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File:Divine Signs (HA).png

You put a invalid license on File:Divine Signs (HA).png. Only for use in Wikipedia is not a license we can accept here. It may be possible to justify the image under fair use, as long as write about the poster, not just the concept the poster illustrates. But you will need a fair use rationale. The same applies to the other posters. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


Okay thanks for the info. (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 23:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC))

Younus AlGohar

Hi, I've moved Younus algohar to Younus AlGohar ϢereSpielChequers 12:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


Fair use rationale for File:MFIatIranianEmbassy.JPG

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Thank you for the information. I have reduced the resolution of the image and added more information about why I think its suitable to keep. (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 01:17, 2 January 2010 (UTC))

Edit War!!!

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
  • You don't belong to His Holiness Gohar Shahi, you dirty soul belongs to younas harami & Let me tell you that you are not working for the cause of His Holiness, but you are a group of opportunists. Don't mess up with us, otherwise we would open your reality to all.--116.71.2.18 (talk) 07:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
  • I hope you understand that in Wikipedia, we assume good faith with other editors, and do not automatically become hostile with other editors. Please understand that no edits done by myself to any of the Younus AlGohar, Messiah Foundation International or Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi articles were done as a personal attack. They are rather what I perceived to be constructive edits. I was merely pointing out to you editing this article to include"Son of a ......" as part of said person's name is vandalism. If you wish to add information or have any other objections, I would advise you to discuss it in the talk pages. Thanks for your cooperation. (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 07:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC))
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
  • I've semi-protected both articles without the NPOV tag. If the edit war continues it will be met with by longer periods of protection and longer blocks for the IPs. I've asked that any issues be raised on the relevant talk pages. Mjroots (talk) 15:32, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Sorry I always forget about that. I'll try to remember from now on. (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 07:18, 13 January 2010 (UTC))

January 2010: Sufism

There is an ongoing edit war in the article Sufism in the Sufi Sheikhs -> Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi sub-section of the article. Could we please discuss this issue on the talk page? See Wikipedia:Edit war. Thanks. Esowteric+Talk 10:35, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Once again, please at the very least, attempt to be cooperative in improving the articles instead of re-pasting the same edit summary with every revert, as you have done here and here and here. Please stop the vandalism, and instead discuss why you believe the changes need to be made on the talk pages. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.71.15.61 (talk) 08:12, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason for re-posting my own notice to you? (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 09:24, 27 January 2010 (UTC))

ANI

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 08:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to the attention of those who can help. (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 09:22, 27 January 2010 (UTC))

Minor edits

"A check to the minor edit box signifies that only superficial differences exist between the current and previous versions: typographical corrections, formatting and presentational changes, rearrangement of text without modification of content, etc. A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. An edit of this kind is marked in its page's revision history with a lower case, bolded "m" character (m)." Could you please be sure that you follow this guidelines? Odd, you're the 2nd person in about 5 minutes where I've posted this. Maybe it's catching? :-) Dougweller (talk) 08:53, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Blocked for edit warring

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours to prevent further disruption caused by your engagement in an edit war at Messiah Foundation International. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. NJA (t/c) 09:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Although I understand that in recent days I have been involved in edit wars with IP addresses, I have tried with the IP addresses to first reach an agreement (see Talk: Messiah Foundation International and Talk: Younus AlGohar), however they have proved unresponsive to my attempts to explain my reverts and have instead ignored my requests for discussion. I feel that I should not be blocked from editing, as I have tried to assume good faith with the editors and reason with them.

Decline reason:

The correct thing to do when dealing with an IP user who will not listen is to report them here or ask that pages be protected, not continue the edit war with them. There are a lot of people hiding behind IPs who don't care for verifiability, only their Truth™, and while I wholly sympathize with you, I'm just not finding enough here to unblock. I'm sorry. —Jeremy (v^_^v Boribori!) 09:43, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I did see your belated attempts, such as this to use talk pages for discussion. However you must really do this much earlier on, and well before you're in danger of breaching policy. In the last day alone, you've reverted at least 17 times on the article. You must not revert more than 3 times in 24 hours on a single article, nor demonstrate a pattern of reverts that is disruptive (see WP:EW). While you feel as though your intentions were correct, obviously so did the other party. All both of you had done is cause disruption, and you're blocked to prevent further disruption.
In future, you should attempt page discussion earlier on, and if that's unsuccessful then follow the steps at WP:DR, but never edit war as it's silly and disruptive. Also, you might have considered requesting page protection at WP:RFPP for genuine disputes. NJA (t/c) 09:40, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your response...I'm sorry, I realize I should have paid more attention the dispute resolution steps. I assure you that from now on I will follow the steps more vigilantly, and will most certainly make appeals for page protection, as this seems like the only way to stop the random removal of cited information and the like. It, however, looks as if I cannot comment on that page to appeal for page protection. But anyway, thank you for dealing with this mess, I haven't made it easy for you to see the reasons for dispute with all my reverts. (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 09:46, 27 January 2010 (UTC))
I just took a look at the page to see if I thought it needed protection and it has already been protected. Dougweller (talk) 11:03, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow, that was quick! (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 11:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC))

Block reduction

From our correspondence you seem to grasp the reasoning for the block, particularly how best to approach situations where you find yourself in a dispute that has lead or appears to be leading to an edit war. Due to this, and due to the fact that the articles have been protected to allow for discussion and the formation of consensus, I'm reducing your block from the original 31 hours to 12 hours (as you do have two technical violations of 3RR in the last day). Note that the IP user is still blocked for the initial 31 hours, thus you will need to allow time for them to join in on any discussions. Cheers, NJA (t/c) 11:19, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for being patient with me :), and of course, I will discuss the articles and issues relating to them with the IP as soon as my block is over. (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 11:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC))
I was involved in the reduction, please don't let me down. And note what I said about about marking edits as minor. Dougweller (talk) 13:00, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for giving me the chance then :)! And I'll try not to make edits in such a hurry- that way I'll take time to decide if the edit I'm making is minor or not. Thanks again! (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 21:05, 27 January 2010 (UTC))

Comments by User: 119.160.18.209

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on RAGS International. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing.

You have no authority to be issuing ultimatums. —Jeremy (v^_^v Boribori!) 09:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
You seemes to be a professional lier as you have been threatening by lying that you can block my IP, You have no authority to be issuing ultimatums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.18.209 (talk) 10:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
IP blocked for 24 hours. As you've been advised, stay away from edit-warring, keep it civil (which you seem to be doing), use talk pages, etc. You're on 3RR at the moment on one article so be careful. It doesn't look as though this is going to go away easily, does it? Dougweller (talk) 10:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. By the way, you seem to be ticking the minor edit box which is only for things like spelling corrections, minor formatting, etc. Dougweller (talk) 10:55, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your message. You seemed emotionally linked with younus and foundation, let me tell you emotion are nothing on wikipedia what I have done is because it should be happened on wikipedia because it an encyclopedia not a place to advertise your organization.--Iamsaa (talk) 12:17, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Iamsaa, how can you justify that Omi is emotionally inclined towards, or linked to either the MFI (foundation - as by you) or Younus AlGohar. Just because she has been the main-editor of MFI and Younus AlGohar doesn't mean that she is linked to either of the mentioned. For example, if I said you were linked to Gohar Shahi, that would be ridiculous, I understand and respect that you are a constant editor of the article, but I wouldn't go as far as too accuse of being linked to the mentioned, thus, I advise that you too have mutual understanding between fellow-editors on Wikipedia. It's already a cruel world out there, and you could make a difference to everyone by being a better person, at least, online. Thanks a lot-- NY7 22:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
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May I burst your bubble? How can you accuse Omi of being emotionally linked with either AlGohar or the MFI. That's like saying that the 'Moon is made of cheese, and it is because it looks like it'. I suggest you keep a respectful tone with your fellow editors on Wikipedia, as Wikipedia is too a community. Both IDs (Iamsaa & Falconkhe including a dozen other IPs (?)) seem quite similar in their remarks and views, which do leave an impression that it's either one person using many IPs and IDs through a software.-- NY7 19:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your sensible comment Nasiryounus. Falconkhe/Iamsaa/Random IP's, I hope we can look past all those edit wars and make some headway on the articles- keeping in mind, of course, to at least try not to pass accusatory comments about other people on Wikipedia.

You Need to Read wikipedia

I know. I just find it useless to reply back to these types of comments...its too tiresome. Omirocksthisworld() 10:33, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Omi, we don't normally block all IPs from editing a talkpage, but considering the recent vandalism here I think we should make an exception. So would you like me to semi protect this page so that IP editors and brand new accounts can't edit it? ϢereSpielChequers 11:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey WereSpielChequers, that would be greatly appreciated...thanks! :) Omirocksthisworld() 11:25, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
OK I've put a three month protection on. ϢereSpielChequers 13:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! :) Omirocksthisworld() 23:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
No problem. If you get more problems and need it extended after it lapses, or you have problems on other pages, have read of Wikipedia:Protection policy or Wikipedia:Rough guide to semi-protection and file a request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. ϢereSpielChequers 23:39, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Okay will do! Omirocksthisworld() 00:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your message but I am busy nowadays and not able to spend time on WP.--Falconkhe (talk) 10:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
  • So, Falconkhe, how is that that you're so busy you cannot invest enough time to build a better relationship with a fellow editor, but you have enough time to go around editing discussions pages, people's comments, making unnecessary redirects and nonconstructive fiddles. Funny, isn't it?-- NY7 18:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your message, its not necessary that whatever, you think is correct and according to Policies of WP. So, don't revert my edits.--Falconkhe (talk) 09:24, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
What about your POV behaviour and linkage with younus, I am not accussing but I am sure you both (You & Other ID) have personal link with Younus and MFI, that's you are promoting them.--Falconkhe (talk) 07:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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RFC: Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi and associated pages

Hi, regarding the long-running content disputes over articles and pages relating to Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi, I have opened an WP:RFC. Please see: Talk:Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi#RFC: Long-running content disputes. Thanks, Esowteric+Talk 11:56, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

  • There is a no dispute whether Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi actually died, disappeared, or went into "occultation". We believe that he went into Occultation on 25th November 2001. The only organization HE founded was Anjuman Serfroshan-e-Islam and not MFI. Younus has nothing to do with Gohar Shahi, younus is using the name and pictures of Gohar Shahi for his ill-deeds. Through,RAGS International, The Representative of Gohar Shahi & Messiah Foundation International, Younus AlGohar, younus and his companion are using Wikipedia for self promotion of his self-made teachings. So, my point of view is that Younus should stopped on this stage, he shouldn't allow to use wikipedia for his ill-deeds.--Falconkhe (talk) 12:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I've replied on the talk page of the article. Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 01:23, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Younus AlGohar. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. — Scientizzle 19:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I have left comments as requested.--Your Message (talk) 11:37, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

You are suspected of sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Omirocksthisworld. Thank you.--Your Message (talk) 12:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 12:45, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Omi'. Good to hear from you. Hopefully the guy will have got the message after another five sock/meatpuppets have been indefinitely blocked. He now has his very own category: Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Iamsaa. So much for being a "seeker after Truth", eh? Esowteric+Talk 20:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Award: thank you!

Many thanks for the barnstar and for your own efforts! Also noted that we may have fresh WP:MEAT the day after the block at RAGS. Esowteric+Talk 10:05, 12 March 2010 (UTC) Thanks:)..does this mean the a new investigation will have to be opened? It looks like a meatpuppet/sockpuppet to me too.--Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 10:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks to you as well

I appreciate the recognition, but I also wanted to compliment you on your persistance and patience. Nuujinn (talk) 00:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :)! Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 21:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

Hi Omi', just to let you know that your name has been mentioned at an AN/I report. You can find it here about Newatwp.

Personally, I find you open to discussion and easy to work with.

Thanks, eric. Esowteric+Talk 14:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I understand, and I think its the right thing to do- I'm going to have to "clear my name" so to speak with this guy if I ever want to fix this. Thanks for your help with all of this. Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 20:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet case: cleared and closed

Resolved

Hi, just to let you know that at Sockpuppet investigations they found no sign of sockpuppeting by you, Nasiryounus or RayStar77. You can find the archived case here. Regards, Esowteric+Talk 09:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Esow' :). Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 09:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

a warm welcome

nice to see new editors join our project, please message me if you need anything.

Here to help articles tagged for rescue!

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And once again — Welcome! Okip 04:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

A spot check on the page looks like it is identical to the Spanish page. Perhaps someone has beaten me to the chase. Can you point out specific sections? Kiteinthewind Leave a message! 05:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

No such thing as being a bother (well, there is, but you are far from there :D)! Anytime! Kiteinthewind Leave a message! 05:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I got your request to update the Norwegian version, but there are some odd discrepancies, such as whether he is alive or dead. If you don't mind, I'd like to see how the English version unfolds before I start doing work on the Norwegian one. This is a topic I know nothing about, and I don't think I have time to do the research needed to get familiar about. Fascinating biography, though. Leifern (talk) 06:10, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I can't find an article on Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi on the Dutch Wikipedia, and in your request you actually linked to the German ("Deutsch") Wikipedia. Although I know some German too, I think you'd better contact someone from the German translation list. – gpvos (talk) 08:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

How can my knowledge of Polish be helpful to you? This article has no Polish version yet, although I may fix that and stub it soon. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:26, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Regarding your request to update the German version with content from the recently revamped English Wiki article, I'll have to tell you that this is not as easy as translating stuff from German to English. Due to copyright policies of the German Wiki, the entire article history of an English article will first have to be imported to the German wiki, which can take a while depending on admin speed. Other than that I have still another translation project to do over here, so I'll have to decline your request. I'm sure though that there are other translators around who'd like to help you with the German version. De728631 (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi at Wikiquote

Thanks for your help with the cross-wiki content dispute at q:Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

No problem- the IP sock of User: Iamsaa has been adding that article for a source on every WikiProject since being banned from this one. Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 23:24, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for being late .I have just updated the info regards to Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi's disappearance in Vietnamese Wikipedia.--AM (talk) 18:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination of The Representative of Gohar Shahi for deletion

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