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2023 North Devon District Council election

Just to let you know as a fellow AfC reviewer, election articles, including articles on Local elections in England, can be accepted before the results have been announced. I have accepted this draft as it qualifies for an article and is certainly not a test article. Thanks, Wikieditor019 (If I do not respond, please visit my talk page) 16:18, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm aware of election notability and that articles can be accepted before taking place. My problem with the article was that it was unfinished — the tables were using outdated dates, had some information from previous years, and some were empty for no reason — it had clearly just been copied and pasted from a previous article in the serious. This, of course, is fine, but it needed to be cleaned up a bit before to prevent it from being published with semi-innaccurate information. I used the 'test article' decline because there was really nothing else that would've worked because it was incomplete. Thinking back, it probably would've been smarter to leave a comment instead of a decline, though. Either way, thanks for letting me know and rereviewing the article. Happy editing, Clear friend a ^💬 01:19, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Of course, no problem! Just letting you know. Thanks, Wikieditor019 (If I do not respond, please visit my talk page) 16:21, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Oakwood High School (Ohio)

Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Oakwood High School (Ohio), may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows:

A "bare URL and missing title" error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. (Fix | Ask for help)

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can (bot)&section=new report it to my operator. Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 03:50, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Good faith

My apologies for the revert! It was accidental. I believe we were editing simultaneously. Ivan (talk) 18:36, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Of course! This happens all the time. No problem at all. Clear friend a ^💬 19:50, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Getting Web Archive to archive pages

Good afternoon: thank you for your help with my edit on Art Metrano. I see you were able to get the clipping I made archived on web.archive.org . Can you help guide me on how you did that? I would like to do this on future research/edits I make for Wikipedia. thanks, DSHarry DarkStarHarry (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

@DarkStarHarry: Hello! I edited your article Art Metrano because it was in the archive-url citation error category (if I remember correctly). I edited two citations. I'm not sure which one you're asking about. The first one was www.artmetrano.com/fox , which I noticed was cited as a bare URL with a web.archive.org/web/*/ link.

When you see a web.archive.org/web/*/https://example.com link, that means you're linking to the page's "calendar," which displays, in calendar format, all the days and times that pages was archvied on. If you hover over one of those days and click on a time, you'll be brought to the actual archive for that page at that specfic time. The URL will then have a timestamp instead of the "*". For example, if I wanted to look at Google's archive history, I would first go to web.archive.org/web/*/https://google.com, where the calendar would show up. To find an archive for January 17, 2004, you click on the "2004" section of the timeline (that shows a graph of the number of archived pages), and then you'd be shown a 2004 calendar. To find the archive on the 17th of that month, you'd click on "17" in January, and it would show you a list of times that pages was archived on that day. The first page capture (at 5 AM on January 17, 2004) is accessible with the URL web.archive.org/web/20040117050044/http://www.google.com/ (the part in bold is the timestamp, in YYYY MM DD HH MINMIN SS format). When adding an archive from the Internet Archive to Wikipedia, make sure to always use that format (with the proper timestamp), or it will produce an error. Make sure to add the archive-date parameter as well, which is the date the capture is from (in the example: January 17, 2004).

What I use, which, in my opinion is much quicker (especially when trying to go quickly, like when I'm fixing errors), is by visiting one of the following shortcut URLs: web.archive.org/web/0/https://example.com (which brings you to the oldest capture of that page) or web.archive.org/web/2/https://example.com (which brings you to the newest capture of that page).

The second citation I fixed was from newspapers.com. The problem with that citation was that there was no url parameter, which is necessary for cite web templates. There was only an archive-url parameter, which had the non-archived URL. All I did here was add a URL parameter, make its value www.newspapers.com/clip/123829648/personalitis/ (the original value of the archive-url parameter), then, since there was an archive-url parameter originally, I found the proper web.archive.org capture by visiting web.archive.org/web/2/www.newspapers.com/clip/123829648/personalitis/ (the newest capture available for that page), and added the proper timestamped URL (web.archive.org/web/20230430235555/https://www.newspapers.com/clip/123829648/personalitis/) to the archive-url parameter, and filled in the archive date. I don't remember if I archived that page myself, but if I did, it was most likely via the Wayback Machine browser extension (which allows you to automatically archive all pages you visit, manually archive outlinks of pages, bypass ratelimits & slow archive speeds, etc.). If you're looking into archiving citations on Wikipedia, I recommend getting that extension.

Hopefully archiving pages is a bit less confusing now. I recommend reading some of the help articles on the subject. Some you might find useful are: WP:WAYBACK, WP:ARCHIVETODAY, WP:WEBARCHIVES, Help: Archiving a source, Template:Web archive, Help:CS1#Web archives, WP:LINKROT, and Wikipedia:Citing sources/Further considerations (there are way too many to list).

If you're still confused (I would be after reading what I just wrote) or have any questions about my edits to the page in question, let me know, and I'll try to explain whatever it is again.

Happy editing! Clear friend a ^💬 02:07, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

You've gone above and beyond with your answer. I was looking for the extension (and how to get pages into the wayback machine site), but your explanation goes beyond that. I thank you! DarkStarHarry (talk) 19:21, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

No problem! Happy to help. Clear friend a ^💬 15:19, 5 May 2023 (UTC)