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Arthur Kemp

I've reverted you. The article doesn't say he was the leader, and it appears you didn't do a search to see what could be found. I found a 2016 source. Doug Weller talk 16:07, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article did specifically say he was "stepping up as leader." It was therefore wrong. Also, the fact that they might or might not have a bank transfer to an account proves nothing. This is more likely a payment for books, and still is no

evidence that he was a "leader" of the NA. BookyDong (talk) 18:33, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We attribute the SPLC when they make such statements. The use of the SPLC has been discussed many times, with the decision always that we can use it so long as we attribute it. It's use in Kemp's article seems to meet all our requirements. Doug Weller talk 18:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So it cam be used even if -- as is the case here -- it is obviously factually incorrect and unproven? Sounds strange to me. BookyDong (talk) 18:59, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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June 2018

Your recent editing history at Arthur Kemp shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Doug Weller talk 12:15, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You don't get it: you can't say "a claim that turned out to be incorrect" unless that's in the sources. This is not the place to insert your own commentary. Drmies (talk) 13:14, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]