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Deletion request
I accidentally created an article on a woman who already had an article written about her. I will merge my refs into the existing article. but then could you delete the article I created: Anne Feeny? Best Regards, Barbara (WVS)✐ ✉ 16:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Could you (or TPS) convert https://books.google.co.in/books?id=OoZb_FurtwcC in {{cite book}} please? I tried to find contributors parameter for organisations, but I couldn't find it. I am looking for something similar to {{cite book|last=Rindskopf|first=Mike H.|title=Steel Boats, Iron Men: History of the U.S. Submarine Force|publisher=Turner Publishing Company|year=1994|isbn=978-1-563-11081-8|ref=harv}}. Thanks a lot in advance. —usernamekiran(talk)06:58, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Page stalker here: Usernamekiran, there are two really simple ways to autofill citebook from a google book link. You can autofill by pulling down the "template" for book in your editing screen by pressing on the bluelinked "cite" and filling in the ISBN field. Press the hourglass icon and it will fill in most of the information, though you may have to do a bit of clean up. The other way is to paste your link in this book tool and it will fill it in, except for the publishing city, which you should input. In this case, neither of those autofill because there isn't an ISBN and it's a government report. Looking it up in Worldcat, [1] gives you enough information to complete the cite you want.{{cite book|author=United States Defense Mapping Agency|title=MC&G: Mapping--Charting--Geodesy: a Brief History of U.S. Military Mapmaking, and the First Decade of the Defense Mapping Agency|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=OoZb_FurtwcC|year=1982|publisher=Defense Mapping Agency|location=Washington, D.C.|oclc=784684004}} (it also gives the information that there is fully accessible version on Hathitrust (in which case I usually use the tool to do the autofill with the google book link and then use the fully accessible url in the citation. Hope this helps you. SusunW (talk) 13:38, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Some of the source material which may give me more information however I cannot access. Is there a way for you to be able to access these journal articles or be able to give me copies to update the content of the article?
Hi Franko2nd! I have full access to "Dancing and Days Out" and I can email it to you as a PDF. Send me an email on Wikipedia and I'll forward it to you. I don't have full access to Taylor and Francis here, but if I get a chance to stop by the University, I can access their database there and send it to you. I'll see about the Coventry articles. Give me a bit of time. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:53, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
March for Our Lives
I know you're taking a Trump break, but if you have any interest in helping to expand an important and related article (that hopefully won't be too Trump-specific), feel free to to add March for Our Lives to your watchlist. Either way, happy editing! ---Another Believer(Talk)17:44, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi Another Believer I think I feel up to working on Trump articles again. I just did one that is tangentially Trump related: Taco Trucks At Every Mosque. I'm really proud of the effort these kids are making with the March for Our Lives. I saw it trending on Twitter and I was totally thinking about how the article on Wikipedia might be shaping up. I'd be happy to help. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Hah! Re: March for Our Lives, I'm not sure there are many more updates to add now, since the event was just announced, but hopefully there will be additional information about city demonstrations soon. I'm surprised the Impeachment March still hasn't been picked up for a Good article review (we co-nominated back in July), but hopefully we'll have another green plus sign under our belts soon. :) Thanks again for your many wonderful (and important) contributions to Wikipedia. ---Another Believer(Talk)19:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I've been questioned about accessibility to sources behind the University of Pittsburgh paywall. If another editor wanted to ask you to find a reference for them, would you be able to do it? (rather than ask me). Best Regards, Barbara✐ ✉ 14:57, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
I don't know if I can access the materials myself, Barbara (WVS), but I can reach out to UP librarians and see what they can do. Librarians are very good about helping each other out. :) If the items are also contained in databases I have access to (like EBSCO, etc), I can probably retrieve the full text. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:23, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
OMG, this is amazingly awesome! Such well-deserved recognition, and I love the pic. Also, am glad to say I've met you in person!! Congrats!!! --Rosiestep (talk) 23:57, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
True story, years ago when I had a French student living with me in Oklahoma, I came home one day and she was all excited about the dragons living in my yard. (Okay, truth be told she was fascinated by cardinals, possums and armadillos too.) But, after some discussion, my husband and I asked her if she was referring to horned toads. Her indignant reply was "I am French, I know what a frog is!" We had to drag out an encyclopedia to convince her they weren't baby dragons. ;) And Sue, as long as the temperature doesn't drop below say 80F, I might manage the border. SusunW (talk) 01:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
I'd literally freeze. Winter in Yucatán finds me at 70F in sweaters, sweat pants, my one pair of socks and usually with a blanket wrapped around me. I do not do cold well. ;) SusunW (talk) 17:00, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
LOL, Coolabahapple! That sounds a lot like El Paso. I have a husky-mix dog that loves sleeping outside in winter nights here, but in the summer, we have a kiddie pool for her and put ice in it. Poor girl. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
i used to have a purebred mally, as he was a SPCA dog i didn't know his kennel name so called him Ted(dy) because he was big and cuddly (although he didn't like to get picked up - GGGGRRRowly time!!:)), he was also known as wolfie by my niece who could get him to howl, a very cute duo would ensue (drat i never got it on film for her 21st:)), anyhoo, he used to make a dirt "nest" under some shrubs in the backyard and have day long siestas over the hotter summer months, but in winter lie out in the open, it was quite amusing when a damp 90lb+ dog decided to come indoors to see what his pack leaders were up to.:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 07:59, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
I am thinking snow is something that should appear only in photographs. For me, temps here are pretty consistent 85-95F year round, except in May they are 100-110F and in January 70-80F. Perfect weather for me, except for those two months. And no, I do not have air conditioning. That is a industrialized world crazy thing ;)--whenever I go in somewhere here that has it, I take a sweater and stay like 2 minutes max. Give me sun, give me heat, (by the bye, today I have on a sweater its only 78F what the heck is this cold front?) SusunW (talk) 22:40, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
You wrote "I usually feel like I'm not helping enough" - bloody hell, I sometimes give you about 3-4 articles in trouble at NPP every day and you still manage time to salvage them all and do something with them, and you found time to set up a Flock channel with Rhonda so she could find a half-decent way of communicating about getting her work accepted at AfC. I can't think of a single editor who is more helpful at rescuing articles than you. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)18:01, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
I came to your talk page to thank you for your superb contributions to the Amy Sadao article, and discovered the well-deserved praise given you in the Library Journal article. Well done! Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:57, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Wow!! You really are a mega library girl!! Congratulations, Ms Sue 🎉🥂🍾🎊 Of course, being from Texas doesn't hurt a thing!! 🤠 Atsme📞📧17:25, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Too easy Ritchie333. The article was already OK, but I think it's even more neutral now. :) Now, the real question I have, is does Tsamma juice grow square watermelons???? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:46, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello Susan, could you clip this article for me? [2], specifically any parts about Nancy Marcus. I think this one mentions something about her research in January 1972. If you happen to see any other archival type articles that have details on Marcus, I would greatly appreciate it. Cheers! Thsmi002 (talk) 16:07, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Wow, thank you so much! These will help to fill in information I was missing, and to better verify existing info with more independent sources. I appreciate it :) Thsmi002 (talk) 19:10, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
I used all the sources you found! There are still some gaps including a lack of focus on her research activities and her time at Yale. I have no experience with GA writing, in your opinion, is that even possible in an article like this where many of the sources are somewhat primary i.e. from her employer? FYI I nominated it for DYK and it passed the first step! Thsmi002 (talk) 22:37, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
The way I look at Wikipedia sources, Thsmi002 is in two ways: 1) is by notability and the other 2) is by article building. Some sources, like primary sources or sources close to the subject can't be used to establish notability. But they are still reliable sources that can be used to flesh out the article. I'd say go ahead and use the Yale sources to expand her article. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:36, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Hey! Do you mind doing another request? Name is Lilian Welsh, M.D. (1858–1938). I think I already have enough for a start with these two sources [4][5] but I am guessing there may be more coverage of her in historical newspapers. I appreciate it! Thsmi002 (talk) 18:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Please don't undelete copyvio's without at least checking with the deleting admin what the problem might have been. I have rev-delled the edits by Elisa.rolle which contained copyvio from here, e.g. "She wrote more than a dozen books, many of which were non-fictional books for juveniles. She also wrote several books related to Colorado topics and history." vs. "Iris Pavey Gilmore was an author of more than a dozen books, many of which were non-fictional books for juveniles. She also wrote several books related to Colorado topics and history." or "She was involved with children’s theater and dance in Denver, and she taught speech and English at the University of Denver." vs. "She also was involved with children’s theater and dance in Denver, and she taught speech and English at the University of Denver." It may be that more revisions need revdel for the same reason, please remove all copyvio bits from the article and revdel all older revisions. Fram (talk) 08:36, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello! I was looking through AfC and saw this article. Article seems somewhat promotional but do you think she meets notability requirements? From a quick search on her books, I think she may meet (or almost meet) notability requirements for authors. I am curious what your thoughts are. Thsmi002 (talk) 03:04, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Thsmi002! There's a ton of reviews of her work on EBSCOhost. She's notable, looking like a WP:CREATIVE pass to me. I can help work on the article later by adding the reviews behind paywalls. Do you want to clean out the promotional fluff? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Hey, that was the general sense I was getting too. I tried removing a lot of content that I thought did not seem super related to Vitasek, but maybe I went to far? I was thinking it looked like she passed WP:CREATIVE. You adding in some sources would be awesome! Thsmi002 (talk) 16:45, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks so much for taking the time to look at my virgin article. I am a little confused though, as it was previously deleted as it infringed copy right. Does this mean it is has been re accepted now, albeit at low level standard. thanks Columbian Winedot (talk) 17:09, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I couldn't see the copyright infringement, Columbia Winedot. I ran an Earwigh Copyvio check and also looked at the article the reviewer felt was being infringed. Your article was a stub that mentioned basic facts about her... we may as well say it's copyright infringement to mention she's British! I did some copyedit, added info to it. However, there's so much more to add! I'm not well-versed in the kind of performance art she does, but some of the articles I cited talk about that. If you're up to expanding it, please do! Remember to always use your own words in describing the info from the articles. Cheers! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:13, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
No worries, Columbian Winedot. Writing Wikipedia is both easy and very, very hard. But there's a lot of us out here to help. Feel free to contact me anytime when you need references or help. In addition, you may want to get involved with Women in Red where we have an active group of friendly editors. Posting questions on the talkpage there or at theTeahouse will get you friendly answers. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:05, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I didn't come up as a copyright infringement because I rewrote the draft to a stub and revision deleted the old versions :-P Anyway, I thought Svendsen had a good claim to pass WP:PROF so it was worth salvaging. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)12:49, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
No worries, Prince of Thieves! Women's bios (especially from this era) are really tough to source without database access. She's interesting to work on and I wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't sent it to AfD, so it's all good! :D Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:44, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Miracles yes, well said. I need to stay in my niche or learn more about England, it's spooky how the article went from "barely sourced irrelevant politician" to "well sourced respected cultural activist" with the magic touch. Prince of Thieves (talk) 20:52, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@Ritchie333 and Prince of Thieves: if access to databases and stubborn search skills are miracles, then I'll take it. ;) Still working on her... and I'm super curious about the Knights of St. Mark, Venice. I found this unsourced article that seems to be about the award: Order of Saint Mark but I can't find any suitable sourcing. I wonder if it's all in Italian? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:19, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Lol, I didn't start finding a lot till I searched by Sanders. Since women more commonly change their names, it makes it vital that we search by all of their various names and combinations. I found one hit about Sanders under "Miss H. Charles." Totally frustrating, Prince of Thieves! I wish I knew Italian... Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:46, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
The aim is that of highlighting and praising by admitting into the association “Knights of St. Mark”, all those who have distinguished themselves in works of good towards the weak in both body and soul; so that everyone knows that human and Christian brotherhood is still alive in many generous people, in particular in those that help save Venice in various sectors, so that this unique city in the world can find the correct solution to its problems.
I love what you did for this article Sue! It's such a great example to illustrate the issues with SNGs locking people into only one facet of their lives and the problems with women's names obscuring sources. Some day I hope that we will actually see guideline changes that recognize these issues. You totally rock! SusunW (talk) 14:36, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, SusunW! I learned a lot from you about being persistent with all the weird permutations that women's names can come in. I just heard a sad story about a monument that was dedicated to several women who volunteered during WWI and all of their names were listed as Mrs. John SoandSo, Mrs. Henry Jones, etc. All of the women's names were lost. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Find me the list and I'll see if I can identify them. It makes me so angry that women are written out of history. It ISN'T that women didn't help build the world, it is that their contributions have been obscured. (Same goes for minorities) SusunW (talk) 23:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I'll try, SusunW, but it was mostly just a story that I heard about on a podcast. I'd have to backtrack and see which episode it was... :( Fortunately, the podcasters, both men, were also pissed about it. I'm glad there's people out there that get it. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
More and more, I think the public gets that the history we have been taught/told is slanted, but it is really hard to get the systems which produce information (media, schools, governments) to change the way that they tell the stories. One really has to dig to find information on women, even if they are prominent figures. SusunW (talk) 00:03, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Lise Gervais - research request
Hi Megalibrarygirl,
Would you have access to the entry on Lise Gervais in A Dictionary of Canadian Artists, Vol. 2: G to Jackson by Colin S. MacDonald ISBN: 0919554040? I can't figure out if it has been digitized.
I have written an article on her and would like to include it as a source if she is in there, and I think she is. It would be great if we could improve the lede.
Thanks for checking on this if/when you have the time.
WomenArtistUpdates Page stalker here. The book is available at archive.org [14], but you will need to create a free account and join the waitlist for the book. It may be that some of the other reference materials that come up with her name there [15] are of interest. SusunW (talk) 15:28, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
I have submitted an article for Signpost's next issue - which I believe is due any time now. I don't really know who is responsible for Signpost these days, but I thought you'd like to know. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:31, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Kudpung! I think it's a good, informative write up of ACTRIAL. I'm glad to see that it seems to have reduced a lot of nonsense needing to be deleted. Plus it's good to know about the RfC. I'm going to take a look there, too. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:05, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Sue. I see you've been pretty busy lately but perhaps you can find time today or tomorrow to send out the main WiR invitation for April by mass messaging. Now that we have over 360 on our mailing list, it would take quite some time to send them out manually. It's probably also time for Rosiestep to send out the separate invitation she has prepared for "#71 ONLY".--Ipigott (talk) 07:07, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
A friendly FYI, the "#71 ONLY" invitation coincides with the list of names we will get from A+F on or around April 1st. --Rosiestep (talk) 09:27, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
One of the ways in which we could perhaps contribute to the continuing success of A+F would be to check through some of the drafts by new editors listed on AlexBot WiR and move the better ones to mainspace. Missvain has been setting a good example here. As Sue does not seem to be active at the moment, perhaps you Rosie could send out the main April invitation today.--Ipigott (talk) 06:32, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: thanks so much for doing this. I can send out invites next month. You're right, Ipigott this month has been nuts. I've been swamped at work and doing a lot of outreach which leaves me kind of wanting to just chill on my time off. Thanks so much for understanding, all of you! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:35, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Joining for WP:420?
Hi Susan. Just wondering if you plan to join the WP:420 collaboration again this year? I did't see your name on the sign-up. Hope you can do it. I've been working on a good redlist for newcomers, and getting some social media outreach started that might help to attract them (I hope). ☆ Bri (talk) 02:29, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Awesome. This is the first time we've got a person who indicated specific interest in social media (Zee). Maybe you have some ideas as an info professional and/or involvement in WiR? In other words how do we accomplish successful outreach? Any input along these lines is welcome. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:39, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
@Bri: one of our editors, Penny Richards is really good at the social media side. I do some Twitter, but I mostly spend time on it being angry that stupid things are happening in our country or tweeting pics of my dogs. :P Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:41, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
You rang? I mostly tweet my own new articles and others, and pin new or improved articles for our monthly editathons on Pinterest. I'm happy to chat with your volunteer about what we do on that side. Penny Richards (talk) 18:53, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi. The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it that will interest you particularly. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:56, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
—usernamekiran(talk) 06:58, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Moved to Draft talk:RfaProf
The article has been promoted. Congrats, and thanks again for your work on this article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:43, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hello! Your submission of Sarah Frey at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:43, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Done. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2018 (UTC)