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When I remember why I enjoyed editing wikipedia, I'll be back

This could take a while. --Nemonoman (talk) 01:35, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have a refreshing break. You deserve it! • Astynax ^talk 07:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT themes in Hindu mythology

The article was recently moved to "Gender to Hindu mythology". You passed this article as GA. Do you endorse the change? Discussion at Talk:Gender_in_Hindu_mythology#Requested move. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:26, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Important enough for me to come out of my cave and comment. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It is not likely that I'll be participating in further discussion in a timely fashion...so I'll wish you good luck and cross my fingers for a favorable outcome. --Nemonoman (talk) 05:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Anahata Yoga

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File:Taj and minar.jpg listed for deletion

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Once you decide to test the waters again...

Platine War is an article which I have been helping to edit. It was put up for GA review, and got one of those no-notification quick-fail reviews by a drive-by viewer. He/she did leave behind a tag indicating issues with PoV, and I was wondering if you could put on your NPoV spectacles and give it a once-over? The article may have other issues and not have been ready for a GA review, but it would be good to have another set of eyes to look at it for PoV wording. • Astynax ^talk 21:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I should have struck this earlier. The allegations of PoV weren't that compelling and the article passed GA. • Astynax ^talk 20:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations Astynax. "Persistence in a righteous course brings reward!" --Nemonoman (talk) 12:24, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Astynax. I edit so infrequently these days that I didn't feel that I should take a slot. Best to you! --Nemonoman (talk) 13:33, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Tulāsana for deletion

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August 2011

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Greetings

I am attempting to settle with reasonably with you. Take it to the editors talk page. Stop edit-warring. Content disputes rarely end well for any party. The editor seems to reasonably asserting, through reliable sourcing, that he was indeed a noted cult leader. The point is, we now discuss things not act childishly. - 4twenty42o (talk) 21:56, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I just 3rr'd Don E Stevens. Miscounted my R's. Somebody block me. --Nemonoman (talk) 03:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I reverted your edit, if this is any way to help you from getting blocked for 3RR. I could have also reverted it, but the point is we should be discussing it instead of reverting. Given tha absence of any good will to discuss, I am at a loss too. I usually don't revert, but here it's a massive attack involved. In my years here I have never seen such a thing. This shouldn't be allowed by any standards, not between wikipedians at least. Hoverfish Talk 04:14, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, you didn't violate 3RR. There is a 24 hour period where you made 4 reverts (19:21, 9 August 2011; 21:44, 9 August 2011; 21:47, 9 August 2011; and 03:52, 10 August 2011), the second and third edits were consecutive, and thus count as a single revert for the purposes of counting 3RR. Thus, you have reverted 3 times in 24 hours, not 4, and so didn't break 3RR. That being said, clearly something is going on at that article; I don't know what, but everyone needs to stop reverting and start talking. I'm going to see if protection or some other fix is temporarily necessary. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Qwyrxian. For better understanding of the heat, please have a look at user contributions of User:ConcernedVancouverite here. I have been an occasional editor of several of these articles, and I am very disturbed by disruptive editing. Individually, CV's changes may seen as the challenging but reasonable work of an editor with an agenda, but taken in total, his edits are much more challenging. --Nemonoman (talk) 11:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Although I have stepped away from editing the article a while ago, it is still on my watchlist. After this count provided by Qwyrxian, you have again reverted the article. I've reported it at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 16:25, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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You ask, you get. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 16:49, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to come here and do the same thing after seeing the article history. 3 hours after the protection expired, you immediately reverted back to your preferred version, rather than discussing it on talk. You knew you were close to 3RR, and, even if you didn't technically cross it, you were still edit warring. When you come back, please, take concerns to the talk page, and do not try to just force your version of the article. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:08, 11 August 2011 (UTC)][reply]

Thanks Qwyrxian. I regarded the saved version as vandalized. I'm not going to make a big deal about it. The prefered version I saved was the right version and the right thing to do. I knew I was falling on the grenade when I did the revert: that's how important the better version was to me. My violation of 3RR was a willful act, and I welcome this entirely warranted 1 week block. --Nemonoman (talk) 04:11, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Meher Baba

I thought I'd let you know about this conversation, an attempt to discuss the proposed change. I am sure the conversation will be ongoing so after your block expires your opinion would be welcome. - 4twenty42o (talk) 22:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roller derby

Thanks. If I step on your toes, let me know. Not entirely sure where the article is going and hard to figure out how to improve some sections… If you could have a go at the rules, citing the actual rules citation that I stupidly missed, that would be awesome. :) Would be nice to improve the equipment section and possibly get an graphic depicting the track proportions. --LauraHale (talk) 10:24, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And hello, Nemo. Feel free to call me Myron. I'll be happy to provide some more feedback and comments over the weekend. Am thinking is there's a few of us going to be working on this article, that we may want to organize a bit so we don't edit over each other. Will get you some useful links when I have a chance. Cheers. Echoedmyron (talk) 20:41, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Table Wiki Markup Help, Please??

Working on the Roller Derby page. I'd like to insert a table to the left or right of the article text -- more or less the same way one inserts a picture. I could do this in a heartbeat with raw HTML. Is there some sort of wiki syntax to do this?--Nemonoman (talk) 03:26, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure is. Check out Help:Table, Help:Wikitable and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables. If you run into a problems implementing, repost the helpme template. You can also always give me a shout on my talk page and I'll try to help.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think I know what you mean; it's a function of the margin number, so if you change {|style="margin:22px; ... to {|style="margin:1px; ... you get this, with the text butting up right next to the table:

caption
heading	heading
cell	cell
cell	cell

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

Does that help or did I misunderstand? You'll note that the edge of the text gets a little messy when it's this close. I think it looks better if you keep a bit of distance.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help finding special page showing first time an addition was made

{{helpme}} Sometime back I saw a special page that allowed a search of article versions to discover the first time a specific term was introduced. I can't find it again. Can anyone enlighten me? thanks. --Nemonoman (talk) 16:01, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're looking for WikiBlame.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:52, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help. The helpme template adds pages to a category that only a limited number of users monitor, so it's not very surprising that the same user may answer two separate questions of a single person. Just so you know, if there is a Wikipedia-related question on which you seek wider help, you will get it in front of more people by asking at the help desk. By the way, please feel free drop by my talk page and ask me a question directly (or for any other reasons).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: logo

You're welcome! I remember my first uploads and I felt the same as you do now, but when you do more of them, it's not so bad or hard. I try to put at some time daily into working on backlog (where things that go "bump" often wind up to get fixed) and that's where I saw your problems with the logo. If you feel you need help with any uploads in the future, please feel free to leave a note on my talk page and I'll try to help. We hope (talk) 23:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

United Kingdom Roller Derby Association

Hi - thanks for creating this. I'd been meaning to write an article at some point, but hadn't got around to it. Also, thanks for your kind comments in the AfD, although I think you may be over-generous about my chances of improving the article significantly! Warofdreams talk 16:58, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your opinion is requested

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List of roller derby associations

You're very kind! Keep up the good work yourself. I hope you're able to expand the Blue Ridge Rollergirls article enough to meet the requirements of DYK. There seems to be a lot of coverage on Google News, but it's almost all behind paywalls. Warofdreams talk 16:20, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question about MADE and OSDA

MADE and the OSDA are growing organizations in Roller Derby having been endorsed by Jerry Seltzer and having a dozen or more leagues expanding at a rapid. It is also the only organization for co-ed, men, women and old school co-ed type teams and leagues. Having been around since 2007, these are legitimate relevant organizations in Roller Derby. Previous edits have included links to other sources. What sources are required to keep this in the article? Roller Derby is a co-ed sport since the 1930s and the only two co-ed organizations are very relevant. (unsigned comment left by 65.242.105.66)

Hi. I have answered you on your talk pagehere

Thanks

Thanks for fixing my user page. :) --LauraHale (talk) 19:31, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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You might be think but its just your idea,npt the historical fact,so stop to make that changes which are seems like persian propaganda!--Kamuran Ötükenli (talk) 12:46, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Meher Baba

Sorry for no e-mail, but, at this point, no articles to e-mail. There are only two articles I could find in JSTOR that seem to relate to him at all significantly, and neither offered much by way of details. Give me another day or two to try other sources, and I'll let you know then. But, as is, it looks like you've already found what are probably the best sources. John Carter (talk) 19:54, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update, John. I thought maybe you'd sent something that had gone astray. If and when you do email me, please give me a WP message, as I don't track that email account very often. --Nemonoman (talk) 19:52, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Silence Day for deletion

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I have seen examples in references where the editor has included not just the book info and page number, etc., but also includes a short quote. It looks something like this:

::Blow, Joe, Some Book, Some Publisher, Page 10. "Quotes inside references are helpful, because they don't clutter up the article text."

At least I think I have seen this. Can somebody direct me to the proper markup for this?

See Template:Cite_book#Quote. And, please sign your posts. ∯WBG^converse 15:54, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks WBG for the help. Sorry I missed the sig. Here are 2 to make up for it. --Nemonoman (talk) 16:29, 13 September 2019 (UTC)--Nemonoman (talk) 16:29, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, indent properly, please. And, (may be) respond by indenting thrice the required ..... ∯WBG^converse 16:38, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll indent the hell out of everything!! --Nemonoman (talk) 17:24, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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There's a disbambiguation template that says something like this: Silence Day links here. For the LGBT anti bullying Day Of Silence, Click here: For other uses see Silence Day Disambiguation.

I've used it before, and now I can't find it. Please help thanks!

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See use cases at Template:Redirect. ∯WBG^converse 20:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TY! Nemonoman (talk) 20:38, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Notability Paradox

My impression is that the major driver of Silence Day notability has been its annual mention in Wikipedia On This Day. Because of On this Day, the number of eyeballs seeing the Meher Baba page and Silence Day eclipse the total sales of every book about Meher Baba ever published. So in effect, the main non-in-house source telling people about Silence Day, WP, is the same source that is now debating whether to delete it. Nemonoman (talk) 20:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How to find content of Main Page on a past date

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I am trying to see the content of the WP Main Page as it appeared on a past date; specifically the content of the On This Day section (for example on 10 July 2015). Is this possible?--Nemonoman (talk) 13:53, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, totally possible. Wikipedia:Main Page history is what you want. July 10th 2015 is here. Yunshui ^雲 _水 14:25, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Yunshui. I hadn't look closely enough. Your help very much appreciated! Found what I needed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page_history/2013_July_10--Nemonoman (talk) 15:27, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How to reference a previous reference

Please see Silence Day reference section. As the article continues, I'm pointing to different pages in books I've referenced before. I'm duplicating most of the information. Isn't there some sort of WP equivalent of 'op cit'? Thanks for the help.--Nemonoman (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of ways, depending on whether you are wanting to cite the same pages or not. Take a look at Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Repeated_citations and the subsequent section. This said, you're citing mostly pointless sources in that article because they're not independent of the subject and thus will (should!) have no impact on the outcome of the current deletion discussion. - Sitush (talk) 10:07, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Robbins has solid academic credentials and has published his dissertations over reputed peer-reviewed media - hence, he is reliable. This is is an interesting read, as to the broader locus of the capacity of sociologists to objectively interpret and critique any new religious cult, with which they sympathize.

No; mine being an atheist is not a conflict. WP:COIN lies that-way, if you disagree.

Please feel free to send any article that I've written about extensively/created, to AfD w/o consulting me. (Obviously, you do need to notify me of the AfD) You are always free to nominate an article for deletion (by policy) and the community will decide them, on their individual merits. Also, see WP:OSE. ∯WBG^converse 13:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another note:- Absent taking any article to AfD or taking any similar steps, if you continue to harp about my articles (and how I am being unfair as to not applying the same rules), you will find yourself at AN, for casting unsubstantiated aspersions. ∯WBG^converse 15:03, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you feel an AN is warranted, start one. I'm thinking about starting one myself. or as you suggested a COIN.

Please consider your words and actions. I am troubled by the cult comments in the AFD, and in others you have instigated: these paint and other editors with a bad brush, and clearly suggest that we are mindless automatons while you are much credible. That is bad juju, and I ask you to consider those expressions in the future.

I have and will continue to be respectful of you as a fellow editor. (I'm grateful for your helpme guidance, which was generous). I don't intend to AFD your articles, because I share their GNG interpretations. However our shared interpretation for THOSE articles should be applied to Silence Day's also. In the end howver, the AFD will be judged and decided, and it's important that all the facts, including your POV and your variance in guideline interpretations be put on the table.

I earlier asked you to withdraw the AFD because I think this one was uncalled for (as I think your reasoning is now proving), and because I know those discussions can be unpleasant, I know that eventually most editors, even the best, will get scrappy and start saying things that they might regret later.

For my part, I will try to stay on the high ground.

You spoke generally about your concerns, and I have spoken impersonally. If you feel that I have said something that warrants an apology, I will review and very likely apologize. I don't mind a few bruises in contact sports, but if I actually hurt someone, I am quick to make amends.--Nemonoman (talk) 15:25, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Content of Meher Baba Discourses before deletion

Silence Day

You made a great defense, and brought up issues and guideline language which really should have saved the page. You mentioned the likely possibility that articles exist in reputable Indian-language newspapers and, if you can find one or two of those, I'd think the page could be instantly brought back in the very good state you left it in. Congratulations on your caring for the topic. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:35, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is only one really reputable Indian newspaper and that is in English, ie: The Hindu. And even that paper has recently been caught plagiarising content. However, I did attempt a search elsewhere, and I'm sure WBG will have done so. I'm fairly sure some of the other !voters are speakers of various major Indian languages also. Please note that you're going to need more than "one or two of those" because none of the extant sources counted for anything, even the Toksvig piece. - Sitush (talk) 14:48, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Now M. Baba's gravesite page is having a deletion attempt (I put it back twice and said if they want to do that then an RM is needed). You'd think there'd be coverage in Indian newspapers about that at the time of his death. And how could the only reputable Indian newspaper be The Hindu when, I assume, Indian articles are used as sources at Indian Wikipedia (or is there an Indian Wikipedia?). Randy Kryn (talk) 15:31, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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