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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ngui Min Fui, Tom (December 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Ibjaja055 were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Ibjaja055 (talk) 05:00, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cen2mftn! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Ibjaja055 (talk) 05:00, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ibjaja055, what am I doing wrong? My draft article (Draft:Ngui Min Fui, Tom) is removed or displaced.

Understand I may not have done it correctly. Could you spend a little time to help me? Thanks. Cen2mftn (talk) 11:54, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, Cen2mftn, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

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Hi Jim,

Got your message, thanks. First article attempt got deleted. Probably quite common. Still sad.

As you rightly mentioned, conflict of interest (COI) is the problem. Is there a workaround? Do I get someone else to write about me or are there more ways to just about keep article neutral enough for publication? Can I trouble you to have a look whether if it's worth my time requesting for a retrieval of the deleted content for another try? Thanks. Cen2mftn (talk) 01:17, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I think you have the name wrong, biographies here are surname last, ie John Smith, not Smith, John. If you have a conflict of interest, you are discouraged from writing about yourself, but it's not actually banned. Paying someonbe to write it for you is usually a bad idea; at best, there are strict rules on paid editing, at worst you could be scammed. Please read the guidance below:

When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.

Your text had few adequate inline references at all. Your own social media and other websites affiliated to you are not acceptable
sources should confirm what you claim. For example, your first ref, to the Engineering Council, doesn't even mention you, let alone confirm your nationality, date of birth or the other claimed memberships. Many of your other refs are your own sites or link to pages that don't support what you have claimed
your patents are hardly independent third-party sources, as required here, and don't make you notable.
Without proper sources, I can't tell if you meet the notability guidelines

You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.

Your text is full of self-praise, eg He is widely recognised for his contributions... Ngui has been at the forefront of efforts to improve Sabah’s resilience... His work reflects a commitment to sustainability, inclusivity, and innovative problem-solving for the long-term benefit of the region.&mdash: and so on, fact-free spam

There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.

Your text was littered with external links, which apart from anything else mostly linked to sites that didn't even confirm your claims, such as most of the awards.

You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. If you are writing about yourself, you have a conflict of interest, and you must disclose the nature of that COI. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]