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RE: Wikipedia page for Joël André Ornstein https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Joël_André_Ornstein_(2nd_nomination)

Dear Contributor,

I am writing about the proposed deletion for Mr. Ornstein's Wikipedia page and acknowledge that the page has not been updated for over 11 years. I would appreciate the opportunity to revise and improve it by adding more recent, relevant content supported by reliable sources and I am committed to ensuring that the page aligns with Wikipedia’s notability standards.

I welcome any feedback on how I can enhance the article further. Could you also advise me on the best way to proceed with these updates to avoid deletion?

Thank you in advance for your consideration and guidance.

Heather

P.S. Please note that I am the previous assistant to Mr. Ornstein, but I am assisting him with fixing the current Wiki issues. I was the one that initially created the page, and I do not believe that it has been updated since then (I worked with Mr. Ornstein from 2005 - 2021). Hlbrooks (talk) 18:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

• @Hlbrooks: hi thanks for your message. The article was deleted by consensus a month ago. You can ask an admin to restore it for you - I can’t do that I’m afraid - but if you message User:Asilvering or User:HouseBlaster one of them will be able to help you. All the best Mccapra (talk) 20:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you so much for your reply and the information. I will reach out to the Admins. :) Hlbrooks (talk) 20:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Hlbrooks, can you show us sources that would qualify as significant, independent, secondary coverage on this person? (See WP:GNG) -- asilvering (talk) 20:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  Hi asilvering, thank you for your message. I was in another page preparing a message for you, so perfect timing. :)

  I only became aware of the deletion today. I no longer work with Mr. Onrstein, but I am helping him with this matter. I only mention this because I need to do some research and put together all of the information. I have a copy of the original page that was deleted from the Wayback Machine.

  I think the best way to proceed is to put it all together, links, etc and then revert back to this thread. Is that okay? Also, if there is anything additional that you think I should keep in mind when compiling the data let me know. Otherwise, I will go through the information on Wikipedia and follow the guidelines. Again, thank you all for your assistance. Hlbrooks (talk) 20:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Hlbrooks I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "revert back to this thread". What you can do if you want to recreate the article is make a draft at Draft:Joël André Ornstein and work there - but I wouldn't recommend doing that. Better would be to gather some good sources that you think were overlooked in the discussion before you start any kind of rewriting, since if it turns out that the deletion discussion was correct and there are no further useful sources, I don't want you to have wasted your time trying to rewrite the article. -- asilvering (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  I meant that I would revert back to this thread to supply you with the additional sources/links that I gather. I can see now what I wrote above was not clear. I will put sources/links together and post them back here once ready. Thank you. Hlbrooks (talk) 20:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  Ah, I see. On wikipedia, "revert" has a very specific meaning: it describes the action of undoing an edit. If you use that word here in any other context, you're likely to confuse us. -- asilvering (talk) 20:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  See, I am not very tech savvy on Wikipedia. :) Hlbrooks (talk) 20:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  I have recreated the page in Draft mode, as the previous version was quite outdated. Given that I haven’t worked with Wiki in over ten years, I wanted to take this opportunity to learn and reacquaint myself with the procedures. It was fun, though I found myself a bit confused regarding the distinction between References and External Links. I believe I may need to add more items to the References section. Could you please take a look at what I've created and let me know if I'm on the right track? I would appreciate any guidance on what else I might need to include to get the page reinstated. Here is the Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joël_André_Ornstein#Jo%C3%ABl_Andr%C3%A9_Ornstein

  Additionally, I encountered an issue while trying to upload an image and a PDF for the bio, receiving the error message below. I would like to resolve this so I can continue contributing to Wiki in the future, as I really enjoyed the process :)

  Automated filter Special:AbuseFilter/281

  Commons no longer allows new users to upload PDF files.

  This decision was reached because by far most attempted uploads of PDFs by new users turned out to be either copyright violations or out of scope. If you were not the original file designer or photographer, that original creator may need to provide an appropriate license on their official website or public-facing social media, or may send the file and permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you.

  If you cannot get a compliant license, it is possible that the file may still be uploaded to the relevant wiki in compliance with their local rules. If this upload is your own work, or is someone else's appropriately licensed work, and is within Commons' scope, please go to the page Commons:Abuse filter and click the report an issue with an abuse filter button near the top of the page.

  To discuss PDFs, and their relevance to WikiCommons, please start a new thread at Commons:Village pump. Hlbrooks (talk) 18:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Hlbrooks, so that we're not taking up Mccapra's user talk page, can you start a talk page for the draft instead? Thanks. -- asilvering (talk) 18:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

  Completed. I tagged you in the talk/page. Thank you! Hlbrooks (talk) 18:20, 26 September 2024 (UTC)