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Trentino-Alto Adige/Sudtirol
Dear Nightstallion, I would like to discuss this region with you, as I've seen you be part of discussions in the past. I have left a note on the Trentino-South Tyrol page. take care. Taalo21:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
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NPA article
Hello.
Myself and User:Cswrye are currently discussing rating an article within Wikiproject: Psychology - specifically NPA personality theory. Would it be possible for you to provide additional insight, as and when it is convenient? Thank you! :)-- D-Katana 13:58, 04 October 2006
The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - October 2006
Our project has been working on novel articles for sometime now and has just passed the 4000 articles tagged as part of the project. Already we are on 4441 as of today.
The /Assessment department has been making progress with discussions on the top priority level of novels. These are those articles that should be present in any version of this encyclopedia.
The "Members" list has been modified (preparatory to removing the inactive ones to an archive or "inactive" list).
Member News
The project has currently 142 members, 16 joined & 0 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of September 2006.
Welcome to the fifth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
We would encourage all members to get more envolved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.
Those working on auto generated lists have been a bit quiet recently. However there have been some work done on the /NovelsInCompleteInfobox list, focusing on adding those missing "genre" entries - however after being rerun today after a 2 month gap the number of articles selected has gone up from 1049 to 1172. We need help to ensure the informatin gets added to the infoboxes.
I just noticed an anonymous user slightly changed the text of your vote at Talk:1 Ceres#Requested move from "minor planet" to "dwarf planet". Technically that's correct as 100,000+ asteroids are minor planets whereas there are only three dwarf planets. I almost reverted it as it doesn't seem good form to change people's text, but decided just to notify you instead and you can clarify if you like.
As a supervising admin, Nightstallion helped resolve one of the most contentious, mind-numbing, extensive disputes in Wikipedia history over the naming of state highways. For this commendable and exhausting work, he deserves the eternal gratitude and Wiki-love of every Wikipedian. Xoloz16:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Austrian schilling
Elementary school? Did you not begin civilian service in October 2005? And schilling was replaced in 2002? Perhaps you can ask someone who's older? Of course that is if you have time =) --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I had taken up the habit of using ISO codes instead when I was in Gymnasium, much in the same way that I opted for a Druckschrift writing style of the Schreibschrift usually taught in elementary schools when I was only eight or nine. I'll try to ask my parents or siblings, but please do remind me if I should forget. —Nightstallion(?)10:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Nightstallion. Could you look at Malwa. It has again been moved, causing all links pointing to a disambig page, and links to its FAC,etc. appearing red. What do you think about it? Thanks, deeptrivia (talk) 21:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
There is some confusion in the phase 4 vote (in my head at least). When voting for a design, one votes for more than one instance, since there are multiple options, especially for the "A" design. As example say A13 and B1 are liked the most. Then even if less people like option A13 compared to B1, by adding votes for the other A designs, B may have less votes than A in the end. This may be in contradiction to the "will of the electors". Did I miss something? Awolf00223:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
There are no different designs in this phase any longer. These are just different versions of the same basic design, which will have to be changed not to use Wikimedia colours, anyway; after every logo vote, the chosen logo was refined even more before it was made the new logo. I doubt there are many people who prefer a special version of A over a special version of B, but not all of them; maybe I'm wrong in that, though. —Nightstallion(?)10:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
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Federacy
I found your post on the federacy talk to border Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Because actually I have delved deep into the issue of assymmetric federalism and federacies (I finished my bachelor of arts in political science cum laude at Leiden University this September on basis of thesis concerning Comparative federalism that scored 9/10). I can give you references for all the statements I've made there.
I have decided not to reply on the articles talk because the discussion was going no where. Whether passer-by was right or me, would not have mattered for the article. Passer by expected me to defend a concept used by political scientists in scientific works. On wikipedia that is the defense, we are not supposed to critically reflect on concepts ourselves. C mon18:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Because a) it is debatable whether Austria functions like a federation (see Erk, J., “Austria: A Federation without Federalism” in Publius (2004) 34:1, pp.1-20) and b) because according to classic texts like Wheare (Federal Government, 1954), in federations (the term "pure" federations is not scientific) states should have equal representation in the higher house, which Austria lacks, because Laender have unequal representations in the Bundesrat. If there is unequal representation that is a sign that some states are more powerful than others. C mon20:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Mh. Isn't b) debatable, though? I have not studied political sciences yet (I'll get Mathematics and Linguistics out of the way first ;)), but it would appear logical to me that there would be a set of different ways of defining the upper house which would be equivalent in their "federation-ness"... Regarding a), it may not *always* function as a federation de facto, but with the coming state reform, it's likely to get the de facto situation more in line with what should be happening de iure. (Apart from that, de facto the influence of the local branches of Austria's two large parties in the national parties is very strong -- if that isn't federal... ;)) Again, sorry for appearing PA-y, it wasn't intended. —Nightstallion(?)20:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Four and a half months after the article is created, I'm still not sure it's worth keeping around. The term federacy as used in the article seems to be a specific meaning used only by Elazar and a few other political scientists who cite Elazar heavily. I don't know how big the field of comparitive federalism actually is, but I don't see any evidence that the rest of the profession accepts Elazar's definition of the word. In searching for occurences of "federacy", I find the Federacy article, some papers by (or quoting) Elazar, and a number of definitions and articles where it is used as a shorthand for "confederacy".
I'm rather tempted to put the article up for an AfD, for the reasons I've mentioned above, and because much of the content seems to be OR. Any thoughts on whether I should or should not? Argyriou(talk)05:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there any information on why we will not be able to use wikimedia colors - I would think that havinga consistent color scheme for all logos would strengthen the brand association between all wikimedia projects, the parent organization and each other. thx in adv --Trödel21:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed this article and I'd like your opinion on its notability. I've removed a dead IW links to the Danish Wikipedia, and, well, it is pretty obvious who created this content. Do you think he's notable or not? My first hunch would say no, since I have never heard this party referred to at all in Denmark, which is apparently home of the party HQ [probably his own house]. Then again, in a Danish context, I presume the party could be compared to the Socialist Youth Front in terms of notability, but I'm not sure Mr. Paasovaara is notable as such (yet?). Thoughts? Valentinian(talk) / (contribs)10:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Frankly, I'd say Paasovaara is not yet very notable, and should likely be merged into Europe United; the party's HQ, however, will soon officially be in Brussels. I wouldn't understimate their notability just yet. ;) —Nightstallion(?)13:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Mh. Good questions, but I'm afraid I can only guess, too... öS is right, yeah, totally forgot about that. I always considered the Edelweiß to be the obverse of the 1 Schilling coin, and I'm afraid I don't know either what the 5 and 10 Schilling coins actually depicted, though I suppose the rider could have been Prinz Eugen... I'm afraid I don't know, though. Have you e-mailed our national bank? They're usually very helpful... —Nightstallion(?)15:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VIII - October 2006
A new guideline concerning "In popular culture" sections has been introduced.
The new unit and formation category guidelines are being implemented; assistance with bringing the category tree into conformity with them is appreciated!
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Due to the diligance of many editors we now have more than 5000 articles tagged as part of the project.
The /Assessment department has been making progress with discussions on the top priority level of novels. These are those articles that should be present in any version of this encyclopedia.
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Member News
The project has currently 170 members, 28 joined & 0 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of October 2006. Of these 7 have been moved to a short "Inactive" list due to not contributing to Wikipedia for at least six months. They are free to reactivate themselves at any time, of course!
Welcome to the sixth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
We would encourage all members to get more envolved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.
The NovelsInCompleteInfobox has been regenerated at the start of October and was shown to have grown rather than shrunk! So this month I have concentrated my efforts (with some help from Grey Shadow (talk·contribs)) on the novels missing "genre" tags. These "genre-less" have now "all" been dealt with. Hopefully we can break the back of this load of work, but it will need help. It would be nice to get these worklists to a state where they can monitor the newly created articles rather than cleaning the retrospective material.
Collaboration of the Month
The Collaboration of the Month is going well. October's collaboration was slightly compromised by the removal of our notice early on; however there were still nearly 80 edits to improve the article. This months Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is Doctor Zhivago (novel)
Current debates
We have a project structure that allows for the formation of special interest task forces (al la "WP:MILHIST".) This is useful for identifying groups of Novels editors who have a common interest. (i.e. Science fiction novels, Crime Novels, Children's novels, Classic literature, Russian novels etc.) Would there be interest out there in setting one or more of these up. Comments please to the General Forum.
Hi. I couldn't figure out how to leave a comment or edit the HDI page and I don't have time to learn right now, but I did want to point out to someone that it appears to me that Australia is colored dark brown on the HDI map, ie, very low human development, rock bottom. I'm no map whiz and for a second I was wondering what the hell country that big island was
because I knew it couldn't be Aussie with it's super-high HDI.
Thanks for all the great work you people do. I always love when The Goggle drives me through The Internets over to The Wiki.
cheers,
tribalecho
I don't see the problem you mention; Australia has always been coloured dark green, as it should be... Good to know you enjoy Wikipedia! I certainly do, too. :) —Nightstallion(?)20:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. Maybe it's the angle of my light. Australia doesn't look the same color as North America on my screen, but brown or black. Well, my best friend has told me for years that something's not the color I thought it was. Maybe she's onto something.
No harm done, but I am positively certain that everything's in order with that particular map. If you find anything else that seems wrong to you, feel free to point it out or even correct it yourself, though! You might also think about getting an account -- it's free and offers a number of benefits. —Nightstallion(?)10:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Wiktionary Logo
Hallo,
wegen des Wikt-Logos habe ich Smurrayinchester angesprochen, in der Annahme, er sei der Hersteller vom neuen Logo. Da ich nicht sicher bin, ob ich an der richtigen Adresse war, wende ich mich noch an dich. Eine koreanische Buchstabe auf dem Bild(rechts oben) '언' würde ich gerne durch eine andere ersetzen, nämlich durch '말'. --아흔(A-heun) 13:23, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Ich glaube, du bist bei ihm an der richtigen Adresse. Rein aus Interesse, gibt es einen besonderen Grund, warum der zweite besser ist? —Nightstallion(?)13:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
'언' ist die koreanische Transliteration des chinesischen Zeichen '言'. Das koreanische Zeichen '말', ein Synonym von '언', ist aber rein koreanisches Wort, das man Hangeul bezeichnet. Daher wäre es hübsch, das letztere auf dem Bild zu sehen. -- 아흔(A-heun)
Ist klar. Ja, Smurrayinchester ist der richtige Ansprechparntner -- wäre gut, wenn wir diesmal so Peinlichkeiten wie im aktuellen Wikipedia-Logo tunlichst vermeiden... —Nightstallion(?)13:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Ich habe deine Bemerkung bei Smurrayinchester gelesen. Da ich mich auf Deutsch besser ausdrücke als auf Englisch, antworte ich hier. Koreanisch ist die meine Muttersprache. Was ich oben zum Ausdruck gebracht habe, wird keiner für falsch halten dürfen, falls er Koreanisch als Muttersprache beherrscht - es gibt manche, die mit eigener Muttersprache schlampig umgehen. Also ich sehe da keine Notwendigkeit, mich zu rechtfertigen. -- 아흔(A-heun)
Ich wollte auch nicht deine Meinung in Frage stellen, sondern nur erwähnen, dass man generell am besten Muttersprachler fragen sollte. Sag einfach noch dazu, dass du Muttersprachler bist, und erkläre, warum die Änderung Sinn ergibt, dann wird keiner was dagegen sagen, oder? —Nightstallion(?)18:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Which is better?I'm afraid I can't speak German, but I thought this would be the best place to ask this question: my computer has two forms of the glyph, a rounded one and a square block one (I don't have calligraphic version though). I though that I'd better ask a native speaker which form is prefered. Laïka20:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
The Korean language is my mother tongue, und ich bin Koreaner! Punkt. And nearly 90% of articles in the ko Wiktionary, including all Help pages etc., has been created and edited by me. Punkt. Thanks for a alternative image created by Smurrayinchester. Tomorrow I'll propose a image in another Korean font. I'm currently some busy... We'll see. -- 아흔(A-heun) 13:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The problem isn't that anyone doubts that you are right, Smurrayinchester and I only want to know *WHICH* of all the possible fonts we should use for your proposed sign. Noone's doubting your qualification to decide this, be assured. —Nightstallion(?)13:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I've created a image here. The font of a letter on the left side is Adobe Myungjo (명조), that on the right is Gungsuh (궁서). I prefer Myungjo to the others fonts. -- 아흔(A-heun) 18:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Next Serbian presidential election
Dear Nightstallion,
You removed "merge" tag. But the name of article is not suitable. "Next" makes no sense.After this "Next" election(2-3 months later) how we may call this article,"Old" or something else. Maybe it is suitable by the name of year,ie; 2006 elections, 2010 elections etc. Think about that.
Regards.
Mustafa AkalpTC20:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Trust me, that's the standard for elections whose year we don't know. As soon as we know whether it'll be in 2006 or 2007, we'll simply move it to a better name. —Nightstallion(?)23:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Linguistics
Just out of curiosity what do you believe you would get out of a linguistics degree (you say on your userpage that you are considering getting one)? A job? The only job I can think of for a person with a linguistics degree is translator, and perhaps researcher. (Not being hostile, just interested) PS: evil-plans.txt can now be found here, the link on your userpage doesn't work. +Hexagon1(t)04:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Frankly, nothing but the enjoyment of studying it (and anotehr Mag. and Dr. before my name ;)). Studying mathematics already guarantees me a well-paying job, and so I plan to study other things in parallel to working (if possible) afterwards since I simply love to learn. —Nightstallion(?)10:13, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Research and business, yeah. Teaching's also a nice job, but not too well-paying. Ultimately, I'm also interested in politics, but I don't want to start that before I'm 40 years or older. ;) —Nightstallion(?)01:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
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Storm of the month
Xangsane to the east of the Philippines
Typhoon Xangsane, known as Typhoon Milenyo in the Philippines was a destructive typhoon that affected the Philippines and Indochina. The storm caused severe flooding and landslides in the regions it affected and was responsible for at least 279 deaths and $747 million (USD) in damage, mostly in the Philippines and Vietnam. Xangsane formed to the east of the Philippines and rapidly intensified, striking Samar Island as a Category 4 typhoon. It weakened over the Philippines, but again reached Category 4 strength in the South China Sea. After its landfall in Vietnam, the typhoon dissipated, with its remnant crossing Indochina and entering the Bay of Bengal.
One hurricane, Hurricane Paul, formed in the eastern Pacific and hit Mexico. There were also two tropical storms, Norman and Olivia, and two tropical depressions in the basin.
In addition to Typhoon Xangsane, two further typhoons and two tropical storms developed in the west Pacific. Typhoon Soulik and Tropical Storms Bebinca and Rumbia both stayed clear of land, whilst Typhoon Cimaron hit the Philippines killing at least 19 people there, before it dissipated in the South China Sea.
The North Indian Ocean saw one storm, Cyclonic Storm Ogni form in the Bay of Bengal.
The 2006-2007 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season got underway, with Tropical Cyclone Xavier forming to the west of Fiji. There were two further tropical depressions in the South Pacific and a tropical disturbance in the South Indian Ocean.
Likewise the articles on meteorologists such as Lixion Avila are poor.
Member of the month
Cyclone barnstar
The October Member of the Month is Coredesat. Coredesat joined the WikiProject in March and has contributed to many diverse areas within the project. He has written two featured articles on Atlantic storms and a number of good articles on current typhoons. However, the article he is most proud of is a disambiguation page, a sorely neglected portion of the project.
The various agencies which report on tropical cyclones use a variety of different scales to measure the storms strength. The most familiar of these is the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale and this is the de facto standard in the project and should be used everywhere. However, as it is only official in the Atlantic and East Pacific, other local scales should be used when discussing storms in other regions and given primacy over the Saffir-Simpson Scale. The Saffir-Simpson scale is based on 1-minute averages, but other scales are generally based upon 10-minute averages, which are approximately 15% lower.
This table provides a useful-at-a-glance comparison of the various scales currently in use. Further complications arise due to the fact different agencies obtain different estimates for the same storm at the same time, so be careful to use the most appropriate source agency.
The problem is that it's a rather time-intensive process to transwiki stuff to the Commons, so I prefer to just mark the flags for transwikification and let someone else do it. Couldn't you upload them directly to the Commons in the first place, instead? Thanks for contacting me about this! —Nightstallion(?)01:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
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Again, the issue of the month is inline citations. A Day in the Life, A Hard Day's Night (song), and Get Back have all been defeatured, as they failed to satisfy criterion 1(c) of What is a featured article?, and other song FAs are due for the chopping block. Inline citations are an important aspect of articles—they ensure verifiability and reliability, and they remove original research. Additionally, they give readers the option to read the original source material and view it within context.
Basically:
All direct quotations attributed to Beatles members pooled from interviews need full inline citations.
All critical comments about songs or albums need full inline citations to notable music critics, magazines opinions, or reviews, as opposed to being merely comments by Wikipedians.
Inline citations need: author name, article name, publication date, and name of publication. Such info is still preferable even if quoting from an interview posted upon a website; when this is the case, place the URL link at the end of the citation with the date it was last accessed. (This will help editors retrieve the page using the Wayback Machine, should the link go dead in the future.)
Beatles News
The Beatles are due to release a soundtrack album, LOVE, at the end of November, as a companion to their Cirque du Soleiladaptation of the same name. It will feature remastered and remixed versions of their previously released songs, including some new medleys.
Paul's getting a divorce. Pain, arguing, and fighting abound.
Project News
Featured Article drive: A number of project members are collaborating on Paul McCartney's article, with the aim of getting it to Featured Article status. The work is going well and all help is welcome! Check in at Talk:Paul McCartney if you want to help.
The Wings tours are really nicely documented now (see Category:Wings tours), but Category:The Beatles tours is almost empty. Kingboyk and the rest of us would love to see (and read) articles on each Beatles tour, including the pre-fame tours of the UK—and the Hamburg trips, of course!
Our project members are too modest to report any awards they may have given or received.
From the Editors
Wherever possible, editors should help to trim down on list-like prose within Beatles articles. They should convert list-like sections into fluent, cohesive prose which ties an article's sections together. Lists make articles disjointed, awkward, and difficult to read.
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Hi, you recently tagged Image:OECS logo.svg to be transwikied to Commons. I have the high-resolution vector version on my computer, but I've uploaded it under the fair use doctrine and I'm not exactly sure if it would be appropriate for the Commons. Do you think I could consider it a flag, not a logo, and thus release it into the public domain? –Mysid☎09:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi! You use the Pacific Islands Forum Logo on your userpage. The old picture was deleted. As a substitute I created a much more authentic one that can now be found under Image:PIF Logo.png. Henning Blatt12:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you mention the extended Latin alphabet; could you explain what that means? I thought some of your examples were actually Greek (beta for example) but I imagine you know what you are talking about so I would appreciate the information. (fyi I came across your page when trawling around the rouge admin area and I liked it so much I read more) Abtract09:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, the basic Latin alphabet is just the standard twenty-six letters from A through Z. The extended Latin alphabet include all kinds of diacritic-based variations of basic Latin letters (such as ä, í, è, û, ...) as well as all supplements which exist in languages which basically use the Latin alphabet, but have extended it somewhat (like the German ß, the Icelandic ð and þ, the Scandinavian ø, the Azerbaijani ə). I see no problem with using all those characters in article titles and text. Japanese, Chinese, Arabian and so on should, of course, be transliterated. —Nightstallion(?)15:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
List of European Union member states by accession
Hello Nightstallion. I've been looking for the exact date when Morocco's application was rejected. Unfortunately, I've found nothing so far on the Internet. The only somewhat promising text I found was from Collier's Year Book which is part of Encarta CDROM encyclopaedia. However, Marocco's entry there for 1987 only contained the following: "Moroccan Foreign Minister Abdellatif Filali formally presented Rabat's application for EEC membership in Brussels on July 21. Since EEC members are required to be both European and full democracies, the Moroccan application faced an uphill battle." This information is already contained in the article here. As for other countries, I'll try to find other snippets of information when I find time, but I wouldn't be too hopeful. Hope you'll be luckier than me. Best regards. --RedZebra13:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Have you by chance heard anymore about when St.-Martin and St.-Barth leave Guadeloupe and take up their new status? I had read over the summer that it all was to take effect around now, but somehow the status got delayed in Paris. The guy who runs World Statesmen told me that he heard the law had to be passed by now and if it was done, it would take effect on Jan 1, '07. - Thanks, Hoshie02:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Dear Hoshie and Nightstallion, this is what I heard about St. Barth from my friends there: the Senate voted to accept the change on Oct. 31, but the National Assembly must adopt the document before the change becomes official. France is holding presidential elections next year (primary in April and the final vote in May, 2007) so there are some changes in the parliamentary sessions, the next one being shortened, which I think creates some anxiety: they don't really know if the National Assembly will have time to debate and vote on the changes in time. I've heard that Bruno Magras, Mayor of Saint Barth (uhm is that mayor for life?? ;) He, he. Well, the man is good at what he does, but he's been holding positions of power on that islands for as long as I can remember!) is pushing hard for it to be brought up for debate in the National Assembly ASAP, like late January, but even so, it's not sure that the changes can be approved and put into effect by the end of the session, which is at the end of Feb. Pia03:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I can confirm that, yes. The next elections on Saint-Barthélemy and Saint-Martin would be held in March 2007 if everything is approved on time. —Nightstallion(?)11:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I noticed your comment here Talk:Partij voor Naastenliefde, Vrijheid en Diversiteit#Title "it should not include a "&"; this character screws up all attempts to watch or unwatch the page, for instance, as one has to manually insert the html code for "&" into the address bar." I know this comment was in May but is it a problem you still have? I don't appear to have any problems with a question mark and my watch list. Try User:Nil Einne/Sandbox/Trying question & mark if you want. I'm using Firefox 2.0. I'm not planning to create or rename any pages with the ampersand/question mark/& but was just wondering whether it's really a wikimedia problem that's been fixed or it was/is a browser problem. Nil Einne08:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Simply put, there wasn't much in there beyond a statement that the elections were going to be held and an infobox. I realize that this is a future event, but there just wasn't anything IMO to go on. - Lucky 6.917:10, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Still, I and a lot of other people have been trying to channel all information that would be left in disarray on Wikipedia into election articles by creating the articles on the elections as stubs beforehand. I don't think such a strict deletion attitude is necessary with clearly notable, yet underdeveloped stub topics, wouldn't you agree? —Nightstallion(?)17:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, how are you? Having a look at the discussion of the article in question I could notice how you congratulated and supported the SACN. I just wanna thank you for your nice words and your feeling for South America as a whole. Unfortunately, I cannot see the changes we were supposed to experience with the Union. Recently, there has been a meeting in which every associate member agreed to revoke the so-called visa. This visa, as you may know, was a compulsory and expensive document required when travelling from one country to the other. I'm pretty sure this fact is really important for us as a subcontinent, because it allows everyone to cross the border for a maximum of 90 days without showing any documentation.
Anyway, there are still many things to do. I hope we can see the difference in a couple of years time.
Greetings from an Uruguayan citizen living in the European Union (and as things go on, soon an EU citizen).
--Gustave - May I help you?22:47, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
The page you link to states precisely what the article states -- that Northern Cyprus is de facto not part of the EU currently; and no, we don't got by somebody else's naming standards on Wikipedia, we go by our own naming standards. Regards, —Nightstallion(?)12:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue IX - November 2006
Thanks so much for taking the initiative. I've been on a semi-Wikibreak for the past few months (have a boss with a big day next week), so thanks for keeping me posted The Tom16:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Naming convention for elections
Hi Nightstallion. I noticed your amendment to WP:NAME#Elections ([3]) regarding future elections. There seems to be a chnage here from the 30th Irish general election format to your new Next Irish general election format. Does this reflect a general consensus on the best naming convention for future elections? I only ask because I didn't see it being discussed anywhere, and the intro to WP:NAME says please ensure that your revision reflects consensus. AndrewRT(Talk) 23:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Mh, well, there were a number of problems with creating election page articles for Germany and Greece, where different people wanted to use different numbering systems for counting the elections; we agreed then that using "next" instead of "n-th" would ensure that the article title is correct and neutral... If anyone's got a problem with it, I've got no problem with discussing it, though. —Nightstallion(?)10:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure we haven't always seen eye to eye (I even opposed your RFA, as I recall), so I am all the more appreciative of your support for mine and your confidence in me. I wasn't going to send thank-you cards, but the emotional impact of hitting WP:100 (and doing so unanimously!) changed my mind. Please let me know if I can do anything for you in the future. Cheers! -- nae'blis23:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I try to judge other people by their character and not by their actions, as far as is possible in an internet environment. (Not that your actions would be a detriment to your adminship nomination, incidentally.) Good luck and take care! —Nightstallion(?)13:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Nightstallion. There is an ongoing content dispute at Single-party state. Although your use of rollback during a content dispute constitutes abuse of administrator privileges, I have decided to assume good faith and consider the possibility that you made a mistake.
Mistake, indeed. I'm afraid I still occasionally commit thinkos when I mean to revert manually and provide an explanation and click "rollback" instead. Sorry for that. —Nightstallion(?)14:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Title corrector
A (working) title correction script has now been globally implemented, therefore my title.js has been deleted. If you see any errors, it might be a good idea to remove it from your monobook.js. Thanks. haz(talk) e14:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I have been/am reverting your moves of these pages. If you want to rename the articles, please (a) discuss the matter on the appropriate talk pages, and (b) make sure you move the talk pages WITH the articles themselves. The way you've done it, some of the articles are now MIS-matched with the WRONG talk pages. I'm reverting. I'll accept the change later if a consensus emerges on the talk page. David Cannon21:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining that. I am willing to be flexible on this, provided that other contributors to Fijian articles agree. For the time being, I've reverted them all, but that's not a final decision, please don't take it that way. We'll just wait and see what the others say. I agree that the articles should be standardized. But I also consider that the simpler the titles are, the better. If the consensus is to rename the articles, we can use a program like AWB to fix all the redirects. David Cannon23:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for not explaining earlier, my mistake. I'd say we simply wait a week or maybe two and see what other people have to say on it. Incidentally, I assume you wouldn't be opposed to moving the "Fiji general election, YEAR" articles to "Fijian general election, YEAR" instead, to use the correct demonym instead? Just checking to make sure we don't run into a communication problem again. :) —Nightstallion(?)15:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
How did you make your userpage?!
I would like to make my page to be as good as yours. Did you use a program? If you did please let me know so that I may experiment. Thanks!!!(UNFanatic17:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC))
I mostly looked at other userpages for inspiration and employed standard XHTML techniques. No program was used except for Firefox. —Nightstallion(?)17:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
rollback
You really do need to be more careful with rollback... here you rolled back without explanation and re-introduced content in clear violation of WP:LIVING. Were that content deemed to be libel, you could be held accountable for adding it to an article. --W.marsh01:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Um, I won't object if the moves fit the template used for other countries. That's fine. Please make sure all the talk pages match, and any double redirects fixed. Don't worry about regular redirects - I'll use AWB to fix those later. David Cannon09:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello this is an interesting user page. I was browsing through your template of userboxes and noticed you 'believed in the existance of a human soul of spirit'. On the main page however you said your religion was 'strong atheism'. I was of the opinion that mainstream atheists rejected the idea of a soul. Anyway I'm not insulting your beliefs or anything like that, I'm just curious as to what you mean. 124.177.4.12914:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's kind of complicated and I'm not quite sure myself -- hell, who is, anyway? I certainly don't believe in any kind of god or gods, and I strongly doubt all kinds of esoteric things, but I have a certain feeling that there's something special about living beings that makes me believe that there's some kind of "soul", "spirit", "essence of being" or something close to that, call it what you want. I do realise that it's a contradiction of some sort, but I haven't really managed to think it through yet. —Nightstallion(?)16:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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Why do you mark all your votes in ArbCom elections as minor edits? Please consult our guidelines before further editing. Thanks, Ghirla-трёп-13:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Because I consider everything which is not a major change of content, removal of content that's not just RVV, and so on -- basically everything which I wouldn't want to show up on my watchlist -- a minor edit. —Nightstallion(?)13:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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Hello again. You seem to be the higher authority that is involved in the logo selection process for Wikiprojects, so I was wondering if you could help me understand why the Wikiproject logos, specifically the Wikibooks logo proposal, are not supposed to be the same colors as the Wikimedia logo. --Firehazard0705:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm no higher authority, I'm just the one who got his act together and decided to *do* something when we had to start a contest for the Wikiversity logo, anyway.
The reason is that it's important to our Marketing Department that the logos are easily distinguishable from each other, as I understand it. —Nightstallion(?)15:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Date of next Thai election
Hi there! I noticed that you changed the name of the Next Thai legislative election article to Thai legislative election, 2007 and also changed the Thailand crisis template to specificy 2007 as the time of the next election.
However, the latest announcement of the junta puts the timing of the next election at sometime in 2008. See here "Drafting new charter 'may take 17 mths'". Since the junta has flip-flopped quite a bit on the timing for the next election over the past months, I don't think we should presume to state when the election should occur. Best just to say that it has been promised some time in the future. The article should, IMO, be titled Thai legislative election, post-2006 coup until a very very firm date is scheduled. Your thoughts? Patiwat20:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
If that's how other articles do it, then I'm OK. However, it does seem a bit awkward - since somebody will have to change the article name the moment a date is scheduled. And if the junta decides to push back the date again, the article title will also have to be changed. Patiwat06:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Still, that's the way it should be: A date in the name if the date has been set, "next" (or in special cases like Canada the number of the election) if the date hasn't been set yet. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, BTW! —Nightstallion(?)12:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. BTW, I've just replied to your followup question about succession to the throne of Thailand here. Sorry for the late reply. Patiwat12:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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I have a new problem with an anonymous user. I had renamed Armen Sarkissian into Armen Sargsyan since it's the correct transcription of his name Արմեն Սարգսյան. An anonymous user has reverted it using cut and paste : [6]. He has some reasons to do so that he explained... on another page! (Talk:Aram Sargsyan). I copied and pasted his argumentation on Talk:Armen Sargsyan. Since those reasons don't convince me, I suppose I could simply revert his erasing of the Armen Sargsyan page, but I'm sure he'll do it again in the future. What advice could you give to me except to make a cup of hot tea and watch a SF film? Švitrigaila23:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I've undone the cut-and-paste move and temporarily protected the page against moves, but in the long run there's not much to be done against such problems... —Nightstallion(?)23:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Since you're not far and you have always read my ideas with indulgence, I would like you to read what I wrote here and write your opinion on it. It's very long so I don't force you to do. In fact, I would even be glad if you corrected my spelleing and grammar, but I think I'm taking advantage of your kindness... Švitrigaila01:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
That was just an overlook on my part. I had forgotten the was a Member states box when I asked the tabs to be set up, one with the same name. I'll see if it can be easily fixed. Thanks for looking tho :) Joe I14:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Oops, I was wrong. The "Member States" was a box that was already made when I started editing the portal. Joe I14:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
It mostly looks fine to me, Joe, though the "euro-region" bit in Hungary has to be wrong (most notably because euroregions are transnational cooperative measures within the Union, not subnational administrative entities), and all dates should be linked. One could also question the very differing content and information included for the different countries -- why is it special that Lithuania joined the WTO, or that Greece and Spain joined the euro, and so on? —Nightstallion(?)12:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Mainly the reason for the differing content was because of the country article itself. I used what I could find, but tried to make them similar, such as government types, borders and multinational organization memberships. I'll get the links and clean up Hungry. Thnks :) Joe I14:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
It's gonna be hard to take it to ArbCom since thr RfC isn't even gonna get off the ground,since I need two signatories. Huaiwei evidently knows the rules well and uses it to play a game. You need two persons to sign an RfC, and nobody seems willing to sign an RfC unless they are the one personally being insulted, and you can ony bring up one dispute per RfC. The result: You can, in any dispute, insult one person, and nothing will happen. Funny rules... --Regebro14:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd sign it, but it has been ages since I've clashed in any of the Hong Kong/Singapore/... issues with Huaiwei or any of the other editors regularily involved... —Nightstallion(?)14:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Ah, the bull. Well, I decided I didn't really like it as much as I thought (with the mythological background of raping Europa and all that). —Nightstallion(?)15:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Suo jure
The form ist is suus, sua, suum. Unless suus refers to jus, the form for female nouns issua. -- Zz13:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. This shortened late issue covers just global tropical cyclone activity in November, to prevent the next newsletter from being too large.
Tropical cyclone activity
One hurricane, Hurricane Sergio, formed in the eastern Pacific. Sergio was the longest lasting November Pacific hurricane recorded. Two other tropical cyclones, Tropical Storm Rosa and a tropical depression formed in the basin. None of the systems affected land.
A total of three typhoons formed in the western Pacific, and all the storms followed a similar track across the Philippines. Typhoon Cimaron formed at the end of October and lasted into November, killing 19 people. Typhoon Chebi existed during the middle of the month and was the weakest of the three causing minor damages. The most devastating storm of the month, Typhoon Durian hit the Philippines on November 30, killing at least 720 people in the island nation.
Two named cyclones developed in the Southern Hemisphere, Tropical Cyclone Yani in the South Pacific and Moderate Tropical Storm Anita in the Southwest Indian Ocean. Two unnamed depression also formed in the South Pacific. None of these storms affected land.
Editorial
The lateness of this edition is due to me being on an wikibreak and no-one taking up the slack. My wikibreak was the result of a lightning strike damaging my internet connection and frying my router, and the time taken for the replacement to arrive. As this issue is almost 3 weeks later than planned, only the monthly cyclone activity for November has been included. The next letter will be produced for January 7, 2006 and will be larger than normal to cover both month's Wikipedia news and December's tropical activity. There will be no Member or Storm of the month in January, to reduce the length; and the newsletter will return to normal in February.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Request
Dear Nightstallion,
I noticed that you have a lot of experience with getting articles to FA status. I have been working on the Ohio Wesleyan University page article and am trying to get it to FA status. I was wondering if you could provide some advice on how the article can be improved? Also, any contributions to it will be even more appreciated! Thank you so much for your time! I greatly appreciate it! WikiprojectOWU01:52, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I was under the impression Romania had cribbed the French 5th republic constitution pretty much wholesale, so assumed foreign summits would fall under the President's jurisdiction. Wikipedia has Romania listed as semi-presidential elsewhere. The Tom19:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Interestingly, it looks like though just the Bulgarian PM has been there as an observer at recent EU summits, invitations have been extended to both the Romanian President and PM, who've both been attending. That makes Romania the only state on the invite list to get two head-of-government-type invites. I can't imagine that'll continue into 2007. The Tom19:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Similar situations where when Finland and Austria joined and the presidents also wanted to attend the summits; in the end, the prime ministers won. I'm fairly certain this will also be the case for Romania... —Nightstallion(?)00:08, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, let's see what happens. Another apparent benefit that prompted me to add the "or territory" is that "Country or territory" accomodates both those whose POV is that place X is a territory as well as those whose POV is that place X is a country, without it suggesting a stance either way. (Hence my suggestion to use "Country or territory" in category names.) Hope Christmas was fun! Best wishes, David(talk)22:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for soliciting again... I've made a mistake. :o|
I wanted to rename Empress Dowager Shōken into Empress Shōken (see Talk:Empress Teimei for the explaination) and instead I have renamed only the talk page. And I can't rename the article's name by myself, the move is protected, so the page and its talk page are dissociated. May you, please, rename the article or, if you don't want to, may you rename back the talk page ? Thanks in advance. Švitrigaila13:21, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
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