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The Incredible String Band

I seem to remember you are/were a fan of this outfit. I noticed in the article's singles discography there is reference to "Way Back In The 1960s" / "Chinese White" (Elektra, 1967) which did not exist according to [1]

  1. ^ Strong, Martin C. (2000). The Great Rock Discography (5th ed.). Edinburgh: Mojo Books. pp. 473–474. ISBN 1-84195-017-3.

Reading from that source, their first single release was "Painting Box" / "No Sleep Blues" in March 1968. Is Strong wrong ? Any comments ?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 12:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Strong wrong, I think - this has it down as EKSN 45013, and here we have a label shot (albeit of a promo copy). Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Ta, I thought you might know. I deliberately left the single in the discography, assuming Strong was not invincible. Hope you are well.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
It was a promo-only issue, apparently - now clarified. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:48, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: "...the song SHE sang..." I listened to it to assure myself that I had it correct, and (good grief!) discovered I've been hearing it (and singing it) wrong for the last 40 years. I stand corrected, sir. Stephen Foster (talk) 16:25, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK problem

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The Silures

Hi. Still not sure how to use this really so many apologies if it's wrong. I made an amendment to the Silures page to state that the tribe would certainly not have been kind enough to respect a border that did not come into being for many hundreds of years later. The "footprint" of the Silures on most maps that seriously attempt to place them, including the one on the mentioned page, has the tribe's footprint into parts of what is now England and generally Herefordshire and Gloucestershire, although some have Avon/Somerset as a small part of the footprint. The same can be said for the other British tribes up to the first century as they would not be constricted by any future borders and it is rather a shame to use on certain pages a map of modern day Wales to show historical data when there are much better maps available but I am not skilled enough to be able to make such changes or suggestions. I hope I haven't caused a problem. regards.

77.89.134.201 (talk) 15:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

That's fair enough. Most of the sources that I've read, such as this one, describe them as a tribe of "south east Wales" - obviously Wales did not exist at the time, but the River Wye certainly did, and was probably primarily a natural barrier, separating different groups, as well as being a trade route. The "boundary" between the Silures and other groups was probably never fixed, fluctuated, and in detail is unknown, though it may be possible to gain some insight from archaeological finds, the shape of hillforts, and so on. The map in the article, showing the current Wales boundary, is useful simply for orientation, I think. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
I do have another source, this, which says of the Silures: "Their eastern boundary was the Wye, and possibly their northern boundary too..." Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

I think your points are valid and I have seen your contributions throughout wiki which generally prove to be well thought out or referenced. It is difficult to determine accuracy on certain matters without more evidence or source material and agree the natural barriers would have formed some sort of border but to show celtic tribes, or indeed the Welsh, within the borders of a 21st century map I believe is misleading since either the border did not exist or was different from what we have now. I see no harm in including the border as a reference point but to show it as a permanent borderline after which something or someone totally different might exist must be false. I believe that to appreciate the data it would be sensible, as some maps already in Wiki do, is merely overlay the area with modern day boundaries for reference only rather than have tribes, kingdoms, etc stop at a boundary which did not exist in context. Appreciate your views. Regards

77.89.134.201 (talk) 09:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I think we agree that the areas of the tribes should not be shown with boundaries, and that the modern Wales boundary is useful for reference and orientation. In my view, the map doesn't suggest that the line was a "permanent border" - I've just added to the caption, to make clear that it is shown for reference purposes only. My only query over the map (and it's a minor point which I wouldn't have raised if you hadn't raised it first) is whether the word Silures on the map should be shown, as it now is, extending north-east of the River Wye beyond Hereford. I think it is common ground that their territory extended up to the Wye, over the area which became Ergyng and later Archenfield which is now in Herefordshire and thus England - but it is uncertain whether their territory extended further into Herefordshire or over the Forest of Dean (in Gloucestershire). But all those things are uncertain and unknowable, and I have no real problem with the current map, which was drawn by User:Notuncurious. I'll copy this exchange over to the article talk page, so that editors can comment if they want. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree, I think the map on this article is fine and the extent of the Silures could either be moved slightly north or south but mostly happy where it is. Anything else would be conjecture I suppose. I think similar maps should be used where similar subject matters are on Wiki. The map at "Ordovices" for example seems to be a generic modern day map that's used in lots of places/pages but falls appallingly short of its intended purpose due to the definitive border and gives a very false impression. Would you agree?

77.89.134.201 (talk) 15:16, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely - I'd forgotten about that map. I've replaced it with the newer one at Ordovices - as far as I'm concerned, I suggest you go ahead and replace any others you come across (though others may disagree). Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:26, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I would feel much happier referring possible changes to yourself, if you're not overworked, and you can take a view on whether it's an improvement or not. Regards.

77.89.134.201 (talk) 16:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

The Artwoods

Hi Ghmyrtle! I've been adding inline references to The Artwoods article since I noticed the 'unreferenced' template on top of the page. I figured that you've created the article Art Wood. I'm guessing you know about the band. I thought maybe you'd like to see how The Artwoods article look so far? Thanks in advance ~ Elitropia (talk) 10:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. I've tweaked the intro a little, and removed the tag as clearly it's well referenced now. User:Derek R Bullamore is the main man for articles on UK pop, so you might want to ask him to take a look at it as well. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I mainly added references for what was written there. Thanks for the fixes! ~ Elitropia (talk) 10:59, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jaibi

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DYK nomination of Rita Abrams

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Rhythm and Blues

OK. How about just using the R&B Overseas, as I mentioned in one of my comments, or some such as a heading for a dfferent section? Steve Pastor (talk) 16:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I have have a draft on British R&B in my sandbox. If you get time perhaps you could cast your eyes over it and see if it says what needs to be said. It has struck me that it is long in comparisson with the whole article, so I am entertaining the idea of creating a new article and perhaps trying to come up with a shorter summary for the R&B article. Of course it may be that the R&B article is just too short. Thanks.--SabreBD (talk) 08:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Great! I'll respond on the sandbox talk page. It looks to me like it may eventually lead to a new article (linked from R&B), but we'll see how it goes. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

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British Isles

Well, either tell me or don't tell but don't give me a lecture. Someone said HighKing is Irish. Is he confusing British with English or something? Genetically, everyone on the British Isles are pretty much of the same stock. Unless, of course, you come from the Punjab or something. I am sorry don't know who you are and I do not remember ever addressing you. Thank you. --Triton Rocker (talk) 15:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

You are making edits - knowingly or not - in subject areas which are highly contentious, and have involved many editors over many years in trying to find constructive ways forward. If you persist in making such edits, you are likely to face difficulties in continuing to do so. Incidentally, your idea that "genetically, everyone on the British Isles are pretty much of the same stock" is also strongly disputed. Bear in mind that Ireland, for example, was an island long before GB was separated from the European mainland. I fully accept that there has been a great deal of genetic mixing between the people of the islands over the last 2000 years or so - but that is not the point. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

So, it is a kind of Prehistoric, Post-Ice Age, Independence movement thing then? The problem with that is, it was not called Ireland back then either. I am sorry, I still do not understand what you - and their - point of view is. Can you state it clearly? All I saw was a whole load of wordy bad English, where a simple consistency would fix it. For me, what this website is missing is clear editorial consistency which I don't think you can achieve by mob rule. Thank you. --Triton Rocker (talk) 15:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by "their" point of view. There are two countries in these islands - the United Kingdom and Ireland. The "British Isles" is not a country. The use of that term is contentious, and, if you don't understand why, then you perhaps need to read up on the history of Ireland. More to the point, there are ongoing efforts to rationalise the way the term "British Isles" is used on WP, and one of the key points is that changes should not be made to either add in, or take out, that term, unless there is consensus between editors. That's a pretty good rule to adopt generally anyway - if the changes you make are contested, you need to discuss them on talk pages and not edit war. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
" There are two countries in these islands " dont let certain editors hear you say that! lmao BritishWatcher (talk) 08:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
You're quite correct - I've now linked it to sovereign states. Thanks to BW for taking such a close interest in my talk page, and apologies to any other editors offended by my (hopefully only occasional) incompetence. :-) Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Rita Abrams

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Migration Period

Hi . As you may have guessed already I am not a native English speaker . But I am still surprised that you have undone my latest edit with the following remark:" sorry, but this is not written in plain English and parts are incomprehensible" . I feel almost sad, and I would have expected that this particular edit of mine could not so easily be undone . I must say, that I am not convinced you are right . So unless you can give any specific examples - which might also be helpful towards succinct phrasing - I am going to revert your edit. Please note that I am not in a hurry . I am aware that my edit is using complex and fanciful language, but this is not 'Simple English', and it was not intended to be that . I would also welcome any comments and criticiscm, regarding content or language phrasing, as I do not feel 100% confident in using English, and also cannot profess infallibility in knowledge of history . Fell free to use my talk page . Many regards, Sechinsic (talk) 07:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I have created User:Sechinsic/migration01 with the text you undid, as it might be more convenient for proofreading . Sechinsic (talk) 07:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I've taken a quick look at your first paragraph, and I can see no benefit in including any of your suggested rewordings. You use terms like "unequivocal reference", "societal transition", "historiography", "periodization", "tribal enclaves", "paraphrased as", "genuinely migrating", and "contestable theme", in contexts and ways which are unnecessary, and/or confusing, and would not be used by a native English speaker. However, I'm sure that your sources are valid and useful, and that your draft text can be revised in such a way as to add value to the article. Thanks for setting up the sandbox - we can discuss further the precise words to be used, although if other editors more knowledgeable than I are to comment it may be better to discuss it on the article talk page. Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I have considered your input. It seems that you are complaining about complexity, and I have rewritten the first part into shorter sentences. I would appeal to you to consider the actual meaning of the words, and to consider that I have chosen what words I found would be best to use in the context . I have put a notice on the talk page, and altered the layout of User:Sechinsic/migration01 to accomodate for any comments . Sechinsic (talk) 10:28, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Idea

I'm half thinking of making up a barnstar along the lines of being accused of being part of a Fenian conspiracy to subvert all that is good and right within the world. --Snowded TALK 08:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Reverting today's edit of Migration Period

It is true that my edit of the 16th was reverted and commented, and I have even found this to be constructive and inducive to refining the rephrasing of the intro and the 'chronology'-section . But it has also been a one-sided experience . Only one editor - namely Johnbod - has found time to comment, or two editors in total when counting you . Both of you have addressed the language, but neither of you has given any feedback on the changes I made .

In your final entry on the talk page you do emphasize your focus on language . Seeing that wikipedia is open for everyone to edit, I presume that your emphasis on language can count as argument for reverting my edit . It is therefore confusing that you write in the informationfield:"No - you need to await comments from others before making these changes, per talk." I am afraid I cannot follow your logic, and to be honest, it looks to me like you do not like what I have written .

But yes, I will wait a couple of days then . Sechinsic (talk) 11:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

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Average White Band

Are you any good with templates ? I tried to edit the AWB's template but it just came up with - '[[Roger Ball (musician) | Roger Ball], Saxophone and Keyboards'. I do not know what to do - any suggestions ? Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Derek - I'm not sure what it is you're trying to do... If you want to edit the template, you click on the little e (in the row v . d . e) in the box at the foot of the article page. Does that help? I don't actually know what Template:Average White Band itself does! Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:50, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, I thought I would improve the template's formatting and update the discography. However, when I pressed the e button it just came up with what I wrote earlier - which seems a bit odd. I am not sure what any of these multitudinous band templates 'do' as such, so maybe I should leave well alone !?
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Aha!! - it seems as though some bot has messed it up. If you go here and click the "Edit this page" tab at the top - not the little e - it brings up the editable version. Heaven knows what's happened there, and I'm not sure where it can be raised - perhaps at Template talk:Average White Band navbox ? Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks. I have edited the template accordingly, and raised the problem at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion. Goodness knows if that is the right place, but fingers crossed. Thanks again,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

H. P. Lovecraft article

Good work fixing my spelling mistakes and such on the H. P. Lovecraft article. I've basically re-writen the non-original text that was in the article now, but I will be doing more editing and adding new refs to the remainer of the article over the coming days. I just wanted to ask you if you had a reliable third party ref for the sentence about the band's harmonies having been "influenced by folk singer Fred Neil's work with Vince Martin"? I couldn't seem to find a reference to this anywhere yesterday and I just wondered where it came from. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 12:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Why, thank you for the cookie! That's made me hungry now. I thought that it was about time for H. P. Lovecraft’s two albums to get their own articles. I'm planning to expand H. P. Lovecraft II over the next few days but it'll suffice for the time being. Well done on adding the wikilink to Billy Ed Wheeler by the way, don't know how I missed that. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 13:25, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi! Saw yor comment and revised hook at the DYK page. Yes, I think that's much better and I've left a reply stating as much. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, I didn't have time to get on Wikipedia yesterday. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 10:17, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Marsden

I've got an aversion to using a phrase like "powerful and soulful" in an article, most especially not in quotes, uncredited and in a lede. It's one reviewer's opinion, and seems to me inappropriate. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for British rhythm and blues

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 18:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome back

Hope you had a good one. You will probably have a look in on British R&B when you have got your feet under the desk and reverted 100 pieces of vandalism, so it will become obvious that I decided to post the discussed sections on post 1970, which await some tweaking when you have time and enthusiasm. There is also an issue to be resolved on bands formed from R&B acts that I might need a bit of help with. Finally, I have also realised that the list of significant covers slipped off the agenda, so we may need to get back to that. Also it is a bit of "tag you are it" as I am off to France early tomorrow - although I understand they now have the internet, so I will look on things in the evenings (if my family let me). As a result, no great hurry as far as I am concerned. All the best.--SabreBD (talk) 17:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mike Raven

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Yes, it's me again

Well done on Mike Raven (as above).

Tell me, what do you know about "I Spy (For The FBI)" - Jamo Thomas, Winfred "Blue" Lovett ("Kiss and Say Goodbye" - brilliant song, I thought), The Untouchables, Herman Wesley Kelly, Richard Wylie and Luther Ingram. I swore to myself that I would never do another new article on a song after my "Need Your Love So Bad" experience, and I will not. Equally, this is generally outside of my comfort zone anyway. However Allmusic seems to be in a tizz over the songwriter credit(s) and original performer, and you know how this can get the creative juices flowing. On face value perhaps Jamo needs an article - is he still alive ?

The Template talk:Did you know article relating to the FBI got me wondering, not least because I thought any opportunity to kick such an organisation up the proverbial appealed to my anarchist streak. Somehow "I Spy (For the FBI)" came to mind. Yes, I really should watch more cricket and less Wiki discussions ! Cheers,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:34, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Not much - # 44 UK, # 98 US, and also recorded by John Hiatt, apparently. I always find it's helpful to look for the record label - here and here. That shows the writers as "Wylie - Kelly", and a bit more googling comes up with the names Herman Kell(e)y and Richard "Popcorn" Wylie. Kelley may or may not be the same as this guy - I don't know - but I do know that he worked as a songwriter with Larry Banks and his wives Bessie and Joan (both personal faves of mine) in the 60s/70s - more info here. And, although Wylie doesn't (yet??) have his own bio here, he does have a proper obit here - which specifically refs ""I Spy (For The FBI)". So, that's a good start. So far as Jamo Thomas is concerned, obviously you'll have seen the Allmusic article. (Which refers to the song as being originally by Luther Ingram, although the article on Ingram himself says it was a cover of Thomas' version - hence your confusion I guess - further research needed, as I don't have that answer yet!) There is a Jamo Thomas discography here and some more info on him here and here. My trusty Whitburn says he was born in Chicago rather than the Bahamas - again, to be resolved. No dates so far I'm afraid - but apparently still going in 2009. He's also referenced here in relation to Stax Records. Does that help you? Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Great help, thank you. I do not know where to start now though. Incidentally, I think there is confusion (understandably) between Herman Wesley Kelley and Herman (X) Kelly, both songwriters of similar vintage. The former looks odds on to be the co-writer of "I Spy With My Little Eye", whilst the latter is this guy - probably. Jamo's version was recorded earlier, although not a UK hit until 1969 - presumably because of the Northern soul scene taking off. Luther Ingram, billed as Luther Ingram and the G-Men, also recorded in the track in 1966. or 1965. This site supports 1965 and comments on Thomas' 1966 cover. Do you like all my original research ?
Cor blimey - all this leads back to the song, which logically can support more information than Thomas, Kelley and/or Wylie alone. There again with versions by Thomas, Ingram, Hiatt and the Untouchables (at least) this looks to be growing like topsy. I never did like I spy. What do you think I/you/we should do next ? Forget the whole damn thing ?
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:13, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
This site is usually pretty reliable, and suggests that Ingram's version (1965) predates Thomas' (1966) - but they, or I, could be wrong. It should be easy enough to put something stubby together on Jamo Thomas, and on Wylie - but, personally, I'm not sure about the case for an article on the single itself, or on Kelley. Too much scope for confusion or misinformation, in my view - but I leave it to you! Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Jamo Thomas now available in glowing Bullacolour. Feel free to give it a tweak - can't see a DYK for the life of me though. Cheers,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Excellent! - now duly tweaked!! Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for the tweaks - by the way, I am now putting together an article on Richard "Popcorn" Wylie. Cheers,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 10:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... so am I.....  :-) Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Absolutely fine, then I will stop. I have only added redlinks to existing Wiki articles with his name anyway, so no damage done. There is info at Allmusic.com and Thedeadrockstarsclub.com; but you probably know that ! Can you look for Ella Washington in Whitburn ? Cheers,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 11:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Edit away on Richard "Popcorn" Wylie if you like - I'm out for a few hours. Did a quick check on Ella Washington earlier - didn't find much, but I'll get back to you. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Gave it a minor tweak, but you have done a great job, as usual. Are you going for DYK ? I think Berry Gordy's autobiography snub is a good one to use. I'll leave Ms Washington entirely to you, and try to take a quantum leap elsewhere so we do not fall over each other again - at least this week !
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I've gone for the "throwing collectable singles as frisbees" for DYK! Don't want to be sued by Berry Gordy! Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
You presume you are safe from Mr. Frisbee then ?! Good call anyway - I wish you luck with it. From I-Spy to Frisbees. What next, a list of songs inspired by the Yo-Yo ?
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Kip Anderson

Could I prevail on you to look up the Billboard Hot 100, and R&B chart, placings for Kip Anderson, please ? It's my new article that's a brewing. I think there are only two or three charting singles to worry about. Also the page number would be good, and then I can copy and past the rest of the book reference in from the Jamo Thomas article. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 16:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Who?? I confess I've never heard of him, though obviously I should have. Presumably you've seen this, which refers to one record reaching the dizzy heights of #130 for one week (!). But, so far as Whitburn is concerned, absolutely no trace. Sorry! Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for looking. It was the Allmusic article that talked about chart entries; which I have incorporated into the (radically re-written, of course) text. Anyhow it is up and running now, but thanks again.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Mean Old World

Thanks, but I don't think I can add any thing to the article. There is just not enough written about these types of songs that would be considered "reliable sources". Ojorojo (talk) 19:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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Aorta (band)

Hi Ghmyrtle! It's great that you created the page Aorta. I hope you didn't mind that I created the infobox. If you see any misleading info please do not hesitate to fix. I also would like to create the discography section for the band but then the contents box appears after the long text. Maybe the text could be named as history or similar so that the contents box would appear on top? ~ Elitropia (talk) 10:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem - edit as much as you like! I was wondering whether some of the earlier part of the article would be better placed in the Kal David article - what do you think? Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay. I'll add the title 'history' and create the 'discography'. Please let me know what you think after my edits. And your additions to Kal David page looks pretty fine. ~ Elitropia (talk) 13:35, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I see allmusic page says 1996 for the reissue but discogs and rate your music both say 1994. I wouldn't add it the reissue to the discography page for now. Do you have the reissue CD or any other source to check? ~ Elitropia (talk) 14:48, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Don't know - yet - but I've just discovered this. Time for some reading! Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Page 37 gives a reissue date of 1996. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Cool, thanks! But then I had to add the book reference additionally to discogs page since it's written 1994 there. Either you (or I) can remove the reissue, or keep both of the references (?). ~ Elitropia (talk) 16:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Richard "Popcorn" Wylie

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:04, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Sweepstakes

Hi, I changed it to "sweepstakes" because that's what the page is called. But Wikipedia respects British spelling, so I'll go ahead and link it to Sweepstakes while calling it "sweepstake". Maybe this page will be of interest to you: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (spelling). Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Veda Brown

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Joe Lutcher

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Li'l Millet

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dorothy LaBostrie

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

3RR Report

Hi, Ghmyrtle! I'd be happy to fix the diffs on the report you filed to make it more readable if you'd like; as it is, it's not a "proper" report and would most likely be dismissed as such. Let me know if you need help, and Cheers :> Doc9871 (talk) 07:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Heh! You beat me to it! Hope all goes well! Cheers :> Doc9871 (talk) 07:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcome

I see you are now a part of a widespread nationalistic campaign against all that is good and right with Geography. Next you'll be painting all the bookmarks on Wikipedia green .....--Snowded TALK 06:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Irish? People will be calling me Welsh soon... Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Totally off-topic... but is it "Welsh Rabbit" or "Welsh Rarebit"? I don't believe "rarebit" is really a true word, but rather one invented in (probably) Victorian times to make people feel better about humanizing rabbits. Thoughts? ;> Doc9871 (talk) 08:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Always trust Delia! Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
You just won me a "bar bet", Ghmyrtle! Love it... Doc9871 (talk) 09:28, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Roddy Jackson

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Wales

I have put the Wales article forward for GA status. It just needs tweaking, and maybe a heavy-handed swipe from outside to get it in place. I am writing to those who are constant contributors and defenders of Wales and Welsh articles, to not scream at me for doing this, put help get the article through. If we fail, we fail, there is nothing wrong with that; but Wales should be a Good Article at least and if it takes good intentioned amateurs to reach that then so be it. FruitMonkey (talk) 01:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Genetics of UK

Thanks! I'll post a note on the talk pages of the articles for the two authors, pointing to the deleted material. Very correct of you! I'll also have a look at the blog you mentioned.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 10:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

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DYK Nominations

Hi just wondering how much i need to edit and what to edit on the Bank Hall page i nominated to get it passed as a Did you know page? cheers Bankhallbretherton (talk) 23:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

thanks for the reply, i have expanded it but i didnt realise until when i had applied that it has to be a new article, i guess i missed that boat after expanding it... shame as would have been a good did you know article... Bankhallbretherton (talk) 07:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah the article has shrunk due to new pages being created for the area of the hall eg the gardens, estate and the action group which have needed the bank hall article to be edited to show less content on them specific areas so the new pages can be expanded which have been done well. Maybe the Bank Hall Gardens page could be up for a nomination? Bankhallbretherton (talk) 08:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Aorta (band)

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Illinois Speed Press

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Blues

Thanks for posting an explanitory note on the user page after my revert for this article. I was a bit pushed for time and didnt get around to it immediately.--SabreBD (talk) 08:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem - I'm sure he/she's acting in good faith, just needs to learn how best to approach things. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Fifty

The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
Firstly I'd like to thank you for you support of the DYK project in general. Then I'd like to note that you have created half a century of your popular articles. Well done, I thought they were eclectic but I see the vein of musicality running through the articles you have mined. Blues, Pop and TV shoes and musicians. Top of the Pops - with over 50 on the wiki list. So thanks for making so many hits - the wiki is all the more richer for your contributions. Thank you. Victuallers (talk) 09:19, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Bravo on your half century ! I know just how much hard work, effort, hours of time (and sometimes, fun) goes into each of these. Well done.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, only just noticed your message. Thanks - I'm sure you'll catch me up in no time at your present rate though! Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dale Warren

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

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More on crickets!

Thank you for your suggestions on crickets at refdesk! The article is now at Crickets as pets and needs some attention to grammar and flow.

Chirp! East of Borschov 08:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Ireland

It still wasn't very nice. But I'm glad it wasn't you what said it (guv). :) Daicaregos (talk) 17:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Spoof image

Thanks for the tip off. It could be a copyvio so I have requested a deletion Victuallers (talk) 07:28, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for picking up my blooper, concerning Robert Scot's area & time of birth. GoodDay (talk) 14:40, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Can I cut out and frame the few threads above? There must be something going wrong with me - lots of thanks, and no vandalism... Hmm, what can I do now....? Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

You've saved me again (at BISE). GoodDay (talk) 22:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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Sid Rawle

Hello! I am very pleased to see that you have become involved with editing Sid's entry, and have reverted a somewhat clumsy edit by an un-named person. I am still getting to grips with Wikipedia protocols, and other committments in my life mean I cannot yet devote as much time as I would like, to amplifying articles on people who are of interest to me. But I offer this to you, in the hope that you may be interested, and can find a way of weaving it into the text, omitting reference to Jon Cainer, who is perhaps best described as an anonymous benefactor!

Sid (and his immediate family) did live in the Forest of Dean, in a bungalow that had been attached to Blackthorn Farm, Hillersland, just off the B4432 (near Coleford and Berry Hill, though technically, I think it falls under English Bicknor). The bungalow was bought by Jon Cainer the astrologer for the family, when Richard, who owned Blackthorn, and let his land be used for the Forest Fayre in 1992, went bankrupt. The aerial view on Google Earth shows the garden pretty clearly, laid out with earth-works and standing-stones by Sid, and where his remains now lie. Does Wikipedia recognize the Register of Electors as a verifiable source, I wonder? since I rather think that Sid (in his settled manifestation) would have insisted on having his vote, and will have been on the register there for at least the past ten years. g88keeper (talk) 03:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've added some information to the article, mainly from recent obituaries. I'm sure there's much more that could be added - but we need to be aware both of verifiability, using published sources, and the need to maintain the privacy of his family and friends. I don't think adding the address of his last home to the article can be justified on those grounds. Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Bideford Bay

Hello, your nomination of Bideford Bay at DYK was reviewed and comments provided. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

22nd November

You posted this on my page

West Country

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at West Country. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Are you serious? this was not vandalism in any definition of the word. I was removing some un-referenced material from a poorly researched and badly worded article in order that it wouldn't be misleading. I think by reverting it and posting on my talk page YOU are the one committing vandalism or at least not assuming good faith.----GreatestrowereverTalk Page 20:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. ----GreatestrowereverTalk Page 20:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Constructive contributions are appreciated and strongly encouraged, but your recent edit to the userpage of another user may be considered vandalism. Specifically, your edit to User talk:Greatestrowerever may be offensive or unwelcome. In general, it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing others' userpages without their permission. Instead, please bring the matter to their talk page and let them edit their user page themselves if they agree on a need to do so. Please refer to Wikipedia:User page for more information on User page etiquette. Thank you. GreatestrowereverTalk Page 20:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Responded at user talk page. The user concerned has so far failed to remove the false allegation above. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Mostly because the allegation isn't false.----GreatestrowereverTalk Page 17:59, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I think you'll find that I commented on your user talk page and not your user page. Again, please withdraw the allegation that I added material to your user page. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Francis Wilford-Smith

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Dick Waterman

I was just browsing WP:HD. The Dick Waterman article could do with an infobox - {{infobox person}} should do the trick. Mjroots (talk) 09:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Don Randi

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

River Severn

Hi Ghmyrtle/Archive 10!, an article you have contributed to, has been selected for the Wikipedia Version 0.8. offline release on DVD and iPhone. If you would like to make any last minutes changes or improvements, you are most welcome to do so. Deadline is midnight UTC on Monday, 11 October. See also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Worcestershire/Archive 1#Worcestershire articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release. --Kudpung (talk) 04:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bideford Bay

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

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Wales GA

I've written a climate section for the Wales article, per the recommendation at GA review. As geography is your speciality, would you mind taking a critical look at the section and make any improvements you think are needed. Please feel free to add/delete/amend as necessary, and don't spare my blushes. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 20:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I will take a look at it, but I'm a bit busy in the real world at the moment. On first reading, there seems to be a lot of emphasis on rainfall! Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for replying. It has some stuff on sunshine too. But as I say; please make any improvements you feel are necessary, whenever you have the time. I think it is well enough sourced to pass GA review, but that doesn't mean it's exhaustive, or even any good. Daicaregos (talk) 21:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
It's Wales. Rainfall is central to weather. The Ryder Cup has shown that to the world :). I'm just gutted that we don't yet appear to have a Wikipedian with a camera at the Celtic Manor. FruitMonkey (talk) 21:25, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Yeah yeah I know - but, seriously, I think there may be a bit of duplication on the theme of "it's wet". No need to over emphasise it! Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Would it help to remove Swansea's most famous saying? Daicaregos (talk) 07:33, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Riegal / Rigel

I'm glad to help. It only took me 3 years, on and off; the mis-spelling and obscurity of the subject matter didn't help!

CheersPzzp (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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