User talk:Chanheigeorge/Archive 4

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January 2008

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that recently copied the contents of a page and pasted it into another with a different name. Specifically, you copied the contents of Lee R. Martin This is what we call a "cut and paste move," and it is very undesirable because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. The mechanism we use for renaming articles is to move it to a new name which both preserves the page's history and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. In most cases, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself by this process, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves to request the move by another. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. – Pee Jay 11:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Lee Martin

No, I think it would be best to use Lee Martin (footballer born 1987), Lee Martin (footballer born February 1968) and Lee Martin (footballer born September 1968), since those players aren't commonly known by their full names. – Pee Jay 20:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Using "defender" and "goalkeeper" are no good as those positions are not specific to football. Other sports have positions called "defender" and "goalkeeper" too. – Pee Jay 22:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Mendieta

i have change Mendieta as he is still on the Book of Middlesbrough and is still a PREMIER LEAGUE Player. he might play and he might not..

FIFA World Cup

Sorry about that, I thought I had left those in. I didn't intend to remove all of your edits. I removed the federations as they are all found in the wikilink, and is not really relevant to the article on the World Cup. I removed the stuff about Pele because I felt it was glorifying him aboive other people who have played in 4 world Cups. Whether he should be glorified or not is another question, just not in a neutral encyclopedia article. I hope that clarifies it, and sorry for any offense caused. Woody (talk) 23:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Kanchelskis and Yuran

Hey, I'm impressed by your interest in soccer, but trust me there is a reason why I did not include those two of them in the list. Beside them there some few others who prefered to play for Russia over Ukraine. On the international arena the only contribution they've made for their country of origin was the challenge by playing elsewhere and continuing to refuse on contributing now out of the principle. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 04:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, the thing is that those ones actually participated in at least a single official game for Ukraine, unlike Kanchelskis, Yuran, and Dobrovolskiy (who was born in Odessa oblast). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 04:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, mate;) Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 05:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Stubs

May you allow me to ask you to see here [1] that "it is usually desirable to leave two blank lines between the first stub template and whatever precedes it". Kind regards Doma-w (talk) 02:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I was on patrol

Thanks to you and the French communes, there is no use in patrolling new pages. Basketball 110 _{proof that this user is crazy} 23:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Walter Kollmann

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Eddie Johnson (American footballer)

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Portugal at the 1984 EC

There's much confusion about who was the second goalkeeper for Portugal at the 1984 EC. Many sources say Francisco Silva, many others Jorge Martins. Have you got an "ultimate" source? --necronudist (talk) 09:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

AFAIK UEFA listed only lineups, and Francisco Silva/Jorge Martins didn't play (you can retrieve them playing with the Wayback Machine and Google cache, I checked today morning). My sources are a pair of Portuguese friends and many websites provided by them:

Vedeta ou Marreta, a complete Benfica blog. In the tag you can find França 84, plus is written Foi um dos escolhidos por Fernando Cabrita, António Morais, Toni e José Augusto para representar Portugal no Europeu de Futebol realizado em França em 1984. (was selected with [...] to represent Portugal in the 1984 European Championship), plus a comment say Ainda foi o terceiro guarda-redes do Euro-84 (he was the third goalkeeper at Euro-84). I've asked the author of the blog and he kindly answered that:
"I believe some sources mistake him for a certain "Francisco Silva" because of an article in wikipedia, but the truth is that there wasn't even then any Francisco Silva playing goalie in the portuguese top league! Incidentally, Jorge Martins, even though he was called for Euro '84 and later Mexico '86, never got a full cap (!)."

In fact, the only Francisco Silva reference my Portuguese friends' found is this: but he retired after 1955-56 season.

ZeroZero.pt, main Portuguese football website, where you can notice in the right part of the page, at the end of his career, the indication that he took part at 1986 WC and Euro-84.

I'm waiting for a book source from one of my friends, but I think you can easily guess Jorge Martins took part and not "Francisco Silva". :-) --necronudist (talk) 21:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

No :-) his fullname is Jorge Manuel Martins da Silva. I've reverted your reversion citing the ZeroZero.pt source. --necronudist (talk) 09:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Ján Kozák (footballer born 1954)

Hi, I noticed you moved Ján Kozák to Ján Kozák (footballer born 1980). Please could you tell me where you found out about the footballer born in 1954? Thanks! --Jameboy (talk) 22:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Bob Glendenning

Hi, I have been working on an article on the 1912 FA Cup Final and I have been creating articles for the players who took part. I have been using a number of contemporary sources who rever to the one of the Barnsley Half Backs as Bob Glendinning, however it is clear that from the reference in your article that he and his descendants spell his name Glendenning. I propose to add the content and info box from my article (with the spelling corrected) to your article and create a redirect. Any comments? --Gmac101 (talk) 22:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

FIFA World Cup

Regarding the ongoing dispute on FIFA World Cup please see Talk:FIFA World Cup#Fully protected. I have now fully protected the page until you come to an agreement about the page. You also need to remember the three revert rule in future. When in doubt, discuss!! Woody (talk) 20:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Trio Of Italians

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Cardiff City F.C.

It plays in the English football system, so for me it's English also if it is based in Wales. However, this should be discussed in the WP:FOOTBALL. --necronudist (talk) 12:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

It's yet another matter of criteria. For me, the criterium should be where the club plays. In this case, England. Let's discuss it :-) --necronudist (talk) 17:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you mate. --necronudist (talk) 20:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Gábor P. Szabó

Hi! Please check the Gábor P. Szabó article's discussion, I sent you a message there. gabute 11:50, 14 March 2008 (CET)

Whoops!

Thanks I really appreciate you catching my mistake - it was a problem with cascading replacement rules in WP:AWB; I'll get on that immediately. -Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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Aurel Ţicleanu

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David Burrows (footballer) etc

Regarding the hatnotes you added to David Burrows (footballer) etc, according to WP:NAMB, these article names are not ambiguous. If someone was interested in David Burrows (filmmaker) (for example), they would not have ended up at David Burrows (footballer) by mistake. Therefore, would you have a problem with me reverting these changes? --Jameboy (talk) 11:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. I, too, thought they were odd edits. - Dudesleeper / Talk 12:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, since you're continuing to make similar edits after I left my original message, I will drop a note at WP:FOOTY. Cheers. --Jameboy (talk) 12:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Costel Rădulescu

Please take a look at this. Thank you! --necronudist (talk) 09:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry..have you seen? --necronudist (talk) 22:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm in the same situation...however, thank you! --necronudist (talk) 08:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Stuart Wilson

Since there are other Stuart Wilsons, I instead moved the disambig page into Stuart Wilson. Just letting you know (and hoping I was supposed to.) --UsaSatsui (talk) 02:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiCookie

Just stopping by with wikicookies for those editors who started new articles today. --Rosiestep (talk) 07:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Dean Richards

Then please don't move an England international to a disambiguation page.Londo 06 05:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I shall leave it to you to look into the possibility of looking into restoring the page history.Londo 06 06:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Who have you requested looking into it then, otherwise I will have not recourse but to perform the manual move. If you want the page history I would request that you do that.Londo 06 19:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Euro squads

Hi, I am wanted to get some opinions from people here and here. Libro0 (talk) 20:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

List of foreign Premier League players

Congratulations for how you mantained the list. I didn't always agree with your choices, but you've done a great work of perseverance and precision following your criteria. I'll keep an eye on the list to help you with vandalism, but I can say that this list is now yours :-) Saluti! --necronudist (talk) 17:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Where are you moving? However, you'll just alert me when you can't update. I usually updated the list every 3/6 months...not so often! --necronudist (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, as I said: this list now is yours. If you need help, I'm here. However, good luck for your new adventure in Japan! --necronudist (talk) 18:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Adminship

Hello friend! Would you be interested in becoming an admin? I think you deserve it and I'm ready to nominate you. - Darwinek (talk) 13:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hope you'll do fine there. ;) I will be there for you in the future, please don't hesitate to let me know when you will change your mind. Best, - Darwinek (talk) 14:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

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Category:Canadian men's international soccer players

Hi. What is the basis for this edit. How does it comply with WP:SUBCAT?--brew crewer (yada, yada) 00:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Notability of Zygmunt Kalinowski

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Thanks

Just a quick note to say thanks for fixing my minor edit errors on Dave Bright. Obviously I was in tyoo much of a hurry last night.--ClubOranje^Talk 10:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Help appreciated

Hello. Thank you very much for categorisation of the Olympic sportspeople. Much appreciated. Can you please help me with categorisation of beach volleyball players? See Category:Beach volleyball players and Category:Olympic beach volleyball players. New country-specific categories like e.g. Category:American beach volleyball players should be created as well as similar cats for olympic beach volleyball players. Many such players use just e.g. "American volleyball players" or "Olympic volleyball players of the United States", these cats need to be replaced with proper beach volleyball players categories. Thank you, much appreciated. - Darwinek (talk) 14:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Virgin Islands

Hello. Do British Virgin Islands compete at the Olympics? Btw. IOC uses Chinese Taipei name but we have Category:Olympic competitors for Taiwan category. - Darwinek (talk) 09:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Right, but using only "Virgin Islands" will spread confusion among editors. I can really imagine people wrongly categorized cause of this. Should we bring it to WPP:Olympics or resolve between the two of us? I think there is no controversy, just a technical issue. - Darwinek (talk) 11:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Gintarė Volungevičiūtė

Thanks for adding the medal infobox to the article I started.

How many articles will be listed in Category:Olympic sailors of Lithuania?

--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 09:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Depends on whether there are more pages of Olympic sailors of Lithuania created. Chanheigeorge (talk) 09:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I assumed you created the category because you knew of some, or planned to create them. If that is not the case, I think we should merge the category with its parents. It can always be created again once its parent categories become too full. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 09:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

If you notice, the category is under both Category:Olympic competitors for Lithuania and Category:Olympic sailors by country. So this way we have a category structure that categorize all the Olympians under both country and sport. So we create a new category even when there is only one page. Chanheigeorge (talk) 09:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

To me, this seems to be a case of over-categorization, appropriate for large Olympic teams, but not for small ones. Gintarė Volungevičiūtė can simply be in Sailors of Lithuania, Olympic sailors and Olympic athletes of Lithuania. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 09:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The downside, as you said, is that some of these "Olympic (sport competitors) of (country)" is going to be huge while some will only have one page. The upside is that it's structurally consistent this way, so it helps editors correctly categorize the page instantly. Say we do not create "Olympic sailors of Lithuania" and put the page in both "Olympic competitors for Lithuania" and "Olympic sailors". However, over time, two problems will emerge:

Say 4 years later I create another page of a Lithuanian Olympic sailor. Then I have to check whether "Olympic sailors of Lithuania" has been created yet to determine what categories I have to add to the page. This does not help me editing.
Say we decide that we create "Olympic sailors of Lithuania" once there are 10 pages. How can I determine that? If I go to "Olympic competitors for Lithuania", I have no idea who is a sailor or not, so I have to click on every single page. If I go to "Olympic sailors", I have no idea who is Lithuanian or not, so I have to click on every single page. So recategorizing the pages are going to waste you a lot of time later.

Believe me, at the beginning of the year the whole categorization situation is quite messy. Even if there are categories such as "Olympic swimmers of the United States", a lot of eligible pages are still in "Olympic competitors for the United States". That's because when people create pages they tend to copy and paste what they see in other pages, so if one page is in the "incorrect" category, soon you will have 10 pages in the "incorrect" category. So we make the effort to put every Olympian under "Olympic (sport competitors) of (country)". Consider the large amount of athlete pages created in the last week, and almost all of them are categorized correctly, I think this scheme has been very successful. Chanheigeorge (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

All makes sense. Thanks for the clear explanation: and for your thorough contributions. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 10:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Haiti at the 1924 Summer Olympics

Hey, maybe you can help me shed some light on something. I noticed that you created articles for seven shooting medalists for Haiti at the 1924 Summer Olympics. Both Sports Reference and databaseOlympics, however, list only five medalists in that event, the extra two being L. H. Clermont and C. Dupre. My guess is that the latter two were listed as participants, but were either reserves or did not compete for some reason. Do you know/have a source for why this discrepancy exists? Cheers, CP 19:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I see it now. Thanks! Cheers, CP 02:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Trouble with reversions in List of stripped Olympic medals

Chanheigeorge, I'm not a big Wikipedian, so I'm asking for help in keeping an eye on List of stripped Olympic medals. Someone has twice incorrectly moved Rick DeMont's name from "stripped" to "stripped-and-returned." Would appreciate any help in the matter. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.238.17.164 (talk) 00:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Well done

Award

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I, Darwinek, hereby award you this barnstar for your hard work during the 2008 Olympic Games. Your devoted work in updating and categorizing Olympic articles helped me a lot. Darwinek (talk) 10:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Trevor Cahill

I expanded Trevor Cahill's entry. I'm a little bit of an over protective Dad with the articles I've written, so I hope you don't mind that I did that. I noticed that you wrote entries for a couple of players on the Olympic team. In my opinion, I'd expand them all beyond one sentence if I were you.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 00:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

List of United States journalism scandals nominated for deletion

Someone has nominated List of United States journalism scandals for deletion. Most other contributors have been informed from the non-list article, so I'm informing you also, as like myself, you have contributed to the list version. Regards, --Matt Lewis (talk) 20:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

David Arnoldo Cabrera

Hi! You wrote November 22, 1944 as DOB in the infobox, but 12 September 1945 in the article...what's the right one? --necronudist (talk) 09:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Colin Foster

Hello. You created this page as disambiguation, but when I went through it, one of the 2 needed to be deleted as it was a red link with nothing else linked to it (see WP:MOSDAB red links sections if you're interested in the details). With one entry, I changed it to a redirect, but I can see its potentially useful, so thought I'd let you know. That way, if you start a stub on the other footballer, then this could be changed back to a dab. Boleyn (talk) 11:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)