User talk:Juanjosemda
November 2024
[edit]Please do not add or change content, as you did at James Albaugh, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. CycloneYoris talk! 07:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- https://colhi68.tripod.com/68roster.html. gives the reference that they graduated from the same high school.... it doesn't mention basketball, so I could just change the phrase to say they were classmates. In my opinion this is interesting since Mattis became secretary of Defense and Albaugh became the CEO of the second largest defense supplier for the Depart of Defense (i.e. Mattis was his customer) Juanjosemda (talk) 21:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Chuck Hull, you may be blocked from editing. The link you're adding does not exist. Please stop adding it. CycloneYoris talk! 07:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.3dsystems.com/press-releases/3d-systems-co-founder-chief-technology-officer-chuck-hull-awarded-national-medal this is the reference I'm trying to add for Hull's job title. Juanjosemda (talk) 17:51, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I guess so. You can try to re-add it since it does seem valid. CycloneYoris talk! 20:52, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- thanks for your patience with a new person Juanjosemda (talk) 21:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- thanks again, I resubmitted Hull and it says it's a pending change (not sure what that means but I will continue to watch it) Juanjosemda (talk) 21:19, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- thanks for your patience with a new person Juanjosemda (talk) 21:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I guess so. You can try to re-add it since it does seem valid. CycloneYoris talk! 20:52, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Leo Terrell. CycloneYoris talk! 07:26, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello,
- I'm all new to this so please forgive me for not getting it right. I will try and get the references. The bad link was an accident on Hull, I was just trying to add his current job title not a new link. I will try again. Juanjosemda (talk) 17:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. I also want to apologize for the rude warnings, but I was just trying to warn you about adding unsourced content. I recommend reading WP:Verifiability and WP:Reliable sources for further information. CycloneYoris talk! 20:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again. On Terrell, is a high school year book reference acceptable? thanks Juanjosemda (talk) 17:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- If you have the link, then I see no problem with it. CycloneYoris talk! 20:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Mr. Yoris, On the Terrell question. I have a hard copy high school year book from 1972 that has him listed as the student body president....it's not on line.... can I use a high school year book reference as a source or is that not considered reliable....thanks again for your patience. John Juanjosemda (talk) 06:42, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
Welcome!
[edit]Hello, Juanjosemda, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Orange County Rescue Mission (December 5)
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- Hello and thanks for your feedback on Orange County Rescue Mission. I'm new so please excuse my question. This is my first article. When I did editing, the editor insisted I site external sources. I think I've done that here. Is the issue that the words are too close to the exact words of the cited sources? Can I still use a reference if I change the wording completely into my own wording? Is it better if I just put the cited sections in quotes and leave them exactly as they were published in the newspapers? Again, sorry for being ignorant on all of this.
- thanks,
- John Juanjosemda (talk) 04:14, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Juanjosemda, fyi, if you want to get the attention of your AfC reviewer, you have to ping them - type @ when replying and this should automatically bring up a drop-down menu with their username in it for you to select. Otherwise you can use Template:U.
- I've deleted your draft as a copyright violation (sorry). At first I thought I could clean out the bits that were directly copied, but it ended up being basically the entire thing. You need to write completely in your own words. Please be sure to avoid WP:CLOP as well. I'll send you a template message with some explanations in a moment. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or go to WP:TEA for help. -- asilvering (talk) 07:07, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering
- Thank you for your coaching on Orange County Rescue Mission. I understand now that everything has to be in my own words. But all of my references and everything that I collected to do the rewording with seems to have disappeared completely from my sandbox, draft pages, etc. Is that what has been deleted? Isn't there somewhere I can get back to what I submitted and use that as the raw material to do my rewrite? If not, can you temporarily undelete it so I can get my work back to use as a starting point?
- thanks,
- john Juanjosemda (talk) 06:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- No, sorry, it's a copyright violation, so we can't host it here. I can give you the list of sources you used, if you need those? -- asilvering (talk) 08:33, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering this is very discouraging to hear. of course I'll take whatever you will send but couldn't you at least email me my work so I have something to start from? I know it didn't look like much but that took me a long time to pull together and I will have to completely redo it as a starting point so I can do what you suggested.
- thanks Juanjosemda (talk) 15:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you will have to completely redo it. Here are the sources you used:
- https://www.christianitytoday.com/2011/01/art-roberta-green-ahmanson/
- https://newsantaana.com/the-founder-of-the-o-c-rescue-mission-will-be-honored-by-the-santa-ana-city-council/
- https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-06-15/jim-palmer-who-help-expand-orange-county-rescue-mission-resigns
- https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/952479552
- https://www.ocregister.com/2012/09/27/whiting-former-motel-child-turns-around-life-of-meth-jail/
- https://www.tustinca.org/821/Village-of-Hope
- https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-02-23-me-1308-story.html
- https://www.latimes.com/b2b/orange-county-visionaries-2024-trends-updates-and-visionaries/bryan-crain
- https://www.citygatenetwork.org/assnfe/CompanyDirectory.asp?MODE=VIEW&SEARCH_TYPE=13&ID=100202
- Good luck with the rewrite! -- asilvering (talk) 22:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering thanks for sending the sources Juanjosemda (talk) 17:45, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you will have to completely redo it. Here are the sources you used:
- No, sorry, it's a copyright violation, so we can't host it here. I can give you the list of sources you used, if you need those? -- asilvering (talk) 08:33, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Avgeekamfot @Asilvering I've just resubmitted the Orange County Rescue Mission Article having rewritten everything in my own words as you both suggested. The only place the words aren't mine is where I quoted there mission statement and I put it in quotes. I hope this attempt makes the grade. thanks Juanjosemda (talk) 06:50, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well, apparently it didn't, but I don't think that's an acceptable decline, so I'll take it up with the declining editor. In any case, please do work on the tone of the draft and resubmit when you're ready. -- asilvering (talk) 16:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering Thanks for your continued help on the orange county rescue mission article. I studied what peacock terms were and then removed any words that could be perceived that way. I resubmitted and also sent a note to the editor that rejected it for the style issue. thanks again. Juanjosemda (talk) 18:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Many reviewers have a personal policy not to review the same article twice, so don't expect another one from them necessarily. It's always good to ping with questions and feedback though. Much appreciated. -- asilvering (talk) 20:10, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering Thanks for your continued help on the orange county rescue mission article. I studied what peacock terms were and then removed any words that could be perceived that way. I resubmitted and also sent a note to the editor that rejected it for the style issue. thanks again. Juanjosemda (talk) 18:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well, apparently it didn't, but I don't think that's an acceptable decline, so I'll take it up with the declining editor. In any case, please do work on the tone of the draft and resubmit when you're ready. -- asilvering (talk) 16:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Juanjosemda!
Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Avgeekamfot (talk) 03:25, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Orange County Rescue Mission (California Homeless Shelter) (December 18)
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- @Samoht27 I reviewed the guidance and studied what peacock terms were. I went through the article and removed any adjective or statement that I thought could be considered a peacock term or being non-objective. Thanks for your effort to improve this article. Juanjosemda (talk) 18:05, 18 December 2024 (UTC)