User talk:Dbalandrin

Welcome

Hi Dbalandrin, and welcome to Wikipedia! I've written some advice for past students in a similar class at Longy School of Music which you might find helpful. You'll find it here. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page (User talk:Voceditenore), or place {{helpme}} here on your talk page, ask your question, and another editor will come along to help. You might also be interested in WikiProject Classical music, WikiProject Composers, and WikiProject Opera. They have various guidelines for articles in this area and talk pages where you can ask advice from editors experienced in writing articles on classical music and related subjects. You'll find these guides particularly useful: WikiProject Composers: Guide to online research and WikiProject Composers: Copyright guidelines. Happy editing and best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 18:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

• PS Are you sure your name belongs on the Berklee class page rather than User:Ijmusic/Futureclass? Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

It's nice to meet you Voceditenore! I have heard nice things about you from Professor Jackson. Thank you for your willingness to help a newbie like me. I have used Wikipedia for some time, but I am new to the concept of posting and creating articles. I am working on a page now (it's a sub-page for the moment). Perhaps you can take a look at it when it is ready?

I think you are right, I did accidentally sign the Berklee class page. I think I have fixed the problem.

Best, Dbalandrin (talk) 01:58, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I've taken the liberty of moving your reply here (new messages go beneath old ones). I'll be happy to take a look at your draft when your ready. You might find it helpful to look at this article recently created by one of your colleagues. I formatted it and made some changes to bring it more in line with Wikipedia guidelines and policies. I also added references to third party sources. This is really crucial in a biography of a living person, but also applies to similar subjects such as a particular composition or an ensemble. You can see what kinds of edits I made by looking at the edit history or by comparing the start point to the current end point. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:15, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Voceditenore! I have created my first Wikipedia page. You can find it at Juventas New Music Ensemble. I eagerly await your feedback and suggestions. Best wishes, Dbalandrin (talk) 21:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi back! You've done a really good job with the formatting, especially the references. I've made a few changes, mainly concerning external links in the infobox and body of the article to the official websites of various people and organizations. These are purely informational (not references) and belong in the External links section. I also removed over-linking on internal links. Once Boston Conservatory is linked, it shouldn't be linked again unless it's a very long article and the two occurrences are far apart. The use of "MA" for "Massachusetts" isn't appropriate as WP has an international readership and these abbreviations are meaningless outside the US. In fact, after the first mention of "Boston, Massachusetts", I'd shorten the remain mentions to simply "Boston". I also re-wrote the sentence about "forging a new path" to make it sound less like an advert and to make it more in line with source referencing it, which was actually referring to the programming and the styles of the composers whose works they play. Finally, my own view is that the table of performances is overly detailed and should probably be discussed as prose instead, but I left it and retitled it to 2009-2010 performances. Otherwise, it looks as if these were their only past performances, and a table like that detailing every one of their performances since 2005 would be inappropriate.

It's good that you were able to find reviews and coverage, as this will help if someone proposes the article for deletion. There is a problem in that the ensemble has no notable members (in the Wikipedia sense), does not seem to have any recordings on a notable label for that genre, and the coverage is very local. The criteria for notability of musicians and ensembles are at WP:MUSICBIO (These obviously get adapted for classical ensembles, but the basic gist remains the same). So any other coverage you can find about some of the composers whose works they have premiered, especially referenced information from independent sources (not the websites of the composers themselves) and independent coverage of the core musicians would be a big help. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

General feedback page

I've also added some general feedback to this year's class as a whole on the Futureclass talk page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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