User talk:Arkon/archive6
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[edit]Dingsuntil (talk) 00:39, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
WP:Sockpuppeting notice
[edit]Alerting editors on a talk page of WP:Sockpuppetry that has been going on at the article of that talk page, as I did here, is perfectly acceptable. And, unless, you give me a valid reason for not alerting editors of the article to that matter, I will re-alert them of it...without pointing a finger at that editor who is yet to be WP:Blocked.
If you reply to me on this matter, it should be here at your talk page to keep the discussion centralized; see WP:TALKCENT. Flyer22 (talk) 23:19, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's poisoning the well at best, and will only serve to inflame the situation. You specifically called out another editor, without evidence, without posting a SPI for that editor (unless I've missed that). Don't repost. Arkon (talk) 23:28, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- This bit (an alert without calling out that other editor) is not poisoning the well; like I stated, it is letting editors know of a problematic editor who revisits that article to WP:Sockpuppet. The editors of that article should absolutely be notified of this, and notifying them of this at the article's talk page is acceptable. Flyer22 (talk) 23:33, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Besides that editor, I am certain that other WP:Sockpuppeting has been going on at that article. And editors should be alert to looking out for that mess, but I decided to mainly focus on the known WP:Sockpuppeteer. Flyer22 (talk) 23:36, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- The reposted version is fine, the original was not. That's the only point I wanted to make. Arkon (talk) 23:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Arbitration motion regarding Arbitration enforcement
[edit]By motion, the Arbitration Committee authorises the following injunction effective immediately:
- The case is to be opened forthwith and entitled "Arbitration enforcement";
- During the case, no user who has commented about this matter on the AN page, the AE page or the Case Requests page, may take or initiate administrative action involving any of the named parties in this case.
- Reports of alleged breaches of (2) are to be made only by email to the Arbitration Committee, via the main contact page.
You are receiving this message because you have commented about this matter on the AN page, the AE page or the Case Requests page
and are therefore restricted as specified in (2). For the Arbitration Committee, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:30, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Change from announced time table for the Arbitration enforcement arbitration case
[edit]You are receiving this message either because you are a party to the Arbitration enforcement arbitration case, because you have commented in the case request, or the AN or AE discussions leading to this arbitration case, or because you have specifically opted in to receiving these messages. Unless you are a party to this arbitration case, you may opt out of receiving further messages at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement/Notification list. The drafters of the Arbitration enforcement arbitration case have published a revised timetable for the case, which changes what you may have been told when the case was opened. The dates have been revised as follows: the Evidence phase will close 5 July 2015, one week earlier than originally scheduled; the Workshop phase will close 26 July 2015, one week later than originally scheduled; the Proposed decision is scheduled to be posted 9 August 2015, two weeks later than originally scheduled. Thank you. On behalf of the arbitration clerks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:58, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Motion passed in AE arbitration case granting amnesty and rescinding previous temporary injunction
[edit]This message is sent at 12:53, 5 July 2015 (UTC) by Arbitration Clerk User:Penwhale via MassMessage on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. You are receiving this message because your name appears on this list and have not elected to opt-out of being notified of development in the arbitration case.
On 5 July, 2015, the following motion was passed and enacted:
- Paragraphs (2) and (3) of the Arbitration Committee's motion of 29 June 2015 about the injunction and reporting breaches of it are hereby rescinded.
- The Arbitration Committee hereby declares an amnesty covering:
- the original comment made by Eric Corbett on 25 June 2015 and any subsequent related comments made by him up until the enactment of this current motion; and
- the subsequent actions related to that comment taken by Black Kite, GorillaWarfare, Reaper Eternal, Kevin Gorman, GregJackP and RGloucester before this case was opened on 29 June 2015.
AN/I
[edit]Keep up the good fight my friend. Especially against that pathetic Wikidemon loser. Seriously, who dedicates their useless life to defending a terrorist.171.221.247.94 (talk) 17:34, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
You have edit warred across two articles now, [1][2][3][4][5] one flagged as a potential BLP issue. This continued after you read my caution on the subject.[6] The dismissive tone in the edit summary suggests that you will not engage in productive discussion on the matter. Under the circumstance I am preparing an AN/I report in hopes of restoring some stability. If before I hit save on the AN/I report you either self-revert or assure me that you will refrain from edit warring once I or other editors restore the status quo versions, and discuss any proposed change civilly on the talk page, we can resume normal collaborative editing. Otherwise, please consider this a notice that the matter is being discussed on AN/I. Thanks, - Wikidemon (talk) 23:48, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hit save, cause unless you present a better argument on the Ayers article, it will be reverted to the accurate version at some point. For the WU article, everything you just said about the Ayers article applies to your actions, also, well sourced. Well sourced. Well sourced, and supported. Should I say well sourced and supported by the body again? Arkon (talk) 23:52, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Hillary Clinton email controversy is covered by discretionary sanctions under WP:ARBAP2
[edit]Please carefully read this information:
The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.
Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.Alerting you of the sanctions in view of a complaint about your edits at WP:AN3 (permanent link). Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:32, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:09, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
HC restore
[edit]Thanks for your restore on the HC NDA material. BTW, the exact same issue is at hand on the Hillary Clinton email controversy article, you may wish to weigh in on the discussion there as well. Gaijin42 (talk) 19:55, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
FYI
[edit]Edit-warring with admins on the admin noticeboards is not the smartest thing ever done on Wikipedia. You might want to stop before the WP:BOOMERANG flies back. Guy (Help!) 23:56, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- FYI you can fuck right off, trying to close a discussion about BLP violations with yet another, not to mention a personal attack, is disgusting. The boomerang is certainly flying, good luck. Arkon (talk) 00:10, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- That kind of language is really not necessary and isn't going to help the situation. Please dial it back a bit. This isn't a threat or an attempt to provoke a fight--just a simple request to use less aggressive language. Jonathunder (talk) 01:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hey hey, sorry not familiar with you, but the language is on purpose. Have a good one! Arkon (talk) 01:13, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- Seriously, Arkon, you're violating the civility policy, and no amount of "have a good one!" in the same breath will undo that. Stating that your uncivil language is "on purpose" confirms that you need to do some thinking about expectations of community members. Or leave. Tony (talk) 07:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- But telling people to leave is civil? People talk way too much on this site. There's no filter. 87.228.171.124 (talk) 08:56, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- Tony1, I don't really care for your advice. You are certainly welcome to leave this page. Arkon (talk) 14:15, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- Seriously, Arkon, you're violating the civility policy, and no amount of "have a good one!" in the same breath will undo that. Stating that your uncivil language is "on purpose" confirms that you need to do some thinking about expectations of community members. Or leave. Tony (talk) 07:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hey hey, sorry not familiar with you, but the language is on purpose. Have a good one! Arkon (talk) 01:13, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- That kind of language is really not necessary and isn't going to help the situation. Please dial it back a bit. This isn't a threat or an attempt to provoke a fight--just a simple request to use less aggressive language. Jonathunder (talk) 01:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Gamaliel and others arbitration case opened
[edit]You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others. The scope of this case is Gamaliel's recent actions (both administrative and otherwise), especially related to the Signpost April Fools Joke. The case will also examine the conduct of other editors who are directly involved in disputes with Gamaliel. The case is strictly intended to examine user conduct and alleged policy violations and will not examine broader topic areas. The clerks have been instructed to remove evidence which does not meet these requirements. The drafters will add additional parties as required during the case. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Evidence.
Please add your evidence by May 2, 2016, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. This notification is being sent to those listed on the case notification list. If you do not wish to recieve further notifications, you are welcome to opt-out on that page. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:39, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Added as an involved party in the Gamaliel and others arbitration case
[edit]Hello Arkon, following a decision by the drafting arbitrators you have been added as an involved party in this case due to your involvement in the dispute. We decided to do this a couple days ago, however I haven't had a chance to add you until now. This also means that you're permitted to include up to 1000 words and 100 diffs in your evidence. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:55, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure what the committee would like to hear from me about. I've added a brief statement, hopefully it will become clear what they are looking for. Arkon (talk) 12:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- I've added a supporting link to your section, please revert if you have any objection. NE Ent 13:29, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Totally works, thank you! Arkon (talk) 13:35, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- I've added a supporting link to your section, please revert if you have any objection. NE Ent 13:29, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others date extensions
[edit]The evidence and workshop closing dates and the proposed-decision date have been extended to 6, 13 and 23 May, respectively. For the Arbitration Committee, Miniapolis 17:40, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Proposed decision posted
[edit]Hi Arkon, in the open Gamaliel and others arbitration case, a remedy or finding of fact has been proposed which relates to you. Please review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Miniapolis 13:37, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
An arbitration case regarding Gamaliel and others has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
- Gamaliel is admonished for multiple breaches of Wikipedia policies and guidelines including for disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, removing a speedy deletion notice from a page he created, casting aspersions, and perpetuating what other editors believed to be a BLP violation.
- DHeyward and Gamaliel are indefinitely prohibited from interacting with or discussing each other anywhere on Wikipedia, subject to the usual exemptions.
- DHeyward (talk · contribs) is admonished for engaging in incivility and personal attacks on other editors. He is reminded that all editors are expected to engage respectfully and civilly with each other and to avoid making personal attacks.
- For conduct which was below the standard expected of an administrator — namely making an incivil and inflammatory close summary on ANI, in which he perpetuated the perceived BLP violation and failed to adequately summarise the discussion — JzG is admonished.
- Arkon is reminded that edit warring, even if exempt, is rarely an alternative to discussing the dispute with involved editors, as suggested at WP:CLOSECHALLENGE.
- The community is encouraged to hold an RfC to supplement the existing WP:BLPTALK policy by developing further guidance on managing disputes about material involving living persons when that material appears outside of article space and is not directly related to article-content decisions.
For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others closed
- And let that be a lesson to you! Even if you're right, you're wrong.--v/r - TP 03:48, 4 June 2016 (UTC)