User talk:EWS23/Archive 4

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For those curious, this was given to me when I reverted vandalism at Marriage and Tawkerbot2 reverted it back. I'll let User:Tawker and/or User:Joshbuddy know about the error. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 01:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Must be a bug, tracking it down now, thanks for bringing it to my attention -- Tawker 06:07, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Wiktionary

What's the Wiktionary? Also, did you know I'm moving to Halifax on April 4th? I'm going to stay in my aunt's old house, until I move back to Nevada in Feb. 2007. I'm so excited!!!!!!!!!!!Abbopa 02:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

thanks

thanks Eric!Abbopa 19:45, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello EWS23, how are you? Thanks for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (88/3/1), so I am now an administrator. I am very humbled by your vote and grateful. Please let me know if at any stage you require assistance, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an administrator. Once again thank you and with kind regards Gryffindor 17:15, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello EWS23/Archive 4: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:16, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Mario

I just wanted to ask why you consider the quote notable. While it is a well-known quote among the gaming industry, it's a quote from one game that just got popular. However, it never was anywhere near the popularity of AYB. - A Link to the Past (talk) 09:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I would not even call Thank You Mario half as notable as AYB. Thank You Mario is just one of those classic quotes from classic games, like the Psychomantis quote. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Admin Coaching

Well, I mentioned a few things at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza#Outreach for Admin coaching? that are behind me holding promotions a little bit, but mostly I don't want to overload the coaches. True, I haven't looked at the page for a couple of days, but I'm on a WikiBreak until at least next week, so feel free to make a few assignments while I'm out. Overall, I do need a bit of help, but mostly, I need more coaches. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 03:47, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

That would certainly help. Thanks! Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 03:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC) P.S: just be sure to contact coaches to see who is active and still willing to coach... Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 03:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd say it's going great so far, Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Pschemp :D. I'm moving in a couple of weeks so I won't be able to take on any new user's for a few weeks, as I have a very busy schedule in real life for the next month or two. After I'm settled in my new state and home I'm sure I'll be taking on a couple of new users who want guidance. KnowledgeOfSelf 05:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Sango123 and I have finished coaching Gryffindor, he became and admin just the other day. Banez 08:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

EddieSegoura is more or less inactive at this point; I could probably take on someone else. Kirill Lokshin 09:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

• Sure, I can take on someone else to coach. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 12:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Olympic Games

I am going to be taking a short Wikibreak soon, so I won't be able to help you, but I do think you're right. It's really one sided, so it needs views from both the gold-count side and the total-count side. Frankly, though, I don't think that this is the place to put the paragraph: it really has nothing to do with the athletes, but with the country itself, so I wouldn't know where to put that. Secondly, there is no real "winner" of the Olympics. I think it is explained superficially in the paragraph, but it needs to be explained more. I suggest that you rewrite it so that it opens by explaining that the IOC does not announce a winner (because medal counts are not supported). Then you should say that if and is announced by some top news broadcasters, they either use the gold-count method or the total-count one. I hope this helped! → J@red  11:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

re:Admin Coaching

Well, neither one of them have come to me with anything, and I haven't really talked to either in a while, so I guess they're all finished. While I removed my name from the Esperanza members list, and the green e from my sig, I'd still be willing to take on some more coachees. Both of my previous were (if I recall correctly), shared with others, and I'd be happy to help out again. One thing that interests me, however, is why we call it "Admin Coaching", rather than something else? Is the point that it's admins who are coaching new users who want to become admins? Why not allow any experienced user, admin or not, to chip in? I can see how this is more personal than a help board, but it's not like resources aren't in place... In any event, if you'd like to assign another, feel free, and I'll welcome them with open arms. All the best, Mysekurity ^[m!] 14:26, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm willing to take on another coachee, since Brusselsshrek hasn't really asked for anything since his coaching began, and my other coachee left Wikipedia :(--Shanel 19:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm ready for whatever. Thanks for the summary, and I'll see you around. Let me know if anything's up. -Mysekurity ^[m!] 20:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Brusselsshrek hasn't approached me with anything, so I can take on another coachee if you need me to. Robert 22:26, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Country tags

Eric, thanks for the update regarding Afghan flags. I have been away from Wiki for about a week so sorry to not get back to you sooner. I replied on my talk page in more length, but would be happy to give more info if you need it. Just let me know, thanks! Josh 18:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

The last AC meeting (full log) The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly. A plea from the editor... The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Installing MediaWiki (or Wikipedia)

Hi,

I just wanted to set up local wikipedia in our local network. Can I get some suggestions please. Also some pointers on how I cam configure and set up a local wikipedia

Thanks in Advance satya 05:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

You'll be wanting to read this link then. They can also help you with support. MediaWiki is what makes all of this (Wikipedia) possible, just without the content or database.

...unless you really do want a local copy of the Wikipedia database, then you'll want to go here. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 05:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday! Best wishes from a fellow Esperanza member! :) —Mirlen 12:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee JaredW! Respond, if you feel so inclined

Happy birthday! — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 04:21, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday! --Misza13 T C 19:36, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone who sent their Happy Birthday wishes (though I'm trying to lose weight, so feel free to steal one of those tasty treats over there before I eat them all). If you're curious, it was a good birthday! :o) EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 10:43, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Eric, I appreciate the welcome back. I just lost my cool, that's all. Sometimes I think even though I'm 26 I still have some growing up to do. See you around. Oh and happy belated birthday friend! OSU80 17:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

help offered, help requested

hi eric (I'm feeling free) thanks for offering help. I just started my wikiexperience by trying to translate something, but I think instead I edited the original text, because it appears only in English now (it was Spanish). I'd love to reverse my action, but then, I'm still not sure about what I did or didn't do. How can I find out? ( maybe you can suggest a link) Machtslaus 06:05, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Wow, and happy birthday! Machtslaus 06:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

sorry, I'm just trying to create the link.. Machtslaus 06:10, 10 April 2006 (UTC)(Leave me a message!)

Sara in Spanish

Thanks eric, ok, so the page didn't belong here in the first place. couldn't I just regenerate the spanish one, duplicate it or something like that, and move it to Spanishwiki? Machtslaus 06:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the whole load of suggestions eric! I think I'll check out most of it tomorrow, I was so excited about the wikithing that I didn't notice that it's already 3 in the morning! (I was busy changing my user page the last half an hour) nice meeting you, I'll just feel free to ask you next time I'm around. ciao, Leave me a message! whenever you want! Machtslaus 06:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I wanted to say (Leave me a message!) dont't know why it appeared in red

Friends

Sorry for changing the intro, I hadn't finished what I was doing and then Wikipedia crashed. I'm aiming to get the article up to GA status and I could do with some help :P Sorry, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 10:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Les copains.. oh whatever.. Friends

Friends

Friends - Nomination to-do list - 10.04.06

(removed to-do list so it doesn't clutter up talk page; see Talk:Friends)

• I'd also like some of the surrounding subjects (episode guides, characters, lists etc) to be tidied up. If this ever goes up for FAC, they'll probably go through all those pages, so it helps. Hope I haven't dropped a breezeblock on you, it's not as much work as it sounds (okay it is) but it'll be worth it.. Anyway, I'll leave a copy of this on the Friends talk page in red and I'll cross out stuff as it gets done. Let's get going then (whenever) Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 21:43, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

A KISS Rfa Thanks

Thank you, I've been promoted. pschemp | talk 01:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

JK Rowling

Wow. I didn't even know you could do that! :) Looks good to me. Serendipodous 19:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

My Barnstar

I thank you very much for your giving me the Tireless Contributor Barnstar. I congratulate your thoughtfulness and appreciation of my work and edits. I am honored to have received such an award. Best wishes to you on your future edits! Cordially, → J@red  19:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I just saw the EA calendar and I saw it was your birthday not too long ago. Happy Birthday! → J@red  19:55, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes I did get a chance to look at that paragraph the other day, but it was a quick glance. I just looked it over again, and I made some minor rewording and restructuring fixes. Please feel free to change anything I did. Good job! → J@red  20:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you! Hello EWS23/Archive 4. Thank you for your support in my RfA! It passed with a final tally of 91/3/5. I am quite humbled and pleased by the community's show of confidence in me. If you need help or just want to talk, let me know. Cheers! -- Fang Aili 說嗎?

Hi Eric! Talk 2 me 2!--Divya da animal lvr 20:46, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Changes to vandal warning toolbox

I hope you're finding the warning toolbox useful. I've made a few minor changes to it that you might want to be aware of. --Kbh3^rdtalk 20:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... Maintaining updates in forked code is always a challenge. The changes I made were not great, and it doesn't sound like the changes you made in your copy were too great. If you understand the code you should be able to merge what you want of my recent changes. But you're on your own, there. --Kbh3^rdtalk 04:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

point grey changes

Alright I know I made stupid changes to Point Grey's entry but it's only for fun. Nobody actually looks at the page for any real information as there is very few posted there. In fact, the only people who have probaly looked at it in the recent times would be me and a friend that I told. I ask you to make an exception in this case. I'm not using any bad words or anything... I'm just trying to have fun at a distance. See, Point Grey was my school for a long time before I had to move down to Texas. So anyways, I was jsut trying to have soem fun so please reconsider. Or at least permit the changes I made that were OK. Such as the new astroturf which was built and the School's Drama Dept. website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.96.143.242 (talk • contribs)

I'm sorry, but no exceptions can be made. This is an encyclopedia, and we have standards for each and every page, no matter how minor. I have already left your factual edits (such as the Astroturf one), and if you want to make constructive edits like that, feel free. If you want to make jokes and such online, there are plenty of sites on which you can do that, including personal blogs and sites like Uncyclopedia. Thanks for your message, and let me know if you have any further questions. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 03:26, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Adming Coaching

I left this message on Titox's talk page but I guess I'll get a response here.

Hey Titox, hope you're doing well. I was wondering about the progress of the Admin Coaching program since I haven't received any info, I know I signed up a fortnight ago but it feels muuuuch longer! :P I'm not needing a coach right now, but I'm going through a rough patch at present. And if you can have a minor say, could Celestianpower coach me? He's been helping me a lot with the FA and we're friends already if that would make things any easier (I'd probably be done quicker with him). Thanks for reading this and good luck in the election! :) Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 21:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 21:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately the backlog on admin coaching is quite large. The problem is that we have at least twice as many requests as we have coaches, which is opposite of the ratio we would like (or at least a 1-to-1 ratio). I did a "roll call" of admin coaches only 10 days ago to see who could take on another coachee, and we were able to assign coaches to about 4 users. We certainly don't want to overload coaches. As for your request for a particular coach, I might recommend that you talk to Celestianpower and maybe set up some "unofficial" admin coaching if he's willing to do so. Thanks for your message, and let me know if I can do anything else. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 21:29, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Nah, that's okay. I think Cel actually just humours me and doesn't really like me. I have a tendency to shove myself on people without knowing it. Thanks anyway, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 17:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm very sorry but I currently have insufficient time to coach you, HighwayCello. When spaces become available in that program, I'm sure somebody will pick up the preverbial baton. Regards, --Celestianpower ^háblame 19:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Master Jay's RfA

Eric, I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your vote of confidence at my recent RfA. I have made a note of your concerns regarding rollback, and I will try my best to improve upon that issue. Give me a shout once and a while if you ever have any problems. Regards, Jay(Reply) 02:59, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

horses

i really love horses too- and am totally against horse meat! 86.139.83.24 19:09, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Yet another admin coaching header

Are you still acting coordinator for the admin coaching? If so I thought I'd better let you know that I've successfully completed mine (as I'm now an admin). I've also signed up to become a coach- even though I'm very new as an admin I can still provide plenty of advice on things like RC patrol, deletion policy, RfA etc. I am willing to start coaching someone asap (as there is great demand at the moment). Would be best to partner me with an 'older' (in Wikiyears) admin to provide a balanced coaching team. The end of my coaching also means Academic Challenger and Academic Challenger are free (though I obviously can't speak for them about whether or not they want to take on anyone new, that would have to be checked).

Let me know what you think. Petros471 18:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Admin coaching

Yes, I would be willing to take on another coachee. Academic Challenger 20:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

deletions

I was blocked for deleting stuff. I am sorry, but I didn't know I was really deleting stuff. I thought I was cutting out sections that I didn't want to print, and that it was not affecting anything else...Anyways, sorry, it won't happen again. 70.125.139.19 23:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Note: Replied to and welcomed this user at User talk:70.125.139.19. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 00:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hi Eric, Thanks for the positive feedback on my Spurs info. I was not aware of the NBA Wikiproject. I have been contributing to the NBA 2006 Playoffs page. It became somewhat addictive. If you liked the player-position chart, feel free to mention it in that project. I would feel a little ackward arriving and saying, "hey, I'm new and look what I've done. do you want to copy it." But I would feel honored if someone else would promote it. I found it worth developing that chart as I have not seen anything comparable on nba.com, espn.com or anywhere else (though they could exist without my knowing of them). I could not do that chart for any other team, but could make that Spurs chart with just one stats check (to be sure Nazr and Rasho were getting similar minutes). If the chart is replicated for other teams, I would be interested in learning from their formatting. I'm a newbie at CSS (an old hand at html tag soup) and so it is not well formatted. Best wishes, --Mikebrand 01:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

earth day

happy me day! __earth ^(Talk) 07:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Borg

A friendly reminder that you are now a member of the collective. -JCarriker 17:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Hallelujah!

It hath been done! _-M ^o P-_ 18:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Divine

The bold move to move the dab page and redirect to Divinity is probably good in most cases; however, the reason that it was a dab page was that there are other uses of "Divine". If I search for "Divine" meaning the drag queen, the note at the top of "Divinity" would probably help to find the right thing. My main concern is in pages that used to link to "Divine" meaning Divine (Glen Milstead) now go to Divinity (for example Didier Lestrade). There is a similar set of links that should probably go to Anglican terminology (like James Edward Cowell Welldon). A cleanup of links to the dab page was probably in order before executing the redirection. The dab problem does not go away; it is just hidden now. I don't have time to review them now, but maybe I will later in the week. Thanks. Dpv 04:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. Let me know if you want help reviewing the links. Otherwise, I'll leave you to it. Dpv 04:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Admin coaching

Thanks for the inquiry, Eric. I did enjoy working with Petros and am glad to see him an administrator. I am considering continuing in the program, but I do feel that that perhaps its direction should be clarified. The introduction at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Programs/Admin coaching suggests that the purpose of the program is to have an experienced editor one can go to with questions, such as how to get something accomplished. What Titoxd told me was more along the lines of evaluating the requester for suitability for adminship. It seems the latter is the general trend. I can peruse the user's talk page and archives, and glance through the recent contributions, but unfortunately, I don't have time to do a detailed analysis of one's RFA chances; I could easily miss something, and I don't know that I can really predict whehter an RFA will pass or fail. I mean, I would feel bad if I didn't see anything wrong with a contributor and the user's RFA later failed. So I guess I'm just not sure how useful I am for this project. — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay...

Sorry, I didn't realise the voting restrictions for the elections. I do not really get that, but okay... ~Linuxerist E/L/T 21:44, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

SOURCE

Hey im responding to the source of the sanjacinto monument fact i wrote down, so here are a few http://www.sanjacinto-museum.org/About_Us/Media_Kit/Fact_Sheet/, also http://www.sanjacinto-museum.org/Monument_and_Museum/. On both links you can find the information stating it as the worlds tallest monument tower and worlds tallest masonary tower.

Eric

Hi Eric, this is not just out of curiosity, but do you know anything about deep sea fish? I've already checked what Wikipedia has about them, so don't give me anything I know already. By the way, it's for a project. Thanks!Abbopa 03:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

EA elections

Hi, you seem to be the most active staff member so I thought I'd leave you a note to say that I am withdrawing from the Esperanza elections. Would you take whatever steps (I'm not sure of the process) to remove my candidateship please? Many thanks -- Banez 05:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for dealing with it, at least now I can rest easy knowing thats all sorted out. Thanks again -- Banez 05:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Banes' withdrawl

Looks good - thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 15:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Deep sea fish

Hey Eric, thanks for all your help. Actually, I have not seen any of those websites you suggested. Very creepy indeed. Do you know much about the gulping eel? (I think that's what it's called.) I've got very little info about that one, but a lot of info on other ones... But they're great! Thanks! Abbopa 01:17, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Admin coaching

(cross-posted from my talk page) Thank you both for your comments; they were very helpful. Yes, I would like to participate again. — Knowledge Seeker দ 01:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

86.130.227.57

This Person has vandalized the article on Ron Weasley. I don't know what happened on article Ron Weasley. This person is very UnCivil on editing article. Do we have to block 86.130.227.57 for punishment of vandalising? Do you agree with that? Sorry to bother you about it. Daniel5127, 02:31, 27 April 2006(UTC)

Esperanza elections

Hi, how are you? I'm sorry to inform you that your vote was discounted at the Esperanza Advisory Council elections because your name was not on the list of eligible voters. To be eligible to vote, you had to be a member before April 6th, and you joined on April 20th. [1] Don't worry, there's always next election! Welcome to Esperanza, and let me know if there's anything I can do for you. :o) EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 17:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi EWS23, I'm doing good, thanks. I understand and I'll vote next time around. Waikiki!!! ^_^ --User:ElectricEye (talk) 06:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Gulper Eel

Sorry, I did mean Gulper Eel. Aren't they scary? (But then again, a lot of deep sea fish are scary.) Thanks for the info on gulper eels. Also, I found out about this other kind of anglerfish, called the fanfin anglerfish. Ever heard of it? Have any facts on that one? Abbopa 01:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I one the sandbox....

Thanks, Eric! -- MusicMaker5376 04:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again! I don't think I'll go too crazy with the subpages, though /random_nonsense may very well be a necessary addition at some point. In case you couldn't tell, I'm a big fan of random nonsense. Big fan.

Re: my Userpage, really, it's the little things.... Levity on Wikipedia! What a novel concept! -- MusicMaker5376 05:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandal war

Ya it happens when I use popups and the little peckerwoods are editing in front of me. My policy is to revert as fast as possible 'till they get bored and go away, then check to see what was the last good ver. This one was a bit more persistent than most. --DV8 2XL 18:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Plant images

Thanks for your information. There are many many species/genera and there more or less has to be a site that people get images for the articles - not everyone in Maine has a digital camera and can take pictures of an Australian desert plant. --Dumarest 20:12, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

note

Eric,

Thanks for all your help on the information of deep sea fish... the project was a blast! Abbopa 22:36, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Cyde Weys

He's not a member, he can't vote. The newsletter is necessary for the success of Esperanza in my opinion. If he doesn't want it, he can't be a member. It's not like it's very often. So, yes, his votes should be discounted. Sorry, but they're the rules. --Celestianpower ^háblame 11:17, 30 April 2006 (UTC)