User talk:Mz7/September–November 2018
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Counter Vandalism Training
Hi, I saw that you have no slot left for counter vandalism unit. Same applies for the other two trainers. But, i hope you can inform if you can still train me. Just wanted to add that I have a quite busy schedule due to GCEs and I might be a bit slow in finishing up my course. But I hope you will try to train me, if you have a slot available anytime. Thanks, Knightrises10 (talk) 15:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I just read previous requests that have been rejected by you, as you remain busy. So, sorry. I am going to ask another trainer. Have a good day Knightrises10 (talk) 20:16, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi Knightrises10. It seems like you're already familiar with patrolling recent changes and reverting vandalism on Wikipedia. You have the rollback permission already, and it seems that you already know how to report vandals to AIV, UAA, and I can see CSD tagging in your contributions as well. It seems like you've already got a good grip on the content of the course just learning by yourself, and I think the course would just repeat what you may already know. We can continue with the course if you want, but I'm not sure how helpful it would be to you. Do you have any specific things you want to know more about regarding reverting vandalism on Wikipedia? Mz7 (talk) 20:19, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for telling. I just started reverting vandalism recently. I thought that I might learn something more, or something which i do not know about. If you think that I do not need training and should continue like this, then I will. Thanks once again. And by the way, I use twinkle at the moment, and haven't been granted rollback rights yet. Knightrises10 (talk) 20:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: Oh, sorry for not seeing that. You should remove the topicons at the top of your user page:
{{Huggle topicon}} {{Extended confirmed topicon}}{{Reviewer topicon}}{{Rollback topicon}}{{New page reviewer topicon}}
I looked at these and assumed you had all the rights they refer to. Currently, you only have the "extended confirmed" right, so you can keep that topicon if you want. Mz7 (talk) 21:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: Oh, sorry for not seeing that. You should remove the topicons at the top of your user page:
- Sorry, I don't know how and when i added them. Just removed them.Knightrises10 (talk) 21:22, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for telling. I just started reverting vandalism recently. I thought that I might learn something more, or something which i do not know about. If you think that I do not need training and should continue like this, then I will. Thanks once again. And by the way, I use twinkle at the moment, and haven't been granted rollback rights yet. Knightrises10 (talk) 20:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- So do you think I don't need any training! Knightrises10 (talk) 21:24, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: It's up to you. If you want, I can create your student page, and we can get started (you can also withdraw at any time if you feel like it). We'd cover some stuff you've already tried out yourself, such as what is the difference between "vandalism" and "unhelpful good faith edits", how to warn and report users, the criteria for speedy deletion, when and how to request page protection. Alternatively, you can keep doing what you've been doing and just ask me questions if you're confused about something. Mz7 (talk) 17:23, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I think you should create one for me since I remain a bit confused, especially when giving warnings. But will you please not mind if I am a bit delayed during exams or studies?Knightrises10 (talk) 06:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: Sure! I'm a little busy at the moment in real life, but I will definitely create your page this weekend! Mz7 (talk) 17:51, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Knightrises10 (talk) 18:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I am Just leacing this message as a reminder, in case you forget it. Knightrises10 (talk) 09:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
- I just wanted to know that can I be given Pending Changes Reviewer rights? I feel I will be able to use them properly. I don't want the rollback rights at the moment, because I am not confident enough yet, and that's why I asked for the training.
Regards, Knightrises10 (talk) 18:33, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks a lot for granting me the rights. Just wanted to make sure that do we have to warn users whose pending changes have been reverted because they tend to be Vandalism? Knightrises10 (talk) 19:51, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: So sorry for the delay. Was really busy IRL. Here is your course page: User:Mz7/CVUA/Knightrises10. You should basically treat pending changes as you would any other edit; if you think you would have warned the user had it been just reverting an ordinary edit, then you should do so when reverting pending changes. Mz7 (talk) 00:50, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot. I will start my training as soon as I get time. Knightrises10 (talk) 09:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I have completed my first task. Knightrises10 (talk) 17:10, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- Knightrises10, awesome! I'll take a look shortly. Mz7 (talk) 20:45, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- I have completed the next one too. Btw, should I just ping you there, or is it right to inform you here too? Knightrises10 (talk) 19:35, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- Knightrises10, I can see your pings there, so no need to inform me here too. Mz7 (talk) 19:55, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- In the next one, can I use twinkle for warning or should I use templates? Knightrises10 (talk) 02:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Knightrises10, definitely use Twinkle, since it's more convenient. I showed you the templates in the course, but I guess that's a little too old-fashioned nowadays. They're there if you need them. Mz7 (talk) 08:20, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
I hope you have received my pings. Knightrises10 (talk) 07:02, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. A different question not related to Vandalism. Do I meet the criteria for New Page reviewer? Or will I have to wait or do something?
Knightrises10 (talk) 15:22, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: You can find the criteria for new page reviewer at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers#Guidelines for granting. In general, at least
500 undeleted edits to mainspace that clearly demonstrate knowledge of page quality control
. According to this tool, you only have 379 edits to mainspace (i.e. to encyclopedia articles), so I'm afraid at this time it doesn't look like you meet the criteria for new page reviewer. Mz7 (talk) 01:25, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: You can find the criteria for new page reviewer at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers#Guidelines for granting. In general, at least
- Hi, can you tell me why my username is not getting tagged when i sign it using the four tildes on talk pages? Knightrises10 19:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: Check your Special:Preferences. I suspect you may have the checkbox "Treat the above as wiki markup." in the signature section checked – try unchecking that box (or modifying your custom signature so that it contains a link). Mz7 (talk) 22:46, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, that was the problem. Thanks :) Knightrises10 (talk) 01:59, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. I think you must be busy, isn't it? Because you didn't leave a feedback this time. I can understand your problem. So don't worry, I can wait until you are free. Thanks, Knightrises10 (talk) 09:23, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Knightrises10, yes my mind has currently been on trying to get the policy proposals at Wikipedia talk:Interface administrators to pass, among real-life work. I apologize for the delay. Mz7 (talk) 09:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- I should have more time over the next few days, since it's the weekend. Mz7 (talk) 09:35, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Knightrises10, yes my mind has currently been on trying to get the policy proposals at Wikipedia talk:Interface administrators to pass, among real-life work. I apologize for the delay. Mz7 (talk) 09:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
No problem . I can wait. Knightrises10 (talk) 09:34, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, if you are a bit busy, you can check my answers later. But can you please answer the 2 probably small questions that i asked at the academy page? Thanks, Knightrises10 (talk) 19:12, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- When sometimes I notify users about deletion tags on their userpages or articles, Twinkle also adds a welcome message as you can see here;is it okay or will I have to change Twinkle preferences? Knightrises10 (talk) 20:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Knightrises10, up to you. Some people think it's weird to welcome users you are warning about spam and decide it should be turned off. Personally, I don't really have a strong opinion on it. Mz7 (talk) 03:04, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- What is the policy of copying an article from another language Wikipedia, translating it in English through Google Translate, and then pasting it here at English Wikipedia? I hope I am not disturbing you a lot nowadays. Knightrises10 (talk) 14:13, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 August. It will be on all wikis from 23 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 22 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The 2018 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
- Legacy JavaScript global variables have been deprecated for seven years. They will soon be removed from all wikis. Gadgets and scripts that use them will stop working. You can test your community's gadgets on "group0" wikis. For example Test Wikipedia or mediawiki.org. The legacy JavaScript global variables are already disabled there. You can read the migration guide to fix old scripts. [1]
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16:46, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Need Help
Hello Mz7. A Wikipedia:Teahouse HostBot recommended you on as the best experienced editor to help with new editors like me. I got questions; 1 (a). Am I allowed to edit other editor's articles without breaking the rules?
(b). In case I can edit other editor's work, what happens when I edit a banned or blocked users's article? Will my account be affected?
Thanks BetaN2 (talk) 08:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi BetaN2, welcome to Wikipedia! This encyclopedia is a "wiki" – you can edit almost any article, even if you did not create it yourself. We encourage you to be bold! If you see something that needs fixing, feel free to jump right in and fix it yourself. We do have some rules that all editors should strive to follow (see Wikipedia:Five pillars for a list of our fundamental principles), but there is no rule against editing an article that someone else created. As a matter of fact, one of our rules is that no one "owns" any article. The articles belong to all of us, not any one particular editor or group of editors. For this reason, it is a little imprecise to say that any particular article belongs to a banned or blocked user – technically, the article belongs to no one. Ideally, your account should not be affected if you edit an article created by a blocked or banned user (unless, of course, you are somehow related to the blocked or banned user and editing in violation of the sock puppetry policy, which is our policy on using multiple accounts). Please let me know if any of this is confusing or if you have any other questions. Mz7 (talk) 08:48, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
I suggest closing this AFD
The AFD discussion on KSI vs Logan Paul has gone on for more than a month and since you've closed similar discussions in the past such as these ones, [2] [3] I think you'd be the right person to decide on this AFD discussion. 344917661X (talk) 21:16, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Talkback
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MutchyMan112 (talk) 10:33, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now see moved paragraphs in diffs in the mobile view. It also works on all languages in the desktop view. [4]
- Bureaucrats on all Wikimedia wikis can now remove the interface admin user right. [5]
Problems
- Some diffs show lines in the wrong order. The developers are working on fixing it. [6]
Changes later this week
- The message you see when you thank a user will change. This is to make it easier to understand. [7]
- AWB will stop adding
using AWB
in the edit summary. Instead it will add a tag that saysAWB
. [8] - Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says
Deprecated. Use ... instead
. An example isarticle_text
which is nowpage_title
. [9] - Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is
page_age
. [10] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 August. It will be on all wikis from 30 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 August at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
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16:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 30 August 2018
- From the editor: Today's young adults don't know a world without Wikipedia
- News and notes: Flying high; low practice from Wikipedia 'cleansing' agency; where do our donations go? RfA sees a new trend
- In the media: Quicksilver AI writes articles
- Discussion report: Drafting an interface administrator policy
- Featured content: Featured content selected by the community
- Special report: Wikimania 2018
- Traffic report: Aretha dies – getting just 2,000 short of 5 million hits
- Technology report: Technical enhancements and a request to prioritize upcoming work
- Recent research: Wehrmacht on Wikipedia, neural networks writing biographies
- Humour: Signpost editor censors herself
- From the archives: Playing with Wikipedia words
Enrolling in CVU training ?
I was wondering how I would go about enrolling in counter-vandalism training? Zubin12 (talk) 22:54, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Zubin12: By asking on a trainer's talk page. I'm a little busy in real life at the moment (and will probably be busy on all weekdays moving forward, so I apologize in advance for unexpected delays); however, I'd be willing to create a CVUA page for you this weekend, if you'd like. Mz7 (talk) 23:28, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- I would love for one of those pages, thanks for helping even though you are busy.Zubin12 (talk) 23:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Zubin12, I've created your page at User:Mz7/CVUA/Zubin12 with your first assignment. Feel free to start whenever you are ready. Mz7 (talk) 23:58, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- Mz7 Thanks, I've finished my first assignment.Zubin12 (talk) 06:13, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- Zubin12, I've created your page at User:Mz7/CVUA/Zubin12 with your first assignment. Feel free to start whenever you are ready. Mz7 (talk) 23:58, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- I would love for one of those pages, thanks for helping even though you are busy.Zubin12 (talk) 23:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).
- None
- Asterion • Crisco 1492 • KF • Kudpung • Liz • Randykitty • Spartaz
- Optimist on the run → Voice of Clam
Interface administrator changes
- Amorymeltzer • Mr. Stradivarius • MusikAnimal • MSGJ • TheDJ • Xaosflux
- Following a "stop-gap" discussion, six users have temporarily been made interface administrators while discussion is ongoing for a more permanent process for assigning the permission. Interface administrators are now the only editors allowed to edit sitewide CSS and JavaScript pages, as well as CSS/JS pages in another user's userspace. Previously, all administrators had this ability. The right can be granted and revoked by bureaucrats.
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
- Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says
Deprecated. Use ... instead
. An example isarticle_text
which is nowpage_title
. - Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is
page_age
.
- The Arbitration Committee has resolved to perform a round of Checkuser and Oversight appointments. The usernames of all applicants will be shared with the Functionaries team, and they will be requested to assist in the vetting process. The deadline to submit an application is 23:59 UTC, 12 September, and the candidates that move forward will be published on-wiki for community comments on 18 September.
101.10.82.135
Please block user:101.10.82.135 because she in continuously edit warring. CLCStudent (talk) 00:45, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done Mz7 (talk) 00:52, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
FYI, this IP has been jumping in a range
Please see this AN3 which I just closed. I tried a /18 range block which includes the single IP 109.144.215.115 that you blocked earlier today. Perhaps the simplest solution might be to permanently semiprotect the 2017–18 Premier League article. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:57, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is a new user right for users who can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. Before this all admins could edit CSS and JavaScript. This was a security risk. This group is called interface administrators. Administrators can delete user CSS and JavaScript pages. [11][12]
- There will be an A/B test on the Wikipedia mobile website. It starts this week. It tests how we show templates that show information about an article. The test will last two weeks. [13][14]
- You can now use different CSS rules for different skins when you edit templates. This is because of TemplateStyles. [15]
wp10
in ORES is now calledarticlequality
. [16]- When you get a new message on your talk page you get a yellow message in the toolbar. The preference to show or not show this has been removed. [17]
Problems
- UploadWizard had problems with campaigns. Users could not upload files. This has now been fixed. [18]
- You can get a notification when a link is made to a page you created. This has not worked since June. It was fixed last week. [19]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 September. It will be on all wikis from 6 September (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department will work on advanced mobile editing. You can read more about this and other things they plan to work on over the next year. You can also see the presentation.
- The RelatedSites extension will be removed from Wikivoyage.
- Unused projects on the Wikimedia Cloud virtual private server will be removed. This will happen in October. Projects can be marked if they are being used. [20]
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16:47, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
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- @Knightrises10: Just want to let you know that I have seen your email and am preparing a response. Sorry for the delay. Mz7 (talk) 16:20, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: reply sent Mz7 (talk) 21:57, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Adding things to an article
WP:DENY Mz7 (talk) 16:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC) |
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I want to add something to an article but two people and even one guy gathering a group of people backing up there claim on if something was relevant. But can seem to get through to them. If I edit the article then I could be banned. Please help me. Also block HorseareReal because she is vandalizing the Hurricane Irene page in the retirement section. The statement was proven relevant but they want to ignore me. Flasty Jam 2 (talk) 00:28, 9 September 2018 (UTC) @Flasty Jam 2: HOW IN THE WORLD AN I VANDALIZING THE HURRICANE IRENE PAGE IN THE RETIREMENT SECTION? YOU’RE THE ONE VANDALIZING! In fact, YOU’RE the one who should be blocked for all the disruptive editing. And if your information is relevant, then you need to prove it! Also I am not a female. I’m male. Think horses are only for females? HorsesARENiceRide me to my talk page 13:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC) |
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you added or edited a template with the visual editor the input boxes were very big. This has been fixed. The input boxes will now be smaller until you click on them. Then they will change size to fit the text. [21]
Problems
- Some diffs showed lines in the wrong order. This was fixed last week. [22]
- Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed. [23]
<maplink>
did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed. [24]{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected. [25]- When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this. [26]
Changes later this week
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
- Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 Septmber at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The developers work on making the wikis work better on mobile phones. There is a list of common problems when making content easier to read in the mobile view. You can add things to the page and ask others to help.
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22:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
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Vandalism-only account
BeryAb (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) It's deliberate introduction of factual errors, i.e. vandalism, and it is with all probability not their first account (they sent me thanks through the messaging system after I posted the final warning, just to mock me...). Their very first edits, a series of three edits on Ethiopia, show they're adding made-up random numbers: first changing Gini from 33.6 to 6.8, then changing 6.8 to 6.6, and then changing 6.6 to 33.2, and in this edit on Denmark they changed HDI year and change from 2017/increase to 2018/decrease, without changing the number (which is an impossibility, if the number didn't change it would be level with the previous year, not a decrease...). And in their edits on Religion in Ethiopia that I provided a diff for in my AIV-report they changed the stats to totally random numbers. So I have absolutely no doubt about it being deliberate vandalism, just for fun. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 20:12, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Thomas.W: Thanks for this clarification. After reviewing your diffs, it does look like they are just randomly switching around numbers. I've blocked them on this basis. Mz7 (talk) 01:39, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Should we protect this page?
A large number of IP edit this page Moeen Ali, changing birthplace from Azad Kashmir to Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, although the former is the official name. I suspect this to be vandalism as PoK is a name used in India, and is considered offensive in Pakistan. Same as Indian-occupied Kashmir, a name given by Pakistan, is considered inappropriate in India. So I just wanted to know if a page protection should be needed. I did not request it since I was a bit unsure. Asking you will make me learn more. Regards - Knightrises10 (talk) 19:40, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Knightrises10: Unfortunately, I’m not an expert in this area, so I don’t think I’m the right person to talk to to determine whether this is vandalism. According to the Azad Kashmir article, there is a longstanding dispute between India and Pakistan regarding the territory—see the first footnote, which does mention the phrase PoK. I’m inclined to call this disruptive editing rather than vandalism, and I would be careful about 3RR. Page protection might be appropriate, since there seems to be a slow moving edit war about it, and “Azad Kashmir” seems to be the most stable and neutral version. Mz7 (talk) 02:32, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
I requested protection for disruptive edits, and it was then protected by an admin. Thanks for clarifying that it's disruptive edit. Knightrises10 (talk) 21:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. Images uploaded using Nearby are now automatically added to the associated Wikidata item. You can browse other images on Commons. You can see your achievements and your upload statistics. It has also fixed some bugs. [27]
- MediaWiki web requests now have a time limit of 60 seconds for GET requests and 200 seconds for POST requests. [28]
Problems
- You could not see the menu on the notifications page on the mobile version. This has now been fixed. [29]
Changes later this week
- Special:AncientPages can hide disambiguation pages. [30]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 September. It will be on all wikis from 20 September (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The developers are testing new mobile web navigation. You can use it and give feedback.
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21:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello Mz7, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.
- Project news
- The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
- As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
- There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Coordinator tasks for more info to see if you can help out.
- Other
- A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.
- Moving to Draft and Page Mover
- Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
- If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
- Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
- The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
- The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
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Bay Area WikiSalon invitation for September 26!
Periodically, on the last Wednesday evening of the month, wiki enthusiasts gather at the Bay Area WikiSalon series to munch, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
We allow time for announcements, informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Bring a friend! Kid/family friendly. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. This months' focus is Did you know ... ?
We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks (maybe pizza too!).
- Details and RSVP here (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)
See you soon! Avik (User:Quantumavik), Lodewijk (User:Effeietsanders), Ben Creasy (User:Ben Creasy), Stephen (User:Slaporte), and Wayne (User:Checkingfax)
206.78.194.93
206.78.194.93 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
Hi,
Looking at the block log for this IP, was this your intended block duration? Thanks. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:131:311A:C2DC:1BAF (talk) 23:51, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, it was. I thought about doing another years-long block, but I noticed that the last block expired all the way back in January, and there hasn't been any vandalism since. Thought I might ramp up slowly again. Mz7 (talk) 00:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The preferences form will change to use the standard look. If you see any problems please report them on Phabricator. [31]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 September. It will be on all wikis from 27 September (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 26 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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15:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Added content, linking person
I am linking the dubbing artists...who have dubbed in kannada movies......those people are in wikipedia also.......why are u removing the link......! They are the real dubbing artists seriously...! Dont delete it .....its just adding the truth! Of dubbing artists!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.66.143.97 (talk) 12:50, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Last call for RSVPs for Wednesday evening
Hey, folks. Reminder: Wednesday evening at 6 is the Bay Area WikiSalon series.
- Details and RSVP here (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)
See you soon! Avik (User:Quantumavik), Lodewijk (User:Effeietsanders), Ben Creasy (User:Ben Creasy), Stephen (User:Slaporte), and Wayne (User:Checkingfax)
Hembree (band)
Hi. On 20 September 2018, you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hembree (band) with a soft delete; yet the day before editor KCVelaga in this edit of 19 September 2018 removed the AFD notice saying AFD closed as no consensus (XFDcloser). What's going on? Looking at the article's references, it looks like a case of "lack of substantive coverage", but maybe arguable. Anyway, what happened? (You may answer here.) --Bejnar (talk) 04:18, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Bejnar. Ah, I can see why your confused. KCVelaga originally closed the discussion as "no consensus". I thought that soft delete would be a better outcome, so after discussing it with KCVelaga, KCVelaga agreed to reopen the discussion, which I then closed as soft delete. A few hours after I closed the discussion as soft delete, Musicman211 (talk · contribs) requested that the article be undeleted at WP:REFUND, which administrator C.Fred granted. In summary: the AfD was closed as no consensus, was re-opened, then closed as soft-delete, then undeleted on request at WP:REFUND. Mz7 (talk) 04:26, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
The Signpost: 1 October 2018
- From the editor: Is this the new normal?
- News and notes: European copyright law moves forward
- In the media: Knowledge under fire
- Discussion report: Interface Admin policy proposal, part 2
- Arbitration report: A quiet month for Arbcom
- Technology report: Paying attention to your mobile
- Gallery: A pat on the back
- Recent research: How talk page use has changed since 2005; censorship shocks lead to centralization; is vandalism caused by workplace boredom?
- Humour: Signpost Crossword Puzzle
- Essay: Expressing thanks
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Ordinary pages can no longer be loaded as javascript. You could do this using
?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript
in the URL. Only fully protected pages in the MediaWiki: namespace or user javascript subpages can be loaded as javascript now. This is for better security. [32][33]
Problems
- New and updated translations from translatewiki.net will not reach the wikis for a while. You can still translate messages on translatewiki.net. The Wikimedia wikis will be updated with the new translations later. This is because of work on the translation system. [34][35]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 October. It will be on all wikis from 4 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the meeting with the Wikimedia Foundation Search Platform team. The meeting will be on 3 October at 15:00 UTC. See how to join if you want to know how the search function works or have questions.
Future changes
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
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17:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Your essay User:Mz7/Core admin rights
Hey! I just read your essay. I had always thought that page protection rights could be a good choice. But after going through it, I have realized why it is not a good option and that it should remain with the administrators. I appreciate your thinking :-) Regards, Knightrises10 (talk) 10:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018).
- Justlettersandnumbers • L235
- Bgwhite • HorsePunchKid • J Greb • KillerChihuahua • Rami R • Winhunter
Interface administrator changes
- Cyberpower678 • Deryck Chan • Oshwah • Pharos • Ragesoss • Ritchie333
- Guerillero • NativeForeigner • Snowolf • Xeno
- Following a request for comment, the process for appointing interface administrators has been established. Currently only existing admins can request these rights, while a new RfC has begun on whether it should be available to non-admins.
- There is an open request for comment on Meta regarding the creation a new user group for global edit filter management.
- Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
- The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team is currently looking for input on how to measure the effectiveness of blocks. This is in particular related to how they will measure the success of the aforementioned partial blocks.
- Because of a data centre test, you will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia projects for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time.
- The Arbitration Committee has, by motion, amended the procedure on functionary inactivity.
- The community consultation for 2018 CheckUser and Oversight appointments has concluded. Appointments will be made by October 11.
- Following a request for comment, the size of the Arbitration Committee will be decreased to 13 arbitrators, starting in 2019. Additionally, the minimum support percentage required to be appointed to a two-year term on ArbCom has been increased to 60%. ArbCom candidates who receive between 50% and 60% support will be appointed to one-year terms instead.
- Nominations for the 2018 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission are being accepted until 12 October. These are the editors who help run the ArbCom election smoothly. If you are interested in volunteering for this role, please consider nominating yourself.
Administrators' newsletter – October 2018
@Mz7: just to report a small mistake in the newsletter: There is an open request for comment on Meta regarding the creation a new user group for global edit filter management should read: There is an open request for comment on Meta regarding the creation of a new user group for global edit filter management. Right? Thnks. Lotje (talk) 04:45, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Lotje: Facepalm . Ah shoot, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't catch that as I was going over the newsletter. I've fixed the typo in the newsletter archive, but unfortunately, since we substitute the newsletter when we send it out, we won't be able to correct the typo on individual user talk pages. :( Mz7 (talk) 05:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Mz7: no problem, I changed it on mine up so nobody will notice (I guess) Lotje (talk) 05:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. You can use the Programs and Events Dashboard or the Fountain instead. [36]
Problems
- There was a problem when you copied and pasted from a table with the visual editor. It could add
href
where it shouldn't be. This has now been fixed. [37]
Changes later this week
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
- Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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23:38, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Counter Vandalism Training request
Hi, I see that you have a slot open for counter vandalism training. I currently use Twinkle a bit, and look at the 'Recent changes' page with a couple of filters to try and do my bit, but I'd be eager to learn how I could work more efficiently to make more of a difference. I'm in the UK, so quite far from your time zone, but you're the only person who's had a slot open in the last few weeks so I thought I'd ask. Would you be willing to help me learn the ropes? Thanks, GirthSummit (blether) 11:43, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Girth Summit: Let's do it. Just a heads up, I've been a little busy in real life lately, so I apologize in advance for delays in providing feedback on responses. I've created your course page at User:Mz7/CVUA/Girth Summit – the first questions are pretty basic: what is the difference between a good faith edit and vandalism? Let me know if you have any questions! Mz7 (talk) 22:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! No worries about being busy - I'm happy to go along at a pace that works for both of us. I've had a look at the page you created, and it seems to make sense. I'll work on the questions, but I'll probably do it piecemeal as I gather the diffs it's asking for - I'll let you know when I'm done. Thanks again. GirthSummit (blether) 06:25, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Done - please see my responses at User:Mz7/CVUA/Girth Summit. GirthSummit (blether) 12:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Girth Summit, great! I'll take a look later today. Mz7 (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- I've finished responded to the next round of questions. (Is it useful for me to tell you here when I'm finished by the way?)GirthSummit (blether) 10:54, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Girth Summit: Sorry for my delay. In the future, feel free to just ping me by adding a link to my username in your responses at the course page (or by using the {{ping}} template). As you probably already know, this sends a notification to my user account, so you don't have to leave a user talk page message every time. You're responses have been much more in-depth than I'm used to seeing, and I really appreciate that! I'll leave some feedback tonight. Mz7 (talk) 22:49, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- Understood - I'll ping you from the training page in future. Thanks! GirthSummit (blether) 23:55, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Girth Summit: Sorry for my delay. In the future, feel free to just ping me by adding a link to my username in your responses at the course page (or by using the {{ping}} template). As you probably already know, this sends a notification to my user account, so you don't have to leave a user talk page message every time. You're responses have been much more in-depth than I'm used to seeing, and I really appreciate that! I'll leave some feedback tonight. Mz7 (talk) 22:49, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- I've finished responded to the next round of questions. (Is it useful for me to tell you here when I'm finished by the way?)GirthSummit (blether) 10:54, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- Girth Summit, great! I'll take a look later today. Mz7 (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Done - please see my responses at User:Mz7/CVUA/Girth Summit. GirthSummit (blether) 12:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! No worries about being busy - I'm happy to go along at a pace that works for both of us. I've had a look at the page you created, and it seems to make sense. I'll work on the questions, but I'll probably do it piecemeal as I gather the diffs it's asking for - I'll let you know when I'm done. Thanks again. GirthSummit (blether) 06:25, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Some pages, edits and users disappeared for a short while after the server switch. Missing content and users was fixed within a day. Some preferences and other things might take a few more days to fix. [38]
- Wikis are updated with new and updated translations from translatewiki.net again. This will happen once a week. The developers are working on fixing the problem so we can have translation updates more often again. [39]
Changes later this week
- When you create an abuse filter that prevents edits you can now write a specific error message for it. Before this all abuse filters that prevented edits had the same error message. [40]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 October. It will be on all wikis from 18 October (calendar).
Meetings
- There will be no more meetings with the Editing team. This is because not enough Wikimedians were interested. To tell developers which bugs you think are the most important you can use Phabricator as normal. [41]
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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22:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Rollback rights
Thank you Mz7 for granting Rollback access. --Gpkp (u • t • c) 10:29, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
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Hello Mz7, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
- Backlog
As of 21 October 2018[update], there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
- Community Wishlist Proposal
- There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
- Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!
- Project updates
- ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
- There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
- New scripts
- User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js(info) — A new script created for quickly placing {{copyvio-revdel}} on a page.
Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 20:49, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
RevDel request on Wikipedia:Help desk
There has been some recent vandalism on Wikipedia:Help desk, K6ka has deleted most of it but forgot to delete this partial reversion. I beleive the revision meets RD2 - Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material. Please delete this revision. Danski454 (talk) 20:05, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- Upadte: zzuuzz has noticed and deleted it. Danski454 (talk) 20:12, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 October. It will be on all wikis from 25 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
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23:11, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
For your incredible patience here and elsewhere. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 00:14, 23 October 2018 (UTC) |
- @L235: Thank you for the barnstar! (I had seen this a few days ago, thought to myself "I'm gonna reply to that tonight", then promptly forgot about it until now.) Mz7 (talk) 02:48, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- @L235: You forgot to link to elsewhere —usernamekiran(talk) 01:13, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Redeletion of page of A. Srinivasa murthy
Hello. This is a acquaintance of Mr srinivasa murthy and I would like you to redelete the page of Mr. Srinivasa murthy as I would like to make further changes to it and keep making regular updates of his projects. It would be of great help if you could restore the link to his page. The reference was from the nandi award winners for best male dubbing artists. Hes even donw few films now so which qualifies him for having a wiki page. Would be a great help of you if you could get back to me as soon as possible. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nanisharma1 (talk • contribs)
- @Nanisharma1: Hi. Instead of creating an article directly, I would suggest creating a draft first: Draft:A. Srinivasa Murthy, and go through process of WP:AFC. It will be lot more convenient. Also, kindly read WP:NCREATIVE. It is the notability guidelines applicable to Murthy. If you have any more doubts/questions, please feel free to ask. —usernamekiran(talk) 01:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
I was searching someone to give an anti-vandalism barnstar to, and you were the best one i could find..... B. N .D | ✉ 08:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC) |
The Signpost: 28 October 2018
- From the editors: The Signpost is still afloat, just barely
- News and notes: WMF gets a million bucks
- In the media: Bans, celebs, and bias
- Discussion report: Mediation Committee and proposed deletion reform
- Traffic report: Unsurprisingly, sport leads the field – or the ring
- Technology report: Bots galore!
- Special report: NPP needs you
- Special report 2: Now Wikidata is six
- In focus: Alexa
- Gallery: Out of this world!
- Recent research: Wikimedia Commons worth $28.9 billion
- Humour: Talk page humour
- Opinion: Strickland incident
- From the archives: The Gardner Interview
Your recent edits of the Gab wikipedia entry page in response to Edit Warring
Thanks for your application of the 'disputed content' label. I'm new to Wikipedia editing (only tried anonymously once or twice before) but have enjoyed using Wikipedia for years as well as contributed more than once financially in response to the annual pleas by the founder Jimmy Wales(?).
Now to my question: I tried to make two edits today to the Gab page. Both edits were reverted. Twice. Unreasonably in my opinion (see the history log). Not only is this discouraging to a would-be new contributor (perhaps that is the point?), it has somewhat lowered my estimation of Wikipedia's 'Neutral Point of View' several notches.
In reviewing the "Talk" page for Gab's entry, I see that I was a bit naive in thinking a simple entry by a newly registered user would correct this negative bias. My observations were not new, and the issue of bias has been discussed for some time. However, when I attempted to discuss potential modifications with the person who reversed my entry, their response was to allege 'sock puppet vandalism' etc. I find this unhelpful. Do you have recommendations on how to continue to contribute or should I just take the hint and write off Wikipedia?
Secondly, despite the label of 'current events may change rapidly' regarding the Synagogue shooting, mention of Gab's email to users reiterating Gab's opposition to violence of any kind has been deleted twice. This despite reference to Medium and NPR mention of the same statement. Only reason mentioned in the talk section? WP:RS. I understand the importance of avoiding 'Fake news' by relying on vetted sources, but in this case, not only did I have personal knowledge (received the email myself) but it was reported by NPR, so I find it ironic that fellow Wikipedia editors would block mention of it in a rapidly changing news area. In other words, this blockage of content favorable to Gab appears to indicate bias against Gab, and thus decreases Wikipedia credibility.
What would you recommend as a next step of resolution? No compromise or attempt to address my (or others) concerns of bias appears forthcoming, yet I don't want to engage in a Edit War if it will result in me being banned (although the effect of not being "BOLD" (per Wikipedia) is having the same affect as being banned. I welcome your honest insight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DellAnderson (talk • contribs) 03:36, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hi DellAnderson, thanks for reaching out. I have to say, I think these kind of discussions are the most challenging areas of Wikipedia to work in. It can be discouraging even for experienced editors; I can only imagine how it must feel as a new editor. I also think the accusation of vandalism is unhelpful, and I'll note that a couple editors have given feedback on that issue on the article's request for page protection.
- I think the best way forward at this stage is to participate in the discussions at Talk:Gab (social network) and other talk pages, and try to work towards a consensus for specific changes. I know it's frustrating to have your edits reversed by other editors, but I think the healthiest approach is to see them as fellow editors who also want to produce a neutral article that fairly and proportionately reflects what reliable sources say. I can see that the editor Grayfell has left a response to your most recent comment on the talk page. Continue discussing and see if there is middle ground for a consensus; Grayfell agreed that "Gab is a reliable source for Gab" (and I'll observe that the NPR source probably qualifies as a secondary source in this context). Their objection is now more along the lines of it being redundant to content already in the article.
- As a side note, please try to sign your talk page comments by adding four tildes (
~~~~
) to the end of your comments. The software will automatically convert the tildes to your username and a timestamp when you submit your comment. All the best, Mz7 (talk) 04:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks so much Mz7. I apologize for the non-signature, it was a complete oversight. I tried to go back and add it but got an 'edit conflict' warning! Lesson learned. I will read editor Grayfell's response and give it some thought. I hope that fellow editors understand that I cannot always reply in real time and that the important thing is quality rather than speed. Thank you.DellAnderson (talk) 16:35, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Template:Proposed deletion notify-NPF
You were right to revert.Have redesigned, yet again:-)
Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Example and it's nice to meet you:-)
- See this pdf and the associated findings on Meta.
- It adds quite a personal flavor to the note.
it meets one of the relevant criterion.
- To provide a handy link that is short but comprehensive. Criterion for inclusion is a bit vague because there does not exist any documentation of that sort (other than huge pages).
- Linking of edit-summary.
- Most newcomers don't have an idea about what the edit-summary is and that it's highly prudential to use them.There was some research, (located at Meta but I am not getting it, at the moment), that asserted this.
and ping me.
- This has been asked at the list of improvements to page-curation.We have a tendency to continue the same discussion at a part, venue, rather than jumping across t/p(s)
- I will see whether it's possible to generate a ping template that can be plainly copied and pasted:-)∯WBGconverse 13:20, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Editing through protection
You added a NPOV tag after protecting the article yourself. That is not something that administrators should do (WP:WRONGVERSION). Please restore the article to the state it was in when you protected it. Volunteer Marek 19:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
And actually, why in the world did you fully protect it? The problems were being caused by a few red linked accounts with just a few edits. Semi-protection would've been sufficient. Can you change it to semi please? Volunteer Marek 19:24, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Volunteer Marek: I added the NPOV tag because there were already neutrality concerns on the talk page made by other users that I wanted the edit-warring editors to participate in, not because I personally had an opinion on whether the article was neutral. At the time, I thought that this would have been fairly uncontroversial, but I can see where your objection is coming from as well (it looks like I might be taking a side). I'm at a loss because I also think there are outstanding NPOV disputes on the talk page, so I'm not sure removing the tag would be the best idea at the moment.
- I fully protected the article because, in my view, there was a content dispute occurring between many different accounts, some of which are established users. Full protection was also suggested at RFPP. Now that talk page discussion is ongoing, and the editors that were reverting each other are now participating in it, I don't think it's a terrible idea to reduce it to semi-protection, leave a few warnings, and see what happens... I'll think about this over lunch. The goal here is to stop edit warring; do you think the edit war would resume if I lowered the protection at this point? Mz7 (talk) 20:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- I came to that article expecting edit wars, endless discussions that go nowhere and an onslaught of new accounts. I see none of that. Disruption in my experience comes from a small percent of editors who see wikipedia as a way to frame emerging narratives. They slant an article to favor one side, then editors from the other side push back and the situation escalates until blocks end up settling content disputes. It's a big waste of time and your quick protection circumvented all of that, so thank you. D.Creish (talk) 20:13, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Can we add a warning like this to the talk page? D.Creish (talk) 21:39, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- @D.Creish: Are you referring to {{Ds/talk notice}}? It is possible, since discussions on that page relate to post-1932 politics of the United States—see WP:ARBAPDS. Mz7 (talk) 23:22, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks. Have I done it right? D.Creish (talk) 02:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- @D.Creish: Looks fine. Mz7 (talk) 03:45, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks. Have I done it right? D.Creish (talk) 02:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- @D.Creish: Are you referring to {{Ds/talk notice}}? It is possible, since discussions on that page relate to post-1932 politics of the United States—see WP:ARBAPDS. Mz7 (talk) 23:22, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Mz7, it's not up to you to decide whether there are "neutrality concerns" on the talk page or not. Some "neutrality concerns" are just spurious WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT and by adding the tag you're making yourself WP:INVOLVED by taking a part in the dispute. Admins should NOT edit through protection that they themselves put in place except in cases of obvious vandalism or basic clean up.
As for full vs. semi protection, yes established accounts were "involved". That's because the "dispute" was "established accounts" vs. fly-by-night newly created accounts. It makes no sense to fully protect in such a situation. You're giving the disruptive accounts exactly what they want. Volunteer Marek 14:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can post proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals until 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
- The wikis now have a content security policy report. This means that you might get a warning in your javascript console when you load external resources in your user scripts. For security reasons it is recommended that you don't do this. It might not be possible to load external resources in your scripts in the future. [42]
Problems
- Your watchlist can show which changes you have already seen. This did not work for a few days. It has been fixed. [43]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 October. It will be on all wikis from 1 November (calendar).
- The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer available. It will be removed from Special:Preferences. It has not been the standard editor for a long time. It was replaced by the 2010 wikitext editor. [44][45]
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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Structured Innovation
Hi Mz7,
I would like to know what I should do keep my page from being removed. I have added an introductory article on Structured Innovation which has never existed before.
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enzaga (talk • contribs) 08:32, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Counter Vandalism Training
Could you be my Counter Vandalism Trainer? I saw your name in the CVU Academy listings. Please get back to me as soon as possible. Pablothepenguin (talk) 19:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
@Mz7:
How to post picture HPEV Solar Fuel Cell picture?
I currently have the coding language of "Image: ... .jpg" but this does not seem to render properly. Kind thanks for all of the feed back, friend. -Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertBercovitz (talk • contribs) 19:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2018).
- A request for comment determined that non-administrators will not be able to request interface admin access.
- A request for comment is in progress to determine whether the Mediation Committee should be closed and marked as historical.
- A village pump discussion has been ongoing about whether the proposed deletion policy (PROD) should be clarified or amended.
- A request for comment is in progress to determine whether pending changes protection should be applied automatically to today's featured article (TFA) in order to mitigate a recent trend of severe image vandalism.
- Partial blocks is now available for testing on the Test Wikipedia. The new functionality allows you to block users from editing specific pages. Bugs may exist and can be reported on the local talk page or on Meta. A discussion regarding deployment to English Wikipedia will be started by community liaisons sometime in the near future.
- A user script is now available to quickly review unblock requests.
- The 2019 Community Wishlist Survey is now accepting new proposals until November 11, 2018. The results of this survey will determine what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year. Voting on the proposals will take place from November 16 to November 30, 2018. Specifically, there is a proposal category for admins and stewards that may be of interest.
- Eligible editors will be invited to nominate themselves as candidates in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections starting on November 4 until November 13. Voting will begin on November 19 and last until December 2.
- The Arbitration Committee's email address has changed to arbcom-enwikimedia.org. Other email lists, such as functionaries-en and clerks-l, remain unchanged.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use TemplateWizard to edit templates. This works only with the 2010 wikitext editor and not in the visual editor or the 2017 wikitext editor. If you click on you can enter the information in a pop-up. You can turn on TemplateWizard in your beta feature preferences. [46]
Changes later this week
- You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. The interface for the two-column edit conflict will change. You can read more.
- When you edit with the visual editor you can use the "Automatic" citation tab. This helps you generate citations. You will now be able to write plain text citations or the title of a journal article or a book in this tab. This will search the Crossref and WorldCat databases and add the top result. [47]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 November. It will be on all wikis from 8 November (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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17:28, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Lovely close
Thank you. Lourdes 14:41, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Also. In particular , it should be of great help to future arb coms. I will call it to the attention of the committee on our list. DGG ( talk ) 19:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @DGG: What? How is what Mz7 said not WP:COMMONSENSE? Are you telling me that this is new information to ArbCom and that it took a needlessly long "discussion" and a pretty standard close for them to see that? Nihlus 12:58, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- II know it 'seems strange that the one body in WP in a position to apply IAR by the objective criterion of a vote has generally been unwilling to do so. Thinking back over previous discussions there, the detail in this close will be enough that it will guide how this is approached. (In earlier years, it might not even have done that, but this year's arb com is the most realistically flexible of the 4 I've experienced.) DGG ( talk ) 20:46, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
help for closing a proposal
Hi Mz7 Greetings to you. I would like to request your assistance in closing a 10 day old proposal (NOT by me) at UFC Fight Card Template - A minor change as an involved admin. Thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:30, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Done. (And I hope you meant as an uninvolved admin.) Mz7 (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Mz7, thank you very much and yes I meant "uninvolved" admin. cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 23:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Some old mobile browsers can use the watchlist again. This has not worked for a while. These browsers are called grade C browsers. This helps for example Windows Phone 8.1 with Internet Explorer and Lumia 535 with Windows 10. [48]
Problems
- You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. Users who use this view saw the edit conflict resolution page when they wanted to see a preview. This has been fixed. [49][50][51]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 November. It will be on all wikis from 15 November (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can use the content translation tool to translate articles. The developers are working on a new version. One of the changes will be a maintenance category. Articles where users add a lot of text from machine translation without changing it will be in that category. This is so the community can review it. The users will also have been warned before they publish the article that it has a lot of unchanged text from machine translations. [52]
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19:22, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Counter Vandalism request
Can you please be my Trainer for the WP:CVUA for me, thanks. Sheldybett (talk) 23:52, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. |
Hello Mz7,
- Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
- Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.
- If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
- We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
- With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.
Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)18:37, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder/Evidence. Please add your evidence by November 27, 2018, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, --Cameron11598 (Talk) 21:01, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Mz7,
I sent you a mail some few days ago. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:49, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Ammarpad: Hi, sorry about the delay. I've seen it and am working on a response. Mz7 (talk) 08:53, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Okay. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Ammarpad: Reply sent. Mz7 (talk) 01:21, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Okay. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
CVU training
Hello, I would like to enroll in your counter vandalism training. A 10 fireplane (talk) 17:10, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can vote on proposals in the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can vote until 30 November.
- There is an A/B test for
sameAs
data. This is to make it easier to find the right information with a search engine. This changes the metadata for a wiki page. It doesn't change how the page looks. [53]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia wikis use templates to show readers there are problems with the content on some pages. For example if there are no sources or the page needs to be rewritten. The mobile website will soon show more information when you use these templates. Some templates may need to be updated. [54]
- The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. The database tables used by the extension will be archived. This will happen in a month. If you want the information on your wiki you should move it to a normal wiki page. [55]
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23:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
ArbCom 2018 election voter message
Hello, Mz7. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Page not getting accepted and repeatedly showing error
Hello Administrator,
I am trying to create a page by the name Classic Marble Company. But everytime, I am posting a draft of the same, either the page is getting deleted or the post is not getting accepted. Can you kindly assist me with creating the page for Classic Marble Company? If possible, please kindly share with us the solution to this existing problem.
Waiting for your quick revert regarding the same.
Regards, AdyaTiwari — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adyatiwari (talk • contribs) 12:48, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've posted a COI warning and guidance on this user's talk page and on that of an likely associated account, I'll block both if the warning is ignored Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:30, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Fake "Wipeout Pakistan" still in the Wikipedia
The article Wipeout_Pakistan?oldid=669636788 was deleted by you, but this most likely non-existent show is still listed in Wipeout_(2008_U.S._game_show) and in the articles about other national "Wipeout" versions :(
88.147.174.10 (talk) 20:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I’ve removed the listing from the U.S. article. Mz7 (talk) 20:47, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
CVU Training
Hey Mz7, I was recently denied for rollback as they said I need experience at counter vandalism that I can take at CVU academy.So can you please enroll me in your training as your student?Denim11 (talk) 03:37, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Denim11. Unfortunately, I have a backlog of requests that I still need to get back to. I don't think I will be free enough in real life and on Wikipedia to take you on at this time. If you are willing to wait, I think I will have more free time in about a month, towards the end of December. Mz7 (talk) 07:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Ok then I shall look for a new trainer but there are only two trainers in the academy if I don’t get a trainer by a month I will look for you.Denim11 (talk) 08:57, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- On wikis with translatable pages you could create a mess when you moved a page that had translatable subpages. A subpage is when you use
/
to create a new page:/wiki/Page/Subpage
. The subpages would be moved but not the translations. The subpages are no longer automatically be moved. This is to make it safer to move pages. [56]
Changes later this week
- The advanced search interface will be available by default on all Wikimedia wikis. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist. It's already active on German, Farsi, Arabic and Hungarian Wikipedia. [57]
- Special:UnusedCategories show empty categories with no files or other categories. You can soon choose to not show soft redirect categories or some maintenance categories there. You can do this with the magic word
__EXPECTUNUSEDCATEGORY__
. [58] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 November. It will be on all wikis from 29 November (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 28 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The
mw.util.jsMessage()
function was deprecated in 2012. It will be removed next week. Look for the warningUse of "mw.util.jsMessage" is deprecated
in the JavaScript console to know if you use an affected script or gadget. If you are a gadget maintainer you should check if your JavaScript code containsmw.util.jsMessage
. There is a migration guide. It explains how to usemw.notify
instead. [59]
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22:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)