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Minor League Players

I saw your message on my talk page, I was simply moving players around that had been traded. KENGRIFFEY24FAN (talk) 20:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

@KENGRIFFEY24FAN Understood. Thank you for the notice! Just make sure to use edit summaries in the future (doing so makes it much less likely for your edits to flag as bad faith)  💬 20:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Rolfing

The page for Rolfing is highly skewed toward citations that make Rolfing look like "quackery". I am not a Rolfer but have been rolfed since childhood for scoliosis. What I would consider "quackery" are doctors fusing the spines of 13-year-olds rather than looking for holistic treatments that improve outcomes. Rolfing is similar to acupuncture in that it is an alternative form of therapy - unfortunately, there is a lot less money available to study the effects of Rolfing vs the effects of taking a pill. The Wiki page itself is not neutral and does not contain all the research that HAS been done. Ida Rolf's original book has hundreds of before and after photos that directly show improvement to the naked eye. Many people in sports and dance get Rolfed because it increases their ease of movement and also alleviates pain. Rolfing mainly deals with fascia and the NYTimes recently had an article about how important it is to address issues with fascia (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/well/move/fascia-muscle-health.html). The bottom line is people aren't going to Rolfers to release emotions or align with gravity. They are going because doctors would rather treat back problems with surgery, while Rolfing often provides immediate relief. Rolfing decreases pain and has prevented me from being in a wheelchair. I find it abhorrent that misinformation is all over the Rolfing page, but I don't have time to write a new page or run through footnotes and citations so I won't try to edit the page again. Rolfing will always exist because people who go for treatment enjoy the benefits and will spread the word. Whoever wrote the Rolfing page seems to have a vendetta against holistic treatment. Or maybe they went to a terrible Rolfer. Or most likely they never got Rolfed at all. Thank you. Figure08 (talk) 01:19, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

@Figure08: Your subjective experience does not amount to medical science. tgeorgescu (talk) 07:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Unusual large deletion of cited material

Hello. You deleted a large amount of cited material (6.4 thousand bites) here, clearly not a violation as you asserted of wp:npov, without giving any proper explanation. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Westbrook&diff=prev&oldid=1263126324

That seems quite improper. Can you explain? You can do so on my talk page.

You can also do so there because you also warned me for adding one particular piece of information that you incorrectly asserted violated wp:npov -- and it clearly did not, as it was properly cited.

I would also ask that, after considering this, you self-revert. 184.153.21.19 (talk) 21:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

My reply on your talk page.
trout Self-trout  💬 21:44, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Actually... trout Self-whale... for when a trout just isn't enough  💬 21:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
No worries. BTW, it's not a huge deal, but I wonder whether switching "winningest" to "most successful" is a bit short of accurate. If a coach has the most wins of any coach with a record of 1,000-1,000, and another coach has a record of 999-0, the first would be the winningest but I wonder whether the second might not be seen as the most successful. Your call as to whether to make a change or leave it as it is .. I'm simply pointing it out for your consideration. 184.153.21.19 (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
@184.153.21.19 How about "...trained under Hugo Castello, the multi-championship-winning coach who as of 1998 held the most wins of any college fencing coach in history."?  💬 05:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Looks good. --184.153.21.19 (talk) 06:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

+rollback

Hi Jayhawker6,

After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the rollback group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Users should be informed (or warned) after their edits have been reverted. If warnings repeatedly don't help, WP:ANI is the default place to go. In cases of very clear ongoing intentional damage to the encyclopedia, WP:AIV can be used.
  • Reverting someone's edits may confuse or upset them. Whenever other users message you on your talk page, please take the time to respond to their concerns; accountability is important. For most users who message you, the tone and quality of your answer will permanently influence their opinion about Wikipedia in general.
  • Because the plain default rollback link does not provide any explanatory edit summary, it must not be used to revert good faith contributions, even if these contributions are disruptive. Take the time to write a proper summary whenever you're dealing with a lack of neutrality or verifiability; a short explanation like "[[WP:NPOV|not neutral]]" or "[[WP:INTREF|Please provide a citation]]" is helpful.
  • Rollback may never be used to edit war, which you'll notice to be surprisingly tempting in genuine content disputes. Please especially keep the three-revert rule in mind. If you see others edit warring, please file a report at WP:ANEW. The most helpful essay I've ever seen is WP:DISCFAIL; it is especially important for those who review content regularly.
  • If you encounter private information or threats of physical harm during your patrols, please quickly use Special:EmailUser/Oversight or Special:EmailUser/Emergency; ideally bookmark these pages now. See WP:OS and WP:EMERGENCY for details. If you're regularly patrolling recent changes, you will need both contacts sooner or later, and you'll be happy about the bookmarks.

To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to WP:Sandbox, and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Wikipedia. Happy editing!

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:54, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Pardon me

I accidently translated perestroika on the wrong page. Thank you for reverting. Hariadhi (talk) 05:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

No problem! Good luck with your translation!  💬 05:53, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

I thought I was using the sandbox and trying to get the hang of editing pages but got banned

I am new to editing wikipedia and I want to learn how to do it and saw someone say use the sandbox however after I clicked it and practiced editing things it went on the real page and I got banned. Calebzj2028 (talk) 01:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

@Calebzj2028 Given this abuse log of you trying to insert rickrolls and most of your edits being questionable at best [1] [2] [3], I find this explanation insincere. If you think the assumption that you are WP:NOTHERE to make positive contributions to the project is false, take it up with an admin. So far, I am thoroughly unconvinced, and my guess is any competent admin would come to the same conclusion as I have.  💬 19:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

LTA

Hi, thanks for the explanation to the IP; but to save you trouble I would advise you to not engage with them if you see such a request again per WP:DENY. They know full well what they are doing; anyone who curses the people they are asking to unblock them isn't acting in good faith; they engage in harassment of another user and threats. This user is also banned by the WMF itself, so we can't remove their block even if we wanted to. 331dot (talk) 08:53, 31 December 2024 (UTC)