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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:The Kaplan Thaler Group
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A tag has been placed on Draft:The Kaplan Thaler Group, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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January 2020
[edit] Draft:The Kaplan Thaler Group has been deleted
Hello, Cccommander. Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia-- the world's largest free content encyclopedia.
I'm sorry, but Draft:The Kaplan Thaler Group has been deleted as meeting WP:CSD#G11. "This applies to pages that are exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to conform with Wikipedia:NOTFORPROMOTION." These must be rewritten from scratch from "reliable, third party sources unconnected to the subject." See WP:RS.
Wikipedia:Identifying blatant advertising#Typical signs of blatant advertising contains information about content to avoid. For more information on content that may be perceived as promotional, click User:Deepfriedokra/promo. These are just rough guides. Pages can avoid all those pitfalls and still be glaringly obvious ad copy. Sometimes pages meeting WP:CSD#G11 give the appearance of an editor violating Wikipedia:Conflict of interest or WP:PAID. Please read and heed them if they apply to you. Please read Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations.
There is a very common mistake of assuming that the prohibition against promotional editing applies only to promotion for commercial gain, but that is not so. Sometimes creators of promotional content are bewildered that it is considered such. If one has been trained to write or spent some time writing corporate documents or mission/vision statements or anything similar, they may simply be blind to the promotionality. It can be hard to unlearn.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia-- subjects must meet notability guidelines with reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and providing verifiable information. That generally means someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject. Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources . Template:cite has templates you can use in citing your sources. Place the template {{references}} at the bottom of the page, and references cited in the text will appear there.
The new user tutorial can help you avoid future problems. -- Deepfriedokra 04:49, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Hi Cccommander! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
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[edit]- Hi Cccommander! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
-- 00:17, Tuesday, August 11, 2020 (UTC)
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Your thread has been archived
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Hi Cccommander! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse,
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November 2021
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Hello, I'm Ost316. I noticed that you recently removed all content from Kaplan Thaler Group. Please do not do this. Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. As a rule, if you discover a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If a page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you wish to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Kaplan Thaler Group page may be created if it is demonstrably notable, but the redirect should remain until the content is created. A discussion or tagging the page with {{R with possibilities}} are appropriate way to indicate that a redirect may warrant expansion.
As an additional note, the Publicis New York article is fairly short, so before creating an article, it may be better to start with including a section about Kaplan Thaler Group and changing the redirect to directly point to the section. Ost (talk) 00:12, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Ok, I understand most of the above is this where I chat with you? there is a wiki page for Kaplan Thaler Group [1]
and a wiki page for The Kaplan Thaler Group. [2]
The company was called The Kaplan Thaler Group so I thought it was redundant to have 2 pages for the same company and I chose to keep the one that was most accurate. They are currently only being used as a redirect to promote another company. I was going to start building out The Kaplan Thaler Group page but I didn't have the encyclopedic content ready yet. It isn't easy contributing to wikipedia... I've tried for years and it never sticks... I will try your ideas above. Cccommander (talk) 00:29, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you have had a hard time editing at Wikipdia. Generally, it's easier to cleanup existing articles than creating a new one, as sourcing requirements have become stronger. I agree that it is redundant to have two pages, though I'm not certain that the one with "The" is a more appropriate title for Wikipedia. When I commented, I was unaware of the two, similarly-titled redirects. It was good that you included content on the page and references, rather than first blanking it, though more content and references are needed to show that the group is notable and that it should be have its own page. You may want to discuss it further at Talk:Publicis New York; I'm giving general Wikipedia advice, but I don't know the company details.
- I was suggesting that the content first be created at Publicis New York#Kaplan Thaler Group and then created into its own article if the section was getting large and demonstrated independent notability. You may also consider writing a draft at Draft:Kaplan Thaler Group and using the WP:AfC process to move it into mainspace. Since your redirects to The Kaplan Thaler Group were reverted, I've added them to a section as I had suggested.