User talk:Indubitably/Archive 30

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As the adoptive "parent"

I could use some advice on one of your adoptees. Specifically this image and its status at IfD. I specifically request that you not get involved (in the explicit effort to avoid the accusation of canvassing). Let me reiterate, I am asking for your advice, not input on the IfD. — BQZip01 — ^talk 02:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Along those lines, do you think my argument holds water? Or am I on the wrong track? You can just respond here if you wish. No need to track over to my talk page. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps, but I don't think it's worth the drama. LaraLove|Talk 15:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I would concur if it weren't a recurring problem routinely interacting with articles on which I work/have worked. — BQZip01 — ^talk 22:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

GA Open Review proposal

Thank you for your contributions to the discussion on GA process reform at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Good articles/Reform. Based on the suggestions made, a proposal has been set out (at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Good articles/Reform#Open review proposal). Your further input would be very welcome, as there are a number of areas that may need more discussion before this proposal is put to the wider community. All the best, EyeSerene^talk 10:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Buckley GA

Think it's done now. Take a look when you're ready. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 15:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Userpage

As mentioned I'd like you to use your creativity to conjure up a new userpage for me, if you'd be so kind. Something dark and evil (O.o sppppo0o0oky). Any thoughts? — _Maggot^Syn 06:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I will see what I can do. :) LaraLove|Talk 12:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello!

I noticed you joined only two years ago and yet in that time have gotten very involved with and become a strong contributor to Wikipedia. This is to say hello and my thanks for your participations! Tyciol (talk) 18:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) LaraLove|Talk 19:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/L.L.King (2nd)

I noticed your comment on BQZip01's talk page. You seem to be familiar with the history of conflict between Cumulus Clouds and MichaelQSchmidt, which has come to a head at the SSP case I linked above. If you can see a way forward, please let me know and offer your opinion on the SSP case. I hope this can be resolved short of arbitration, but I don't see how that will happen. Yechiel (Shalom) 02:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Lara. You have email about this case. EdJohnston (talk) 13:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Continuing behaviour

Hi Laralove, you might remember months ago you blocked this user Masalai (talk · contribs) for harassment of me. Seems like he is continuing with this edit [1] on the talk page of a user I am having a dispute with. Masalai claims to be a lawyer living in Brisbane (which is coincidentially the same as the user I am having a disagreement with) yet almost all his edits are on Canada. I believe it's a not so subtle personal attack. Michellecrisp (talk) 13:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I have left a warning. --Rodhull andemu 14:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your action on this. I am concerned about continuing discussion about me [2] and in light of WP:LEGAL. Michellecrisp (talk) 23:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that's a legal threat. I think he's saying that were this a real life situation, where he lives, it would be stalking, rather than where he lives the courts would accept this situation as stalking. I could be wrong, though. LaraLove|Talk 04:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the headaches....

I apologize for not staying in communication for these last months, but the incident(s) that brought me back aboard had been settled and I could then spend what free time I could in perusing Wiki Guidelines and procedures. I had been scrupulous since my return to not edit any article, specially those at the root of the earlier contention, so that nothing I did could in any way be claimed as COI.

It was only last week, after 6 months of more knowledgable and far more experienced editors making edits and improvements to the Michael Q. Schmidt article, that the article itself was once more deconstructed with absolutely no regard to the consensus reached by the earlier AfD... and it was being chopped apart in the exact same manner that had been done previously and by that same editor. When once more having false statements attributed to me, I fely I had to rebutt. Not actively editing does not mean one has abandoned Wiki, only that one knows to let more experienced persons do what they do best and to continue the learning process. Your school has been extremely helpful.

The mistakes I made last year as Mqschmidt were the mistakes of a total neophyte. I did not know what I was doing of how to do it. Leaving Wiki in a huff and not even then knowing or caring about the account being blocked was the actions of a very frustated. I will not defend L.L.King and group for their misuse of Wiki, as they broke many rules and were accordingly chastised. But I stress again... I have never instructed the King group to use Wiki. If you pay the pizza guy who delivers your pizza, and then he kills someone, is it right for you to then be accused as paying off a murderer? The "accusation" is true that you paid a murderer. But without the context of why you paid him or what he was doing for that pay, the accusation will stand as equally damning and make you appear complicit in the murder.

Again, thank you for your forbearance. I did not return as User:MichaelQSchmidt to circumvent a block. I did not return to hide or deceive. I have been as open and above-board as possible. If it turns that I am to be sanctioned for returning to Wiki, then fine... and I will accept what transpires. My pique last January has been tempered by wiser editors such as yourself and I think that most admins might agree that I have not been "disruptive" in any sense since your adoption of me last January. Your intervention was as helpful as it was intended. Again, thanks. Michael Q. Schmidt (talk) 22:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh Lara... that drama boat has long since sailed... but any who want to have hours (if not days) of fun reading can peruse the histories. Again, thank you for your positive example of temperance. Michael Q. Schmidt (talk) 01:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Something you may which to add to or then again you may not given there has been plenty of drama bu then again I think this one is going to be more positive and end on a good note

Not the succicnt heading - Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Dorftrottel - ? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Lara

I am doing a little homework(not) (I just feel like flirtig)(lol)(im only 12 so we could never work out). Which article that you created are you most proud of?Gears Of War 00:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You? Flirting with Lara? Major ick. Excuse me while I find a basin. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 00:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol.Gears Of War 00:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I seriously hope you were joking. because i will bill you for the large cost of cleaning m ruined basin. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 00:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol, nice to meet you Sam. I'm GoW. Its always good to make new friends. You and Lara will make good friends. And you funny dude.Gears Of War 00:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Im too am 12, i hate to sing, and sadly, all my friends love math(i hate my friends). My fav subject(of couse cause im a jock) is Phycical Education.Gears Of War 00:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

She's my adopter. Gives tough assignments. And nice to meet you too, GoW. Always good to meet people around my age. BTW, I'm selling a light-ochre colored basin...

I play sports and hang out with jocks, not that I am one. And if you hate your friends, find some new ones. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 00:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

My adopter is Red Thunder, also as a fellow GH3 lover, I would like to present you with this:

This user prefers Guitar Hero 3 over Rock band.

. Use it well young one.Gears Of War 00:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm undecided. They're both great. But my 360's out of commission for the time being. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 00:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Well nice to meet you, I will deffinently be watching you edits(in other words i'll be stalking your edits), and maybe one day we'll both end up admins. I'll keep an eye out 4 u. Call me Lara, lol.Gears Of War 01:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I might watch over you too. To us being admins! And on the lara call me bit, bleh! Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 01:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Riiiiight. Okay, well, I've turned lesbian... so sorry to disappoint on that. Uhm, so the original question, I'm most proud of Hogettes as far as articles I created. Another you may be interested in (I didn't create this one, but I helped build it from scratch) is Knitta. For articles I greatly contributed to, it would be Maynard James Keenan. You'll note from these that I write the articles of the utmost importance. The hard-hitting topics that are essential to building a successful encyclopedia. These are the articles that make Wikipedia > Brittanica. That's what I tell myself anyway. ;) LaraLove|Talk 05:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Lara.Gears Of War 13:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Both of you guys, don't click on the image I linked. It's really gross.

And Lara, I'd suggest you have Keeper play your fake boyfriend, but he's married and has a mortgage. If this ever happens again, try Tanthalas39. :D Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 13:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Married with a mortgage... I wonder what that's like. >_>

I'm never dating again or anything resembling it, so it's all good. LaraLove|Talk 13:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sadly last night I clicked on the image and blew chunks of my own...DISGUSTING IT TELL U!!Gears Of War 13:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

The hours my dad works, apparently not good.

No, I mean a cardboard cutout to post when weird 12 year olds try and flirt with you (i wasn't flirting, just trying to bring humor to the situation).

Wow, Gow...you really puked after seeing that picture? Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 13:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it caught me off gaurd. I thought you were just leading me to a article or something. When I saw the picture I almost threw up right then and there. Who is that guy?Gears Of War 13:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

According to the URL, a guy named Zeke. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 13:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, Zeke needs to lay off the carry out.Gears Of War 13:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I was going to say clam chowder, but that's more like Italian wedding soup. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 13:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

<-- ...and This conversation is precisely why I stopped watchlisting other people's talk pages... zomg. UltraExactZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 13:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey! My weird 12 year old sens eof humor thinks that it's funny! Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 13:54, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Mines too, I am offended, we shall shun you. *Starts humming* *Shun*.Gears Of War 13:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Ultraexactzz, the gates have closed! Don't worry, this image is totally appropriate. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 13:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, guys, you have your own talk pages. I don't need orange banners when I'm trying to work for someone else's conversation, ya know? kthxbai. LaraLove|Talk 14:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA

My apologies. I promise to research more carefully. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 12:39, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Aye aye, captain!

PS Your Chinchillas are sooooo cute! Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 13:20, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) LaraLove|Talk 19:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Critique

I think it was that color that made me delete the whole damn thing in the first place. I'm trying to figure out a color scheme in which the whole page is dark (as in gothic dark, evil for lack of a better word; that kind of dark) and still allow for a basic font color to be seen. I'd also like the userpage template, along with your name on the top; and the barnstar section closest to the bottom (if thats no trouble). I like to give credit to where its due, and seeing your name at the bottom left me with the impression that you tend to shy away from giving yourself credit (much like where I want my barnstars). Other than that I like it. Thank you. — _Maggot^Syn 13:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I see that. Oh well. I'm going to change the color back, but keep the overall format the same later on. Thanks again. — _Maggot^Syn 13:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Could I have a second pair of eyes?

I'm not sure what to make of this. It's boiling up out of a content dispute (of very little merit IMHO) on Talk:Adolf Hitler and has now reached here and I'm not sure where to go next. Am I out of line or am I being trolled? This is a 3-day old editor with an interesting Contrib history and I'm not sure it isn't, er, a previous user. If you could spare a little time, I'd be grateful. Ta. --Rodhull andemu 19:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Seems to have gone quiet. nemmind. --Rodhull andemu 07:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I looked into in a bit, but then was pulled away and didn't return. I would say, if it's gone quiet, just let it go. If it starts up again, let me know. LaraLove|Talk 07:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Fascinating. LaraLove|Talk 07:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Your Imperial Majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow these Imperial Triple Crown Jewels in recognition of your contributions to Wikipedia in the realms of music both hard and soft. May you wear them well. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweeeeet! Thank you! :D LaraLove|Talk 20:17, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA Chellenge 2 Completed

See it at User:Shapiros10/RFA Work. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 17:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll look over it now. LaraLove|Talk 20:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

My userpage

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		I humbly thank you for taking the time you took in creating my userpage from scratch, and for putting up with my anal retentiveness along the way. I'm blown away by it. :) — _Maggot^Syn 19:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm so glad you like it! I'll tweak it a bit more later. LaraLove|Talk 20:19, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Lara, you did a good job! Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 22:47, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

User page designing

Ohai. You probably remember me from when I asked you to adopt me. Well, I have no need for another adopter now. I've gained much experience since I last met you. :) Anyway, the reason I came is that I would like you to join the Wikipedia:User Page Design Center/Help and collaboration! I saw the work you did to renovate a user's user page above and I think you could be of help with our project. I design user pages myself also. I basically took the job of User:Phaedriel. Her work will always be admired so I decided to follow in her footsteps. So, do you want to join? If so (I hope so), just add your name here and here and you'll be all set. I'll be waiting for your response. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 13:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Lara i didnt know you did page designs. My page could really use a spruce up.Gears Of War 13:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I could do it for you. Your Red Thunder's adoptee, right? Him and me are good wiki-friends. :) He would be surprised if I redesigned your user page. But it's your choice though. -- RyRy5 (talk) 14:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

— _Maggot^Syn 14:54, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

While I appreciate the offer, I rarely do userpage designs, and even more rarely by request. I offer it to wiki-friends every so often when I want to do something special for them... or when their page is a hot mess. I actually don't even recall whose pages I've done other than Syn and the_undertow. LaraLove|Talk 17:11, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, so im gonna get RyRy5 to do it, thanks for considering.Gears Of War 17:12, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

No worries LaraLove, you didn't have to accept the offer. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 21:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Peace

Lara,

I want to respond to your email. I don't want to do it publicly, but I am unwilling to share emails, because with IP's addresses, I might give out my personal information. I'd rather not do that.

Any ideas? Or would you like me to respond her publicly? Your choice. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 01:30, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Butting in (it looks like Lara's offline) but you can email without disclosing your email/IP address by using the WP "email this user" feature, which will route it via the WMF server. – iridescent 01:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Orangemarlin. As Iridescent said, if you reply to my email, it will reveal to me your email. However, if you click the email link above (use the WP interface) I will not be able to see your email address. Note that in my email to you it only says Wikipedia email from LaraLove. Alternatively, you could set up a Gmail account for use on Wikipedia, that way you can respond to emails without revealing your location via ISP address, as Gmail (as far as I know) does not link to your personal information... it's also free. LaraLove|Talk 02:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Help...the formatting on his talk page is all wonky. no good at code (shuffles feet and looks at floor) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:42, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha. Hey, Casliber. I don't know what's wrong. I tried various different codes and I couldn't get my message out of your award... I'm not sure. ~~It has to be something with his custom design code.~~ I'll go look again, because he'll want to have people be able to easily leave messages without them being framed in your award, which looks to be coded normally. XD LaraLove|Talk 02:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Scratch that. He doesn't have a custom design on his talk page, thus it must be your fault! Hahaa, okay, going back once more. LaraLove|Talk 02:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it, it just needed a |- SQL ^{Query me!} 02:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Kewl. I can do bits and pieces but generally things go pear-shaped very quickly once it gets a bit complicated (which is why I got a nice person to do my user page in the first place (hehehe)...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I just put it on the next line and it worked. Ha! I would have saved 2kb... I win! :p LaraLove|Talk 02:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

reminds me of squeezing out all those pesky spaces in cite refs when your FAC article is over 100kb in hte vain hope it will make it small enough.....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Haha... ah, that brings back memories of Elvis... what a nightmare. LaraLove|Talk 03:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to pop in uninvited, but the information above is not correct. If you e-mail someone through the Wikipedia interface it doesn't show an IP address but does show whichever e-mail address the user has registered to Wikipedia. --JayHenry (talk) 03:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Tru.dat. I just double checked. It doesn't display until you click reply. So, well, \o/ for Gmail. LaraLove|Talk 03:58, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

(outdent)...Tru dat. You're not watching The Wire as well then? This is the only place I heard that expression...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:05, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't recall exactly when I picked up tru.dat. But I know it was during my gamer chick years. We use tru.dat to resemble a file name. Other than that, I have no idea of its origins. LaraLove|Talk 04:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Butting in... Tru dat has been around for at least 10 years (but more probably since the late 70s if I were to put money on it). On the other hand, my favorite phrase from The Wire is Omar's "Oh, indeed." Butting back out... Antelan^talk 05:07, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Ahaaa - crossed wires, gotta love 'em. What a clever saying....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

←Catching up on my reading. I will reply soon. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 07:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I was heading to bed almost three hours ago when I stumbled upon a tragedy revealed upon a talk page. I was left with an overwhelming desire to write poetry as a token of sympathy. I am now utterly exhausted, as it's almost 4am. I do, however, look forward to your response to my email, once again urging the use of Gmail, as it will secure your anonymity. I am sure to be awakened by the pitter patter of four tiny feet in approximately four hours, so a reply from me should not be too delayed. Sleep well, as I hope I may with the few short hours I've allowed for myself. LaraLove|Talk 07:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Lara

Thank you so much for your words of comfort at this dreadful time. Isaac is here with me at home, and will stay here for the condolence viewing calls until the funeral on Thursday. It gives me comfort to have him so close until we are definitely and finally parted.

Your words and thoughts mean the world to me, and give me the courage to face the coming time alone. Thank G*d for my job. I will be back at work next Monday, which will help to distract me from everything which has happened. Jeffpw (talk) 14:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't know the details, but I hope you are able to soon find peace. Sincerest regards, LaraLove|Talk 15:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Response

I am still going to write you personally, but I'm quite busy in the real world right now (you know Murphy's Law? Well, Murphy has decided to hang out in my company, and he's in a very bad mood). I do not rescind my opinion (well-supported by any number of citations) that White Pride as an organization is definitely racist and as an attitude (I guess that's white pride in lower case), it's marginally different. However, based on what you've been saying publicly, I'm going to take you at your word, and I want start with the proverbial blank slate. It's not quite an apology, more of a "group hug", know that there are differences in opinion. I'll tell you more privately, where we might be able to be more open in our conversation. But if any of the above isn't clear (and I'm only on my first cup of coffee), I would really like water to pass under the bridge and out to sea. I'm bad with metaphors. :) OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 17:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the response, I appreciate it. I look forward to discussing this with you privately, as I think it will lead to some understanding on both sides, and will hopefully edify an amicable end to this whole matter. LaraLove|Talk 17:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)