User talk:Megalibrarygirl/Archives/2016/January

Warheroes

Happy New Year!

Besides Tamara Konstantinova there are also a lot of articles about notable Soviet military women of WWII era, Anna Yegorova, Yekaterina Zelenko to begin with. Do they, in Your opinion also belong to the WikiProject Women's History? If so, how their importance should be rated? I know about scholarly works about Soviet female combat pilots, by such authors as, for example, Kazemiera Cottam and Reina Pennington, but I unaware whether those particlular soldiers was mentioned anywhere in the context of Women's History. I forbore myself from placing a template of the project on their talk pages, because I'm not especially active in the English Wikipedia and am poorly acquainted with local law and customs. Эйхер (talk) 21:09, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Эйхер! It is ok to add articles to the WikiProject, in fact, we encourage people to participate. WikiProject Women doesn't do importance ratings, so no need to worry about that. I can tag the articles you mention here, but in the future, please feel free to add templates on the talk page. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:19, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

But wouldn't it be against the Project's inclusion policy: "The biography of a woman born between 1900 and 1950 is within the scope of this project if reliable sources discuss her life or career in the context of women's history or as contributing to significant societal or cultural change."? As I said erlier, I'm unaware, whether a reliable source exist, who describes these particular women in the context of women's history. In my subjective opinion, they were significant contributors to societal and cultural change in the life of soviet women and even if not influenced in thei time the concept of womanhood worldwide, then reflected in their life worldwide trends. But it's my subjective opinion - not a reliable source. Actually, there may be more than two or three of them. 46th of the Guards alone can yield more than twenty notable persons. So I need Your advice. Эйхер (talk) 21:50, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

You can use the {{WikiProject Women}} tag since we have no strict rules for inclusion. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

@Эйхер: You might also want to post this question on WikiProject Women's history talk. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:02, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank You! I believe that's the wisest solution/ Эйхер (talk) 12:25, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to a virtual editathon on Women in Music

Women in Music
	10 to 31 January 2016 Please join us in the worldwide virtual edit-a-thon hosted by Women in Red.

--Ipigott (talk) 14:39, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your help

Hi happy new year first of all thank you for your help regarding my article, you have noticed my lack of knowledge about the rules, I see that the article is up at the moment but being discussed about deletion , hopefully it will stay up and I obviouky wouldn't attempt any edit unless im fully familiar with the rules.wish you all the best (Mahashemi (talk)) 18:50 Jan 4 th 2016

Hi Mahashemi, Wiki can be confusing! I'm happy to help if I can. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:35, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Felicity Tree

Thank you for your efforts on the Felicity Tree article; it is much appreciated. Jack1956 (talk) 21:42, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad I can help, Jack1956. I recognized the Tree name and thought there might be some more info out there. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:49, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Indigenous Women redlinks list

I thought we already had one of these, but I fail to find it. Am I missing it? And if we don't, I wanted to add the International Council of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers missing articles from this link. Saw your note that Julieta Casimiro was a redirect and thought indigenous women would be the place to post it since that is scheduled for August. Sorry to make more work for you, but you do a much better job with starting these than I ever could. If it's already been created, can you just point me to it, as I am worthless with WP searches. :) SusunW (talk) 18:28, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi SusunW, we don't have one yet, but I'll start one. I've been gnoming all morning anyway. :) Do you think that Queen mothers from Africa (the tribal leaders) would fit on such a list, or be better served with black history? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:30, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Frankly, I'd put them on both. That way if they don't get attention on one, they will on the other. I think sometimes we get tunnel vision in our attempts to classify things. It is my theory that the "discard pile" is often the most inclusive. I get that humans classify information to make it easier to sort through the thousands of stimuli that enter our sphere's daily, but by selecting a field in which to process information, i.e. brain says tribal leaders, we may limit ourselves from including Australians, Africans, Asians, etc. and focus on our sphere of Native Americans--if that makes sense. SusunW (talk) 18:37, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Okeedokee, there is a list now, containing one name so far. Yeah, I was thinking there is a lot of tunnel vision. For example, we have articles on Queen mothers, but only the royal European kind and it's been bugging me that no one thought to add the ones from Africa who seem very important there. I'm going to write a general article about the Queen Mothers as a topic, and as I run across, names, add them to the list. :) Btw, those grandmothers are a tough find. They pop up, but not in what the AfD crowd will consider a "Reliable source" since they are doing more religious and spiritual stuff. I don't want to sound discouraging, but I was frustrated when I looked for them. I added them hoping that someone else might have a better time with them. Maybe I'm not thinking about how to search them properly. :P Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:41, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Totally understand that. Frustrating that we have to try to figure out a way to make them immune from the deletionist crowd, but the one plus to AfD is that it usually results in a better article if it gets kept. There are some interesting links here too. User doesn't appear to be active. And I don't know but possibly MurielMary can add info on Aussie and New Zealand indigenous women? SusunW (talk) 18:45, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

The AfD crowd kills me. If I had a penny for every time I saw "no room for improvement" or "my search found nothing of note" on an AfD discussion and this turned out not to be the case... Aargh!MurielMary has been so awesome to have on this project. She helped fix one of my Australian bios in a situation where I didn't get the terminology. It's just another cool example of how well this project works together. I'll look at Avannupo's list, too. I've also been gnoming a list from Spain that Ipigott recced to me. And... on the listing front, I think all the STEM stuff is separated. :D Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:53, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, and we both know who is one of the main offenders of that lingo. Yep, I've been impressed with Muriel Mary's work. Hope she gets to 25 articles soon so we can get her on autopatrol. Very cool to have the list, thank you. I'm running through the Indigenous project list to see if I can find other users who might help and who are active. I saw the discussion on Ian's page. We are moving ahead, slowly, but surely. I am working on my article of the day but then back to banner tagging on that list Edgars2007 created of articles missing banners. :) SusunW (talk) 19:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

@SusunW:, I know gnoming can be a drag, but all that tagging helps alert us to AfD's and other things. It also shows our true scope. It's so important what you and Edgars2007 are doing. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:12, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

@Megalibrarygirl: Yep. I hate it, (you know me well) but know how important it is. That's why I was thrilled with Edgar's list. SusunW (talk) 19:15, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi SusunW and Megalibrarygirl!! I've been away on summer holidays and just got back a few days ago and back into WP - thanks for the mentions above, I'm enjoying writing here! I have no idea what "gnoming" might be, but if you need some help with it, just shout out! With regard to indigeneous women in NZ, I will ask around on the WP NZ board to see if there is a Maori woman writing bios. MurielMary (talk) 22:36, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

@MurielMary:, that would be totally cool. Thanks for asking about the Maori. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:40, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month

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Amalia Carneri

Curious if you can find some references for this opera singer? I seem to recall you having better access to sources. Cheers! --MurderByDeletionism^"bang!" 00:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

WOW! MurderByDeadcopy, that person is difficult find. I found no hits in EBSCO, JSTOR, Project Muse, HighBeam, Oxford Reference or Newspaper Archive. I'm not a music expert, or proficient in other languages though. You may want to see if Ipigott or someone else on Wikipedia:WikiProject Women might be able to dig up info in other languages. The only stuff I found were images like this: [1]. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 01:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I found this... [2] Megalibrarygirl (talk) 01:12, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I'll give them a try. I knew that age and language would be a handicap. Thanks! --MurderByDeletionism^"bang!" 01:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Page stalker here. Might also try Gerda Arendt. Both a music expert and German speaker. I checked the holocaust museum site and find nothing under her multiple names, though Treblinka is a tricky one as there were 850,000 deaths there and no lists that I am aware of. SusunW (talk) 01:31, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

See my talk. Missing my friend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:13, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

The problem is simply the name: she seems to have frequently used the stage name Amalie Carneri. A search on that shows several recordings, etc., as well as a photo. The original author should include the appropriate newspaper references from her blog page in the text of the article. See also my talk page on this.--Ipigott (talk) 08:37, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

LOL

I was also more or less blindsided by the assertion that Bernie Sanders' wife lacked a page. Never heard of her. Her page turns out not to be simple, because of financial questions surrounding her tenure as a college President and Sanders staffer. I'm gonna check now and make sure that Hillary Clinton's husband has a page of his own. Cheers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:34, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

You made me laugh, E.M.Gregory! Hopefully, there's nothing weird in the bio of Hillary Clinton's husband! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Sort of a retreat of "LOL" but here it goes

I was amused by your comment that you didn't know that Sanders was married and thank you for defending the Jeanette Rubio article. Informant16 20 January 2016

I sort of should of assumed he was, Informant16... it seems like it's almost one of those "American" things where if you're not married, you can't run for office. ;) No problem about helping with the article. I'm totally against the Rubio's politics, but that doesn't mean she doesn't pass GNG. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 14:27, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

There's some hidden part of the constitution that says one must have honeymooned prior to their campaign. I'm also not in favor of him. I do understand that she meets the qualifications though as well. Informant16 20 January 2016

Alexia Poladian

I see you created a list containing the Armenian feminist Alexia Poladian with this edit. Someone also seems to have attempted to add her (in different centuries) to List of feminists. Can you tell us who this is? Do you have any information on her date of birth, notability, reliable sources etc.? --Boson (talk) 23:47, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

No, I don't have any information about her, Boson. I actually just added her over from the other list so that it could be worked on if she was notable. Part of what I do at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women/Women in Red is create redlink lists. Sometimes I have time to check for notability and sometimes I don't. In this case, I didn't. Sorry! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! No problem! If I don't hear any more, I'll remove her from the List of feminists, when I can work out what was added where. She seems to have been added incorrectly in a number of places in the list. I'm not sure if it's a case of someone messing around or adding themselves to the list, or a well-meaning editor having editing problems.--Boson (talk) 00:45, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

You know, I just noticed that there are sources for her, Boson. You might want to post around for someone who knows how to read them, since they seem to be in another language. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:54, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Are you talking about the sources given at List of feminists? The current entry is for a 13th century feminist. It seems to have come from this series of edits, with the edit summary "Name/Job Update newest member of the American Feminism Assocation", which seems a little strange for a 13th century feminist. As well as corrupting the sort parameter for the 19th-century Ellen Anckarsvärd, the edits appear to have overwritten the entry for the 13th-century Helen of Anjou. The English and Albanian sources given in the appropriate column seem to apply to Helen of Anjou and were apparently added in this edit by The Vintage Feminist, so she might like to comment. To fix the corrupted table, I would suggest undoing the IP edits. That should restore Helen of Anjou. I believe there was an objection on the talk page to including Helen of Anjou, but the article talk page would probably be the best place to discuss that. --Boson (talk) 01:43, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

SciBabe

Good to see Yvette added here - but dare I ask you to add Kavin Senapathy too? (As a friend of hers I won't do it for fear of NPV) but I believe she is as notable as SciBabe and has been attacked widely by the usual suspects who rally against GM and modern food technologies. Heaven forfend that we develop ways to feed poor people!82.16.170.111 (talk) 14:49, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi! Not sure if you'll see this since you're logged in anonymously, but just in case, I'm writing this anyway. ;) I'll look into her. If she's the subject of enough sources, I might have material to write about her. Wiki articles need to have a certain threshold. At any rate, thanks for letting me know about another cool skeptic to follow. And I'm going to go ahead and keep enjoying the genetically modified organisms in my life. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to an online editathon on Black Women's History

Invitation
	Black Women's History online edit-a-thon 1 to 15 February 2016 Hosted by Women in Red Sponsored by AfroCrowd Supporting Black WikiHistory Month

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Amalia Carneri

Thank you so much for offering to help with my entry for Amalia Carneri, my grandmother. I have all the orignal source material they are asking for. I just can't figure out how to send scanned pdf files. I have the official record of her death in the Treblinka concentration camp from Ancestry.com and Jewishgen. The nazis kept meticulous records. Very chilling to read.

I do have many news clippings and programs.

I am researching a book on my family which will include a section on my grandmother. I am reading translations of her last letters which are very sad.

Can you please direct me to my next step.Nancypolk (talk) 21:06, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

• Hi, Nancypolk. If you have a scanned file, you could send it by email. If you'd like to send it to me or another wiki editor, we could provide the scans. You could also upload them to Wikimedia commons, I think, too. As for what your grandmother went through, I am very sorry. I am glad that you are trying to keep her memory alive. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:50, 27 January 2016 (UTC)