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Portuguese certifications

Hi – I saw the message you wrote on Ss112's page about this subject. He is right, the AFP website hasn't worked for a long while, and it's unlikely that you will be able to find any certifications from there. One other possibility is the Hung Medien website at portuguesecharts.com, which used to list certifications next to the song (noted as "PL" or "G" in the "Award" column), from about 2016/2017 to 2019. However, the website seems to have stopped listing certifications, and what's more, it seems to have removed the certifications column from previous years as well. So the only way you can find certifications on that site now is if the web page has been archived for the time period you are looking for – this is what has been done for the Portuguese certifications for "Despacito" and "Someone You Loved", for example. Richard3120 (talk) 13:13, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for letting me know. It’s really odd that they’ve removed the certifications from their site and furthermore removing previous times as well. Wonder why they've decided to do that?

Yes, I think that’s how the Reggaetón Lento (Remix)’s certification was authenticated too, through an archived version of the Hung Medien page. It’s just a shame that we can’t get more recent certifications due to the lack of an authentic or reliable source. Hopefully something will come around sooner rather than later.

Lmarmy (talk) 16:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It might be that they don't have authorisation any more to display that information - the Hung Medien chart sites rely on raising enough funding to pay for the costs of having access to the authorised charts of each country, and are also at the whim of a country withdrawing that authorisation at any time. This happened with the Irish charts for example, which used to be displayed on there. This makes Hung Medien vulnerable to be taken offline at any time - in most cases there are official alternatives, but it could be a problem in the future for smaller countries like Portugal and Greece, where the official chart providers don't appear to have a searchable archives database. Richard3120 (talk) 17:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can I just say that I think that the portalpoponline source you have used for Little Mix certifications in Brazil is hugely suspect? I mean, how could "Woman Like Me" have gone diamond there without even charting? And what does the number mean on the plaque they are holding in the picture? 700 million is clearly not sales within the country – the Beatles and Elvis Presley have only managed 500 million worldwide over 60+ years. So I'm guessing it must be either combined streams or combined YouTube views... which aren't the same as sales. I'm wondering if Portal Pop Online have used an equivalent of 1 stream = 1 sale to make up their own certification levels. Richard3120 (talk) 21:40, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. As far as I’m aware the 700 million number are combined streams not sales. As for the certifications, the plaque has small banners underneath each of singles that state their certification, they’re a little hard to make out, but when I downloaded the photo and zoomed in, they were distinguishable and seem to state what Portal Pop says.

I must say, I was surprised myself to see that ‘Woman Like Me’ had reached such a high certification status considering it wasn’t as successful as their other songs, especially Reggaetón Lento considering it was a collaboration with a Latin American boyband, CNCO. But I suppose I can’t argue with what is being called authentic and official.

Lmarmy (talk) 21:51, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I know the figures on the plaque match what the text says, I'm just puzzled, because they don't match anything on Pro-Musica Brasil's official certification website, which ought to be the final word on these matters – that's why I question whether these really are authentic and official certifications. Richard3120 (talk) 22:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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