User talk:HarvestFan77/Archive2

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Re:Harvest (band)

My original post to Sucrine:

Harvest (band)

Hello Sucrine,

I see that you've made some edits to the Harvest (band) article. Thanks for your contributions.

Just wondering what you think of the band? Did you ever see them in concert? Do you own any of Harvest's albums?

What are some of your ideas for expanding the Harvest article? I've got a few of my own that I could share with you if you're interested.

Looking forward to your reply,

Harvester^talk 20:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

No, i don't know anything about them. I'm just doing some clean up of articles about Christian music. But I have an idea to improve the article: make a page for each album and just put the link on the main article. -Sucrine ( ><> talk) 20:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

It's Alright Now sound clips

I was wondering where you were able to get the sound clips for Harvest's album, "It's Alright Now?" I grew up listening to that LP. I think my parents still have it but no one has a record player. Were you able to find one or make your own digital copy? If so, do you know how and where I could obtain a copy for my parents? They would get a big kick out of it.

Thanks for your time and your helpful submission. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sixerzealot (talk • contribs) 06:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

Hello Sixerzealot,

I have a cassette tape of the album "It's Alright Now." I also have a CD that I purchased from Rock Solid Music

( http://www.rocksolidmusic.com/ ). You could purchase the CD there, or on eBay - where I've sometimes seen the album for sale. Hope this helps you in getting a digital copy for your parents.

Did you ever make it to a concert of Harvest? What did you think of the article? Did you have anything that you'd like to add to their history?

Thanks for writing. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Harvester^talk 20:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

re:Regarding the Harvest page.

My original post to Moe:

Regarding the Harvest page.

Hello Moe Epsilon,

Wow, looks like you were very busy editing the Harvest page.

You referred edit readers to "Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria items #3(a) and #8)." Thank you for the reference.

Regarding #3(a): I agree that I went way beyond minimal use, although I will say that this was without knowing of the 10 non-free content rules. My question is, does this mean that you needed to remove all album cover images and music samples? When I added the images, I was using "The Beatles" article as a reference. Looking at it now, I see that "The Beatles Discography" is without images, although the main article still contains music samples. Does minimal use mean "No use"? (referring to there being no images at all on the Harvest page). Why is showing album cover art excessive? I have a feeling I'm asking a common question.

Regarding #8 (significance): Is the discography considered a list? I would assume so. I guess this would be why no image- photo or song sample is allowed within it. I would think this rule alone would suffice for removing all of the images I had put in the article, since they were all within the Discography section. Would it be acceptable to create a separate section for music samples, as in the Beatles article? If so, how many music samples would be allowed? 25?, as in that article?

I would really appreciate you responding to this post. I would like to know what you think. And I would also like to find out if any of the images/samples I uploaded are salvageable. This would save me time in re-uploading if they are.

Thanks for your time and efforts in editing,

Harvester^talk 22:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

About the Fair Use on the Harvest article: It is considered Fair Use when you have an entire body of text written next to the Image. I think it's pretty much consensus on Wikipedia that discography sections or articles cannot be just gallery formatted, although yours had a track listing, it was still very much looking like a decoration rather than for the purpose of encyclopedic content. We can save those Images and the good rationales on the covers if you could create decent articles for those albums. I don't listen to Harvest, so I don't know about the music much. Yes the discography was considered a list. There's also a difference between The Beatles and Harvest, The Beatles may be considered one of the most popular bands of all-time, while Harvest hardly has any popularity compared to them. Most of the audio files on The Beatles article are also #1 hits or "top hits" I believe. It would be Fair Use to include 1 or two of the most popular songs by Harvest, yes, but not 25 songs when most of the songs are unnotable. I'm actually going to bring up the large amount of audio files on The Beatles later to see if we can achieve a more minimul use than 25, because 25 is overly excessive. I hope this answered you're questions, if you're still confused or I forgot to answer something, tell me. If you need help you can just send me another message and I'll try to help you. — Moe ε 00:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, Moe,

Is it possible to restore one of the audio files that I used to have in the Harvest article? Does Wikipedia have some kind of an archive of deleted samples, or do I need to re-upload?

I would like to re-add the music sample for the song, "Because I Am". I would be incorporating it into the main article for the band, as it refers to the song.

Thanks for any help,

Harvester^talk 14:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I would try to re-upload the sound file rather than try to restore it. Just make sure it follows our Fair Use policy on audio files and you should be fine. Regards, — Moe ε 15:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Instructions on archiving a talk page.

I've created a list of step-by-step instructions on my own talk page on how to archive your User talk page. They also apply to any article's talk page. Let me know if I listed them correctly. The link here should go directly to the section on my talk page, but doesn't seem to be working properly for me. 5Q5 18:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:5Q5#Regarding_archiving_talk_pages

I'm revising my set of instructions, correcting the few problems you mentioned. There are slightly different ways to create a talk page archive and I rushed the list. I had the same idea about making it available to others. I'll try to post it both on the Wiki how-to archive page and on my user page after I've tested it. I'll have to delete our discussion and the faulty list from my talk page (but it'll still be in the history so it won't really gone from Wikipedia). Thanks for the feedback. 5Q5 19:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Update - Archiving tip

Since creating the step by step instructions on my User page, I have learned that if an archive is named "Archive1" (no space), a wiki bot will eventually come along and redirect the link to a page named "Archive 1" (with a space) so that all archive pages conform to this standard. An archive page named Archive1 (or 2, etc.) will still work, but you may want to monitor the history page of the archive to see when the bot visited and renamed it. You can then go into the source code of the current talk page and just add a space between Archive and 1 (then test in Preview to make sure everything works). I had to do this on the Psychokinesis Talk page, where I had named the archive pages "archive1" and "archive2." I changed them to "Archive 1" and "Archive 2." I've updated my instructions list on my User page. 5Q5 14:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I'll keep my eyes open for the bot. Thanks again for your help, Harvester^talk 14:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Request for feedback on the Harvest template.

My original post to Sucrine:

Request for feedback on the Harvest template.

Hello Sucrine,

I see that you removed the "Related Content" section of the Harvest template.

Could you let me know your reasoning for doing this? You didn't post an edit summary with your edit.

In my opinion, both Jesus Music and the List of Contemporary Christian Music Artists are related to the band, but I'd like to hear your point of view.

Thanks for your time spent editing,

Harvester^talk 23:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

It's because the other band templates don't have a section for related content. I think it's good to have a uniformity between the templates. -Sucrine ( ><> talk) 11:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Sucrine,

Thanks for your explanation. Makes sense to me.

Sincerely,

Harvester^talk 14:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC)