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Please do not add or change content, as you did at New Zealand First, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Your source does not mention syncretic politics-gadfium 17:26, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia Page of "Syncretic politics" has mentioned New Zealand First has a key example

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncretic_politics#Other_examples Mhaot (talk) 01:26, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Plus a very similar party in Australia (Katter's Australia Party) is mentioned as Syncretic in Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katter%27s_Australian_Party Mhaot (talk) 01:29, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing it out. An opinion piece is not a suitable source, and as I said before, it doesn't mention syncretic politics.----

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Simonm223 (talk) 13:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stop changing

Stop changing political party positions without consensus and sources. No sources state the Country Liberal Party is right-wing or even has a major social conservative wing. It is centre-right. The Northern Territory is not the same as other states and territories, as the only real factionalism there is in the Labor Party (Right vs Left, the former being by far more dominant, especially historically). Schestos (talk) 10:55, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tall Poppy Syndrome

Please stop removing sourced material from Tall Poppy Syndrome because of your personal experience. That's not an accepted basis for editing. The term may not be as prevalent in Canada than in Australia or New Zealand - or you may not have personally heard it- but it is in use as per multiple Candian sources dating back a number of years. You also seem to be making an assumption based on your generation. You may not hear it among Canadians in your peer group but it is commonly used among younger professionals and women in particular. Wellington Bay (talk) 10:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Under your argument then every English speaking country should be listed,

UK for example has various sources yet it is not added

https://www.cityam.com/it-is-time-britain-rid-itself-of-its-entrenched-tall-poppy-syndrome/

https://northwestbylines.co.uk/news/equality/tall-poppy-syndrome-the-price-ambitious-women-pay-for-success/

https://metro.co.uk/2023/08/03/are-you-suffering-from-tall-poppy-syndrome-at-work-19235480/

And even the USA

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/tall-poppy-syndrome#examples

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/law_practice/resources/law-practice-today/2024/may-2024/cutting-down-tall-poppy-syndrome/#:~:text=Tall%20Poppy%20Syndrome%20(TPS)%20occurs,effect%20on%20women%20of%20color.

This source has mentioned the TPS is mainly a prevalent as a Australia and New Zealand term

https://douggarland.com/pdf/america.pdf Mhaot (talk) 11:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updated: At least you have founded a compromise Mhaot (talk) 11:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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New Zealand Labour Party

I recommend we change it back to a centrist party, and that's because the party has taken a move away from its centre-left base ever since 2017, there's a large range of sources included on this including the ones used for that section changed and others used on the page in other sections

They haven't taken any nominally "centre-left" policies as of late, refusing even capital gains tax, have adopted conservative policies on law and order and on economics have really just continued the policies of John Key from National not changing much

"Reverting back to centre-left as the sources for Centre are just opinion based and a minor description plus it is a constitutionally a social democratic party which has to be centre-left"

Not all the sources are opinion based and I don't know what "minor description" means, but regardless the sources do go into detail on how they've changed away from the centre, whereas previous sources are just outdated going back to 2003 even

Adding to that, constitutionally it's a democratic socialist party, it's described as a social democratic party in theory and pragmatic/moderate and even right wing in policy and practice

Just because it's "social democratic" or it calls itself as such doesn't mean it's centre-left, in fact there's many cases globally of the opposite case. Blairism and the 21st century SPD have both adopted the political positions of its conservative opposition (with Blairism specifically being called everything from centre to right wing), in Bolivia their social democratic party is described as being right wing and far-right, on and on

Because the sources I provided, although some of them are opinion articles, all detail why they characterise the party as centrist, therefore I will revert it back to a centrist party until you can provide an argument and sources that go against... everyone's characterisation of the party and its leaders as centrist, moderate, and even leaning right Destroyerbirb (talk) 10:19, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1) There was a discussion whether to change political positions (from centre-left to centre) on the Labour Party (UK) talk page with sources provided similar to ones your shared but there isn't yet a no consensus and it was decided suspend discussion until at least January hence it will keep the centre-left political position. If there isn't a consensus to change from centre-left to centre on the sister parties (Labour Party (UK), Australian Labor Party etc.), so there shouldn't be a change for New Zealand Labour Party

Talk:Labour Party (UK)

2) The party you are referring in Bolivia is just named Social Democratic Movement but never in the context as a Social democracy

3) "''They haven't taken any nominally "centre-left" policies as of late, refusing even capital gains tax, have adopted conservative policies on law and order and on economics have really just continued the policies of John Key from National not changing much'"

Just because they didn't take nominally "centre-left" policies or try to appease conservative voters does not change political positions here are some examples

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/17/labor-negative-gearing-law-changes-ruled-out-albanese-copacabana-home - Australian Labor Party

https://labour.org.uk/change/take-back-our-streets/ - Labour Party (UK)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/12/denmark-refugees-frederiksen-danish-left-adopted-a-far-right-immigration-policy/ - Social Democrats (Denmark) Mhaot (talk) 12:43, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you still dispute, please discuss on the Talk Page Mhaot (talk) 12:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]