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May 2022

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Offtopic from AFD on list of locomotives

I dunno, i am probably guilty of going off-topic in the AFD. What i think you should vote is not of general interest, anyhow, so i will answer here instead. I think you should conclude "Keep" by now because you have asked questions and had them answered. Enough that i sorta think u "owe" that concession. Also you could acknowledge that you don't have much familiarity with lists in general, and just say you concede to others like Thyrrdlf(?) who do, so you accept "keep". Also i am not sure if you have considered guidance at wp:salat. You don't have to, of course, this is just my opinion, which doesn't really matter, and I don't really care either.

List of pizza chains and List of pizza chains in the United States are examples where inclusion depends on Wikipedia-notability of a topic, to be proven by existence of an article (that has risked and/or survived scrutiny like at AFD perhaps). So sorta foisting work off to others, not having arguments about a given item at the list-article. See the discussions on both their talk pages. On the second, in 2015, i was making some complicated argument. But DHG was right.

Hope this helps. I will "watchlist" here, but it's probably best if u ping me in any reply. --Doncram (talk) 22:07, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry about the reverting on the London Underground S7 and S8 Stock‎ - clearly I wasn't paying attention! Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 07:33, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1948 Palestinian exodus

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SMB Super Show merge discussion closed

An editor closed the discussion. Your draft looks like a good starting point for the merger so feel free to push it live when you get a chance. :) Axem Titanium (talk) 20:01, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you envision the TLOZ episode list living going forward? That's the only content missing post-merge. Axem Titanium (talk) 21:53, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

With the rest of the Super Show episodes at List of Mario television episodes. If you could put them there that would be appreciated.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 22:44, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I agree that's an intuitive home for it. The list title says "Mario television episodes" so redirecting readers there would be WP:ASTONISHing, imo. I also think there's value in putting all 13 episode summaries next to each other instead of interspersing them with Mario episode summaries. Just spitballing an idea here, but since the SMB3 and SMW episode lists aren't terribly long, those could be returned to their respective articles and this list could be converted to focus solely on SMBSS. I'm not seeing a compelling reason why three separate shows should have their episode summaries compiled into one page. Axem Titanium (talk) 07:02, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think your reasoning makes a lot of sense, but you should probably ask others about it first.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 11:00, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I started a discussion there. Axem Titanium (talk) 17:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Deltarune

Have you actually played the game? Because from my knowledge, there are actually 3 fountains, not 2, let alone 2 Dark Fountains, and only one of the fountains needs to be sealed (the Eastern fountain). I don't want to cause an edit war and I want to explain to you that the edit revert is inaccurate.

About the "Genocide is another fan nickname that refers to the fan nickname of the Undertale route where the player kills every enemy instead of sparing them." sentence, in which you replaced "every enemy instead of sparing them" with "monster", people who have never played the game may think that the Genocide route could be the default route, or, even worse, think that it is the only possible route.

Now that I've gotten this off my chest, I want you to explain in detail the reasons for your revert. 🌶️Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 17:59, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here is each of your changes and why I reverted them:

Changing "Dark Fountains" to "Dark Fountain" in lede - this should be obvious, Kris and Susie seal multiple Dark Fountains in the game.

Changing "SnowGrave" to "Snowgrave" - SnowGrave is the correct spelling per the game.

Changing ""SnowGrave" is a fan nickname based on the spell which marks the point of no return; returning to the normal route is no longer possible after using it" to ""Snowgrave" is a fan nickname based on the spell which marks the point of no return, as returning to the normal route is no longer possible after consistently using the spell" - again, this is a simple matter of accuracy to the game - returning to the normal route is no longer possible after using SnowGrave once on Berdly.

Changing "Snowgrave" is a fan nickname based on the spell which marks the point of no return, as returning to the normal route is no longer possible after consistently using the spell" to ""Genocide" is another fan nickname that refers to the fan nickname of the Undertale route where the player kills every enemy instead of sparing them" - we really don't need to go into precise detail in a footnote. From the fact it's described as a "route" a reader can guess that it's optional, and they can always read the Undertale article for more information.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 20:30, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that there was only 1 fountain that was closed, being the Eastern fountain. There were multiple fountains which were opened, but so far only 1 has been closed in the game.

The "SnowGrave" spelling seems fair enough. I've only played the normal route, and the camelcase in "SnowGrave" was off-putting for me. The "SnowGrave/Snowgrave" part can be kept as-is.

From the fact it's described as a "route" a reader can guess that it's optional

The reader could also think that sparing the enemy is optional, but that the default is that the enemies are killed. A few words doesn't really hurt in that footnote. 🌶️Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 18:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"The problem is that there was only 1 fountain that was closed, being the Eastern fountain. There were multiple fountains which were opened, but so far only 1 has been closed in the game." - er, you do know Chapter 2 exists right?

"A few words doesn't really hurt in that footnote" - It's a long footnote and there is no need to be absolutely precise with every little sentence. Unless you provide evidence that someone has actually been confused by the sentence it should stay how it is.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 18:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know Chapter 2 exists. I played it. The 3rd fountain was opened in Chapter 2. I'm not dumb, I've played the game. I also double-checked with the Deltarune Fandom wiki.

Yes, the footnote is long, but that extra detail in the sentence should be able to head.

I don't know how you could actually expect me to provide evidence of people being confused by this. I'm not an FBI agent. I don't spy on people. 🌶️Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 19:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Yes, I know Chapter 2 exists. I played it. The 3rd fountain was opened in Chapter 2. I'm not dumb, I've played the game. I also double-checked with the Deltarune Fandom wiki." Kris and Susie seal one fountain in Chapter 1, and another fountain in Chapter 2. Do you agree with this?

"Yes, the footnote is long, but that extra detail in the sentence should be able to head." What do you mean by this?--Eldomtom2 (talk) 19:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After double-checking again, I can confirm that it was my fault. There are 2 fountains sealed. My bad.

I'm not going to revert your edit; I understand the reason for your revert.

But the only thing you shouldn't keep doing is reverting copyedits and calling them "vandalism". 🌶️Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 05:55, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

When "copyedits" do nothing but introduce errors, it's unsurprising that some people might assume vandalism.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 09:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You should try to learn to not think that vandalism/intentional bad edits and errors made in good faith are the same thing. I came to you to try and stop an edit war, which was successfully done, so we should end this thread now. 🌶️Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 09:13, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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List of most powerful locomotives revision

The consensus of my edit is implicit. I already explained why the classification is separated changed. Also, the title clearly says "List of most powerful locomotives", and the current "Standard" paragraphs contains a lot of unrelated information for this top. RMY17 (talk) 23:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How exactly can you have "implicit consensus" when no one has said anything?--Eldomtom2 (talk) 23:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How exactly does implicit consensus work for you? The fact that nobody said anything means is implicit. Not to mention, you already have a warning for "editing war". RMY17 (talk) 23:28, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"I edited it and no one objected within a month" absolutely does not constitute any sort of consensus.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 09:51, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what your problem is. I watched messages above and it's not your first time having issues like this.

I'll try to explain you one more time.

I explicitly said in my edits to the article why the top should be classified as single-frame and multi-frame. I also mentioned above that the then-current standard didn't make much sense.

I consider the information contained inside my version of the article explicit enough to give any well-intentioned person a clear understanding of the reason of change. The implicit nature of the consensus comes from understanding the issues with the previous version and the logic my changes propose.

I don't think my version of the article is the best way possible and that no one can change my mind about it, but common sense tells me it's an "improved classification and criteria" compared to the previous one. I might be wrong, but since other people didn't have an issue with it, I think it's an improvement. A month is enough time for other editors to see the changes.

Your act of reverting it with the ambiguous reason "get consensus for making a radical change like this" doesn't contribute with anything constructive. I don't have a problem with you, but I don't think you are in a position to act like this. Your previous issues don't give you credibility. RMY17 (talk) 12:18, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"The implicit nature of the consensus comes from understanding the issues with the previous version and the logic my changes propose." - Providing an explanation does not prove the existence of consensus.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 14:31, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It does prove. Anyone well-intended will agree with a good-faith improvement, and my edit is a good-faith improvement. I already explained you why, with arguments. You make statements based on nothing but your view of the subject (not your first time being warned). Read Wikipedia's article on consensus because I'll stop wasting my time on you.

Have a nice day. RMY17 (talk) 15:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is absolute nonsense to claim that "anyone well-intended will agree with a good-faith improvement".--Eldomtom2 (talk) 16:10, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Read the Wikipedia's article on consensus and try to provide a valid argument next time. RMY17 (talk) 16:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have. Nowhere does it say "if you make an edit and no changes it, you now have consensus". Also this is literally the only page you've edited.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 16:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#Through_editing

Yes, on English Wikipedia. This is irrelevant. Should we talk about your warnings? Because they are the reason you don't have credibility to me. RMY17 (talk) 17:02, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You linked a section that does not say reverting month-old edits is impermissible. Again, why don't you get a firmer consensus?--Eldomtom2 (talk) 18:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's no need for it. RMY17 (talk) 21:17, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And your reason for claiming that is?--Eldomtom2 (talk) 21:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Right above. RMY17 (talk) 01:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Consensus policy page definitely does not say that reverting month-old edits is impermissible as they should be assumed to have consensus.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 14:47, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. It is you that doesn't have the credibility to do it. You can't blame me for not trusting you when you were warned so many times. RMY17 (talk) 15:38, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Credibility" has nothing to do with consensus.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 15:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Get your medication bro. Of course it does RMY17 (talk) 21:20, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A 1v1 scenario like this is hardly a case where one side can claim consensus.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 21:26, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Then give up. RMY17 (talk) 22:08, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Again, why are you so resistant to the idea of trying to get a firmer consensus?--Eldomtom2 (talk) 15:04, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's pointless. It is already obvious enough. RMY17 (talk) 17:03, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No it isn't.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 13:16, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023

Your recent editing history at The Amazing Digital Circus shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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You are the one engaging in an edit war by continually reverting to a vandalised version of the page.Eldomtom2 (talk) 19:39, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Amazing Digital Circus. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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What edit war do you think is presently going on on the TADC page? I don't see one.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 09:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removing short words

I notice you remove short word this in The Amazing Digital Circus. Do you know why you remove short word TADC? You can use edit summary to explains why you edit. 47.234.198.142 (talk) 03:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it because unofficial abbreviations usually aren't worth mentioning. I note that you have a tendency to lecture others about Wikipedia policy despite breaking it frequently yourself.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 11:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Amazing Digital Circus. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Drive-by tagging

Was this really so difficult that you couldn't do it yourself? We both know you're experienced enough that it would pose zero challenge for you. The least you could have done was actually linked an article (on the talk page, perhaps) instead of leaving vague information where someone had to search and hope that what they found was what you meant. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Piccadilly Line

The reason for the revert was because New Tube for London redirects to London Underground 2024 Stock - so there was no correction to make in my eyes. I was unaware of the move that had taken place from the (now) redirect. So the edit that was being made would really have fallen under WP:BROKEN - I hope you can appreciate why the edits were reverted. Danners430 (talk) 14:08, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Railway brake

Why did you undo my edit to Railway brake here: [5]? You should explain why you did that in an edit summary as required by the rules on reverting which say "In the edit summary or on the talk page, succinctly explain why the change you are reverting was a bad idea or why reverting it is a better idea". Also, please tell me why you reverted my change - which more accurately describes the partial list of brake types in the article. Thank you, Opolito (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I undid it because it does not more accurately describe the partial list of brake types in the article - I do not believe that it lists all the most common brake types.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 14:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it doesn't even list the common ones, then it certainly does not list all of the types. So claiming this is a section covering the types is worse than suggesting it is the common types. Opolito (talk) 16:24, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My version does not say it covers all the brake types.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 19:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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