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Person of interest?
I ran across John Mayo (born 1838–?), an African American member of the Louisiana House of Representatives (possibly from Rapides Parish). He was also a carpenter. I know you create many stubs of a related nature and I was wondering if you are interested in creating this? John Baptist Lafargue was his son-in-law. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 01:04, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- I will see what I can do when I have some time. Thanks for all your great work!!! FloridaArmy (talk) 17:04, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- John Mayo has a Wikidata entry started and there is a citation that mentioned his relationship to John Baptist Lafargue (already listed in that article space). I was struggling to find more then mentions (I did not check newspapers.com yet), but he sounds notable. He would have served in office around the 1860s. I also did not see him named on African-American officeholders during and following the Reconstruction era yet. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 20:24, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- user:PigeonChickenFish I checked Black Legislators in Louisiana During Reconstruction by John Vincent and I am not seeing him listed. If you want to follow up you could reach out to the author, I think it would interesting if he missed one you found. I assume he would want to know?
- Of course Louisiana had a fair amount of mixing so it gets complicated putting people in categories based on "race". Eric Foner claimed to have included nearly all the legislators in his book and missed most of the legislators from Florida, lots from Mississippi, and many from others as well. I reached out to him and he didn't seem to care or to have any interest in issuing an updated version or addendum (even though he makes the false and misleading claim of including nearly all in his book). Frankly, the history of bigoted professors is not pretty, especially at Columbia it's a verrry long and ugly record.
- DeeDee Baldwin's work has been incredibly helpful for Mississippi and will likely be influential in getting others to do similar work. I applaud User:Star Mississippi for keeping her draft alive (Draft:DeeDee Baldwin). She deserves recognition for her work (Star and DeeDee!!!).
- Even Baldwin's work is problematic because omitting the white Republicans helps perpetuate the mythology that they were just using the Blacks and didn't really care or were just exploitative. It ignores the work they did, all their accomplishments and efforts, and the often heavy price they paid. But that's a whole 'nother can of worms.
- I'm sorry if my comments aren't more helpful but that's my 2 cents. Thanks again for all your terrific work. Enjoy life. Have fun. I appreciate all your help. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:52, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- UPDATE Professor Vincent appears to be retired. His book was originally published in 1976 so I'm not sure how easy it would be to reach him. Maybe one of his colleagues at Southern University (Department Chairs?) could help? I don't know. Anyway. If you can find sources you're good to go. Sorry I can't be more helpful Good luck!!! FloridaArmy (talk) 19:04, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Professor Vincent doesn't mention any additions or updates in the 2008 paperback edition. Seems surprising. But it is what it is. FloridaArmy (talk) 19:07, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- I love Baldwin's research. It's such a helpful tool and totally concur @FloridaArmy that it should be recognized in its own merit. I think I can get it to mainspace this time. Catching up from being offline. Will see how I can help here. Thanks for flagging, @PigeonChickenFish Star Mississippi 13:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- John Mayo has a Wikidata entry started and there is a citation that mentioned his relationship to John Baptist Lafargue (already listed in that article space). I was struggling to find more then mentions (I did not check newspapers.com yet), but he sounds notable. He would have served in office around the 1860s. I also did not see him named on African-American officeholders during and following the Reconstruction era yet. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 20:24, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- I will see what I can do when I have some time. Thanks for all your great work!!! FloridaArmy (talk) 17:04, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
There is a J. Mayo / John Mayo in the Louisiana House of Representatives in 1872 noted here. There is also a lawyer J. Mayo noted here in 1854. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy: that is so interesting you found some more citations, thank you. I don’t know why he is missing in many of the research/texts? I don't normally create/edit politicians but now I am curious! PigeonChickenFish (talk) 01:22, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- I am eager to read what you found and are able to write up. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:53, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Would it be okay if I added him to the Missing Pieces list (with the sources found)? I was hoping someone with more experience with politicians would tackle this one. I don’t want it to get lost though, and I have a bunch of active drafts at the moment. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 03:08, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, but better yet just start the draft. My drafts are much harder to get approved than drafts started by other people. But however you prefer is fine. I will try to help if I can. FloridaArmy (talk) 10:36, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- User:PigeonChickenFish Draft:Citizens' League might interest you. FloridaArmy (talk) 12:44, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Would it be okay if I added him to the Missing Pieces list (with the sources found)? I was hoping someone with more experience with politicians would tackle this one. I don’t want it to get lost though, and I have a bunch of active drafts at the moment. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 03:08, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- I am eager to read what you found and are able to write up. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:53, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
@FloridaArmy: I was thinking your Missing Pieces list gets a lot of different editors looking at it (because I know you are busy too, so no pressure to write it). I can push drafts to the main space without needing approval or review (an extended privilege here). However I am not yet a part of the AFC review group. If you ever need help, I am here. Just holla! PigeonChickenFish (talk) 22:42, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
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- User:Liz what is the point of deleting these draft when I am prohibited from submitting them or any other? FloridaArmy (talk) 19:39, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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A week from today, we have an enormous expiring draft list (see this page) and many of these drafts were created by you and are marked as "placeholders". I'm not sure if you maintain a list of your drafts but you should consider reviewing this list for October 12th and delaying deletion for any drafts that you don't want to be deleted. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:49, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- User:Liz I am currently unable to submit any draft for review so there isn't anything I can do to reduce the draft backlog. Any drafts you delete I will have restored. This doesn't seem like a useful way to build an encyclopedia. I noted your improper deletions of entries on clearly notable subjects above and never received a response. What utility does deleting drafts on notable subjects I am unable to submit for review serve? FloridaArmy (talk) 01:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- please feel free to tag me on a Draft_talk if you need my timely assistance @FloridaArmy. My personal Talk is of course fine and you're always welcome there, but I worry I might miss something that's time sensitive. I'll have al look at these linked now. Star Mississippi 01:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy & @Star Mississippi: For reference, if you sort the list by time, 18:42 UTC is when the drafts seem to start and 19:09 UTC is when the relevant drafts appear to end. A spot check of a number of them shows that no edits have been made to delay the G13 deletions at this point in time. If the intention is to continue to work on these, perhaps a bot request should be made to forestall their deletion. @BD2412 appears to have delayed the deletion last time with edits such as these. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- If someone gives me a list of a few hundred drafts to place a note on, I'll go through it and add the note accordingly. BD2412 T 19:58, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for that tip @Hey man im josh. I'll look to see which you, @BD2412 haven't gotten to and also see if I can nudge any closer to mainspace as well. Star Mississippi 23:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- I will try to work on some more when I have some time, but I can't submit any articles at the moment due to my restriction. Thanks so very much for all the help! FloridaArmy (talk) 03:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy & @Star Mississippi: For reference, if you sort the list by time, 18:42 UTC is when the drafts seem to start and 19:09 UTC is when the relevant drafts appear to end. A spot check of a number of them shows that no edits have been made to delay the G13 deletions at this point in time. If the intention is to continue to work on these, perhaps a bot request should be made to forestall their deletion. @BD2412 appears to have delayed the deletion last time with edits such as these. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- please feel free to tag me on a Draft_talk if you need my timely assistance @FloridaArmy. My personal Talk is of course fine and you're always welcome there, but I worry I might miss something that's time sensitive. I'll have al look at these linked now. Star Mississippi 01:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
@FloridaArmy, Star Mississippi, and BD2412: I compared the list of drafts that are eligible for deletion tomorrow (found here) with FloridaArmy's pages created currently in draft space (found here. There were 569 common drafts (of the 787 drafts listed), which I've added below.
I hope this helps, but I also hope that we're not just kicking the can down the road again. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done; I hope you are right. BD2412 T 17:39, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you @Hey man im josh! We got one to mainspace and a couple on the way/potential merger targets so we'll cut it down some. A couple crossed my watchlist, sorry to drop the ball on those @FloridaArmy. Will try to address all in the next six months or less. Star Mississippi 02:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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S0091 (talk) 16:39, 12 October 2023 (UTC)- User:S0091 thank you for reviewing this and others. I think they are quite interesting albeit esoteric. Meat and potatoes for what makes Wikipedia so great? Hopefully others with more expertise and access to more isolated sourcing will expand on them in future. I appreciate your help in getting them started and I enjoyed rereading what's there about them so far. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:06, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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