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For whatever it's worth, I felt the need to bring to your attention something you may have not thought much about.

While our first interaction on mw:Talk:Beta Features/Hovercards was fine and dandy, the bolding pattern and wording(s) of your subsequent responses concerned me, to a considerable extent. I'm not sure of your normal communication style and whether that's normal/commonplace of a tone for you to speak in, but it came across to me as if I was being shouted down for giving my input on a page that actively was seeking input from people and asking "please provide us with your thoughts!". To be honest, because of how poorly it sat with me, I hopped over to the page m:Gender gap to see "is this normal? Is this common? Why am I so bothered by this user's responses?"

In particular, there I read Nine Reasons Women Don’t Edit Wikipedia (in their own words), Sue Gardner's Blog, February 19, 2011. from the "Read" section as well as watched Sumana Harihareswara's talk from the "Watch" section.

Point #4 from the article was particularly resounding with me and how the experience felt like it played out between you and me on that page. Therefore, with that said, the entire reason I'm sending you this message is to request that you A. read at least the fourth bullet-point in that article I linked, as well as B. to, ideally, try to be conscious of the fact that sometimes the patterns with which you bold (or otherwise word or emphasize) your case/argument may make them to appear to come off as otherwise confrontational or condescending.

Hopefully that makes sense. My goal here is not conflict but of mutual understanding and, hopefully, progress. Thank you for your time.


Respectfully,

PolymathGirl (talk) 05:00, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Hello there PolymathGirl (Bush6984). I noticed your important message and read point 4 ("Some women don’t edit Wikipedia because they are conflict-averse and don’t like Wikipedia’s sometimes-fighty culture.") of the "Nine Reasons Women Don't Edit Wikipedia (in their own words)" page.
I'm sorry that I created an argumentative and aggressive/confrontational impression through my use of bold words on the Hovercards Beta Feature Talk page - I only intended to highlight key information in my point. I also stated my point quite clearly and strongly but this text itself doesn't seem particularly aggressive, just slightly argumentative.
Thanks for notifying me of the problem and I will try not to annoy anyone else like this.
Edwardj 123 (talk) 20:33, 9 December 2016 (UTC) | This message is also placed on user "Bush6984"'s talk page to notify them of my response to the conversation.[reply]



I really appreciate it. Thank you not only for the acknowledgement/recognition of the concern and apology (worlds better than brushing it off/dismissal, which many others may have opted for), but also I certainly appreciate your consideration in reading that bullet-point #4 that addresses/highlights that concern, especially as that #4 point addresses a wider Wikimedia concern. Thank you again. Much respect, PolymathGirl (talk) 04:23, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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