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September 2024

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October/November 2024

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Hi Mr.Shadow514,

You've been here for two months now, I hope you like it here. As you probably have noticed, some of your edits are reverted. Have you taken the time to get to know the guidelines? You might learn a thing or two. And like I said in our previous discussion, you seem to be into video games and there is an active WikiProject that aims to improve video game-related material.

In this edit, you wrote a correct edit summary: there is no correlation between critical reception and financial success. Shitty films make a ton of money all the time, right? Well, you added the word 'but', stating that despite its poor reception it did make money. But those two things aren't connected, 'but' suggests there is.

Software is written in the present tense. RenderWare still is a video game engine, even if nobody uses it anymore.

A common error you'll see often is mixed to negative, or mixed to positive. Mixed doesn't mean 'medium', 'mediocre', 'middle of the road', but means both positive and negative.

Please take a look at the guidelines, you'll learn a thing or two. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which guideline are you referring to? Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 11:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You don't see the colored lettering in the word 'guidelines'? I made what is called a piped link to WP:MOS, which is a wikilink to the guidelines. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 11:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, i see. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 11:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Anyways, when your saying something on paragraph 2, even though you do agree what the summary says, when you switched back from "but" to "and", your making it appear like mixed reception and box-office faliure are similar, and that's not how it works. Just sayin. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 14:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's two separate things, critical reception and box-office performance. If you like, you can also make it into two sentences: 'it was a critical failure. It was a box-office success' or something similar. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 18:21, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mr.Shadow514, I explained before that adding a small word like 'but' changes the meaning of sentence. So you were right to remove 'also'. Pitbull is an American, born to Cuban parents. Describing his work, do not unnecessarily call him Cuban-American. Asking another user if they think if "it would be really cool if all the old 3D Sonic games would be playable on PS4/PS5 through emulation" is not what a user talk page is for. Wikipedia is not a social media site. Talk pages, including other users' talk pages, are intended to help build a better Wikipedia. Since it's their talk page, I'll leave it up to Sergecross73. I have to ask you again to please, take a moment to familiarise yourself with the guidelines. Or check out the WP:WELCOME page. You might learn a thing or two! And if you can't find your way around, you can ask a question at the WP:TEAHOUSE, or ask me or another friendly editor. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, but anyways regading from the beginning, what's wrong with Cuban-American? Other articles from the album does that and it's his Spanish album. And besides, he can be called whenever he wants.Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 13:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because cultural heritage, ethnic background, skin color, sexuality, religion, etc. isn't necessary to mention. See WP:NATIONALITY. What do you mean, "he can be called whenever he wants"? soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 13:24, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He's notable for being a Cuban-American. You can't be strict over every single thing. It doesn't work like that. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 14:25, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I pointed you to a relevant guideline. Articles do not unnecessarily mention ethnicity. You're free not to agree with it, but ignoring it is considered disruptive. Have you taken the time to check out the guidelines yet? soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at the Guideline. It only implies that the guidelines are about the any actors themselves, not about albums articles. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 14:35, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That would be common sense, if a main article about a person doesn't mention it, any work they created wouldn't do so either. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My other question would be this. Even if things are or were notable, why don't they sometimes allow them? Depending what it is. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 19:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean? What wouldn't be allowed? Wikipedia is not WP:CENSORED so there are plenty of articles about controversial or even shocking topics. Occasionally there might be a cautionary hatnote, like the article on suicide for instance, which has a hatnote for suicide prevention. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 19:45, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Example is this. Even if Pitbull is notable as "Cuban-American", you sometimes don't allow that all because ethnicity aren't mentioned. It dosent have to be. And there is no guideline saying you can't add race on songs articles or albums. And besides, on most articles about Camila Cabello and their songs, they use "Cuban-American" even though they wouldn't necessarily use that, but yet they use that term. So what's the difference? Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 16:03, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is largely voluntary, there's only so much that can be done. Thousands of articles still need copy-editing, additional references to be added or maybe even outright deleted. I am not familiar with Camila Cabello, but likewise, it's unnecessary to mention. And it's not that I personally do not allow you to mention ethnicity, there is an established guideline says so. And going against guidelines is considered disruptive. Imagine seeing "Black", "Jewish", "Orthodox Catholic", "gay", "blind", "disabled" or whatever description you can come up with: it's unnecessary to point out. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 17:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh ok, for other things, that's a different story. Also, Camila Cabello is a singer who was part of the famous girl group Fifth Harmony, who left the group in 2016 and became famous for her solo hits. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 18:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2024

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Information icon Hello, I'm Doniago. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 17:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, i could handle the source. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 17:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Follow WP:BRD. Your edit is being contested by 2 separate editors. Stop trying to make it. Wait until there is a WP:CONSENSUS. Sergecross73 msg me 17:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Sorry for edit warring. I dont mean to do that on purpose. I just get frustrated that you would unnecessarily disagree about the fact that you never let term be allowed. I did look at most of the guidelines. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 18:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm getting rather concerned, as it really feels like every discussion you take part in, whether it's on this talk page or article talk pages, ends up with you saying you don't understand the most basic things being explained to you. Instead, you seem to resort to repeating the same weak arguments no one agrees with. I can't tell if you are being stubborn, or struggle with reading comprehension, but you really need to make a better effort to understand others. Wikipedia is a collaborative website. You need to be able to work with others. Sergecross73 msg me 17:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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December 2024

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Please stop needlessly tinkering with labels. Every other edit you make, you're arguing with someone about mentioning nationality, musical roles, whether or not to force the term "sequel" into article - it needs to stop. Find something more constructive to do. Please reflect on why your edits are so frequently undone. This can't continue on like this, you need to change your approach. Sergecross73 msg me 15:38, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand how you feel, but it's just that it gets repeating and acting like we love repetitive the same artist, depending who it is, and that's not how it works like that. That's all. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 17:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what that's supposed to mean, but editors who continue making the same mistakes without learning, and continue to tax the community's time and patience with errors and time wasting, generally eventually find themselves blocked from editing for being disruptive. If you don't change your ways, I expect the same will eventually happen to you. Sergecross73 msg me 17:45, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Sergecross73, after the discussion about Big Boi, I feel this is a final straw, after ProtoDrake's revert they reinstated their revision, it's WP:OTHERSTUFF, and what is particularly antagonistic is the phrasing "Your lucky I'm adding a reliable source" (sic, WP:CIR again). soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 21:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Soetermans, sorry for being antagonistic for what i said in the Tomb Raider: Legend artcles talk page. I will agree that's it is an emulation and not necessarily a re-released, but it was also stated by reliable sources. Sometimes, if i wanted to make another sentence to prove it's really the truth, i add a source from a reliable source which is what i did. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 21:28, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your welcome. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 22:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your contributions to IcyTwat. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It appears you've published it a second time, and it's still very poorly written and mostly unsourced. Thus is not acceptable conduct. This is your final warning, if you don't stop with this sort of disruptive editing, your account is going to be temporarily blocked from editing. Sergecross73 msg me 20:09, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry about that. I'm just waiting for more reliable sources to come so I can create the rest of the page. Sorry for my inconvenence. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 20:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So you should move it back to draft and wait until those sources exist before you publish it. Otherwise, it is very likely your work will be deleted for lack of notability. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:03, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're doing things in the wrong order. Find the necessary sources first, then create articles. If you don't have the sources or the time to write an article, start and keep it in the WP:DRAFT space until you do. Sergecross73 msg me 01:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks for letting me know. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 03:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you okay with me moving it back to draft? voorts (talk/contributions) 03:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, at least for right now until we wait for the more reliable sources to come. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 03:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. It is now at Draft:IcyTwat. I have one note. The Yahoo Entertainment source is not a reliable source. It's an aggregated post from this website, which has a dead "About" page from what appears to be a brand promotion website. Additionally, in a biography of a living person, there should generally be at least one citation to a reliable source per paragraph. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, I was trying to edit a new article about the hip hop duo Thotwatt, who were created by A$AP Rocky. I'm also trying to make sure I add sources. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 18:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thottwat moved to draftspace

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Thanks for your contributions to Thottwat. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and the sources are unreliable. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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Yeah that's fine. We just all gotta wait until there more sources coming along. Thanks for letting me know. Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 05:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]