Re: SM UC-42 - I don't mean to tread on your toes with my recent edit, since your local knowledge is apt to be better than mine, but isn't Roche's Point at the entrance to Cork Harbour? So wouldn't it be approximately the correct location after all, as I got the impression the original sinking was at the harbour entrance. Of course, the hull may have been moved by the tides over the past 90-odd years as well. 17:08, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Ah! but is it the same wreck? In 1919 "The divers reported a German U-boat lying on the seabed with her stern blown off". The recent dive reported "little obvious explosive damage". We should know soon enough. ClemMcGann (talk) 22:08, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see you've changed your username. Maybe you would consider adding a {{distinguish|User:Lugnuts}} to your user page, just to make it clear that you aren't the same editor and are not trying to impersonate him. Mjroots (talk) 13:00, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, not going to war over it. The normal convention is to have such notices at the top or the page, that's all. The confusion is in the similarity of user names, not where your editing lies. Mjroots (talk) 12:38, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On the page Loganberry, you reverted an edit, saying in your edit summary that the loganberry can produce a blackberry sport. A sport is a genetically new type produced by a mutation, so how can a sport on a loganberry be a blackberry? A blackberry isn't a genetically new type, but an already-existing one. — Eru·tuon02:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, do you possess a copy of Spong's book on Irish Shipping Ltd. Am currently researching the first Irish Hazel in the Empire ships series. Apparently the book has quite a few details, which were posted at Ships Nostalgia. I can use that source, but would prefer to quote the actual book. I need page numbers for the dimensions (is 16'6" depth or draught?), speed, and Catskell being the manager. Other info I've sourced elsewhere. Mjroots (talk) 05:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
First, thanks for the article, it is good to see some progress on Irish maritime articles. The confisication of the Hazel was addressed in several books. I will check if we have that book. Regards Lugnad (talk) 08:29, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The quote about the ship "being fit for nothing but the scrap yard" does not appear on pages 26-27. Does it appear elsewhere in the book? Mjroots (talk) 09:55, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is a quote, therefore it should be somewhere, right now I can't locate it, I will look later. Page 54 comes pretty close, perhaps use this instead [2]
Hey Lugnad, I just added a suggestion in the Bible talk page that goes back to what I think we were agreeing upon earlier. Your comments would be appreciated. WalkerThrough (talk) 20:27, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I've changed your recent edits to this page a bit ( I've explained on the talk page, here); do you have a source for what you added? Thanks, Xyl 54 (talk) 19:43, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cymric (schooner), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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I note that the ibx states she was a barquentine, which is confirmed by Lloyd's Register. Looks like the article may need to be moved. The Lloyd's register entries contain much info that could be used to expand the article with. I take it you are aware of WP:SHIPS/R, where you will find much of use. Mjroots (talk) 06:49, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your interest.
Perhaps ‘schooner’ was not the best way to distinguish this sailing ship (avoiding the use of schooner and barquentine) and the SS Cymric and SS Empire Cymric and there are others not yet on Wikipedia. I encountered a similar issue with the lifeboat Mary Stanford. There are two lifeboats – deliberately – with the same name. The first Mary Stanford was funded by the legacy on the death of Mary Stanford, but it capsized with the loss of the entire crew. John Stanford, widower of the late Mary Stanford donated the cost of another lifeboat, specifying that it should be named Mary Stanford, which became famous. At the time I enquired as to how they should be named on Wikipedia, but did not receive definitive advice.
As I understand it the difference between a three-masted schooner and a barquentine is only the sail plan. The schooner has fore-and-aft sails on all three masts, while the barquentine is square rigged on the fore mast and fore-and-aft sails on the other two masts. In Arklow they preferred the schooner configuration. The Cymic was configured as a barquentine until purchased by Arklow, and then she was configured as a schooner. When Arklow schooners were used in films they were (sometimes) configured as fully rigged ships, see this photo: [7]
Perhaps some of this should be in the article? There is a picture of the Cymric on the dust-cover of Frank Forde’s book Maritine Arklow. She is rigged as a schooner and has “EIRE” and two tricolours prominently on her side. There is a painting here: http://www.mariner.ie/history/remember/kenneth-king-paintings/cymric
The side markings are not as vivid, I have authority to upload a low-resolution image of this, but I would prefer the dust-cover painting.
WP guidelines speak of using the common name, and there are lots of references calling her a schooner.
If she was re-reigged at some point, but spent most of her life/was better known as a schooner, then the current title is fine, and a redirect should be created from the barquentine title. If she was launched as a barquentine, then the link from the relevant list of ship launches should be under that title. The infobox and article should be tweaked to show that she was re-rigged at some point.
As for disambiguating ships of the same type with the same name, the usual method is by year of launch. If these are the same (it does happen!), then either month and year of launch or builder and year of launch can be used to disambiguate. Mjroots (talk) 19:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not much advice I can give, other than to make full use of all sources, including those listed at WP:SHIPS/R as well as book sources. Remember that many Irish ships were registered under the British flag in the period between 1923-39. Good luck with the article. Mjroots (talk) 12:25, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PS: I've also re-arranged the section headings a bit, to separate the RN and the merchant service; I trust you are OK with that? Xyl 54 (talk) 23:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just to reply to your post, there; yes, I do have an e-mail address, imaginatively titled Xyl_54@yahoo.co.uk . I had a look at the Irish Oak page; U-boat commanders seemed to suspect Q-ships everywhere, though they were hardly used by the Allies in WWII. ( I read a memoir by Jost Metzler, of U-69; he met a ship he decided was a Q-ship, just because it fired back at him when he attacked it; and both wars saw a steady stream of attacks on neutrals ("assumed to be British"), passenger liners ("assumed to be Armed Merchant Cruisers") and hospital ships ("assumed to be troopships") despite a lack of evidence, and all indications otherwise. Traveling with lights made one an easier target, and travelling without lights was "acting suspiciously". But I'm digressing:
Hello .
Just to let you know, I've written this page up with the stuff I dug out. I've mentioned the Irish Oak incident briefly; do you want to have a look at it? I'm hoping it says enough (without going into too much detail), and that I've got to the nub of it, in relation to SC 129.
Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 11:48, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We seem to have got to the point of agreeing that splitting the article into MBM (schooner) and MBM (Q-ship) would be the best solution. Is that fair comment?
I’m happy enough to do that, but I think for attribution purposes it’d be better if you created MBM (Schooner); most of the content will be what you have written (and if I do it, it’d look as if I’d written it) OTOH moving what’s left to MBM (Q-ship) is best done by myself (again, attribution).
Are you OK with the process? If you click on the red link, and cut and paste the material you need (or copy and paste the bits that should be in both) It’ll just need a brief edit summary at MBM and a “completed” note on the split section (I've added one here, for formalities sake). When you’ve done I’ll tidy up and move it over.
Does that seem OK to you? Xyl 54 (talk) 01:04, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The schooner page looks good; I've sorted the Q-ship page out now. It might be an idea not to have the categories overlap, otherwise some bright spark will wonder why when they see them there: What do you think? Xyl 54 (talk) 14:18, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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This webpage mentions a patrol vessel named Love rescuing survivors of a torpedoed Norwegian merchant ship only 5 nmi off the coast of Ireland. AFAIK, there was no HMS Love, was this an Irish ship? Mjroots (talk) 11:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have an answer. There was no LÉ Love either. July 1940 was a bad time. There was very little activity on the south Irish coast. France had fallen so convoys were diverted to the north of Ireland, to be further away from German aircraft based in France. A string of mines had been laid at the southern end of the Irish Sea. So it is unusual to find any vessel there. However some activites are not recorded as on May 25, in fear of a German invasion, an order was given to destroy records of anything which supported the allies. At that time Irish patrol vessel Muirchú would have been in the area. There was some German activity in the area. On 12 - 13 June German submarine U-38 (1938) landed a spy in Dingle Bay. Another spy came on 25-26 June to Minard Head, believed to be from another U-boat. Three further spies were landed on 7 July at Toe Head from a yacht Soizic, see Operation Lobster I. So there was a fair amount of calandestine activity, but I am unaware of any ship Love -- Lugnad (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I hadn't realised (perhaps a bit slow!) that the term British Isles, even as a geographical description, was contentious, so I've changed the lead in RNLI. If you think the independents article should be renamed, I have no probs with that, but there are quite a few "What links here" articles that would have to be adjusted, and I'm not sure if that has to be done manually. Regards, Tony Holkham (talk) 12:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think it just needs a redirect page. What d'you think the article should be called, or shall I just throw it open on the article's talk page? Tony Holkham (talk) 15:01, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The photo, which dates from January 1944, is in the archives of the Maritime Institute of Ireland. I have their permission. However orts correctly point out that the copyright rests with the photographer. I do not know who that was. Therefore it cannot be reproduced. The end. Lugnad (talk) 14:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I reverted your edit on Mudflow because bog slides aren't mentioned in the reference, but I've been looking for someone from Ireland or the UK to help create an article about bog slides. Would you be willing to consult? It would mostly be terminology--starting with what they're commonly called. I posted a request for help, but have never gotten a reply. Thanks!— Gorthian (talk) 18:57, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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