User talk:Bradv/Archive 21
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Matt Taven
Hello. I have seen you protected the article. I explain.
Since several weeks, users remove that information. As you can see, there are several editions [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. These ditions were reverted by me and several other editors [6] [7] [8]. The edition is well sourced and was part of the article when it was promoted to GA [9]. The only reason the IP give to remove the content is "we spread hate", "vengaful person" and similar, when several articles include parts of reception by media, good or bad. Can you, at least, include again the soruced content into the article? Thanks --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 07:47, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- HHH Pedrigree, you reverted that change 21 times in less than 12 hours, without a single attempt to discuss it. No, I'm not going to revert it back to your preferred version – get consensus on the talk page. – bradv🍁 14:48, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- I reverted a vandalism. As I explained, several IPs removed that edition several times in the past and other users reverted them. The edition passed the GA nomination, it's well sourced and fits WP:CRITICISM. It was the last stable version before the edit warring. The only argument the user (that created an account for that purpose) gave was "hate, vengafull person". Well, I gave my arguments in the tal kpage,but I expect no anwer from that user. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- HHH Pedrigree, VANDALISM has a very specific definition, which this does not appear to meet. I have no knowledge of this subject matter, but it looks to me like this editor has some concerns with the material, and it would be a good idea to attempt to understand what those are. I have left them a talk page inviting them to participate. If you can get consensus for your version without their input, you can use an {{Edit fully-protected}} request to have them implemented. – bradv🍁 15:46, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- ok. He responded. Im working right now, so I will answer him later. Can you be a neutral referee between the two? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Bradv. As you can see, we talked about the Matt Taven edition in the talk page. I gave several arguments, including Wikipedia policies. But the other user just doesn't want criticism on the article. His only arguments are "I'm a bad person who wants to attack ROH and Matt Taven", which is not true. You said we have to reach a consensus, but he doesn't want the content, which I think helps readers to undertand the wrestler and his work in his context. Can you read the talk page as an imparcial judge? Thanks --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- ok. He responded. Im working right now, so I will answer him later. Can you be a neutral referee between the two? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- HHH Pedrigree, VANDALISM has a very specific definition, which this does not appear to meet. I have no knowledge of this subject matter, but it looks to me like this editor has some concerns with the material, and it would be a good idea to attempt to understand what those are. I have left them a talk page inviting them to participate. If you can get consensus for your version without their input, you can use an {{Edit fully-protected}} request to have them implemented. – bradv🍁 15:46, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- I reverted a vandalism. As I explained, several IPs removed that edition several times in the past and other users reverted them. The edition passed the GA nomination, it's well sourced and fits WP:CRITICISM. It was the last stable version before the edit warring. The only argument the user (that created an account for that purpose) gave was "hate, vengafull person". Well, I gave my arguments in the tal kpage,but I expect no anwer from that user. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Request
Hi Bradv. My query is with regards to AFL in Pakistan, whose AfD you closed recently here. I have taken a look at various sources and would like to work on the subject in my draft space. Would it be possible for you to restore the page histories of both Australian rules football in Pakistan and Pakistan national Australian rules football team into here and here if possible? Thanks, Mar4d (talk) 09:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Mar4d, restored to User:Mar4d/Australian rules football in Pakistan. The second one was just a redirect to the first, with no usable content in the history. – bradv🍁 13:32, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! I appreciate it. Best regards, Mar4d (talk) 14:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
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Regarding 2601:46:C801:B1F0:2927:3097:A2C0:1CAF
Thank you. The level of WP:SEALIONING has been immense and trying to break down the walls of text and determine what it is they're trying to say is exhausting. 2601:2C0:C300:B7:B5C1:27E9:546F:9D78 (talk) 02:58, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Could you be so kind as to take part in the ongoing discussions about the Gospel of Matthew? And here User:Beeblebrox. Thanks in advance! Edion Petriti (talk) 12:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Edion Petriti, I just had a quick read, and it looks like the talk page is functioning as intended. You had some viewpoints you wanted to add to the article, they were contested, and now you're discussing them on the talk page. If you need additional input to the discussion in order to reach a consensus, try start a request for comment. That usually works better than soliciting editors directly, as they may feel they were canvassed to the discussion and therefore shouldn't participate. Nevertheless, I have added the page to my watchlist. – bradv🍁 14:12, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Pakistanpedia
Hey B, since you were the last to look at the Pakistanpedia SPIs, do you know if there's any CU data on the master still floating around that would allow you to connect current editors to the master? I have a hunch about an editor who's been around for a while, who has many intersections with this master, and who has recreated some of the master's deleted articles. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb, I can take a look, but there's a good chance that anything more than 3 months old won't be of much use, especially in that part of the world. Any investigation is going to have to focus mostly on behaviour. – bradv🍁 20:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Understood. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:40, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
134.215.190.243
Can user:134.215.190.243 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 01:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Regarding Deletion Discussion of Omar Hosari
Hi Sir, Hope you are doing good. I am writing to you to inform about deletion discussion of Omar Hosari. I know you closed the discussion with all your knowledge. I am not questioning about your closure decesion. But only want you to please take a view on this again. "This article is deleted on the basis of other page discussion (UAS International Trip Support), please check this. While the current subject (Omar Hosari) is completely different from the company page. Please check both the subjects and their content." ANTCrowd439 (talk) 11:35, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- ANTCrowd439, what is your connection to the subject of this article? – bradv🍁 14:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you
Thank you for the speedy support :-) Vikram Vincent 05:48, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- Vincentvikram, you're welcome. Please do me a favour though, and next time you see something like this send me an email or follow the instructions at WP:RFO rather than posting on my talk page. Cheers, – bradv🍁 21:46, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- Will do! I haven't touched my email in 8months due to anxiety issues and did not want to open it now. This was the fastest I could reach out :-) Thanks again Vikram Vincent 03:25, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
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Simpson?
Hi, Can you provide a reviewable cite that this person's legal last name is now Simpson? AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 22:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- AllGloryToTheHypnotoad, I'm not sure why it's no longer sourced in-line, but there was a source for this at some point. Perhaps it should be removed as it's not really relevant. Either way, don't deadname them. – bradv🍁 22:12, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Jeremih
Hello Bradv, can you suppress the edit summary here? Thank you. Jerm (talk) 21:05, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Jerm, done. – bradv🍁 21:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
sir, I respectfully ask you to intervene in a dispute I have with a user who blocked me with no appeal, with a dishonoring reason without proof whatsoever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MER-C
--LeftowikiTemp (talk) 18:27, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Discouraging ArbCom cases
Hi Brad... are you suggesting that a mandatory 20 h course in chemistry for all parties to an ArbCom case, to be undertaken between case acceptance and the evidence phase being opened, could be an incentive for reflection and coming to settlements prior to ArbCom having to take a case? EdChem (talk) 01:19, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- That would certainly be an effective deterrent, but it might be more suitable as a remedy. It could backfire though, as there has been some suggestion that having to read about chemistry isn't good for our arbitrator recruitment efforts. – bradv🍁 14:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
2020 election
Bradv, I have read your user page. I believe I am eligible to vote in the 2020 Arbitration election. Thank you for your contributions to make Wikipedia a better place. I truly believe that this is your sole intention. You have my vote. Dswitz10734 (talk) 19:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind words. – bradv🍁 15:17, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- Came here to say basically this. I've appreciated your service this past year; even when I haven't agreed I always find your contributions helpful and constructive in understanding the issue at and, and certainly very thoughtful. If you're able to run again, you'd have my vote as well. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:38, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Can't believe I'm not the first by a whole 6 days - that's just embarassing! Anyway, I think you should run again - you've actively participated in a large number of heated evidence, workshop, and PD talk pages this year to get the community's views, which is always like sticking your head above the parapet, but definitely makes your candidature beneficial. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, okay, it's up. Thanks for the encouragement. ;) – bradv🍁 04:02, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Can't believe I'm not the first by a whole 6 days - that's just embarassing! Anyway, I think you should run again - you've actively participated in a large number of heated evidence, workshop, and PD talk pages this year to get the community's views, which is always like sticking your head above the parapet, but definitely makes your candidature beneficial. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Came here to say basically this. I've appreciated your service this past year; even when I haven't agreed I always find your contributions helpful and constructive in understanding the issue at and, and certainly very thoughtful. If you're able to run again, you'd have my vote as well. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:38, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Bradley. I hope you are doing well. What happens if there are no other nominations till November 17? Do you get the seat automatically/without elections? Or do you have to achieve support in consensus like an RfA? And/or does Google search break down? —usernamekiran (talk) 23:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- In that case, bradv gets seven votes at arbcom. Natureium (talk) 23:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- And seven times the pay! – bradv🍁 03:31, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- In that case, bradv gets seven votes at arbcom. Natureium (talk) 23:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Dear Bradv, I know that ArbCom is a committee, which means that there are several members. Does this mean that voters can vote for multiple candidates? Dswitz10734 (talk) 21:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Dswitz10734 short answer is yes. The 5 minute answer might also be worth reading if you haven't already. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:00, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Barkeep49, thank you for your help. Dswitz10734 (talk) 13:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
section re blocked New Jersey WWII war crimes IP
Borrowing this section as I have range issue as well. The blocked New Jersey WWII war crimes IP that I posted about on your talk page (User talk:Bradv/Archive 20#New evasive IP) has returned as 2601:81:C400:7FB0:0:0:0:0/64 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Over and out, --Pudeo (talk) 21:46, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Pudeo, blocked. I'm wondering if there are some pages that might need to be semi-protected too. That could be easier than playing whack-a-mole. – bradv🍁 21:55, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Probably. This topic area of WWII war crimes / casualties is a mess. There are atleast four recently active sockmasters in this area: this IP, Jack90s15, MarquinhosWikipediano and Accopulocrat. The problem is that it also includes almost countless of articles... but atleast List of wars and anthropogenic disasters by death toll, Battle of Moscow, Population transfer in the Soviet Union, Khatyn massacre and Genocidal rape seem to be a recurring article for more than one of them. I'm sure they will find many other similar articles, though. That is annoying. --Pudeo (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
203.122.228.123
Can user:203.122.228.123 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 23:21, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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2601:46:c801:b1f0::/64
Hi Bradv,
Since you were the one who blocked them the last time, I thought you should know that 2601:46:c801:b1f0::/64 has returned to Talk:Proud Boys, spamming four separate threads onto the page as well as hitting three different individuals' talk pages.
Contribs list: [10]
They are definitely the same one that you blocked as "(Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia: spreading disinformation / POV-pushing)". Their first post started ranting stuff about Reilly again at Vexations's talk page [11], then their second about "a marxist humanist academic" and "Einstein" and "Math Rhetoric Weekly" at ItsPugle's [12]. IHateAccounts (talk) 02:13, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I don't think this rises to the level of actual disinformation as in October, but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on Special:Contribs/2601:46:C801:B1F0:0:0:0:0/64. – bradv🍁 02:31, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- I hate to even ask this but I think 3Kingdoms and 2601:46:c801:b1f0::/64 might be the same person or otherwise connected. In this comment [13] 3Kingdoms claims "I explained that none of the sources are by experts of fascism, one has no academic background I could find, one was found to have lied about her race, one uses proto-fascism as opposed to neo, etc."
- Thing is... 3Kingdoms has never before [14] posted anything that I can find regarding "one uses proto-fascism as opposed to neo", but 2601:46:c801:b1f0::/64 has just recently done so (in one of their spammed threads, where they seem to have some Wikipedia:Competence is required issues regarding the definitions of words). And both of them have the same strange and non-policy-compliant attitude to what constitutes a Wikipedia:Reliable source. IHateAccounts (talk) 18:22, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Could it even be this? Talk:Proud_Boys/Archive_3#Sock I am looking at some of the contributions [15] and I think I may see why they attacked SummerPhDv2.0 on their return [16]. I hope you don't mind if I tag @GorillaWarfare: for her analysis and advice too? IHateAccounts (talk) 18:34, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- IHateAccounts, I don't see a technical connection between any of those accounts. I appreciate that there are some common talking points being repeated here, but it's certainly possible that multiple people hold this point of view, or are influenced by the same sources. I suggest continuing to focus on the arguments rather than the contributors. – bradv🍁 18:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Bradv: I'm still concerned. The IP Special:Contribs/2601:46:C801:B1F0:0:0:0:0/64 says "It is too much as they haven't been able to do it for six months. ", but their record at the special link you provided only goes back to September. IHateAccounts (talk) 20:39, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- After seeing their latest [17] the grammar errors, lengthy sentences and other writing similarities (errors such as "it list her majors as psychology and communication", "Hosang focus is on", "McLaren focus is critical studies", "if you don't make a background on") are incredibly similar to some of the rants from Special:Contribs/2601:46:C801:B1F0:0:0:0:0/64 to me. IHateAccounts (talk) 01:16, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Bradv: I'm still concerned. The IP Special:Contribs/2601:46:C801:B1F0:0:0:0:0/64 says "It is too much as they haven't been able to do it for six months. ", but their record at the special link you provided only goes back to September. IHateAccounts (talk) 20:39, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- IHateAccounts, I don't see a technical connection between any of those accounts. I appreciate that there are some common talking points being repeated here, but it's certainly possible that multiple people hold this point of view, or are influenced by the same sources. I suggest continuing to focus on the arguments rather than the contributors. – bradv🍁 18:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Election
Good luck in the Arb election. SilkTork (talk) 14:50, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Once your block expires you can appeal at WP:AE. But if you do, I wouldn't bother trying to convince people that your edits weren't disruptive. – bradv🍁 23:21, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
November
Thank you for being ready to serve on arbcom, and as a brave first candidate ;) - Good luck! - I still have yesterday's good top story to offer, - and a little below is my vision for 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Today's DYK: to be sung "happily" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, that anthem is one of my favourites, and I had great fun learning to sing it last year. (And yes if you don't sing it "happily" you'll never get the little flourish right. Or the syncopation on the last line.) Thanks for writing the article, and congratulations on the DYK – how many is that now? – bradv🍁 00:19, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- It was one of the songs given to me - click on "November" if you didn't - and was given twice. I wrote the article on the anniversary of one of the givers ;) - #1508 that was, today we have a Japanese singer whom I heard in one of the strangest concerts of my life, when the conductor had to be taken to a hospital, feeling weak during the delayed warm-up (air controllers' strike, players and singers were there but instruments came late, - I remember all these singers dressed in black waiting in the cloisters on a summer evening), - and the choral conductor was willing to conduct those symphony parts with singing, which included Urlicht. Will update my talk, an almost daily morning routine, so check it out in case of interest. - Did you ever read the ultimate guide? - to the beauty ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- In case you want to look at a an article related to "my question": L'ange de Nisida, - mentioned under #Donizetti on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- That one resolved, what do you think of Hippolyte et Aricie? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
replacing clerks
Soon I'll have nothing to do as the bots/modules will take over . Thanks for creating the module. One less thing to do is best. Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 20:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Dreamy Jazz, yeah this one was overdue to get automated. For the time being we'll still have to manage the open cases and recent cases sections manually, as Lua doesn't seem to have any way of obtaining a list of pages in a category. But case requests, clarification/amendment requests, and motions are all automated now. Please let me know if you notice any issues. – bradv🍁 21:13, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Will do. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 22:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Just a thought, do hatted ARCA requests / motions show up in the current list with the new module. Normally the hatted requests / motions are not shown in the current list (as it is closed). It being there or not there isn't necessarily important (and would remind clerks to remove it 24 hours later if it was), but its probably best that the module implements what we previously did. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 23:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- I imagine thins will still need some tweaking. The way it's coded right now I believe collapsed requests would stay on the page, but I think the wrong date will be displayed in the box. I'll tweak that once we have some live data to work with. – bradv🍁 23:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Just a thought, do hatted ARCA requests / motions show up in the current list with the new module. Normally the hatted requests / motions are not shown in the current list (as it is closed). It being there or not there isn't necessarily important (and would remind clerks to remove it 24 hours later if it was), but its probably best that the module implements what we previously did. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 23:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Will do. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 22:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
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ArbCom candidate questions
I just added two questions for you at:
Although it is the 11th hour, I welcome your response.
You may find my comments here relevant: Too many questions (permalink) --David Tornheim (talk) 14:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
New Page Patrol December Newsletter
Hello Bradv,
- Year in review
It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
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1 | DannyS712 bot III (talk) | 67,552 | Patrol Page Curation |
2 | Rosguill (talk) | 63,821 | Patrol Page Curation |
3 | John B123 (talk) | 21,697 | Patrol Page Curation |
4 | Onel5969 (talk) | 19,879 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | JTtheOG (talk) | 12,901 | Patrol Page Curation |
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Notepad.js suggestion
Hi. Can I suggest declaring the CSS for your script in a separate css file? It has the added benefit of adding syntax highlighting for the CSS. Just a thought. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- DannyS712, thanks for the suggestion. I'll see if I can work that in to the next update. Hope you like the script. – bradv🍁 14:38, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Block Request
Hi, Bradv! We've met once before, I was one of your supporters for ACE2020. Anyway, I was investigating Wikipedians looking for help, and I came across this. According to @Exxcalibur808, This IP has been disruptively editing the page List of FIDE chess world number ones, and as you can see from the hyperlink labeled "This IP", since December 2018 this is the only page that this "user" has edited. Exxcalibur808 suggested that the IP be blocked. They also pointed out that this may be a robot. I'll keep an eye on this page for any replies. I also tagged Exxcalibur because I thought that they might be able to give you a firsthand account of what's been going on. Thanks! Dswitz10734 (talk) 12:20, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Dswitz10734, I recommend citing a source for the data. That's the best way to determine which version is correct. – bradv🍁 14:44, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Your recent CANSANFRANBANFRAM RfD close
Hi Brad, I'm sure you meant well, but this edit of yours caught my attention. I don't see that the discussion needed to be speedy closed, and I don't think 4thfile4thrank needed to be slapped down for not knowing something. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:07, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- I would suggest 4thfile4thrank needs more than being slapped down - they're charging head first into a CIR indefinite block right now. I've just been tidying up more of their 'work'. They desperately and urgently need to slow down and to ask others what things are, if what they're doing is sensible and if there's anything they can learn. Nick (talk) 15:13, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Nick, Hmmm, I just read their talk page. I see what you mean. Carry on. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:37, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Beethoven 250 years
Beethoven in 1803 |
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The birthday display! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Your close at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dinsmores, California
Hi Bradv. Regarding this close - there is a clear consensus to delete all, and an actual notice on the page is not a strict requirement for deletion as far as I am aware (though I welcome correction on this). The author of the pages was notified about the deletion. Alternatively could we not relist the discussion, with the requirement that AFD notices are added to the articles rather than ask everyone to go through the rigmarole of re-voting again?
We are dealing with a problem of many thousands of such articles. Mass-nomination, with checks on each article of course, is the only way it can feasibly be cleared. Asking people to vote and re-vote on thousands of such articles, all of which have essentially the same problems (fail WP:GEOLAND due to use of bad/misrepresented sources) is an obvious non-starter. FOARP (talk) 10:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- FOARP, is there a full list of these pages compiled somewhere? I think we can probably do a mass-nomination of all of them, but we should have a full list of articles before the discussion begins. The ones you added to that AfD were just the ones beginning with A–D. – bradv🍁 17:46, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Bradv - Unfortunately there is no full listing though of course I could (given enough time) create one. The editor who created all these articles is one of the most prolific (in terms of articles created) editors on Wiki, and their edit-count greatly exceeds the maximum number of edits that can be handled by the article-creation tracking tool. I just nom'd A-D as a trial-run to see if it would gain acceptance as other editors working on the clean-up project doubted that it would be accepted as they're used to people arguing that articles should be kept based on GNIS cites (despite GNIS apparently being unreliable at least for this kind of data). Even just collecting A-D was several hours work as it meant going through the California ghost-town list and identifying one-by-one the stub articles that were created relying only on the two sources (Durham and GNIS) that we know to be problematic. If you have a look at Carlossuarez46's talk page you can get a feel for the scale of the problem - nearly 400 AFD nominations and PRODs already, but this has taken several editors a month to do and we're probably only about 10% of the way through this mess. Mass deletion of the worst offending articles as WP:TNT is the only way through this that makes sense and won't clog up AFD. FOARP (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, Bradv, had a chance to give this another look? FOARP (talk) 19:34, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you want me to do. If you want all these articles deleted, make a group nomination listing them all. It will have to account for all the edge-cases such as those that are mentioned in the above discussion, but provided people take the time to do a proper investigation it should be an effective way of handling this — far better than tacking them onto an existing AfD. – bradv🍁 21:09, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, Bradv, had a chance to give this another look? FOARP (talk) 19:34, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Could you add more rationale to your closure? As you know, this is not a vote. I think the keep arguments are very weak and almost all have been challenged. If you find the challenges not valid, please explain. The article has almost zero content that's not in-universe, the argument that 'it is better' because it now has a one-sentence receptions section are hardly convincing or policy-based. At the very least, I think this should be relisted further. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- The majority of those who commented favoured keeping the article. While there are good arguments presented on both sides of the discussion, there simply isn't a consensus in that discussion. I don't see any way that keeping the discussion open longer would result in a consensus to delete, given the large number of people who already commented, and the fact that the only !votes after the last relist were against deletion. Relisting simply isn't going to change the outcome, in my opinion. – bradv🍁 21:19, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 19
News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (December 2020).
Hello everyone and welcome to the 19th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:
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- Voting in the m:Community Wishlist Survey 2021 is ongoing until December 21, 2020. There are 15 proposals in the "bots and gadgets" category that may be of interest.
- A script to help list discussions at WP:ANRFC (request)
- A script to allow undoing edits despite conflicting intermediary edits (request)
- ...and many more, all available at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests
- The Watchlist Expiry feature worked on by the Community Tech team has been enabled on Wikipedia. For scripts that include watching or unwatching pages, developers may want to update their code to take advantage of the new functionality. See the documentation on mediawiki.org.
- As noted in the prior issue, Enterprisey's links-in-logs script has now been implemented as part of MediaWiki core. By my count, this is his third script that was replaced by implementing the code in MediaWiki core or an extension, along with link-section-edits and abusefilter-hide-search. Additionally, his reply-link script is being converted in part to mw:Extension:DiscussionTools. Are there any other scripts that might be worth integrating directly in MediaWiki? Thoughts would be welcome at Wikipedia talk:Scripts++.
As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy holidays! --DannyS712 (talk) 00:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Can I request you lift the 'soft delete' as I addressed the original request for deletion by @DoubleGrazing and left comments for them but did not hear back. I have made many changes to the article since the original mark for deletion and believe it is very much inline with other articles such as Blackadder (whisky bottler) Adelphi Whisky and more. I believe the article is worth inclusion. (Simonspier82 (talk) 02:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC))
User:Bradv/Scripts/Notepad.js
Great script and really like the preview feature. However, I have a little suggestion about Recent Notes tab; as I use the script globally, is it possible to see notes from all wikis at the same place? If not maybe just from some big wikis. Thanks ‐‐1997kB (talk) 12:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- 1997kB, the data for the notepad is stored in mw.user.options, which is only accessible for the current wiki. Retrieving the options data from another wiki requires logging into it first, so to do this by script would require at least 2 additional server requests for each of the 700 wikis. So no, this would not be feasible. – bradv🍁 15:56, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Potentially problematic user?
Hi BradV, not sure if this is an issue but the user TIggI140 seems to be making some potentially POV pushing problematic edits. They've received three warnings, not sure what the appropriate step would be to take for this. Aza24 (talk) 05:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- If you don't want to help, fine, just tell me. You're the 3rd admin I've reached out to about something who has either ignored me, or said that they "don't have time to help". Frankly, the later is preferable. Aza24 (talk) 00:37, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Aza24, have you tried discussing this with TIggI140? That should be your first recourse. – bradv🍁 17:11, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't earlier since the user had been warned four times but I have done so now, thanks. Thank you also for courteously ignoring my rather rude comment – apologies for that, it was an unfair thing to say. I'll keep you updated on this situation. Best - Aza24 (talk) 00:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Brad, the user in question seems to have ignored my comment on their talk page, been warned a fourth time by another user, and continued making unsourced problematic edits about ethnicities. Aza24 (talk) 08:34, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't earlier since the user had been warned four times but I have done so now, thanks. Thank you also for courteously ignoring my rather rude comment – apologies for that, it was an unfair thing to say. I'll keep you updated on this situation. Best - Aza24 (talk) 00:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Aza24, have you tried discussing this with TIggI140? That should be your first recourse. – bradv🍁 17:11, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Endless contributions script
For anyone who happens to be watching this page, I wrote a new script: User:Bradv/endlesscontribs. Let me know what you think. – bradv🍁 23:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Bradv, why would someone be watching this page? Is something exciting going to happen? Natureium (talk) 23:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Natureium, if you were watching this page waiting for something exciting to happen, this is it. Try the script. – bradv🍁 00:38, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh my god, this is something I've been waiting for so long! Thank you so much! — Yours, Berrely (🎅 Ho ho ho! 🎄) • Talk∕Contribs 14:36, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Natureium, if you were watching this page waiting for something exciting to happen, this is it. Try the script. – bradv🍁 00:38, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Need help on Draft:Fethi Meskini
Hello Bradv. Thank you for taking the time to review the submission of Draft:Fethi Meskini. I need your assistance to fix the issues you found.
Your comment was "In order to establish notability, we need sources that are independent of the subject, not things written by the subject. Where are the sources for the biographical details"
As Fethi Meskini is an author - and since the article speaks extensively about his philosophical theories - it is legitimate to use his own books as source for most of the material in the article. As for the biographical details, I am not sure which you think lack sources, but I'm eager to bring them to the best of my abilities.
WajdMeskini (talk) 11:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC) Wajd Meskini
- WajdMeskini, the subject's own books cannot establish notability, as notability is determined by coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject (see Notability requires verification). Since Meskini is an author, those independent sources need to prove that the subject meets the criteria listed at WP:NAUTHOR. – bradv🍁 16:19, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Replied : So what you mean is that I need third-party sources speaking about the author's books ? WajdMeskini (talk) 19:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC) Wajd Meskini
- WajdMeskini, you need third-party sources that talk about the subject of the article. News articles, magazine articles, books about him, etc. – bradv🍁 18:19, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Arbitration elections
Congratulations on being re-elected! Many of us are looking forward to positive changes from our newly assembled Mighty Morphin Power Arbs! Atsme 💬 📧 19:35, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Atsme. I'm grateful for the opportunity to continue in this role, and I'm excited about our fresh batch of
victimsrecruits too. All the best, – bradv🍁 22:04, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas & Let's See Out the Year!
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021! | |
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! In this toughest of years, thank you for continuing to care about others - both in your editing, your words, and just in your being. Roll on 2021 and I'll see you there! Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
Happy holidays
This year, many people had COVID to fear,
The holidays are getting near,
One thing that will be clear,
We will still have holiday cheer,
Happy holidays and happy new year!!
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Merry Christmas
File:Christmas tree in field.jpg | Merry Christmas Bradv |
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Happy Holidays!
Hello Bradv: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Merry Christmas! Asartea Talk Contribs! 16:07, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- And congratulations on being elected to ArbCom!
Red House Eviction Defense
Hi Bradv, Please help me understand what has taken place with the above-mentioned article. The user, GorillaWarfare, has continued to revert and remove accurate changes (although I agree that I got a little inflammatory after her initial reversion, and tried to keep it more neutral thereafter). After I warned her that she was going to violate the three-reversion rule, another mysterious username appears and reverts the changes. This article presents misleading information without factual basis. After attempting to add factual history and rewrite misleading information to be more accurately and wholistically stated, my changes (along with many others) were undone by the users who are guarding the post and attempting to use it to skew public perception of the incident in their favor. How, after the reversion by the anynomous new user, it has been locked. Is there a way to escalate this for review by a neutral third-party? Thanks and Happy Holidays, 09gregco 09gregco (talk) 20:51, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- 09gregco, I recommend discussing your proposed changes, with sources, on the article talk page. – bradv🍁 20:58, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Walter Görlitz
Walter Görlitz seems to be edit warring again, this time on the Lauren Daigle page. He made some constructive edits but many of his reverts are unecessary. Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:31, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Proxima Centauri: and the other editor who is edit warring socked to try to tip the balance of discussion. At least I am discussing, which your stalking should also show. Merry Christmas to both, and to both a happy new year. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:43, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy 2021!
Hey Bradv! I'm glad I've gotten to know you in 2020, but I'm glad that crazy year is over. Let's hope 2021 is better. Anyway, Happy 2021! Dswitz10734 (talk) 14:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2021
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Can I take an attempt to create a draft on this ?
Hello There Bradv, Hope you are doing good, I would like to create a draft on Vivek Verma as I have came across new sources which seems like it may can pass GNG due to his previous work line and keeping all the sources in mind, Since The second AFD was closed by you I would like to ask your help in this, out of all the mixed sources available I am providing a few links along with the new ones which seems reliable to me, rest you can decide clearly weather i can create the draft to it or not. Thanks. New Links
- New Indian Express
- Times of India
- Rolling Stone (although this is a mere mention.
- TOI again
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Old ones
- The Diplomat
- The Hindu
- The Diplomat
- Deccan Chronicle This doesnt have a byline but seemsokay
wanted to just check with you incase it passes the line of gng as have evidence of working in Bollywood movies. Thanks Shubhi89 (talk) 06:20, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 20
News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (January 2021).
Hello everyone and welcome to the 20th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:
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- As a reminder, the legacy javascript globals (like accessing
wgPageName
without first assigning it a value or usingmw.config.get('wgPageName')
instead) are deprecated. If your user scripts make use of the globals, please update them to usemw.config
instead. Some global interface editors or local interface administrators may edit your user script to make these changes if you don't. See phab:T72470 for more.
- For people interested in creating user scripts or gadgets using TypeScript, a types-mediawiki package (GitHub, NPM) is now available that provides type definitions for the MediaWiki JS interface and the API.
- A GitHub organization has been created for hosting codebases of gadgets. Users who maintain gadgets using GitHub may choose to move their repos to this organization, to ensure continued maintenance by others even if the original maintainer becomes inactive.
- A script to ease reviewing Good Article nominations
- A script to help manage Z number templates
- ...and many more, all available at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests
As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, including nominating a featured script, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy new year! --DannyS712 (talk) 01:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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