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Hi, it's lovely to meet you, Philippa! F.newnham (talk) 23:19, 5 August 2017 (UTC

Thanks and good to meet you too, Fiona! ¬¬¬¬

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Hi Philippa, thanks for helping me get started Allegria2017 (talk) 23:37, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Pamela Young article

Hi Pippipip

I've gone in and added a couple of wikilinks and did a minor copy edit to your Pamela Young article. Thanks again for your attendance today. I think we were all very productive! --Ambrosia10 (talk) 04:42, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good job!

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		Congratulations on making such a good start with Wikipedia. Keep it up! Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 11:05, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A page you started (Marie Darby) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Marie Darby, Pippipip!

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DYK nomination of Marie Darby

Hello! Your submission of Marie Darby at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:03, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 15:39, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 21:43, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Marie Darby

On 4 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marie Darby, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that marine biologist Marie Darby, the first New Zealand woman to visit the Antarctic mainland, sailed to the Ross Sea on a tourist boat that ran aground on its first trip? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marie Darby. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Marie Darby), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedian at Large grant proposal needs volunteers and endorsements

Hi there,

I'm applying for a reasonably large Wikimedia Foundation grant to support a year of Wikipedian in Residence postings at a wide (and growing) range of institutions throughout the country. The grant has just gone live: NZ Wikipedian at Large

Are you interested in helping with any residencies or events around the country – at the moment just in the four main centres? If so, you can add yourself using the Volunteer button and say what you'd be keen to do AND/OR If you think a "Wikipedian at Large" is a good idea, please do write a short endorsement, especially since you've previously participated in an event I've run. A vote of confidence from the Wikipedia community will make a big difference to the grant's success.

Many thanks! —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 00:59, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there from @Ambrosia10

Hi Pippipip, just thought I'd drop you a note to give you an easy link to find me. Just edit my talk page if you need anything. --Ambrosia10 (talk) 23:23, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your queries re Authority control template

Hi Pippipip

I've had a look at your new articles and they are GREAT! Yes the photo is in the perfect place. If you want to improve the articles you could add the template "Infobox Author" at the very top of your article. Press "edit" and go to the top of the article and place the cursor there. Then go to the "insert" dropdown, click it and then select "template". Then search for "Infobox Author" and select and press "add template". The system then lets you choose all the fields you want to add to the template. Select all those you have information for and add the information in as you go. If you do generate this infobox you should add the profile picture to it. Once all the information is added you can then press "insert" and then save your edits. An infobox will then be generated. See the Maurice Gee article as an example with an author infobox (although there isn't much info in it at the moment!).

As regards the authority control template, the process is similar. Go to the bottom of the article, after the references, press edit and place the cursor there. Then press "insert" and search for "Authority Control". Once it appears pick just the one that says "Authority control" from the top of the list. Once placed and saved in the article, the system will automatically attempt to get any authorities that are listed in the Wikidata item for that person and place them automatically in the template. Sometimes there are none and the template just sits there not appearing to generate anything until someone adds in the data needed to Wikidata. It is still good practice to add in the Authority control template though!

I've left the Mary-anne Scott article to be edited by you, but have added some identifiers so that when you do add the authority control template it should generate some information (assuming this works!). Let me know if it doesn't.Ambrosia10 (talk) 23:47, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

More on authority control

I've just realised you also asked about a "help" page. If you want to take it to the next level and learn how to link the data for these writers I suggest we meet up to discuss the wonderful world of Wikidata and how to edit it. I can give you a personal tutorial that will show you the ropes. Maybe one of Mike's at Wiki Meetups? I've also put together this list of training materials for Wikidata if you are interested --Ambrosia10 (talk) 01:34, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright infringement

I can see that you are a new editor, but you need to know that Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. You must not copy and paste text from sources you find on the web into articles as you did in the article Mary-anne Scott. The material you copied is subject to copyright, as is almost everything on the web, and when creating or expanding articles, you should completely rewrite the information from the source using your own words.

Click this to see a copy of the results produced by the "Earwig" copyvio tool before I tagged the page. Do not be fooled by the "31.5% Violation unlikely" figure, but look at the pink highlighted text below. Clicking on the "Compare" at the right end of each row informs you of the text similarities with each source, and in this instance, the first and third are significant. When you have rewritten those bits of the article, you can remove the close paraphrasing tag. Please ask if you need any help. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:00, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article is now acceptable and I have removed the tag. When writing an article, please read the sources carefully and then put them aside before actually writing your text, checking up afterwards to make sure that you have remembered accurately and not missed something vital. Your text should include the most important facts but not follow the structure of the original and not try to include every little detail. Happy editing! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I replied to this review comment on 23 October to say I had done some more work on this page, but also pointed out that some of the lines coming up as showing infringement can't be changed, eg the bibliography which is a list of books that customarily appear in that order (title, publisher, date of publication) and also the names of awards (sometimes quite long names) are fixed and can't be altered. --Pippipip (talk) 07:32, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cath Mayo article

Hi Pippipip

I've added a bit more detail to the Cath Mayo wikidata item - see here which will hopefully help Google find the article. It can take a while for the article to appear via a Google search but it will get there! Other than waiting there isn't much you can do as it is Google's knowledge graph and they're the ones that need to update it with the new information available from Wikidata and Wikipedia. Hopefully it will turn up soon. --Ambrosia10 (talk) 17:43, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve University of Otago College of Education / Creative New Zealand Children's Writer in Residence

Thanks for creating University of Otago College of Education / Creative New Zealand Children's Writer in Residence.

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I think this is not sufficiently notable in its own right and should be merged into University of Otago College of Education

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:52, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: Just interjecting myself here after Pip asked for advice. I think the article is potentially notable if we add some more sources discussing its history – it's certainly a significant article for children's literature in NZ. The list of winners will be a useful starting point for redlinking and creating articles about New Zealand writers as well, and helps establish notability for them. It wouldn't make much sense to merge it into UoO College of Education, as they're more of a sponsor/supporter, and people looking for those writers in residence probably wouldn't think to start there. Pip and I will see what we can do to improve it. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 09:43, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It was just my view, the article on University of Otago College of Education is not much longer than this article. The real question is, does the "Creative New Zealand Children's Writer in Residence" reach the Wikipedia notability requirements of having received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Maybe it does, in which case you can remove the tag I put there. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: Thanks for reviewing this page. I have added some more citations from reputable and independent sources such as the NZ National Commission for UNESCO website (as Dunedin is a UNESCO City of Literature), Heritage New Zealand and The Sapling which is a website devoted to NZ children's literature. I feel this article is notable as it profiles the only residency in the country which is set aside specifically for children's writers and which has fostered the careers of many of New Zealand's top writers. --Pippipip (talk) 07:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, it does seem to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria and I have removed the tag. I also removed the external link to Robert Lord's Cottage. Such links should not be included in the text of articles. Otherwise, very nice! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:37, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Advice on James Norcliffe article

Hi Pippipip, I've gone in and linked the article to its wikidata item number so the authority control is auto generated. This gives his various identifiers. To find out who put the challenge for notability markup on the article I went into the article's history. If you do the same you'll see who added the markup up and can press the "talk" part of their username to ask them about it. Personally I think you've referenced it really well. Perhaps it might satisfy them if you add a couple more references to the various news paper articles that mention him. I'm convinced of his notability but it is possible that the editor has an issue with some of the links possibly being classified as "press releases". Perhaps including references to news articles as this, this and this will help alleviate this concern. Let me know if you have any difficult as I'm of the opinion that he is notable and would be happy to add these references and then remove the tag.Ambrosia10 (talk) 23:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pip; I noticed this too. I think the notability challenge is because of the need for reliable sources WP:RS that are independent of the subject (so not bios put out by his publisher) and have information that's not just a mention in passing (so one of the news stories Ambrosia10 mentions is actually about someone else, and just mentions him in the list of winners). Also it would be good if it's a legit publication, with a clear author, date of publication, some evidence it's edited etc – which can rule out some blogs. It can be tricky to get the sources required, even when someone has won prizes and seems notable. Obviously any organisation that gives out literary prizes should also make sure all the winners get interviews in the newspaper and on radio so they meet Wikipedia's criteria! Better sources I'd suggest would be the interview with Rebecca Styles in Flash Frontier (2016), the RNZ interview with Wallace Chapman (2016), and the article in Jacket by Vaughan Rapatahana (2015) – all linked from the ANZL page. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 03:02, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Barbara Else

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@Rosguill: Thanks for reviewing the page I started on Barbara Else. I have added some more information to the lead section to include mention of some of the most significant awards and fellowships she has won, and have also added a note to that effect on the article's Talk page. --Pippipip (talk) 19:18, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Doomsdayer520: Thanks for reviewing the page I started on Anna Mackenzie (writer). --Pippipip (talk) 18:54, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Children's Lit WikiProject

Hi. I'm Barkeep49 and I am working to re-establish the Children's literature WikiProejct as an active project. It seems like you might be interested in (re)joining. If so I would encourage you to add your name back to the active members list. If you have any questions feel free to leave me a talk page message or ping me here. Otherwise I hope to see you around the project. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:27, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Link to what we were talking about

See this and DEFAULTSORT markup. May help, may not! Ambrosia10 (talk) 05:18, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ambrosia10: Worked perfectly, thank you!! Happy Christmas and best wishes for enjoying the holidays! --Pippipip (talk) 07:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Robyn Belton

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Thanks for creating Robyn Belton! I edit here too, under the username Rosguill and it's nice to meet you :-)

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@Rosguill: Hello, Rosguill, nice to meet you too! Thanks for your suggestions on ways to improve the page. I've done some more work on the lead section and hopefully it is better now; also the page for Jennifer Beck. --Pippipip (talk) 01:28, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Ashleigh Young

Hi Pip; I'd actually been meaning to create Ashleigh Young's article for some time, so thank you for prompting me. The redlink warning you got was simply to say that a previous version was deleted on account of non-notability (probably not enough references). The version I just posted is scanty, but there are plenty of references and lots of room for fleshing it out so by all means have a go! Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 21:44, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Giantflightlessbirds: Great! Will do , thanks! --Pippipip (talk) 22:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fifi Colston‎

I've tidied up the draft and moved it to mainspace. Good work. Schwede 66 17:25, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Schwede66: That's great! Thanks so much for your help! --Pippipip (talk) 20:54, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Rosguill: Thanks for editing the page on Tina Makereti and also for the tip re avoiding external links in body of article; I didn't know that at first, but have stopped doing so in later pages created. Thanks again. --Pippipip (talk) 21:12, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion about CLNZ/NZSA Research Grants

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@Citrivescence: Hello Citrivescence and thanks for the welcome. I've looked at that page and have managed to find a few more citations on the Australia & New Zealand Newsstream online database. However I can see the importance of people who are given a grant referring back to it in interviews about their work. I can find references to finished pieces of work but no mention of the grant given to help with producing it. eg there is an interview with Jock Phillips on Radio NZ talking about the project he got the grant for, but no mention of the actual grant. Would that count as a citation, when matched up with other citations that do mention both grant and project? Also would the author's own blog or website count if they mention getting the grant? Thanks again! --Pippipip (talk) 19:32, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming Wellington events

Just a note to let you know about some things coming up in Wellington you might be interested in.

Saturday 22 June: Wellington Meetup, the first in a series of regular informal meetups for Wellington Wikipedia editors, organised by organised by Einebillion (Victoria Leachman) and Ambrosia10 (Siobhan Leachman). 10:00–12:00, net-work space, National Library.
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Cheers, Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 00:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled

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@Bilorv: Thank for your kind feedback and the suggestion about applying for the the autopatrolled right, I will look into that. --Pippipip (talk) 00:14, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Location for next Wellington Meetup

Kia ora, I'm letting all those that have attended during last few Wellington meet ups know that the location for the next two meet ups has changed. The location for the Wellington Meetup 17 August 2019 and Wellington Meetup 31 August 2019 is now in the Alexander Turnbull Library Reading Room, Level 1, National Library. The National Library net.work space area will be closed for building work from 12 August. See the meet up pages for more information. Looking forward to seeing you there. Einebillion (talk) 04:47, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled granted

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@Kudpung: Thanks for reviewing my request and adding the autopatrolled permission to my account. Also @Bilorv: thanks for your encouragement suggesting that I apply for this right. --Pippipip (talk) 03:53, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:18, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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