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December 2009

Speedy deletion declined: Rev. Dr. Geoffrey Black

Hello ArcAngel, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Rev. Dr. Geoffrey Black - a page you tagged - because: President of a church is an assertion of importance. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Ϣere SpielChequers 13:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Gary Burden

Hello ArcAngel. I recreated this article, as I consider the subject notable and the information useful for our project. The first version was deleted as {{db-A7}}, and I restored the copyvio version without careful checking of his personal website. Actually I've searched for independent sources and forgot to check it - my mistake. You recognized the problem and you also correctly notified me about it. Thank you. If you still can't find 'any sign of notability', take the article to AfD. Have a nice day. --Vejvančický (talk) 08:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

AfD of Telepath (band)

You submitted my article Telepath band for deletion as you have found no significant third party coverage of their music. Relix and Glide magazine as well as the many local newspapers that they have been featured in should indicate their notability. Andygregryan (talk) 00:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

In my search I didn't see anything that indicated any major coverage. ArcAngel (talk) 01:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

A review of the archives of any of the media listed earlier will yield significant results. This ensemble follows all Wikipedia criteria of notability. Andygregryan (talk) 01:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree, but we'll see what the community says on the AfD. ArcAngel (talk) 01:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Your message

Please read the blue box on the top of my user talk page as well as its edit notice. Particularly the fourth line of text.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:32, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Cristys-logo.gif

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Thanks for uploading File:Cristys-logo.gif. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 04:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

No, it isn't, not really. Technically, per the definition above - it would be perceived as such, but currently that logo is sitting on an article that is in my userspace that I intended to transclude at some point. ArcAngel (talk) 04:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

No, actually, yes it is. Non-free images are allowed only in the "article space" ("used in any articles on Wikipedia"). They're not allowed in other "spaces" (such as templates, categories, user, etc.). However, there is a 7 day "grace period" for the image to get placed into the article space. If it's deleted before the article is ready, it can be restored by any admin/sysop - just place a note on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard if that happens. Skier Dude (talk) 05:05, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Since I haven't worked with files all that much, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for letting me know. This tells me I better hurry up and finish the article. :) ArcAngel (talk) 01:32, 8 December, 2009 (UTC)

Your suggestion of deletion of the Adorno Records page

Hi ArcAngel

I couldn't see how to add this to the community page to discuss this (can you advise), so hopefully you will see this here (I'm new at adding content).

I wrote the article discussed and would like to justify why I don't think it deserves deletion.

the articles I cited about releases on the label (through archival at thefreelibrary.com) were originally published in the Daily Record (which does not maintain its own online archive after a set amount of time). The Daily Record is the largest national newspaper in Scotland with a readership in excess of 2 million (a third of the population of Scotland). I don't understand why this isn't considered a good and primary source considering the permalink available at thefreelibrary.com. Further, the articles cited specifically were about releases on the label (and the first included quotes from the label);
the CDs and records themselves - that they actually exist and sold well (every release has been 1,000+ which in Scottish indie terms is large);
lots of national radio coverage (in addition to airplay of songs) including interviews with the label on BBC Radio One, XFM, Radio Scotland etc. of which MP3s exist;
section about the label in the report for Government by Scottish Enterprise: Mapping the Music Industry in Scotland, Williamson, J., Cloonan, M. and Frith, S.;
section about the label in the most recent version of the book: The Great Scots Musicography - the complete guide to Scotland's music makers, M. C. Strong;
lots of newspaper / magazine / media articles in written press (albeit unfortunately not internet archived);
listings in online retailers such as Amazon and HMV;
there are several other directly comparable Scottish record labels with Wikipedia pages that haven't been as successful as Adorno Records (smaller catalogue / less sales / less impact), also with less / without cited sources, and with less content than I provided in this page;
the label is highly regarded in both the underground scene and industry in Scotland and I think it is therefore notable enough to warrant inclusion on Wikipedia;
as the label is on hiatus since the end of 2005, there hasn't been a lot written about it since then and this goes against it in Google searches, but doesn't make it any less valid from an encyclopedic historical POV surely.

In all I don't really understand why this page isn't valid. I didn't understand Wikipedia to discriminate against things which exist mainly in an offline world but it appears to be the case through implication (the record label has only ever released physical releases).

I would welcome responses and hope that this article isn't deleted (if you tell me what needs amending and with what I will do that, surely a better alternative).

Pr78 (talk) 14:09, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I have responded to this at the AfD page. ArcAngel (talk) 20:17, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Ret.Prof (talk) 14:08, 17 December 2009 (UTC) is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Xmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

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On page TopBT

Hi,

I am Yin Huai, the co-creator of web page http://topbt.cse.ohio-state.edu/index.html. TopBT is a research project of the HPCS lab and my advisor is Prof Xiaodong Zhang (http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~zhang/). Our lab agree to publish the content about TopBT on Wikipedia. You can contact Prof Xiaodong Zhang to verify me and our agreement. Would you please remove the tag of Copyright violations. Thank you very much! Yhuai (talk) 05:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

No, they will not be removed as the article currently as written does violate Wikipedia's copyright policy. If you can re-write the article in your own words, the copyvio would no longer apply. Otherwise it is in the hands of an administrator so they can determine what to do. ArcAngel (talk) 05:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I posted some comments on the talk page (Talk:TopBT). It may still not be notable, but the steps to fix copyvio are outlined. tedder (talk) 08:30, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I have wrote a email to '"permissions-en@wikimedia.org" to declare our lab's agreement of publishing the contents on "http://topbt.cse.ohio-state.edu/index.html" on Wikipedia. May I ask whether it still is a copyvio? Moreover, the TopBT's page has been deleted. I am sorry I can see tedder's comments. Thanks. Yhuai (talk) 15:11, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

heh

Fun exchange. I agree, it smells weird for an admin to bring things up like that. It's even funnier because I asked a non-admin about it first. I'd rather see it done right than to do it myself. tedder (talk) 03:27, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Yea, I can't fault ya for that brand of reasoning. ;) ArcAngel (talk) 03:52, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Bottom-posting

Thanks. I don't know why I did that. Kyle Barbour 02:09, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Eh - no harm no foul. :) ArcAngel (talk) 02:12, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

WikiThanks

Thank you for helping sort the WGB fiasco, and attempting to reason with him. Happy holidays, Shubinator (talk) 15:38, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

You're quite welcome Shub. I felt it was unfair to you for him to have half a page of diatribe on YOUR RfA for goodness sake. :) Merry Christmas! ArcAngel (talk) 15:53, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for participating in my RfA, even if you don't feel able to support. I won't try to change your mind because healthy disagreement is what the wiki thrives on. I just wanted to say no hard feelings! All the best, HJMitchell You rang? 23:41, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for not taking it personally. If your RfA fails, I would be willing to support your next one given more experience in the areas I indicated. ArcAngel (talk) 00:24, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou, besides, as useful as adminship would be, even I would be suspicious if it was unanimous! HJMitchell You rang? 13:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice

Thank you for chirping in on ANI. But I think closure is too early because now we only have your opinion and nobody elses.

I will stop fixing the article that is redirected for now but please answer the question...

Question: I think 3 articles are best merged because they are minor events (major if you are in jail but minor in comparison with Lee Harvey Oswald and John Hinckley). By having a sample merged article, people can see that it is an ok article. However, you are deciding for yourself that the article is not to be created and is redirected. Why can't the whole community decide, not just you. I am not calling you names or saying your intent is bad, but what is the problem with having one article describing the 3 assassination scares? JB50000 (talk) 03:45, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I left a reply on your talk page, it is not just me deciding. If you have an issue with the redirect, contact Hunter Kahn as he was the one who placed the re-direct. ArcAngel (talk) 03:47, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Hunter Kahn is trying to protect his article from merge by blanking out the combined article. Please do not quote him as an uninvolved editor. That's like if I wrote an article on the ArcAngel Bus Company article and the AAA Bus Company article but someone wrote a merged Arcangel Russia mass transit article. I should not blank out or redirect Arcangel Russia mass transit just because I want my two bus company articles to remain. JB50000 (talk) 03:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

I am aware of 3RR. thus my wording "I give up" -- and thanks for the revert. Any thoughts on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seb az86556 (talk • contribs) 03:48, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I have commented on that AFD. ArcAngel (talk) 03:54, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Saw it. and sorry for not signing... you know how it goes :) Cheers! Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 03:55, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Collapsing discussions

Just a note that, when you collapse an ANI discussion (or other discussions on pages handled by archiving bots), you should leave the section header outside the collapse. Otherwise the bot will mess up because they think the {{hat}} is in the previous section and would not archive it. Timotheus Canens (talk) 04:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for that bit of info. ArcAngel (talk) 04:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: Bowling

No problem. - Rjd0060 (talk) 19:34, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

User:IEauthor/test

I think CSD G11 and an SPI is rather bitey. AGF suggests this is one or two newcomers trying their best who might need some help and advice. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Rhomb (talk) 18:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

No, I really have no other evidence, but the sandbox article clearly (at least to me) reads like an ad/promotion. ArcAngel (talk) 18:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

My RFA →→→

Dear ArcAngel, here is a little note to say thank you for your kind vote on my request for adminship which failed with a final result of (40/19/12).

Thank you for your participation in my RfA which I withdrew after concerns of my knowledge of policy. Special thanks are owed to Coffee, who defended me throughout and whom I cannot thank enough for the nomination; to 2over0 for being supportive and helpful; to A Stop at Willoughby for the thorough, thoughtful and articulate support rationale; to IP69.226.103.13 for maintaining composure and for a pleasant interaction on my talk page and, last but not least, to Juliancolton who was good enough to close the RfA at my request and, frankly, because an editor whom I respect so much found the time to support me! If the need for more admins at the main page is still apparent in a few months, I may try again. Thank you all for a relatively drama-free RfA and for providing me with much material from which to learn from my mistakes. You're all welcome to drop by my talk page any time. God save the ~~Queen~~ Wiki! HJMitchell You rang? 21:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, ArcAngel. You have new messages at Nancy's talk page.
Message added 08:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Nancy ^talk 08:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Sock puppetry

Arc Angel,

Read sock puppetry "accusation"--since usernames (HCIE.author and IE.author) are similar can you delete the first one (IE.author)? The reason I created a second username was because my password under IE.author had personal information. Also, instructions say easier to create a second username than delete one. I would like to resolve this so we can move forward on article. HCIE.author (talk) 17:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I cannot delete accounts. It would actually be better if you created another name which is not affiliated in any way with the article you are attempting to create as it could be seen as self promotion. Speaking of the article, if it could be re-written so that is reads less like an advertisement, and more encyclopedic, that would make it better and look less like advertising. ArcAngel (talk) 18:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Ships of Republic of China

CfD nomination of Category:Active ships of Republic of China

CfD nomination of Category:Naval ships of Republic of China

CfD nomination of Category:Patrol vessels of Republic of China

CfD nomination of Category:Active naval ships of Republic of China