not on en or commons. I have since copied to the commons commons:Image:Afbeelding:Blijdorp entree.JPG. I do not know how to mark nl:Afbeelding:Blijdorp entree.JPG as being available on commons since I cannot speak dutch. Would you please look into that? I left a note on nl:Overleg afbeelding:Blijdorp entree.JPG. Cburnett 17:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi! Meanwhile I've uploaded the image into Wikimedia Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Blijdorp_entree.jpg. I will add it to the Blijdorp page. Peter Maas\^talk 20:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

And just noticed that you have found it as well and thanks for placing it on the Diergaarde Blijdorp article. When I have more time I will expand that article with a lot of new info. Peter Maas\^talk 20:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:WikiProjectExtinction-Logo.png

Hello there. I noticed that you had uploaded this image a while ago: Image:WikiProjectExtinction-Logo.png. I see that you used Hoefler Text for the words, but I do not have that font face. I was wondering if you could make me an image with the same text, only instead of saying Extinction, it would say Olympics. I can add my logo later, I just want to have the text. Thank you for your time. Contact me if you have any questions. _└^Jared_┘^┌_talk^┐  20:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I will see what I can do (not today, because of a lack of time). And I will let you know. Peter Maas\^talk 17:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Done, you can find the images online at: PSD-file (for Photoshop), PNG-file and GIF-file. Peter Maas\^talk 18:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Grant's Zebra

Know who Grant is?--Ioshus^(talk) 00:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Sadly no idea! Take a look at: Grant. Peter Maas\^talk 09:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Mammals of the sowjet union

Hello Peter, On your page [1] you mention Mammals of the sowjet union as literature. Do you have this book or do you know were to get it?--Altaileopard 20:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the book myself, sadly enough. You can try to get it through a large library or university in your neighbourhood. The full citation is: "Heptner, V.H. and Sludskii, A.A. 1972. [Mammals of the Soviet Union. Vol III: Carnivores (Feloidea).] Vyssha Shkola, Moscow (in Russian). Engl. transl. edited by R.S. Hoffmann, Smithsonian Inst. and the Natl. Science Fndn., Washington DC, 1992." Peter Maas\^talk 11:15, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Perhaps I can get it via university.--Altaileopard 14:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello. Now I have the book. Another thing: Would you agree to delete European lion and make a Redirect to Asiatic lion out of it. this article seems to be completely unconfirmed.--Altaileopard 21:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I have no problem with it, because I also see it as an invalid subspecies. Although there might be resistance from others. As it had before. However, the information should not be deleted, but put in the Asian lion article. Peter Maas\^talk 09:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Dutch

You said u were full non-holland dutch. I am 1/2 dutch, my dutch ancesotors from Holland following the Civil War but before World War I. Is Dutch and easy language?

Well....for me is Dutch an easy language, but I have heard that it can be hard to learn for others. Mainly because it has some difficult grammar rules (some are even hard for Dutch speaking people too). But I think it is more easy for people who speak another Germanic language, like German, English, Danish, Swedish, etc. Do you still have some relatives who can speak Dutch? Peter Maas\^talk 19:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I think so but we have little contact with them.--69.234.176.81 05:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Jknight98

message

I'm sending this to all the wikiproject:mammals participants. There's a naming guideline up for discussion on the talk page, and the more people get involved the more valid any consensus drawn. Ironholds 19:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Awards

Thank you very much for the award. I'm very honoured. --Melly42 (talk) 04:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Horse

Hi! Evolution of the horse and some other articles (Equidae, Equus (genus), etc.) are getting some much needed attention. Care to join us? --Una Smith (talk) 05:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I have proposed disambiguating Wild horse, which now is a grab-bag of content about ''Equus ferus, feral horses, and the horse breed known as the Heck horse: see Talk:Wild horse. --Una Smith (talk) 08:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Pmaas. The whole organization/reorganization of the above articles and templates is now in total confusion as far as I can tell, but I for one am no taxonomist so am not sure the extent to which we have "needed improvements" (was it a good thing to be pulling out the Equus genus material from Equidae, for example?) and to what extent things are now more confusing and disorganized than ever. Two new templates related to taxonomy have also been created (see talk page of Template:Equine). Some of the above may indeed be an improvement, but the debate is spreading across numerous unrelated articles too. Note Tarpan and Equus ferus ferus as well as Wild horse. Montanabw^(talk) 21:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Montanabw, I agree it is indeed getting confusion. As I just also wrote on Talk:Wild_horse#Cleanup I'm not sure either how it could be improved. I've only a bachelor's degree in Animal Management (with a specialisation in Wildlife Management), so I'm not a taxonomist either. The whole subspecies matter is so confusing. Even the scientific papers are not on the same line. Some mention just one monotypic species or two different species, others two or three subspecies, and others even seven, some include the domesticated horse and other don't, etc. At the moment I'm doing research on this for my own website [2] for a major update on its page on the Tarpan, and I can say to you it gives me a headache. At the moment I don't have the time to do major work on my own website as well on Wikipedia. Maybe in the near future. Peter Maas\^talk 22:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Zoo

I would like to know if you are still an active participant in the WP:ZOO, If you are please confirm by way of responding on my talk page. I am just trying to get an idea of how many people are still engaged in the project as to better work out how to manage and address things that are listed in the project. Kind Regards ZooPro 14:02, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Sea Mink drawing

Hi, I'm the one that uploaded the file. I thought that "Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 Unported" would allow to upload it in the Wikipedia, since it is not a commercial site, the image has not been modified, and credit has been given. If that is not the case, my apologies. Diego bf109 (talk) 00:29, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Announcement

Hello! I'm The Arbiter, one of the coordinators for WikiProject Zoo. I am proud to announce the launch of a new portal: Portal:Zoos and Aquariums! ZooPro, ZooFari, and I worked hard to create a new portal for information on zoos, aquariums, and the associated projects and articles on Wikipedia. If you could head on over, take a look at our work, and maybe learn some more about zoos and Wikiproject Zoo, it would be great! Cheers and Happy Editing!

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