User talk:Paul Broun

STOP VANDALIZING WIKI PAGE FOR JOHN ADLER AND CHRIS MYERS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.67.228 (talk) 19:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pennsylvania's 28th Senatorial District

A tag has been placed on Pennsylvania's 28th Senatorial District, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Realkyhick 04:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

August 2007

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with the page Pennsylvania's 47th Representative District on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Navou ^banter 04:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself, as you did with Pennsylvania's 95th Representative District. If you do not believe the article should be deleted, then please place {{hangon}} on the page (please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag) and make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. ✬Dillard421✬ ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pennsylvania's 95th Representative District

A tag has been placed on Pennsylvania's 95th Representative District, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. ✬Dillard421✬ ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Welcome, I've added some links below this note you may find useful. Cheers, Navou ^banter 04:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Pennsylvania's 13th Senatorial District

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Pennsylvania's 13th Senatorial District, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Navou ^banter 19:44, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Pennsylvania's 13th Senatorial District

Pennsylvania's 13th Senatorial District, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Pennsylvania's 13th Senatorial District satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pennsylvania's 13th Senatorial District and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Pennsylvania's 13th Senatorial District during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Realkyhick 21:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, you really need to sign on to Wikipedia with your user name and password when you edit and/or leave messages. Even though you added your user name manually to the message, it is greatly preferred that you sign on so that a properly linked record of all messages and edits that you make can be logged by our servers. Some editors see editing and messaging by a registered user who does not sign on as a sign of working in bad faith, though I don't think that's the case here. Sometimes it's your computer's fault; I've had that happen before.

Now to your main point: I nominated the 13th District because it had been marked with a {{prod}} tag twice, and when a prod is contested (removed by the author or another user), the proper procedure is to refer the article to AfD. I did so on purely procedural grounds while maintaining a neutral stance on actual deletion. After some discussion, I decided to withdraw the AfD and it was closed. During that discussion, you posted a comment that you had made changes to the article to meet the concerns about lack of sources and such, and that you "consider the matter to be closed". While the changes were very helpful and convinced other editors that the article should stay, an AfD discussion is not simply closed just because the original author says it is. It is closed when either 1) the AfD nominator withdraws the nomination (as I did, not knowing at first that I could do that), or 2) an administrator closes the discussion with a decision and action on th article. That's they way the rules are.

As for the 28th District article, I tagged it for speedy deletion, because at the time the article consisted of exactly one sentence. I believe some other editors did the same to some other similar articles you posted at about the same time. The speedy-deletion process is different than AfD in that stricter criteria must be met — blatant advertising, vandalism, people/groups/bands/clubs that are clearly not notable, or articles so short that they give no context as to their notability, among other things. When an editor tags an article for speedy deletion, an admin takes a look at the article and either deletes it or removes the tag, after which it can be submitted for prod or AfD. If the article substantially changes after the speedy-delete tag is applied, such as with a work in progress, the admin will usually remove the tag and let work go on, or the author can contest the tagging by adding a {{hangon}} tag. That is what happened with your 28th District article. If you use the same form for all of your district articles, you should be on solid ground from here on, mainly because we established a precedence with the AfD process on the 13th District article. In other words, if someone tags one of your articles for another district, you can tell them, "Hey, we went through this already with another nearly-identical article and an AfD, and the consensus was to keep." The AfD process gives you a bit of ammunition, so to speak. Realkyhick 04:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First off I can't really sign on because once I do and start editing things I automatically. I really do not think your being reasonable with these two deletations of the articles I created. The purpose of writing article about legislative district is to include counties, cities, townships and borough's that said lawmaker represents and thats what I did with the 13th and 28th Senatorial Diatricts. I included the counties and places that are included in the districts with the names of the lawmakers that represents said districts with links to back up my infomation, thats what these articles are about and nothing more. Now these are two good articles that were greatly improved and I urge you to reconsider your decsion 67.142.130.29 06:40, 5 August 2007 (UTC)Paul Broun[reply]

Evidently I didn't make myself clear. For the 13th District article, I withdrew the nomination to delete. Again, let me state that I nominated this article only for procedural reasons,and I withdrew the nomination, which in effect means that I have reconsidered and your 13th District article is safe.

I checked the editing history on the 28th district article. The first time that I marked it for speedy deletion was when you simply had a few random nonsense characters typed on the page. The second time, according to the "Edit summary" that I wrote, was simply a mistake. I goofed and clicked on the wrong button. When I realized what I had done, I immediately went back and reversed it. If you click on Pennsylvania's 28th Senatorial District and Pennsylvania's 28th Senatorial District, you will see that both articles have their deletion notices removed. You may be confused by the messages that still appear above this message right here on your talk page. Those are merely left as a record of what happened before. If you like, you may delete them from this page.

I see from your list of contribtions to Wikipedia that you are quite new to Wikipedia. Some of the ways we do things around here can be kind of confusing to newcomers — heck, sometimes they're even confusing to veteran users. Scroll up this page just a bit and you'll see a section called "Welcome! (We can't say that loudly enough!)" There are a lot of links in that section that go to helpful pages where you can learn about this great thing we call Wikipedia. One thing it doesn't mention are the Article for deletion (AfD) process and the speedy deletion process, and what the differences are between the two. You kind of got a baptism by fire in those processes over the last couple of days, so you may want to read up on what happened. After you've done that, you may want to carefully reread the previous message I sent you, as it may make a little more sense the second time around — at least as much sense as I can give it. :-) Take your time, and if you have any questions, leave me a message and I'll help as best as I can.

One more thing about signing on with your user name. If you use the same computer all the time, then there's an easy way to get your computer to automatically sign you on whenever you first surf over to Wikipedia. Click on the "Sign in/Create account" link up in the upper right-hand corner, then enter your user name and your password, then click on the check-box beside the words "Remember me". Assuming you allow cookies to be stored on your computer, checking that box will automatically sign you in every time yo go to WP. It'll make things much easier for everyone, particularly yourself, and especially if you intend to create many articles here — which we strongly encourage. Realkyhick 07:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

October 2008

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to John Adler, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Click here for details of your recent vandalism. Please do not remove sourced content from articles without an explanation. I would suggest discussing any proposed deletions of content at Talk:John Adler and obtaining consensus on the proposals before making any further changes to the article. Alansohn (talk)