User talk:Lotom

Vreme za rastanak

Pozdrav, Lotome. Planirao sam da mi ovaj prelazni rok bude poslednji u kojem ću aktivno učestvovati. Sve mi je teže da postignem, privatno mi se dosta stvari menja, a nadam se da će se još izmeniti u nekom skorijem vremenskom periodu. Obzirom da si najozbiljniji na srpskom fudbalu, nemam bojazni da će nešto faliti mojim manjkom angažovanja na transferima. Vidim da se pojavljuju i novi editori, koji ipak dosta pomažu, pa mi je i to "olakšalo" odluku. Ostaću prisutan na FK Vojvodina, koliko mi vreme bude dozvoljavalo, takođe ću pokušati da izguram ovaj rok do kraja, obzirom da će biti izmena, ali eto, mislim da je red da te obavestim o mojoj odluci. Možeš izbrisati ovu poruku kad je pročitaš :) Sve najbolje, nastavi da doprinosiš koliko si u mogućnosti, uz konstataciju da je zadovoljstvo što sam imao priliku da "sarađujem" sa tobom. Bora83ns (talk) 10:14, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Da kompletiram prenos informacija:

1. Glasnik HNS: http://hns-cff.hr/hns/propisi-i-dokumenti/

2. CG Fudbal: http://fscg.me/propisi-i-dokumenti/cg-fudbal/

3. Registracijski Zapisnik: http://www.nzs.si/tekmovanja/?action=dokumenti&id_tip=6&id_menu=76

4. Makfudbal: http://ffm.mk/makfudbal-2018

5. Službeni glasnik NS/FS BiH(stari brojevi su na dnu u arhivi propisa): https://www.nfsbih.ba/savez/propisi/

6. Nogomet u Federaciji BiH: http://www.nsfbih.ba/stranica/bilteni

7. Službeni glasnik fudbalskog saveza Republike Srpske: https://fsrs.org/sr-BA/sluzbeni-glasnik

Moja pretpostavka je da imas sve ove informacije, ali zlu ne trebalo. Ako znas sve ove linkove, samo sam ja izgubio dva minuta da ih ispisem sve. Kao sto rekoh, pratim jos ovaj prelazni rok, kao sto vidis trudim se aktivno. Bora83ns (talk) 19:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Svaka tebi, brate, čast! Iskreno nisam toliko pratio ostale saveze, posebno ne u poslednje vreme. Morao sam malo drugačije da organizujem vreme, najviše zbog faksa, a i računao sam na tebe dosad. Videću i ja nadalje koliko ću uspevati sve da postignem, ali ću da gledam da isteram baš još godinu-dve. Ako bude nekoga ko bi nastavio da prati, biću tu da pomognem koliko mogu. Toliko će mi, otprilike, biti potrebno da postavim neku bazu i udarim zdrave temelje, što se kaže. Svakako će biti lakše da se prati nadalje. U poslednje vreme sam se više trudio da sredim članke ovim "manje bitnim" igračima. Stoga sam, kao što si verovatno video, Đuričinu odradio pola članka još letos, nakon onih 45 golova na 30 utakmica u 4. ligi. Zato sam i napisao ovo u komentaru. Nekako sam ga i video u Spartaku ove zime, s obzirom na politiku kluba. Ovo je, svakako, preveliki posao za dva čoveka, ali pošto smo mi kao narod tradicionalno skloni dogovoru, knjiga na kraju obično padne na dva slova. Hvala ti za sve ovo i sve najbolje! Lotom (talk) 19:52, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

@Bora83ns: Izvini, nastradao mi je voljni momenat ovih dana, videću posle ako ima još nešto da se doda, ali si pokrio sve koliko vidim. Biću van civilizacije narednih par dana, verovatno, pa sumnjam da ću biti preterano aktivan. Lotom (talk) 17:58, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Nema frke, lagano odmori. Danas je izašao prvi broj glasnika za Republiku Srpsku, pa imam čime da se zanimam, 78 laganih strana... Bora83ns (talk) 08:45, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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Eastern bloc???

Roditelji i dede su mi se toliko borili da ne budemo por Sovijetima, toliko se ponosili sto smo mogli da putujemo, sto smo bili napredniji i imali tu neku slobodu koju ovi istocnjaci nisu imali, toliko se ponosili sto smo stvorili Nesvrstane, da bi sad ova nova generacija debila nas gurala u taj jebeni Eastern bloc. Kod nas klinci ne znaju uopste sta je Eastern bloc, trebalo bi njih sve poslati u sibirske gulage da nauce... Jebote editujemo ovde deceniju, korigujemo sve pogresne percepcije koje svet ima o nama a ovi nasi debili sami guraju dezinformacije i sjebu nas. Hoce da ulepsaju a samo sjebu dodatno sve. FkpCascais (talk) 14:25, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

A tek za ove moje debile koji vam osporavaju da ste svetski prvaci to mi ne ide u glavu. Kad bi samo malo mucnuli glavama i ne razmisljali toliko jajarski shvatili bi da valjda i nama odgovara da nam je domaci rival bivsi svetski prvak a ne neka leva ekipa? Ali ne vredi, to sitnicarsko razmisljanje hara. Pazi niste bili svetski prvaci nego ste samo pobedili neki mali turnir Tojota kup, dodje mi da glavu razbijem svima koji to prde. Pozdrav brate moj! FkpCascais (talk) 14:36, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

E ovo je to sto je dobro za nas fudbal. Ta zdrava konkurencija. To navikavanje i nasih igraca i trenera da rade sa igracima iz celog sveta. CSK nije zasluzio da ispadne, a ovaj limit 2 stranca u protokolu za PLS je cist debilizam. 4/5 bi bilo nesto vec normalno. FkpCascais (talk) 16:24, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Pomagaj :)

Nekako kontam da je najbolje da postoji ova sekcija, baš za ovakve situacije :D Dakle: Marko Mandić Bora83ns (talk) 08:11, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Ne znam koliko ću imati vremena da se bavim, ispitni rok se sprema, jbg. Sređujem uglavnom ono oko čega nema mnogo posla. Ne žurimo, tek se ispilio, što bi se reklo. Lotom (talk) 08:22, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Samo cepaj faks, nema frke. Više sam mislio da li imaš neke dodatne informacije o momku. Znam da je igrao za partizan, ali pojma nemam ni gde je rođen...Bora83ns (talk) 09:30, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Pokušao sam nešto da nađem, ali znam koliko i ti. Znaćemo nešto više početkom naredne sezone, jer je '99 i izlazi iz omladinaca, pa mora negde da igra. Onaj lik sa Srbijafudbala generalno ubacuje mesto rođenja prema prvom klubu gde se neko pojavi, ukoliko ne pronađe info, tako da je tek nešto pouzdaniji od nas po tom pitanju. Prelistaću malo one fudbale kad stignem, jer mi se čini da ima profi ugovor, ili bar stipendijski. A taman ću, nadam se, moći da nađem i kad je prešao u Vošu, pošto je u Partizanu bio negde do 15/16. Lotom (talk) 11:50, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Datum u infoboxu

Samo da ti kazem da je brojno puta diskutovano oko datuma u infoboxu i zakljuceno je da datum treba da bude od updejta a ne datum zadnje utakmice. Recimo, ako je neki igrac igrao zadnju utakmicu za reprezentaciju 2015. ne treba staviti dattum 2015. nego sad 2018. ako si potvrdio da od tada do danas nije vise igrao. Znaci, uvek proveirmo njegove brojeve danasnjice i stavimo sadasnji datum. FkpCascais (talk) 12:54, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Nije to sporno, uglavnom tako i radim, ali ove skorašnje izmene namerno nameštam ovako. Nije značajno velika greška, razlika je u dan-dva najviše, ali meni koristi, jer odmah znam na šta se odnosi. Gledam da održavam bar ove članke koje sam odradio kompletno, a da opet sve bude ažurirano. Znaš i sam kolika je borba sa ovim likovima koji menjaju cifre po najavljenim postavama sa Mocarta i Žurnala. Sunce ti, još ne počne utakmica, oni lupili recku! Za njih postoji samo infokutija, ostalo i ne čitaju, niti ih interesuje. Ja trenutno nemam previše vremena da se zezam oko svakog detalja, pošto često učim noću, a nekad moram i da spavam. Lotom (talk) 13:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Ne, ne, to dan-dva nema veze, video sam neke slucaje gde si vracao datum na 2015. i tako... Nema veze, sam da ti kazem da mozda ne mislis da je datum u stvari datum zadnje utakmice, jer mnogi prave tu zabludu. Cak se zakljucilo na zadnjoj diskusiji da bas ne treba da stoji datum utakmice jer tako pravi zabludu da li je utakmica ukljucena ili nije, vec da ako je utakmica igrana danas (21-5-2018) da stavimo sledeci dan (22-5-2018) jer tako sigurno znamo da jeste. FkpCascais (talk) 14:15, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: E to da l' je danas ili sutra već malo zalazi u gluposti. Najbitnije je da postoji izvor koji kupi te tvrdnje, soccerway zasad najpouzdaniji, mada i tu ima grešaka. Recimo, pošto našu ligu prate delimično, odnosno budu dodati strelci u toku utakmica na pojedinim utakmicama, informacije znaju da budu i pogrešne. Tako je Ristiću(valjda) ostao Donaldov gol. Znači, mora napomena. To što sam vraćao datume, verovatno znači da sam se ja zajeb'o i pomešao linije prilikom uređivanja ligaških utakmica, inače ne diram reprezentacije ako ne isproveravam i pretresem sve prethodno. Mada, ostavljam prostor i da sam stavio datum poslednje tekme, ne smem da tvrdim da nisam, jer je moguće da sam nešto sređivao, pa me je povuklo. Neko u statističkom odeljku ubaci "Odnosi se na tu i tu utakmicu", što je možda i najrealnije. Da se ne lažemo, ovu našu ligu održava tek nekolicina nas, tako da i greške uglavnom nisu namerne, već se potkradu. Ako primetiš da nešto ne valja, promeniš i to je to, ono što inače i radimo. Nego bih ja hteo da presvučem one članke koje sam započeo, a očajnog su sadržaja, ali ne mogu da postignem. Problem, u suštini, postoji kod igrača Zvezde i Partizana, Vojvodinu prati Bora, a ostali klubovi, nažalost, malo ljudi zanimaju. Lotom (talk) 14:33, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Glupost ili ne, to je kako je zakljucila diskusija (ko je to rekao je bio onaj GiantSnowman) ali datume ne treba nikad vracati unazad, nego samo praviti apdejt u smislu "datuma X je igrac imao x nastupa i golova za klub i x nastupa i golova za reprezentacije." Znaci, ako danas pravim apdejt, vidim nastupe i golove koje ima, ubacim, i zakljucim danasnjim datumom, a ne datumom zadnje utakmice. FkpCascais (talk) 15:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: U suštini datum se upisuje sa ~~~~~, dakle jednom tildom više nego za potpis, što ti automatski generiše i vreme izmene i ne moraš da lupaš glavu. Nego tu i ja grešim što ubacujem šablon za datum u nadi da će se oni "dežurni ispravljači" setiti da poprave i datum kad nekome menjaju statističke podatke. Tehnički detalji se usaglašavaju i radi se prema konsenzusu i to nije sporno. Problem je što ti imaš likove koji prilikom svake utakmice koju je odigrao Donaldu spajaju pozajmicu sa onim vremenom koje je proveo kao igrač pod ugovorom. Tako se neki put desi da vratim stanje na neko od pre 10 izmena i onda ispadne tako kako ispadne. Lotom (talk) 16:03, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

To sa ~~~~~ sam pokusao nekoliko puta, nije uspelo najbolje, pa sam odustao i stavljam manualno, ali ti radi kako ti zgodnije. A to za onog lika koji spaja pozajmice, nemam reci, on je bolesnik koji vec godinama insistira na tome i ne shvata u cemu je stvar. Mislim da se zaista radi o mentalnom bolesniku. FkpCascais (talk) 16:24, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Srbijafudbal/mesto rodjenja

Jao brate, gledam update sajta, i najurim na ovu glupost: Ze Marcos se rodio u "Paranaenseu" -_- Boze me sacuvaj.. Godinama sam ga ubedjivao da kad ne zna mesto rodjenja da ostavi prazno polje, nece tvrdoglavo jer kao 99% slucajeva prvi klub mu je mesto rodjenja... I vidi lik koju glupost napravi, nije se ni informisao da "Paranaense" je na portugalskom kao "Beogradski" na srpskom. Kao kad bi neko nekom igracu koji je igrao u Beogradskom SK napisao da se rodio u mestu zvanom "Beogradski"...

Mnogo me nervira sto to radi, ne znam bre sta kosta koji djavo ostaviti prazno polje dok see ne sazna? Pise godinama masovno svima iz BG klubova da su se rodili u Beogradu, posle par godina otkrijes da pola njih veze sa BG nema nego dosli iz raznih krajeva. On je i celu pometnju sa Dajanom Ponjevicem napravio, svi sajtovi pisali da je iz Bosne, dok on mu ne napravi stranu i vide on da mu je prvi zapisan klub iz NS i glat napisa da je covek iz srpske Atine. Naravno ostali svetski sajtovi pocnu da ga kopiraju, i posle par godina ispade on iz Novog Sada. Da bi sad lepo video covek da je decko iz Jajca bas kako su lepo sajtovi na pocetku i pisali, mada sad vecina i dalje ima da je iz NS zbog njegove greske i ludila da su igraci uvek iz mesta gde su poceli da igraju... Ovo za "Paranaense" je dokaz ttoalne neozbiljosti, ko god da vidi ce umreti od smeha jer barem pola sveta zna da je Atletico Parananense iz Cutiribe, federalne drzave "Parana"(pocemu "Paranaense" = "iz Parane") ... Ne znam vise kako da ga ubedim da prestane da izmislja mesta rodjenja, i da pod dva, nema problema da ostavi prazno polje, pa nece mu kruna pastti niti ce izgubiti kredibilitet zbog toga..naprotiv izgobice ga sa ovolikim greskama kakve pravi.. FkpCascais (talk) 05:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Mislim, volim i cenim lika mnogo, za dzabe dobrovoljno radi fantastican posao, sakuplja karijere igracima svaka mu cast... Ali kad mesa tacne i pogresne podatke, sve sjebe.. FkpCascais (talk) 05:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

I ovo za nacionalnost koju im upisuje me vuce za nos. Kaze kao da upisuje nacionalnost kojom su se deklarisali pri FSS... Pa onda ispadni svi iz Novog Pazara i Josanice iz Bosne ma nemoj? Lepo mu kazem dzi se jednog principa a to je nacionalni tim za koji su igrali ili igraju, a ako ne za pasos (redak podatak) pa onda mesto rodjenja. Ti si me sigurno vec provalio kako se drzim toga. Najvise problema prave ovi nasi iz Bosne. Poput ovog golmana Rada Darka Dejanovica. Covek igra u Srbiji od malih nogu, OK, igrao za kojekakve petlice i Bih i Srbije. Najvisi nivo U17 BiH. Znaci, em iz Banja Luke em igrao za BiH U17, meni brate znam da ima duplu sigurno, ali BiH mu prva. I evo sto!!! Igrao on godinama kod nas, u Radu je, veliki srbin dza-bu, kreu sajtovi da mu satvljaju nacionalnost Srbija. Na ransfermarktu me pre par godina 3 puta vratise na Srbiju i to bez obrazlozenja uopste iako sam im sve dokaze doneo, ma ne vredi... I zasto ovo radim? Jer na kraju krajeva 80% jih se kad tad vrate u neki klub u BBosnni. I evo kao za inat, Dejanovic potpisao za neki tamo tim. I sad ce statisyticki izgledati kao da je covek iz Srbije dosao u Bosnu da zaradi za hleb a ne u stvari covek iz Bosne koji je zaradjivao za hleb u Srbiji i sad se vratio u Bosnu. A milion ovakvih slucajeva, svima SRB prva zasava, ispade Bosna puna srba u potrazi tamo za boljim zivotom. ... Znam ja da su oni srbende, moji su pola srbi iz Bosne, vojni veterani. Ali kod ovoga u fudbalu ovde se radi o satistici i nema, ako nisu igrali za nasu reprezentaciju a imaju dvojno, BIH im je prva. Domaci su i vamo i tamo, ali glupost da satisticki u svetu izgledaju kao stranci u Bosni. I krajnje, svi srbi iz Bosne, ako hocemo da nam stoji srpska trobojka, glasajmo onda nezavisost i spojimo se Srbiji, a ne ovako nemati niti nezavisost niti nista a prepustati celu Bosnu muslmanima i hrvatima....

Ma jebes ga ugnjavih te, frustracija jer ispadosmo. A siptari nam masu orlom a orao i Skenderbeg nasi... ma ceo svet naopak,. Nadam se da si dobro ispite urqdio, to je najvaznije. FkpCascais (talk) 05:25, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

FSS Fudbal

Sta je bre sto ne izlazi ovaj Fudbal? Ovde treba da se pojavi, je li tako? FkpCascais (talk) 09:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Verovatno će u toku dana. Kada je malo obimniji dokument obično ga objave petkom, jer treba upakovati sve to. A klubovi, po običaju, čekaju poslednji trenutak za registraciju igrača. Dobro je što su svi prošli prvi krug, nadam se da će Đukić da demantuje moja loša predviđanja, lepo je krenulo zasad. Inače, ne pamtim kad su naši klubovi imali ovakvu gol-razliku u Evropi. Samo je Spartak primio onaj jedan, a palo je ukupno 17 golova u 8 utakmica, 16-1. Videćemo šta će Recko da uradi večeras na "Rajku", ali koliko je kukao celo leto, još je nekako i skrpio ekipu. Lotom (talk) 11:29, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Da, zaista konacno da odigramo kompletno dobru rundu u Evropi! Ne pamtim ni ja. Mozda i nikad nismo odigrali ovako dobru gol razliku. Mada ne zelim da biberim, ali ne smemo da zaboravimo da je ovaj novi format napravljen tako da je skoro obaveza da prvu rundu ovako prodjemo, jer igramo sa slabijom polovinom u kojoj smo medju najacima. Ali mi smo godinama i ovakve duele gubili, tako da je ovo zaista iskorak. Videcemo sad drugi krug, nadam se da nam je ova runda pomogla u samopoverenju koje nam je odavno bilo u manjku. Svaka cast Spartaku koji su i pored bezohrabrujuceg prvog rezultata, i (po meni sigurno namerno namestene) kradje kopacki i ostalog na aerodrumu, uspeli da odu i pobede. Svi ovi bodovi su nam Srbiji toliko znacajni! Postoji velika 5. pa onda grupa jakih liga, i onda ima tu celo jedno more zemalja koja su bodovno blizu i koja sa jednom/dve dobre sezone skoce na oko 15. pa i vise, ili obrnuto, padnu na 40. Zato se toliko nerviram, jer znam da bukvalno nijanse u vodjenju lige i klubova mogu da uticu da budemo 15. ili 40. Pre par sezona smo opasno bili pali, i ovih sad par boljih sezona su bile na moranju inace smo mogli da padnemo kao madjari pa da nam onda bude skoro nemoguce izaci iz bunara. Kad tako nisko padnu, duplo je teze vratiti se, jer su zrebovi mnogo tezi, bunari se decenijama...

Ahahaha banovali me na Serbian FM :D Pratio sam tamo transfere. Ranije nisam ni bio primetio, ali sad vidim da lik koji skoro sve transfere postavlja, malo po malo, pa kritikuje dovodjenje stranaca. Ovih dana je napisao kako kao uprava Zvezde gresi sto i dalje nastavlja praksu dovodjenja stranaca, i kako je Ebesilio kanta, kako su Lukovic i Gojkov mnogo bolji i blabla, i ne izdrzim da ne napisem da prestane sa tim glupostima i blabla... Mislim, znao sam da ce da me banuju, ali jebo ga ne ide u mi u glavu da i dalje ima tih likova sa tim teorijama. Taman su nam se klubovi unormalili sto se stranaca tice, taman ih dovode u OK broju i relativno dobre, narocito za nase uslove, taman se i rezultati vide u Evropi, ... i jebo ga koji smo naopak narod, opet im ne valja. FkpCascais (talk) 21:14, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Ebisilio je drugačiji tip igrača od Kange, on je neka lažna 10-ka, "central winger", kako je još zovu. Izabrao #11, jer je ranije igrao na krilu, nespreman je i još uvek se traži. Slučajno asistirao. Milojević ga gura između linija, a Melega izvlači na krilo, mada je moje mišljenje da je obrnuta situacija korisnija. Što je najgore, malo podseća na Rikardinja, ali se nadam da će se osloboditi pritiska na vreme. Međutim, nespremnost je najveći problem kod svih koji su došli, jer su imali pauze u svojim klubovima. Stojiljković presedeo na klupi i čim je ušao u takmičarski ritam, odma' povreda. Opet, svi smo svesni da naši klubovi nemaju para da dovode neka mnogo ozbiljnija pojačanja, jer niti mogu tako lako da ih nađu, niti ti igrači imaju volju da igraju u ovakvoj ligi. Čitam danas vesti i gledam vraća se Lola Smiljanić, da l' je realno? Lotom (talk) 21:41, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Gledao sam delove druge vase utakmice i Ebesilio mi se ucinio sasvim solidan, i da je jasno jos uvek u periodu adaptacije, alias, ceo tim je. Sa onim sto sam video deluje OK, zna sa loptom, ali ceo tim je tek mozda na 60% svog kapaciteta pa je rano za neke zakljucujuce ocene. Mislim da nisi u pravu sto se kapaciteta dovodjenja pojacanja nasih klubova tice. Vani ne padaju nikakvi milioni sa neba. Bas je na Zurnalu kad je vest o potpisivanju Rikarda izasla jedan lik prokomentarisao cudjeci se kako to da u Portugalu u durgoj ligi da su plate tako male. Da, to je realnost. U globalnom svetu sa nasim platama mi mozemo da pariramo mnogima i uz malo truda da ubedimo razne dobre igrace da dodju. Cak su drugi problemi druge prirode mnogo veci od para. Recimo, mnogi strani igraci ne dodju jer cuju da kod nas malo ko zna jezike i da ce komunikacija biti problem, a zatim vide da recimo nemaju nijednog zemljaka (ili na prste da ih nabrojis) u ligi, i onda odustanu, pa i za manje pare igraju po nizim ligama u drugim zemljama gde ce se osecati komotnije. Ovaj Rikardo je najbolji primer kako moze da se dovede dobar igrac kod nas kad se ima volje.

Da, Lola je izgleda danas stigao i vec potpisao -_- Ja tog lika ne mogu da vidim ocima zbog karaktera koji ima. Ne mogu sad da ti nadjem vest, ali ta vest je cist primer o cemu govorim. Izasla je u Zurnalu, i Lola izniodkuda izadje pred novinare i pocne da kritikuje kako se daje prednost strancima i kako je on jadan ogorcen i kako je to velika nepravda. On je tada sedeo na klupi jer smo imali Medu Kamaru koji je odlicno igrao zadnjeg veznog. I lik (Lola) je cinio sve da mu zagorca zivot i otera ga, i uprava je to trpela... Tako da sam i sad ogorcen njegovim povratkom. Imali smo reprezentativca Burkine Faso, mladog, Draman Salou, na izgled Patrik Vijeira, i nije ni sansu dobio, a sad pod Lole je tek nece ni videti (ako je Salou i dalje u klubu uopste). Ja te prepotentne domace igrace ne mogu da vidim ocima, predstavljaju sve ono protiv cega se borim a to je da nase najvece klubove smatraju svojom prcijom. Ja bi sve promenio, i dovezao bi u klubove superlige stranaca koliko je Zvezda imala pri kraju Grofa/pocetku Miloja a to je bas zato da nasi osete da NISU privilegovani u nasim klubovima, i da kad udju u klub superlige to je kao da su potpisali vani, i da imaju konkurenciju, da je profesionalizam pod jedan, i da moraju da daju sve od sebe. A ove mere protiv stranaca i ovo kumovanje trenera/igraca/uprava unistava ceo taj koncept koji krajnje drzi nas fudbal na niskim granama zarad njihove zabave. FkpCascais (talk) 22:42, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Na to i mislim, gotov igrač košta, a mi nemamo ljude koji umeju da "namirišu" potencijalne talente, niti da rade sa njima. Le Talek je pobegao iz naše lige, jer nije mogao više da igra u ovakvim uslovima. Neki put mi se čini da su tereni bolje izgledali pre 100 godina, nego sad. Salu je planiran za Teleoptik, ali to ostaje da se vidi. Bez "Fudbala" više ne verujem bilo kakvim natpisima. Demir i Racković su odjednom nestali iz Spartaka. Lotom (talk) 23:01, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Kako mozes da kazes da je Le Talek "pobegao"? Pa covek je dao dve i po svojih najboljih godina Zvezdi, pa ne bi prosecan domaci toliko dao. Rackovic sam negde procitao da je posle mesec dana napustio Spartak... PS: Demir cist menadzerski igrac. FkpCascais (talk) 23:11, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Ma ja Le Taleka cenim i kao igrača, a i kao pojava mi je korektan. Ugovor je odradio maksimalno. Pobegao je u smislu da nije želeo da produži ugovor i ostane u klubu, a sam je iznosio dosta kritika na fudbal u Srbiji. Hteo je bolje uslove i da se po mogućstvu vrati kući i to je ostvario. Lik je pomeranjem pozadi postao verovatno najbolji stranac kog smo imali i među najboljima generalno na toj poziciji od početka milenijuma. A bilo je igrača poput Vidića, Biševca, Gaja... Le Talek i Vujadin su prošlu sezonu odigrali vrhunski, što pokazuju statistike LE. Došao je Degenek, koji ima nekih prednosti, čak i boljih karakteristika, ali je Francuz nešto stabilniji. Opet, ovaj je tek stigao, vreme će pokazati. Lotom (talk) 23:29, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Djukic je malopre na konferenciji rekao da je Smiljanic blizu dolaska (znaci jos nije potpisao, ima nade da ne dodje!!!! :D Sta ovi moji rade kukulele? Taj Lola ako dodje necemo ga se otarasiti vise u zivotu ima 31 taj je smislio da se uvali sad kod nas lepo na platni spisak deceniju vremena bar. A glavu dajem da je ostao isti debil koji je uvek i bio i da kao i ranijih puta nista vani nije naucio niti se promenio. Lik koji je pun sebe i misli da je vazan faktorr u pm i sto je najgore sto potencira to da je nase dete i misli da mu to daje veca prava nego ostalima. Kreten Djukic je na konferenciji vec spomenuo to da je nase dete... UZAS! A sta rade tek sa Vakulkom i Salouom totalno je besmisleno. Pazi kao Vakulko koji je bio vazan sraf 2-3 uzastopne sezone u jednom jakom Dnjepru, plus kapiten mlade reprezentacije jedne Ukrajne od koliko valjda, mislim da 60 m ljudi, nama nee valja ni za rezervu??? Malo mi je tesko da poverujem. Oba igraca su mladi perspektivni dosli, i ovi su ih totalno unistili, i formu im oborili, i trzisnu vrednost, debili! A obojica su bas bili em dobro odabrani (jedan proveren mlad evropski igrac a drugi africki biser) em strasan potencijal da se zaradi na njima jer imaju godine taman da se razviju i obojica imaju razlicita ali atraktivna trzista. .... Unistise dva igraca bukvalno bez ikakvog logicnog razloga. FkpCascais (talk) 14:42, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Takvi igrači obično eksplodiraju u sredinama, odnosno klubovima poput Voždovca, Spartaka, Surdulice, Čuke, pa čak i Voše. Mislim da bi Spartaku Vakulko legao kao budali šamar ako ode Glavčić. Jeste da je Glavčić nešto ofanzivniji, ali ni ovaj nije strogo DM. Poenta je da igrač ne može da se nadograđuje, ako ne igra. A Simović je između redova najavio prodaju još nekolicine igrača čim završe kvalifikacije. Tako da nije isključeno da im od prošle sezone ostane samo Dunđerski mlađi i još par onih koji su manje igrali. Mada za Afuma kažu da je dosta dobar, nisam ispratio, pa ne mogu da tvrdim. Lotom (talk) 14:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Obojici bi takva jedna sad pozajmica bas sjajno legla. Salou bi veovatno rado prihvatio, ali Vakulko vec ne znam. Covek je ipak vec dosao kao stvoren igrac. Ja sam se nadao da ce u Vojvodinu preci, siguran sam da bi kod njih eksplodirao i bio Merebashvili 2. FkpCascais (talk) 15:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Divno, stigao mi je Lola, sad vec zvanicno... Mozes vec da upises titulu CZ ove sezone. FkpCascais (talk) 16:44, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Sad sam pustio da gledam tekmu, baš vam je grobljanski ovaj font. Nije toliko loš, ali mi stvarno malo liči na Topaloviće. Lotom (talk) 17:03, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Evo sad sam krenuo da gledam. Sa jedne strane mi se svidja kako tim izgleda, jako mi se dopadaju Djerlek i Sehovic. Sa druge strane sam ogorcen time sto mi uprava radi cudne poteze kao unistavanje Vakulka i Saloua, i ne borenje da se boj stranaca unormali i uskladi sa normalnim zemljama. Sad sam tek video, nisu izdrzali da ne promene i poostre broj stranaca. Bruka. Imamo pravila kao one neke zatvorene azijske zemlje tipa Mianmar, neverovatno. Znatno je poostreno, sad je dozvoljeno 4 stranca ukupno prijavljeni u protokolu, a do sada je bilo 4 na terenu a mogao si da imas na klupi koliko hoces... FkpCascais (talk) 17:22, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Ono u "Honours" sto u klubovima, sto u igracima, ne stavljamo druga mesta u ligi, ali stavljamo finaliste kupova jer finalisti dobijaju premije (srebro)... Tako barem po WP:FOOTY. FkpCascais (talk) 17:56, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Evo ga jedan interesantan primer kako mi cak i te najjeftinije strance ubadamo, ali posle ih kod nas nestrucni kadrovi ne umeju da iskoriste: John Okoye Ebuka. Stigao je u Novi Pazar preko menadzera nema sta, i doveden je u paketu sa sunarodjakom Dagogom (sto je dobro da ne bude sam). I onda mesecima sedi na klupi i tribinama da bi pred kraj sezone dobio 3 sanse cisto reda radi. Covek napusti Novi Pazar uz verovatno oprostena dugovanja, i ode na turski deo Kipra na probu kod njihovog tamo sampiona. Izbori se za ugovor, krene da igra, i golovi pocnu da cure kao iz cesme. Lik postane od glavnik zvezdi koje doprinesu da Yenicami osvoji dva uzastopna prvenstva, u pvoj sezoni sa 21 golom a u drugoj sa cak 41!!! Naravno bude najbolji strelac lige obe sezone. Postigne 74 gola na 57 utakmica. Na sve to lik ima samo 21 godinu! E sad, ta liga jeste krs, nije cak ni pod pokricem UEFE i ajde da kazemo da je otprilike 3 puta slabija od nase. Pa opet, da postigne trecinu golova, znaci 14-15 po sezoni, uz to verovatno i kvalitetnije asistente bi kod nas imao, pa vidi. ... Pravo da ti kazem kad sam prvo video njegovu stratistiku mislio sam da je laz, da neko vandalise statistiku da bi se prodao, ali ne brale, lik stvarno reseta mreze. FkpCascais (talk) 19:38, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Pazi, mi trenutno imamo Suraku u Vranju. Činjenica je da Recko radi "neke stvari" i sve to, ali verujem da će ovaj tokom sezone da uradi nešto, ukoliko ga ne proda. E sad, koji je kvalitet te lige, ne znam, ali nam definitivno treba razvojna liga (Prva liga je odlična za tako nešto), gde bi oni mogli da dobiju prostor da pokažu šta znaju. Naravno da tu ograničenje bude na 4 stranca, kakvo sad ima SL, to bi bilo idealno. Mi imamo primere Đuričina, Sibinovića, Šilje Stojanovića, Pavlovića, Mićunovića, pa sad i Andrejića u Trajalu, odnosno Mladena Kovačevića u Bečeju. Tu je i Željko Dimitrov, pa i Jovan Kastratović, koji u Zoni daje gol po utakmici. Sve su to igrači koji su bili izuzentno efikasni u našim nižim ligama, ali neki ozbiljniji fudbal traži i kvalitet više. Ne znači da se neko ne bi izborio i u višem rangu, ali neki put okolnosti opredele mnogo toga. Recimo, onaj teren u Surdulici je katastrofa, kao da nije zalivan mesecima, a padala je kiša stalno. Pomenuti Sibinović je u Tutinu prema srbijafudbalu izlistan među odbrambenim igračima. Čovek je počeo kao špic, pa su ga vremenom gurali na krilo i sve više pozadi, zato je i dao samo jedan gol u Prvoj ligi. Mnogo je loša situacija po nekim pitanjima, ali ono što ti pišeš, provereni igrači i te priče, to nas ubi. Da ti dovedeš dva-tri takva igrača, pa i da razumem, znaš šta možeš da očekuješ i zbog toga ga dovedeš na neko mesto. Ali da praviš ceo tim od limitiranih igrača, a da očekuješ neke ozbiljne rezultate, teško će to da ide. Plus čuvena trenerska vrteška i ljudi koji su zaspali u nekom prošlom vremenu, a sole pamet svima oko sebe. Ako menjaš po 10+ igrača svake sezone i to baš tih "proverenih", teško ćeš uspeti tako brzo da napraviš neku igru, a rezultati traže i neki kontinuitet rada. Najbolji primer je reprezentacija Belgije. A nas isto nigde nije bilo godinama, pa onda pravimo tim na Svetskom prvenstvu i naravno, ne uradimo ništa. Nekim igračima treba više vremena da dostignu neki nivo, ali moderan fudbal to ne trpi. Opet, pomenuh te razvojne lige, jer to svaka ozbiljnija liga ima, i tu uvek mogu da se razigravaju igrači koji nisu u konkurenciji za neke utakmice. Sve ove lige oko nas kad traže neke anonimne strance, daju im priliku u B timovima i tu ih razigravaju, a mi nama ni ova "najbolja" nije Bog zna kako uređena, a kamoli ostale. Pitam se šta je sa onom dvojicom iz Zemuna koje je Beki rasterao, koliko se sećam oni su potpisali profi ugovore na 3 godine i nisu ih raskidali. Ne znam da li neko uopšte kontroliše takve radnje, ni da li se to slovo ugovora poštuje. Verovatno tu ima i nekih izlaznih klauzula i "poverljivih informacija", ali ja ne nađoh više ništa o njima. Lotom (talk) 20:26, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Da, ta rigorozna oganicenja i zabrane u nizim ligama su kao da su namerno namestene da se oemoguci ikakav skauting i razvoj jeftinih stranaca. Umesto da se upravo dozvoli u ligi rezervnih timova, omladinskoj ligi, PLS e srpskim ligama da se dovode igraci da se prilagodjavaju i povecavaju kokurenciju, oni bas rade obrnuto, stite prevazidjene trenere i ostale sportske radnike koji su ostali jos u Savezu Komunista, da im slucajno stranci i rad sa njima (odnosno ko ume) ne zaprete mesta i ne pokazu njihovo otalno nepoznavanje modernog fudbala. To je cemer i beda naseg fudbala, sto vrh stiti taj propalitet i zatvara vrata inovaciji i prilagodjavanju modernom svetu.

Evo upravo sta sam govorio o Loli (evo ovde) pokazuje da se lik apsolutno nista promenio nije i da ce ici na iste pokvarene fazone i nasavljati da pravi grupice i razdor u svlacionici. Lik jos nije ni stigao a on vec sebi daje za pravo da javno govori ko treba a ko ne treba da bude nosilac igre, i na racun cega (pazi, nemam bas nista protiv Pantica, cak ga gotivim, ali da mi ovaj slinavi tatin sin dodje u klub i vec sere kako Pantic treba da bude nosilac igre jer je "nase dete" dodje mi da ga suspendujem odmah zbog takve izjave i mesanja u rad trenera gde mu nije mesto!). Uradice kao i predhodni put, uci ce u svlacionicu izigravajuci neku vedetu/fudbalsku starletu, okupljati oko njega ove nase domace, i sikanirati strance, jasno kao dan. To je radio sa Medom posli put i uprava mu je dala zeleno svetlo do te mere da je terala Medu samo da ga zadovolji da bi na kraju i jedan i dugi otisli, cale Loli nasao bolji ugovor u Izraelu i on ode, a mi zbog njega ostadosmo sa nezadovoljnim Medom 6 meseci i na kraju bez njega. A Medo je bio odlican zadnji vezni, Loli lekcije da drzi. Sad ce to raditi sa Sumom i ostalima vec vidim, mislim, vec najavljuje javno, sta vise dokaza treba? FkpCascais (talk) 14:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Samo sto je stigao a on vec filozofira ko treba a ko ne treba da igra, pazi vec sam sebi daje ulogu kao "na nama iskusnijima je da mu pomognemo"... Ko si bre ti? Cuti tu i radi, nije jos ni upoznao tim a vec ima "miljenike" kojima ce ON da pomaze. Zlo zla naseg klupskog fudbala i nije on kao primitivna pojava, nego je ekipa sa vrha koja ovo dozvoljava. U Portugalu bi ovakva vrsta govora bila nezamisliva, odmah okarakterisana kao nepozeljna, i ovo bi bilo smatrano kao mesanje u domene koje ga se ne ticu i odmah shvaceno da je u pitanju igrac koji se mesa gde mu nije mesto i stvara grupice u svlacionici sto je veoma nepozeljno. Nekoliko puta se secam ovakvih slicnih izjava kojekakvih egocentricnih igraca koje su zavrsile suspenzijama i osudom. Pa eto recimo nas Stojke kad je bio u Sportingu golman i imao uzastopne kikseve, kad ga je trener stavio na klupu i dao prednost Rui Patriciju (ispade pun pogodak) Stojke izadje u medije i iskritikova potez trenera da je kao greska, da je on najbolji golman Evrope. Bio je ismejan od strane medija, nijednom vise nije branio, i cim je dosao prelazni rok, oteran. Ma mogao je on i zaista da bude najbolji golman, ma najbolji u svetu, ali zbog izjava koje se mesaju u odluke trenera i tim, nema, sut karta odmah. Ti si igrac, privatno radi sta hoces, ali kao profesionalac ti ima sve saigrace da postujes, svi su "tvoji" nema tu tvojih i tudjih, i igrac da pravi takvu podelu u svlacionici. ... Evo ovde u Portugalu znas sigurno da su zemlje puna talentovanih fudbalera, imaju skole koje su prema nasima ceo jedan vek naprednije, tu i tamo i ima analiza u kojima pohvale kad tim ima par dobrih igraca koji su ponikli iz skole, ali nikako da od toga prave prioritet ili glavnu temu. U Portugalu u vecim klubovima vec u omladincima su igraci suoceni sa konkurencijom iz celog sveta. Kad ti klinac ulazi u omladince Porta, Benfike ili Sportinga, ti znas da ti je mali usao u svet ozbiljnog fudbala. Nema ti tu da zoves trenera na Slavu pa da mislis da ce ga on zato privilegovati, nije to put, nego znas da mali mora da vezba i da sve od sebe jer vec tu ima na njegovom mestu barem po jos jednog domaceg, jednog crnca, jednog brazilca i u timu ima i iz latinske ameerike, i istocne evrope, i skandinavaca i engleza koji dolaze zbog dobre klime, i azijata, i da pored toga klub ima konstantno skaute i otvorena vrata probama klincima odakle god bili. Zato ovde u Portugali kad se jedan domaci probije iz skole u prvi tim, odmah se upali semafor u velikim evropskim klubovima, jer znaju da on nije dosao do prvog tima preko veze, vec se izborio. E to pravi razliku. Lepo kazes, koji bedak da savez zabranjuje strance u nizim i omladinskim ligama, tamo gde bi upravo trebao put da bude otvoren da se nasi domaci malisani (nasa deca) kale odmah u profi ambijentu, a ne ova nasa bedna realnost gde savez sve cini da zadrzi ovaj truo sistem u kojem se klincima sa vezom olaksava da se izreklamiraju pa onda (sad sve manje i manje) prevare neki zapadni klub, uzmu malog, i vide da mali nema ni osnove naucene. Imali smo sve da uradimo portugalski recept, nasi igraci su bili u modi, i pored svega sto nam se desilo, ipak smo ostali koliko toliko bili kao neki regionalni jak fudbalski centar. Imali smo trenere po celom svetu koji su bili zeljni da salju tamosnje lokalne bisere u Srbiju, znam iz prve ruke. Ali tu nastade glavni rat i podela. Treneri i mafija koji su ostali kod nas nisu to uopste videli dobrim ocima, to je ugrozavalo njihov model tati koji placaju da im sin igra i da mu se nadje angazman vani. Konkurencija se eliminisala da ne ugrozi model, i treneri "forsiraju" one koje im odgovara bez da postoji opasnost da se jasno vidi nepravda da neki indijanac znatno bolji sedi na klupi, ili da protivnicki klub bude pun indijanaca pored kojih ce tvoje forsirano dete izgledati trapavo. E pa zato mi forsiramo sve te copave koji na kraju posto je fudbalski zapad toliko alav cak i njih nasednu da dovedu, ali zato nisu do te mere glupi da ih skupo placaju, niti kao nekad Kezmana, spavajuci mirno stave u prvu postavu jer smo tada jos iole i bili garancija nekog kvaliteta (kao sto su portugalci) a sada cak i drugoligasi kupuju nase igrace sa rezervom jer znaju da smo MI u stvari postali bukvalno macke u dzaku. Svet zna da kad se portugalac probije u prvi tim Porta/Benfike/Sportinga pa cak i Brage, da je on solidan, nekad su i nase prvotimce Zvezde/Partizana pa i Vose uzimali sa slascu, a sada? Da bi se tamo neciji sinovci isforsirali i prodali, unistili smo ceo nas fudbal. A ja sam sigurno ekstremno dosadan i repetitivan, ali kontam da razlog svega lezi ovde. U tim tezama protiv stranaca, o branjenju "nase dece", i krajnje, tolerisanju, dozvoljavanju, i izostanku perspektive, da ce se stvari promeniti. Ja sam prvi kome najdrazi Djerlek i Sehovic, ali ih zelim takve, kvalitetne, da se pokazu i izbore, a ne da ih svet brka sa morem isforsiranih klinaca koji su se vani samo obrukali i ukaljali imidz nasih skola. FkpCascais (talk) 16:55, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Pazi, što je najgore, dozvoljeno je imati brdo klinaca u omladincima, tu nema ograničenja. Ali zato u prvi tim mogu samo dvojica u PLS, dok oni u nižim ligama nemaju gde. Evo, skoro smo imali one Kineze u Pirotu. I onda ti klub iz treće lige, kom su omladinci u tzv. kvalitetnoj ligi, recimo ubode stranca koji bi imao šta da pokaže, ali nema gde da igra. Imamo pravilo o bonusima u srpskoj ligi i zoni, a činjenica je da se mnogi klubovi krpe i snalaze kako znaju da bi isto zadovoljili. A moraju da ih imaju bar 2 u prvoj postavi i da budu na terenu do poluvremena. Kod nas se ti crnci i azijati uvoze na kilo i to samo zbog kombinacija sa raznim menadžerima, a niko i ne proveri te igrače. Nekad tu bude kvaliteta, nekad ga nema, ali ne možeš da znaš dok ne vidiš kakav je. Naši klubovi skauting nemaju i onda se tu vrte isti ljudi i iste priče. Ni klinci neće na pozajmice jer se tu obično zakopaju, nego beže van ili raskidaju ugovore i prelaze u neke "manje klubove". Za mnoge te manje sredine u Srbiji nisu atraktivne. Međutim, ako ti dovedeš klinca iz neke zemlje gde nije imao ni takve uslove i daš mu mogućnost da se školuje i igra redovno, za njega to verovatno nije ponižavajuće, a ima priliku da neko čuje za njega. Ako dođe sa 18 godina, do 20. je bonus, znači ima 2 godine da se formira kao igrač. Potpišeš ga na 2 godine i ubaciš klauzulu o pravu prečeg potpisa, pa ako pogodiš dobro je. Svakako manja šteta od dovođenja igrača radi sklapanja dilova, a oni jedva da vide teren. Primeri kod nas Hajdin, Milošević i Stefan Ilić iz Spartaka. Ne mislim da su loši igrači, ali njihovo dovođenje je bilo iluzorno. Adžić mlađi je pokazao zavidan potencijal i mislim da može da napravi mnogo veću karijeru od ćaleta, ali to traženje sigurne minutaže ne mogu da progutam. Ne znam da li je to u Zvezdi neko nekada imao. Pa čak ni Siti nije uslovljao toliko oko Ilića. Lotom (talk) 19:44, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Cekaj, nisam razumeo, kazes da u omladincima nema ogranicenja stranaca? FkpCascais (talk) 11:46, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Koliko ja znam, zasad nema. Da ne tražim sad propozicije, pogledaj neke od izveštaja omladinaca Radničkog iz Pirota od prošle sezone i videćeš da je pojedine utakmice odigralo svih 6 Kineza. Lotom (talk) 11:51, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Super ako je tako, ali onda bas kao sto kazes, nema uopste logike da oganicenja budu tako rigoroza na 4 i 2 za SL i PLS, i zabranjeni nizim rangovima...

Nego, onaj Andrew Marveggio secam se da je zurnal najavio bio njegov dolazak jos krajem proleca, i ubacen je na spisku igraca prvog tima na zvanicnom sajtu. Da li da ga ubacimo? FkpCascais (talk) 10:37, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Da, nisam obraćao pažnju da su podigli sajt. Hajde da sačekamo ovaj "Fudbal", jer mnogo klubova nije registrovalo pojačanja za prvo kolo. Tu je on, samo sakriven, pa nije problem. Lotom (talk) 10:55, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Da, video sam da su skoro svi igrali bez pojacanja, nema frke. FkpCascais (talk) 12:29, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Viktor Amos

Aj svaka cast za trud za rad na listi transfera... Je li znas mozda ko je Viktor Amos broj 90 Mladosti iz Lucana? FkpCascais (talk) 11:50, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

CL

Sad samo jos da zaredjamo ovakvih 3-4 sezona u Evropi pa da pocnemo da imamo regularno dva kluba u LS i mogu vala da umrem miran. Svaka vam cast, cestitam! Zao mi je sto mediji nisu vise primetili situaciju koja je slicna nasoj istorijskoj u kojoj smo morali turke i ausrijance da pobedimo da bi peziveli... steta samo sto umesto Velike Sbije napravismo Jugu, tako mislim i otvoreno ovo kazem neka mi samo neko nesto zameri za ovo! Bravo za vas uspeh, samo jos sutra mi da uspemo i ja pucam od zadovoljstva. Ali samo podsecam u komentarima da nasuprot sto je Savic rekao, nije pobedio "srpski inat" vec su golove dali "strana" pojacanja, Degenek asistirao i Ben zakucó. Cirbes slavi na konju, vreme je da prihvatimo da uspeh nam donosi doba selekcija pojacanja, sto uopste ne znaci da je uspeh manje "srpski" vec samo to da smo mi Srbija konacno naucili da pobedjujemo u novim globalizovanim pravilima i da znaci da je nas srpski uspeh svetski, cinimo svet vise nasim, stanci se raduju nasim uspasima jer ucestvuju u njima. Car Dusan je pokorio ceo Balkan sa dobro odabranom gardom germanskih ratnika koja ga je stitila. Sile su one koje umeju svoju kulturu da globalizuju a ne one koje se izoluju. I 1991. je uspeh bio veci sto se slavio od Triglava do Gevgelije, pa i do Rumunije (Belodedic). Bravo braco, da nasu Srbiju vratimo gde joj je mesto, jos samo sutra osmanlije da oladimo i to je san mog zivota! FkpCascais (talk) 01:19, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Dobro, Degenek je Srbin koji igra za Australiju. Čudo je taj krajiški mentalitet. Borjanu isto treba spomenik da dignemo. U celim kvalifikacijama imao je samo onaj pogrešan izlet sinoć, sve ostalo što je morao, branio je. Bena, kao i sve ostale strance koji dođu kod nas, pojedinci pljuju, pišu i govore svašta, ali lik je uvek tamo gde treba. Polušpic u pravom smislu te reči, svaki otpadak je njegov, polušanse pretvara u golove i pakuje kada treba. Milojević sinoć promašio taktiku, ali je imao tu potrebnu dozu sportske sreće, valjda ju je dosad i zaslužio.

Večeras će tek biti jebeno, ovi nisu nimalo naivni, ali teren je jedino merilo. Vama je problem loša selekcija igrača, nešto što je Zvazdu mučilo godinama. Videćemo koliko Mirković i ovaj sastav mogu, ja želim da verujem u pozitivan ishod. Samo, bilo bi lepo kada bi još neki klub ustao iz prašine, pa da imamo više konkurenata za titulu i Evropu. E sad, to bi značilo normalan savez i bolje sudije, čemu se baš i ne nadam previše. Lotom (talk) 08:31, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Po meni ima dva glavna faktora koja su vas doveli do LS

• Jasno opredeljenje Terzica da mu uspeh u Evropi bude cilj. On to jasno javno govori odavno i radio je na tome. Tako se postize LS, a ne stihijski ono kao "Mi ce mo pokusati pa sta bude...". NE! Ko hoce LS mora da je ima kao jasan cilj i da ide radi na tome.
• Dobra domaca i strana pojacanja. Ne moze sa decom da se cilja LS niti sa igracima iz samo nase lige. Ako hocemo uspeh moramo da radimo na selektiranju i dovodjenju sto domacih sto stranih pojacanja.

I ta doza srece koju je Milojevic imao je zasluzena. Sreca se ne pojavljuje slucajno vec radom se cini da se povecaju sanse da te sreca pozlati.

Ono sto vec vidim u Zurnalu i ne slazem se je da je ovaj uspeh Milojevicev. Mislim, jeste njegov naravno, ali je znatno vise Terzicev. I uspeh nije poceo per 14 meseci kad je Milojevic dosao, vec je ova Zvezdina era pocela od kad grof dolazi, Terzic javno zahteva Evropu, i dovode se dobra pojacanja. Milojevic je vec nasledio tim koji je isao ka Evropi, i na njemu je bilo samo da podesi tu i tamo sta gd treba i da nastavi put. Vi ste bili u pevelikoj rupi da bi Grof mogao iz prve da vas dovede do LS, morao da prodje ovaj proces, prvo grof promenio oblik tima, a onda Milojevic vec nasledio tim koji je znao gde se ide i speman bio za borbu. Ali vazno bi bilo vezati uspeh za celu eru, od dolaska Terzica, ovo je po mom misljenju njegov uspeh jer je imao muda da stavi Evropu kao jasan cilj, a ne kao do tada sve nesto stihijski... FkpCascais (talk) 12:29, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Iako Grobar, ja samo umem da gledam na sve stvari objektivno, i sad kao Grobar bi trebao da mrzim Terzica ili nesto, ali ne, moram da dignem kapu coveku koji je umeo da uradi sve sto treba za svoj klub i uspeo. FkpCascais (talk) 12:38, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Ma znam da je Degenek nas naravno, nego gledam iz perspektive dve struje koje vode bitku u nasem fudbalu; Binic, Karasi, Bjekovic, pa i Kokeza, koji sve cine da nasi klubovi moaju da se pojacaju iz ostalih nasih klubova i da im se maksimalno limitira da se pojacavaju s vana, od ovoga gde dovodis strance i "nase" strance poput Degeneka koji nikad pre nije igrao u nasoj ligi.

A sad napad na Carigrad!!! FkpCascais (talk) 12:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Kapiram da braniš Grofa zato što je dovukao gomilu stranaca i to za naše uslove i više nego dobrih, ali ja sumnjam da bismo sa njim dohvatili LŠ i za 10 godina. Čovek ne zna da radi sa ekipom za neke veće domete. Nešto poput Lalatovića, s tim što ovaj drugi ume da stvori igrača, ali ne trpi strance dugo u ekipi, dok prvi uglavnom radije bira gotov proizvod. Posebno što ga je Nikolić poništio pretprošle sezone. Pored Mrkele, tu je još i Kosanović, koga neki zaboravljaju, ali je on izuzetno bitan faktor u ekipi. I generalno, atmosfera je dobra, ali kada se radi, radi se. Milojević traži disciplinu na terenu, bilo da je u pitanju utakmica ili trening. Mene međutim i dalje brine skauting. Za Terzića, bez obzira na to kakvo mišljenje imam o njemu, moram da konstatujem da radi posao. Opet, cela suština priče jeste da Zvezda odavno nije imala ovakvu struku. Iako ni ja nisam verovao u Pavkova, sinoć me je kupio. Eto, moram da priznam da je pogodio sa njim.

Što se mene tiče, neka reši ćoLa mlađi opet, ako treba. Biće teško, ali se ne treba predavati bez borbe. Štoper Žarkova je prognozirao, pa je već "pao na tiketu". Lotom (talk) 13:13, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Ne, ne kazem ja da bi sa Grofom uspeli da udjete ili ne, vec da je Grofova era bila neophodna da bi se do ovde doslo. Grof je ocigledno imao limitacije, ali se Zvezda sa njim promenila u Zvezdu spremnu za ovo sto se postiglo.

Gledam sam, vi ce te od ulaska u LS dobiti 15 plus od Radonje 12 m € ... Masala. FkpCascais (talk) 13:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Pazi Srđa Knežević jos igra i uveo je Zarkovo u PLS :D Nekad mi je bio omiljen stoper! FkpCascais (talk) 13:30, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Dhaka

Razumeem te potpuno, ali lik vec ima broj i vec je bio na klupi, makar ga ubacili ali bez nacionalnosti? FkpCascais (talk) 16:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Nije meni problem što će to da stoji, problem je ako nešto promašimo, to ide na TM, SW i ostale. A znaš i sam da među piskaralima važi ona floskula "specijalizovani" portal. I onda se to prenese svuda. Daj da vidimo ako možemo da izbunarimo šta o njemu, iz Indije je preneo papire, to je sigurno. Lotom (talk) 17:13, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Inače, grupa nam je haos. Ali šta je tu je. Lotom (talk) 17:15, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

CZ dream team

Brate, stvarate pravi drim tim. Secas se da sam tipovao da ce Marin da vam dodje, da to nije bila samo patka? Marin ako bude pametan, da se sad maksimalno uozbilji, ima 29 godina, taman da lepo povede ovu zadnju fazu karijere. Mislim da je pun pogodak, jer iako je "svetska zvezda", nije od onih slucajeva tipa Ailton, koji je bio sit svega i samo je hteo jos da odigra za pare nekoliko sezona, vec se radi o igraci u specificnoj situaciji koji ima pred sobom izazov u kojem ako da maksimum od sebe ima puno toga da dobije. Valjda je pametan i to ce uraditi. A na sve to, Delija je od rodjenja.

Brate, dizem kapu Terzicu maksimalno. Svaka mu cast. Dosao je na celo Zvezde i imao jasno zacrtane ciljeve od pocetka, i radio na njima. Tako treba. A ne kao ovi pre njega ili ovi moji koji se vade na to da moraju da prodaju da bi klub preziveo, pa onda teraju pricu o "afirmisanju mladih" pa onda kao Evropa "sta bude, bude". Tako se nigde ne ide. Mozda ti zvuci cudno da cujes ovo od Grobara, ali ja stvarno verujem da Terza smanjuje dug. Pare od Gasproma, pare od prodaja, pametne kupovine igraca koji se posle prodaju u plusu, i za kraj, sadasnja prodaja Radonja 12 (Zvezdi 10 jel?) plus LS 15 samo za ucesce.

Ja licno cak verujem da ako se zarazite pozitivnom energijom, moguce je i da ostvarite neke rezultate u grupi. Znas sta, Porto kad je pobedio LS tako je poceo, niko nije ni sanjao da ce ni blizu finala stici. I osvojili su je upravo tako, dobar moderan tada mlad trener, Murinjo, simpatican skup dobrih igraca, i dobra energija u timu. Boaci mislim da je dobra opcija jer je lik na Marakani kod kuce, a jak je napadac zaista.

I ne znam tacno zasto, ali ovo mi nesto strasno deluje na 1991. Dve tri sezona spremanja, i onda skup dobrih igraca, i napad na Evropu. Ocekivanja od nule do trofeja. PS: Kanga, Donald i Le Talek mora da se jedu zivi sto su otisli :D FkpCascais (talk) 23:14, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Ja sam i više nego zadovoljan. Normalno, pošto imamo toliko igrača da bi nrp. u PES-u svih 32 mesta bila popunjena uzevši u obzir i malog Erakovića koji je licenciran, ali i povređen, teško će svi do minutaže. Opet, takmičenje na tri fronta, jaka konkurencija... Svi igrači će morati da budu bar 20-30 % spremniji i bolji nego ranije, ako misle da uđu u prvih 18. A za startnu postavu će tek biti pakleno. Za svaku ofanzivnu poziciju konkuriše minimum 3 igrača. Lotom (talk) 13:16, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Gobeljic i ostali

Ma to je onaj lik sto spaja pozajmice, pa mu sve revertujem misleci da su mu svi editi taj fazon. Vecina jesu, ali tu i tamo ima korektnih edita kao sto je ovaj slucaj sto si odlicno video. Poz! FkpCascais (talk) 06:46, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Video sam, slično sam i ja vratio onu izmenu kod Sumaile, s tim što su u pitanju bile izmišljene cifre u infokutiji. Ne smiruju se. Isto tako, neko Pavkovu stalno dodaje cifre 24 (9), 25 (9), 26 (10) i takve za Bački Petrovac. Sve i da je tako, ja to nemam gde da proverim. Lotom (talk) 07:11, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Da, mora da stavi neki izvor. FkpCascais (talk) 07:22, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Smesan mi je ovaj Baba Musavi kako izmisljaju datume rodjenja... Bas se rodio 1/1/2000? Na dan milenijuma? Mozda i jeste ... ali... cudno... FkpCascais (talk) 07:31, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Znaju mu godinu rođenja, ali ne i datum. Mada, postoji i ono pravilo da nekoliko(čini mi se da je konkretna cifra 4) starijih, '99. godišta, mogu pikati za omladince. E sad, to važi za Ligu šampiona, ali ne znam koje je pravilo za domaća takmičenja. Lotom (talk) 07:42, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Onaj Stephen Appiah sto igra u Trayalu izgleda da je igrao u ranijim klubovima da mu je pisalo na dresu "Tonaldo" jer se valjda zove "Stephen Tonaldo Appiah" (onaj iz Vose je bio "Stephen Leroy Appiah"). Ovde je lista YOUTUBE videa tog Stivena Tonalda Apije. Jos uvek mu trazim statistiku za Manila Nomads Sports Club, negde sam je bio video pre par nedelja i statistika je bila strasna, tipa davao je vise golova nego utakmica, ali sad mrka kapa ne mogu da je ponovo nadjem. I sta je bilo sa R. Kragujevac? Su ga prodali za nula dinara Trayalu, iznajmili? FkpCascais (talk) 12:34, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Pa ti znaš da je PLS haos i da se ne zna ko pije, a ko plaća. Poluprofesionalna liga i klubovi nisu u obavezi da daju igračima profi ugovore, te faktički igraju na "golu" registraciju i otvoren ugovor. Možda će nešto da se menja po tom pitanju uskoro, jer je Gašić junior (srednji) na konferenciji pred početak sezone govorio u tome kako će pridošlice da igraju bez profi ugovora do zime. Tako da je moguće da će uskoro da obavežu klubove na taj način, što bi već bila drastična promena. Znaš da i u SL nisu u obavezi da potpisuju profi ugovore da kraja prelaznog roka, po onome što se da videti iz papira. E sad, svi ovi koje je doveo uglavnom su mu već bili saigrači u prethodnim klubovima, a ovi stranci su verovatno stigli u Srbiju preko nekog menadžera i onda šetaju od kluba do kluba. U Kragujevcu se verovatno ne bi ni naigrao, jer je pola Pazove prešlo u KG, bio je jednom valjda u protokolu. Lotom (talk) 12:57, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Prema Soccerway imao je on 2 nastupa za Radnicki ulazeci sa klupe. Napravicu mu sta uspem da skupim. FkpCascais (talk) 13:15, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Ali nema vajde, ne mogu ni datum rodjenja da mu nadjem... Mrka kapa za sada. FkpCascais (talk) 13:30, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

@FkpCascais: Igrom slučaja zatekao sam se sinoć u Subotici, te sam zakačio predstavljanje igrača. Nisam uspeo da izvalim kako se zove novi igrač. Afrikanac je i igra zadnjeg veznog, a dobio je Đuričinov broj. Lotom (talk) 07:37, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Jel se zna vec o kome se radi? FkpCascais (talk) 15:51, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Bassey Inyang Howells... FkpCascais (talk) 16:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Mirkov

Možeš da udariš eksport Mirkova iz tvog sandboxa? Bora83ns (talk) 08:46, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Pozdrav treba mi pomoc oko pravljenja profila za fudbalera

Pozdrav , da li mozemo da stupimo u kontakt putem emaila u vezi posla . Hvala

topsportserbiafootballstarsltd@gmail.com Djaladjala (talk) 05:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@Djaladjala: Ne koristim mejl za takve stvari. Ako je potrebna pomoć i neki savet oko uređivanja članka, pomoći ću koliko mogu, ali nemam previše vremena da se lično bavim pisanjem. Pozdrav! Lotom (talk) 09:50, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

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Miloš Zličić

Pozdrav Lotom, na žalost nisam. Krenuo sam od ove sezone iako dugo pratim. Par nas, drugara, koji volimo naš lokalni klub, htelo je prošle godine da skupi neke informacije i izbaci knjižicu o istoriji kluba. Iz kluba smo dobili najgori mogući odgovor. Da su neodgovorni ljudi vodili klub tokom godina (vode ga i danas), pošto je sve politički u našoj državi zabole ih za ono šta rade, tako da ništa nisu čuvali. Pazite sada, klub postoji 105 godina, mi imamo možda 10 trofeja prvog tima u prostorijama kluba, pošto su one stare BACILI. Zapisnici nisu kompletni ni od jedne sezone. Tako da smo mi odlučili da sve radimo na svoju ruku ubuduće iako za to nećemo dobijati lovu. Neko u Engleskoj ili Španiji bi cenio jedan od najstarijih klubova u zemlji, ja koji živim u tom gradu ne mogu da saznam ništa pošto se sve pobacalo. Što se zapisnika kupova tiče, imam od poslednje dve sezone, ali ne kompletne, samo domaće, tako da džaba. Za Kragovića mogu da ti kažem samo da je tu sezonu bio na pozajmici iz Proletera, a onda je naredne dve [30(3), 27(0)] kada smo izborili treću ligu, ostao i bio nam kapiten. Pozdrav, Kosasanmlad (talk) 15:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Preregistracije

Ne bih se bavio previše preregistracijama, iako nose određenu količinu informacija(oni igrači koji nisu nikad otišli iz nekog kluba se jednostavno neće pojaviti na preregistraciji, samim tim nisu više u tom klubu). Mogli bi malo da požure sa novijim fudbalima... Bora83ns (talk) 16:42, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Pozdrav Lotome, prošao sam ceo dokument, suptilno sam prekontrolisao i tvoje, komotno pogledaj šta sam menjao, pa ubacuj/izbacuj. Sad sam se setio, poravnaću se i sa tvojom stranicom na srpskom, pa se nadam da neće biti previše razlike. Veliko sranje su napravili, da li je dokumentacija počela da im trokira, ali gomila igrača sa 30/2 nema odakle stižu, ima onih 30/1.0 članova, a mnogim igračima su dolazni klubovi neki iz njihove istorije... Užas jedan... Lakše sam one fudbale sa Radničkim 1923 i njihovih 250 transfera na 400+ strana prošao nego ovo... Bora83ns (talk) 11:29, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Pozdrav Lotome. Da li bi mogao englesku stranicu transfera da prođeš, kad budeš imao vremena i da dopuniš sa igračima iz Crvene zvezde i Partizana? Mahom sam završio sve, ostalo mi je da pročešljam ceo BH sistem transfera, i da onda lagano kopkam po netu gde su ovi o kojima nema informacija. Pozdrav, Bora83ns (talk) 15:51, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Pozdrav, evo mene opet. Da li bi mogao da me uputiš na to odakle skupljaš informacije za reprezentativne nastupe? Ovih par klinaca što je zaigralo za Vojvodinu su dobili stranice, a brojke za reprezentativne nastupe mi sigurno nisu dobre za njih... Hvala, pozdrav. Bora83ns (talk) 08:29, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

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Nomination of Stefan Savić (Serbian footballer) for deletion

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Nomination for deletion of Template:OFK Bačka squad

Template:OFK Bačka squad has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 09:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Aleksandar Kršić

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Not notable. Played just one game at top-tier level.

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Proposed deletion of Nikola Đorđević (footballer, born 1993)

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Proposed deletion of Zvonko Jakovljević

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Fails WP:GNG

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Proposed deletion of Marko Bulat (footballer, born 1997)

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This particular Marko Bulat seems to fail WP:GNG

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Proposed deletion of David Dragojević

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Not notable. Never played at top-tier level.

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Proposed deletion of Milan Sekulić

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I found one transfer announcement in Germany but nothing close to WP:GNG.

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Proposed deletion of Dragan Trajković (footballer, born 1997)

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Can't find any SIGCOV

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Proposed deletion of Mladen Stoicev

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Fails WP:GNG as far as I can see

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Nomination of Nikola Nedeljković for deletion

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Nomination of Demir Kadrić for deletion

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Nomination of Ivan Plazinić for deletion

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Nomination of Marko Ristić (footballer, born 1997) for deletion

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Nomination of Milorad Savić for deletion

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Proposed deletion of Nikola Kovačević (footballer, born 1993)

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Not notable. Played just 9 games at top-tier level.

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Nomination of Nikola Đokić for deletion

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Nomination of Mladen Ličina for deletion

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Nomination of Aleksandar Leposavić for deletion

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Nomination for deletion of Template:FK Rad squad

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