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Hi AngussWOOF. Because our progress on the "National drinks" page was somewhat stalled I sought the assistance of dispute resolution: {{drn-notice}}. Hopefully you're willing to particpate in the process and with the help of other editors we can move forward. Thanks, BrieDeChevre (talk) 14:31, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello AngusWOOF. User: Robert McClenon closed the case on the dispute resolution noticeboard and so please see his comments. As I interpret what he said, we should move the draft into article space and then on the article's talk page copy and paste our discussion that we've had on the draft's talk page and see then what editors think about a "delete discussion". My understanding is that there isn't an issue with a "redirect" because there is no "National drinks" page. Do you agree with my interpretation? If not, what do you think our next step should be? Thanks. BrieDeChevre (talk) 23:40, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi AngusWOOF. I'm super duper excited that the page has gone live, but I think that the page should be called "National drinks", with an "s", not "National drink". The page listing national liquors in entitled "List of national liquors", not "List of national liquor". A companion page to the drinks pages is called "National dish", but I think a better name for that page would be "National dishes". In my mind, to be consistent we could have "National dishes", "National drinks", and "National liquors". Do you have control over the names of those other pages? Thanks, and I'll clean up and add the links as you suggested from other articles after your response to the issue I just brought up. BrieDeChevre (talk) 18:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.176.54 (talk)
Thanks Angus. Hey, I told one of my students that you were something of an expert on K-pop, J-pop, all other pop, etc. and that they might ask you some questions about sourcing for those topics--let's see if I remember their name correctly: Historynerd52. I hope you don't mind; you have a ton of experience in that area, certainly compared with me. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 21:03, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Polyarch (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:40, 13 June 2019 (UTC) Thank you for reading the draft! I understand that the page probably didn't have enough references, i think i submitted it too early. I'll continue to work on it!
Draft:Poitiers Campus, Sciences Po
Hello AngusWOOF. Please revert the name change of the page. This is not a US university. The European norm is to place the campus name, followed by the university name. For example Royal Holloway, University of London or Balliol College, Oxford.
In France, there are numerous IEP (Instituts d'études politiques). The Paris one, called Sciences Po has six decentralised campuses, including the one in Poitiers. The other IEP are often called Sciences Po Lille, or Sciences Po Grenoble for example. Calling the Poitiers Campus, Sciences Po Poitiers will lead to confusion over its relationship with Sciences Po.
Thanks for the other edits, by the way.
Update: Just noticed you've changed it back. Thank you very much!
Hi AngusWOOF, I have included further sources and information to indicate the independent notability of the World Cheese Awards from the Guild of Fine Food as requested. Please can you let me know if my updates have been sufficient. Many thanks, Emma1119995 (talk) 18:09, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
I created a draft for Serial Box and it was looked at by you 7 days ago, but was not approved or declined. I would love to hear any feedback so that I may get my article approved and published. Could you take another look whenever you get a second? I really appreciate your assistance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Serial_BoxSthreadgill (talk) 16:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Sthreadgill, I see that it's been resubmitted, so any AFC reviewer should be able to look at it. I would try to get rid of any advertising tone as that would likely put off reviewers from approving. Also if you can identify WP:THREE key articles that describe the service, that would be helpful. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:53, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi AngusWOOF,
Thank you so much for your help! Please see my WP:THREE sources below. Let me know if this helps!
You need links to the actual episodes on youtube or a schedule to show title and episodes are being logged. If you can find the season in Media Arts Database, that would be helpful too. Also more sources as to how the ONA series is notable. Same with official website. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Turbo Achilles, I filled in the episode links from the YouTube websites. The videos themselves are viewable only in Japan though but at least those confirm the titles and the release dates. I'll go ahead and approve the version and create redirects for the episode season. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:26, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Attack on titan
I see your a anime fan. I am not saying any spoilers. Have you seen Attack on titan? Do you prefer English dub or sub or both?Manabimasu (talk) 19:11, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
I fully under stand your reason for declining the wiki I submitted but I'm asking you to reconsider. I wish there was more info about this girl out there sadly she doesn't make media appearances so I can't link anymore sources. I can chanced the wording to that it's claimed and not confirmed information by the person. This wiki was only meant as a key stone to build off of, I'll see what changes I can make to fit better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juggernaut1234 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
I've just added the ratings but I'm struggling to get it placed properly on the article. This is a very significant album as explained in the notes and in the article itself. I decided to put these through the draft rather than straight into the article space to allow other users to strengthen this before finally accepting it to the article space. I've worked very hard on this. The Key DraftMusic Editor 2017 (talk) 17:58, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Music Editor 2017, that's fine. Having a reception section with detailed critics commentary will help. Also sections on the development and production of the album to flesh out its importance. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
AngusWOOF, Thank you!! Can you have a look please, I'm struggling to place the ratings properly on the article!! Hopefully it should be strong enough now for the move to the article space and thank you so much!! :) Music Editor 2017 (talk) 18:03, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
AngusWOOF Thanks again Angus, I'm not as familiar with the coding for the review sections as much but worked really hard on this. I've added some key references now though again, it's the placing of them if you want to kindly amend to make sure it's better placed/written and suited but hopefully, finally this can be moved to the article space as I have worked very hard on this since January. Again, I wanted to put it through the draft rather than straight to the article space as it allows other users to contribute and strengthen it before we move it there however please kindly check it now and if you need to neaten it up before moving to the article space, kindly feel free and thank you also for helping and contributing to this. As I say Wikipedia is a collaborative process so I thank you kindly for neatening it up before moving it to the article space and thank you!! :) Music Editor 2017 (talk) 18:18, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Your draft of a BitcoinSV article
Hi, and thank you for your effort at creating the draft. I have got a list of WP:IRS that may be of use for the article. Hope you do not mind me editing the draft to replace the claims citing unreliable sources by the claims confirmed by WP:IRS and make some other improvements. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 18:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
You kindly left me some notes explaining why my proposed page had been rejected; could you please give me some advice on how to improve the context of its notability and improve the reliable sources, as I do not fully understand.
Many Thanks. MerchantOfLight (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Hey Angus, I fixed the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Skaa
The Artist Skaa had a chart position on the Billboard Top Heatseeker Albums chart at #20 out of 25 ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Heatseekers and is also published in their current news stand issue of Billboard magazine for the Chart position.
I also included more article source references.
Thanks for helping me improve the article if there is anything else I can do to make it better please let me know.
Why are external sources more reliable than the artist's social media? And doesn't waiting for the reception and postponing the article going live defeat the whole purpose of people checking Wikipedia to find out about updates on the song? Genuinely just asking, I'm not properly a wikipedia pro. Artursilva0220 (talk) 16:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Regarding your histmerge tag, wouldn't this be a case of parallel histories? I had no idea this user was working on a draft because I had never heard of them. Personally I don't really care if the draft is histmerged into the article, but in the past (in some cases) it's been deemed unnecessary if the only user who worked on the other article was the same user who copied their own content into an existing article. Or at least, admins have deemed that to be the case in several previous instances. Ss11217:36, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
They worked on the draft one first, then decided to delete the information from the draft and put it on the main article as (song). Artursilva0220 indeed fixed up the references per my feedback on the AFC draft and this thread. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I understand what happened, but several minutes before, I started the page as a stub. Artursilva0220 then copied their content over my basic layout, so in some cases this is determined to be parallel histories (however, in this case, my one edit after Lichtt's redirect might not be considered much of a substantial history). Ss11217:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi. take a look at the edit history of author's other books Cloud Boy (page as created [1], Pablo's Inferno (page when created [2]), and at author Rhode Montijo's page when first created: [3]. It looks to me like this is an author aho self-promotes by author logging in, creates newbie-looking pages for his books, himself, makes some other edits, and disappears. It's fairly harmless, I mean, it's not like he's editing to persuade readers that measles vaccines are dangerous. But I wish I hadn't supported him by taking the time to source the page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:24, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
E.M.Gregory, do you know which accounts he used to create the page? We could tag the pages and accounts with COI if they contributed substantial content to those articles and it appears to be influenced heavily by the author. If Fiona is connected to the author, then she could be tagged for that too. Thanks for digging up those critic's reviews links and analysis. Adding that section will help neutralize it. The TNT can be applied to the characters list as well since it is not sourced. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
At least with Cloud Boy, Coolabahapple added some reviews, but the other comic can be tagged for notability if it doesn't have reliable sources. I can't tell whether those random editors have COI. If the article has detailed critical reviews, some of which could be negative on the material, and if they show up to try to defend or to delete it, then that should surface as potential COI. We can tag those articles as {{advert}} or {{npov}} if it needs fixing. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:58, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
hi AngusWOOF, and E.M.Gregory, i added the two reviews kirkus, and PW to Cloud Boy relatively early in my WP editing when i was a bit literal about notability ie. multiple reviews equals two or more, found two therefore okay, nowadays if i could only find two ("trade") reviews i would still add them but might also add my concerns on the talkpage about technically meeting WP:NBOOK but hoping that another editor could add more (i actually have on my lappie a number of ozzie/nz/british kids book articles that i have half started/not finished as i've only found two tradie reviews for them), with Cloud Boy i see Worldcat shows holdings of 150 libraries, and 160 libraries (for spanish/bi-lingual texts) so it could be deemed reasonably "well known" for a 12year old picture book (actually not unexpected when reviewd by kirkus, and PW), anyway dont have an issue if articles are merged/redirected to author page. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:18, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. My concern is that presence in multiple libraries doesn't really imply notability. WP:BKTS. For example, the Katie Kazoo, Switcheroo series takes a big section at the library here, but isn't enough to get its own article so it redirects to Nancy Krulik. But the Kirkus and Publishers Weekly reviews are indeed helpful towards WP:BKCRITAngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:56, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
yep, i agree, i use library holdings as an indication that if there are lots of libraries that have a book there are probably reviews available, if low holdings than unlikely (but not impossible, confession: if i like a book than dig, dig, dig, "dammit there must be reviews somewhere! aaarrggghhhh! oh well, another gem to lappie's not (yet) wikinotable for an article folder" "groan" says my laptop that has numerous files choking up her hard drive.).Coolabahapple (talk) 17:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
help about page Miss Raja Diva
Hi, thanks for the comments in the page Miss Raja Diva I have added one more news source, kindly review, let me also tell you it is not just an event, it is an annual event for beauty pageant celebrating a fashion culture of womanhood in the state, it has become popular and appreciable. There is no such free collaboration event, this is the first time. So kindly consider, it will be helpfull to the society in spreading knowledge about this annual event.
--Nitinraajsinha (talk) 18:59, 21 June 2019 (UTC) thanks for the comment, I have added the information as suggested, just for your information - this beauty pageant was not sponsored and it was a collaborative event between artists, influencers, designers and photographers by making it as a totally free collaborative event.
--Nitinraajsinha (talk) 15:20, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
Kindly check and consider my article
declined draft - RED MUSIC
Hi AngusWOOF
Regarding my draft for RED MUSIC that you declined: Although you have pointed out that there is a historical association between RED MUSIC and RED Distribution, they are separate entities that serve different business purposes and should be treated separately for wiki purposes. Additionally, RED Distribution is no longer an active entity. RED MUSIC is a newly created record label as of 2017. As the cited Billboard article indicates, RED Distribution's sales team and labels were merged into The Orchard and RED MUSIC was created as a new division of Sony Music.
63.139.228.146, you could rename that article to Red Music as it houses the official website for it, and then Red Distribution would be the former name. There really isn't enough to say about RED Music that isn't already on that article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:12, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello AngusWOOF, you had reviewed my article submission on June 6 for Butch Nash.Draft:Butch_Nash I have sense made revisions and added diverse sources. Kindly requesting you to re-review and approve. As for your question on why he is not mentioned in Minnesota Golden Gophers football, I would love to have my article linked there under the "other notable coaches and players" section and would like to be able to show them this article as a summation of both his career as both an awarded coach and player. Thank you!
I need help with that one article
Hi, AgnusWOOF. I noticed that you declined my article "Fitness (band)," because you said that I needed more verifiable, reliable sources. Could you help me find some better sources so I could publish this article? I am still new to editing Wikepedia, so that would be really nice. Thanks :D
BeatBro (talk) 05:46, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
When I last messaged AldezD about an anonymous user's minor edit to Legends of the Hidden Temple, I also informed that user (AldezD) that I've got a Change.org petition going to get Legends back on the air, since we already got a Double Dare reboot last year. From what I remember, the person operating the DeviantArt Facebook page said that I shouldn't be sharing my petition while watching the roll call live video that was shown on one of my final days on Facebook and Instagram. Of the things that Wikipedia isn't, Wikipedia probably isn't a site to be sharing a Change.org petition. And no, I haven't put the link anywhere here.
Hello AngusWOOF, thank you for taking the time to look at the article submission. "Network Neuroscience" and Neural Networks are actually very different things. Network Neuroscience is a new up-and-coming field of neuroscience that was established fairly recently (late 2000's). The first Network Neuroscience journal only began publishing articles in 2017, and textbooks on the topic have been around only since 2012, with new ones published more recently. While neural networks are generally artificial computing mechanisms based on brain networks used to complete powerful computations, network neuroscience is not a classification system or a learning mechanism. Rather network neuroscience is introspective, using graph theory to gain deeper insights into true neuroscientific questions of how we think, how diseases manifest in the brain, how the brain changes throughout development, etc.
Because it is still relatively new in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it deserves a wikipedia page to educate and disambiguate, even though there are plenty of other areas around the web that provide great explanations for this branch of science. I expect the article to expand rapidly once it is on the radar of scientists in this field.
I hope to find a way to introduce this topic to the wikipedia community!
Pnkchd, you need to add the foundation pieces to show the term is mainstream and distinct from neural networks. You need news articles and journals that use the term exclusively. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:39, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 21:01:22, 26 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Racheleo97
Hi there! Thank you for your comment. I appreciate that the Oppenstein Brothers are covered in passing in the page dedicated to their park. However, don't you think that if a family is relevant enough to have a park named in their honor, they could also have enough relevance to a community to merit a Wikipedia page? The sources I have used are relevant; some of them are from the Kansas City Public Library, and some are shared with the park page. The Oppenstein brothers have done quite a bit of good in Kansas City through their charitable foundation, but their history is largely unknown.
I haven't cited obituaries! I think what you are looking at is the secondary source put together by the Kansas City Public Library's historic documents room.
Racheleo97 (talk)
Review of Soil Science Certification and Licensing
Hello AngusWOOF. Thank you for your review of my draft article, Review of Soil Science Certification and Licensing. I agree that soil science certification is relevant to the Soil Science Society of America article. However, my draft article covers Soil science certification in the US (overseen by the SSSA), soil science licensing in the US (overseen by individual licensing boards for each state that has a licensing program, though tests are administered by the SSSA), and soil science certification in Australia (overseen by Soil Science Australia, which is not affiliated with the SSSA). Therefore, I believe the contents of this article is beyond the scope of the Soil Science Society of America page. In addition, as other countries adopt soil science certification, they too can be added to this Soil Science Certification and Licensing article, and they would also not be affiliated with the Soil Science Society of America. Can you please reconsider your review of this article?
ColbyDigsSoil, thanks for your feedback. I changed up the headers for the draft. Can you put in more references to support each of the sections? Also convert embedded links such as Soil Science Australia into either references or Wikipedia links (if those organizations have articles). AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:10, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
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96.239.77.204, can you work on improving the reception section and find more news sources that review or popularize the show? Cast should be structured like the other musicals articles. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
done. can you please give all the relevant feedback at once, rather than adding new feedback once your previous demands have been met. also please clarify what your expertise in the field of Off-Broadway musicals is?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.77.204 (talk) 00:09, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
In 2017 I tried to make a wikipedia page for Kristen McGuire, a voice actor, script writer and director associated with Funimation. It was deleted because it was deemed that she was not notable enough, but that her work as a script writer and directing was promising. I also received notes about her notability pertaining to how little conventions she had been to and her lack of roles. I have been following her and many other English voice actors for several years on Twitter, and she seems to be doing more work these days. She recently played the lead role of Senko in The Helpful Fox Senko-san and I believe she works as a full time script writer for funimation. She listed her convention schedule recently and it looks like she's traveling all over the US, including Anime NYC, My Hero Con in Florida, and several others. I was wondering if her recent accomplishments would qualify her to have a wikipedia page as she seems to be steadily getting cast in new shows and video games. You can see a list of her work on her website. I think it's been updated pretty recently but it seems like she uses twitter the most. Thank you so much for your help! ^_^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D0czPLeX9w (Not so much an article, but a video produced by Funimation which features Kristen as the script writer and an actor for That Time I Got Reincarnated As a Slime)
Is that sufficient? I couldn't find articles for every single new thing she's done over the last few years but I tried to be thorough. Thank you for your help!
MissyGraham, don't count the cast announcements and convention announcements. Watchmojo is an interview so it's primary source, so can't count that towards notability either. Any of these leftover that focus on McGuire? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:28, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
I am having a really hard time understanding what it takes to count someone as notable in the industry. There are several cast announcements, interviews, and things like that that talk about what she's done in the industry. The cast announcements are coming from various news outlets and shouldn't count as a primary source, and I see cast announcements used as sources all the time on existing wikipedia pages. If they can count for those, why don't they apply here? I've even seen Twitter announcements from the VA used as a source, which would count as a primary source, right? I saw it on Monica Rial's page. A few years ago, you stated McGuire didn't play any lead roles, so she wasn't notable. Now she has played lead roles and several main roles. You said she hasn't traveled to enough conventions outside of texas. Now she has. She's been to LA, NY, Ohio, Washington, North Carolina, and a bunch of other places. She's done all the things you said counted as notable a few years ago. The specific articles you're requiring for McGuire don't seem to exist for most of the voice actors who have Wikipedia pages. There are a lot of interviews and cast announcements, but hardly any third party articles. I see tons of english vas with wikipedia pages that haven't done the things you've listed. Mallorie Rodak doesn't have any articles about her and I don't think she's ever been to a convention, but she has a wikipedia page. I actually looked it up because I wanted to be sure. I looked up Bryn Apprill and she doesn't have any articles that I can find either. Ben Phillips is a voice actor with a wikipedia page and I've never seen him at any cons or any articles about him either. McGuire has been cast in over 170 anime titles, several games, and has either directed or written on 25 different titles, doesn't that count towards notability?
Her lead role is Senko in The Helpful Fox Senko-san, streaming on both Crunchyroll and Funimation. McGuire has also been in movies that have been in theaters, such as Harmony, even though it was as additional voices.
The article you linked to is just an interview with Bryn Appril, which would count as a primary source according to you. You said the Watch Mojo interview with McGuire doesn't count, but this link you gave me is someone talking with Bryn about her voice acting, so it seems a bit contradictory to me. Also it should be noted that Watch Mojo is a non-anime industry as well. I did find something similar to what you posted, which is an interview McGuire did on a program called "Diabetics Doing Things", which would also be non-anime. https://diabeticsdoingthings.com/podcast/episode-028-diabetics-doing-voice-acting-with-kristen-mcguire
MissyGraham, streaming on Crunchyroll/Funimation isn't enough, that would be the equivalent of direct-to-video. If they distributed on Adult Swim, Amazon, Netflix, at the time of first run that would help more. Appril's one is mostly interview, agreed. It could use more sources. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:02, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Kristen plays Tatami Nakagame in My Hero Academia, which plays on Toonami, does that not count?
Tatami and a few other characters are from Ketsubutsu Academy. It's weird that they wouldn't have their school listed in that article because they have Shiketsu listed, and those schools are all in the same episodes because they are both rival schools. It seems that article is incomplete. That arc is actually currently playing on Toonami right now. Regardless, McGuire has provided voice overs for movies, shows airing on Toonami, video games such as Smite, and works in the actual production side of anime. I would think all those things combined would be enough to mark her as notable. Most of the voice actors who have wikipedia pages haven't met the markers you've set forth, especially concerning third party articles or being in shows that air somewhere besides online streaming companies. (Again, Mallorie Rodak and Ben Phillips are great examples of this.)
Creation of The life and opinions of Maf the dog, and of his friend Marilyn Monroe
Hi Angus, thanks for your help last week on creating this new page, I've made further changes taking on your advice - what are your thoughts now?
26/06/19 12:26(GMT)
Clark WestZone, can you expand on the Reception section for the article? Talk about how (critic1) of (newspaper1) wrote that (quote1). Include balanced viewpoints of what they liked and disliked about the experience. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Request on 16:19:54, 7 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Ayushssengar
I have published a biography article on Sunny Shah, a Marathi movie producer. this article got deleted by one of the Wikipedia reviewer by saying that it was violating the norms of the Wikipedia. i need a help in correcting my article and want to know how to improve my referencing.
I just removed promotional content. Do you still think it is promotional. If yes, can you please suggest me which sentance or part is promotional? Thank you for your help in advance. Talking about the page Ved Gupta. Expecting a reply from you. 180.151.239.150 (talk) 06:19, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
180.151.239.150, it is still very promotional. It needs to be rewritten from a neutral point of view. It seems to be about a person who founded a local study center business to prepare kids for college entrance exams. Does it matter how he performed in high school / college? If he is an academic, he needs to meet WP:NACADEMIC, and it is not clear he meets that. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 06:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Request on 12:50:00, 4 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Jaibhagat1
Hi AngusWOOF, you recently reviewed and rejected my Draft:DSECT from being published. Your reason for rejection was:
″This should be summarized or explained in the context of the How to Design Programs textbook. It doesn't need a separate article. This would be like giving each of the 7 Habits its own article.
"Note though that in 7 Habits, some of the concepts are independent enough to have their own article, as they are not strictly tied to the author, but this case is strictly connected to the textbook."
I think I was unclear in the article: the DSECT acronym is my own, but I got the idea from reading about software design in How to Design Programs. Since this is a new idea (that is currently gaining a lot of traction for computational neuroscience software developers), could you give me feedback on what I need to do to ensure this article can be accepted as a standalone article? Cheers!
AngusWOOF, ok, I see. Would two, published articles in peer-reviewed scientific/computer software journals in which DSECT is mentioned and briefly explained be considered enough reliable sources for a wikipedia page? We currently have two papers in review in which DSECT is mentioned. Once published, I could add them to the refs for the page.
Jaibhagat1, that is a start--but "in review" means "not published yet". Also, "we" suggests not just a group of editors but also a conflict of interest. Drmies (talk) 18:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Draft:Burn_Out_(2017_French_film)
It seems hard to find reviews of the film from notable critics and papers who are not french. Maybe some of the french sources are credible, but unfortunately it's not my native language and I'm not familiar with the sites.Thornstrom (talk) 21:28, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Oh okay I’m starting to understand a bit more. Although regarding the “not more blogs and random podcast interviews” I did not realize I was using using random blogs. I’ll go back and double check, but if you have the time or if you could do me a favor and maybe point at which references are blogs, if you time is i noticed that you a lot of other people waiting on replies.
As for the bandcamp i guess that would fall under “notes” or “external links” and not references. I’m still trying to the gist of this. As for podcast they have been around for awhile but okay that makes sense. Also your comment has been one of the most helpful advice I’ve gotten so far. So many thanks User:AngusWOOFHumblemogwai (talk) 03:30, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Sunny Shah
i want to publish this [[18]] article. He is a famous Marathi (regional Indian language), producer. Could you help me in publishing this article? tell me what to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayushssengar (talk • contribs) 16:31, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Draft: Killsquad
Hello there! You declined the article for unreliable sources/references. What we did to address your comments is:
1) Changed one unreliable (Techraptor) for a reliable one (PCGamer). PC Gamer is one of the largest video game sites in the world.
2) Removed the other (COG Connected)
3) As for the third reference, Epic Games, please see our note: Epic Games is not a news site / gaming site, it's the maker of the Unreal Engine, which is extremely popular and reliable, this is a Forbes-listed company, hence it's probably the best reference about our game.
We are the developers of the title, game comes out July 16th, so our intent in creating the page was so people can actually find the info on the title when they browse wikipedia. In fact, someone else (definitely not us) added the mention to this game to our own Wikipedia developer page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novarama).
So if you could approve the page, we'd "link" it from the dev page and add 1-2 images to it (box art, etc.) so we have the type of wikipedia presence that's common for games like this.
We will definitely add sources and reviews as is customary, we just added one for example. But we're concerned reviews will come *after* release (next Tuesday) and we'd like the page to be approved by then precisely so that reviewers can add reviews & data as it emerges online. Is that possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.28.120.22 (talk) 17:03, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
80.28.120.22, I think there's enough preliminary reviews like PC Gamer and RPGFan so I went ahead and put it into mainspace. However, the COI tag will still be there until other editors have added more neutral reviews of the product. See WP:PROUD. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:09, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
AngusWOOF, I have added all the necessary sources and sent them for verification, but the article has been in the process of being verified for almost 90 days. What do I need to do to continue the process? Thank you. Vladislav at SSHE (talk) 16:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Vladislav at SSHE, the report.az article is just a press release-like news announcement about the president meeting with other schools. It doesn't really give in-depth on the school. The 1news.az one is okay. The Dukascopy TV is a direct interview with the president of the school, so that fits more the primary source Q&A. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:01, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello AngusWOOF, I am writing as you recently declined my draft article at this link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Circuits_(Chris_Potter_album) - pointing out that critical reviews were required. In response to this I would note that no review included in the Wikipedia article of any of Chris Potter's albums has given a score of less than 3 stars; in this instance I can find no reviews of 'Circuits' awarding a score of less than four stars. I would not, for example, expect the article for Miles Davis' album 'Kind of Blue' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kind_of_Blue) to be declined or accused of POV bias simply because all the reviews are extremely positive.
Furthermore, the difficulty I have encountered in getting my draft published has been somewhat unexpected given that every previous Chris Potter studio release has its own article here on Wikipedia and some of the articles (such as this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Will_Be_(album)) are notably less comprehensive than my draft.
AngusWOOF, thank you for your response. I'm afraid that in this case, as with many 4 star reviews, the reviews in question are positive throughout (they might not award the 5th star simply because, although there may be nothing inherently wrong with the album, it is not especially outstanding). To once again reference the articles of previous Chris Potter releases, I would observe that here (and in other cases) - The Dreamer Is the Dream - when citing 4 star reviews, the author includes only positive comments.
It's not just a Canadian thing, that was just an example. I've tried to clarify that a bit.
I'm not sure what other references you are looking for. I think I added more since you looked. Can you give me hints of what else I should do here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgifford (talk • contribs) 20:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Mgifford, I went ahead and pushed it through. It has enough news articles for it to be a notable position. Please add more history as to when the term first came about, like whether it was because of the C-Suite trend. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:39, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
hi AngussWOOF. I've blitzed Draft:Jane Suiter since you declined the original creator's version 2 months ago, and was wondering if you could have another look at it? Bogger (talk) 16:40, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Kiev should be a redirect to Kyiv, not the other way round as you have stated. Reasons are given on the draft Kyiv page. Votes by trolls should be ignored.
Andrijpetrenko, you could discuss that at the Kiev talk page as to what spelling is primary topic for English Wikipedia, but looking at that talk page, there is already consensus to go with Kiev instead of Kyiv. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:11, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Andrijpetrenko (talk) 03:13, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Votes have already been taken at The Tenth United Nations Conference on the Standardization of Geographical Names New York, 31 July-9 August 2012
X/9. Romanization of Ukrainian geographical names
The Conference,
Recognizing that in 2010 Ukraine officially adopted a system of romanization
for geographical names, which revised a system used since 1996,
Recognizing also that, although not fully reversible, the system has
nevertheless been well implemented in maps, gazetteers and databases of Ukraine,
as well as on public signs and in spheres of life other than those concerning
geographical names,
Recommends that the system, as set out in the document entitled
“Romanization system in Ukraine”,7 be adopted as the international system for the
romanization of Ukrainian geographical names.
Andrijpetrenko (talk) 08:58, 13 July 2019 (UTC) Have also done a google search for "London to Kiev". Interesting google flights and skyscanner listed Kyiv for that Kiev search. The map that came up for me showed Kyiv spelling also for that "London to Kiev" search. Others will catch on eventually to the U.S. Board on Geographic Names Kyiv which came into effect on June 17. The writer of the wiki Kiev article has made his case for not changing the spelling which is not consistent with the changes already occurring. Have read your reference, so which parts of the wiki reference for names you gave me to read does my article not meet.Andrijpetrenko (talk) 08:58, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello sir, thank you for the details about the ExOne entry. I have added additional citations from Wall Street Journal and USA Today. I have also removed the historic product list, which was provided as timeline reference to back up facts regarding ExOne commercializing binder jetting technology for sand and metal 3D printing. Can you kindly reconsider the resubmitted entry? This is a historically relevant 3D printing company, and the sourcing, especially the cited engineering books, does back up that fact.Sarahannwebster (talk) 10:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Sarahannwebster, I'm concerned though that there may be some COI especially for the EnvisionTEC article, where you should probably self-disclose your connection to the subject. As for ExOne, is it a competitor or partnering company? That might have to have a COI declared as well. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:27, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I appreciate the question, but I don't really have a conflict here, other than wanting facts to be correct. :) I used to work for EnvisionTEC when I occasionally updated their content on Wikipedia. While I currently am not employed by ExOne, and also not being paid by them for this, I used to be the editor in chief for the Society of Manufacturing Engineers (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahannwebster/) and noticed ExOne had no entry and other entities were acting like they invented some technology that ExOne commercialized a very long time ago. If there was some way to disclose my relationship with EnvisionTEC when editing incorrect fact, I wasn't aware of it. I am not being paid in any way for the ExOne content and am happy to disclose that. Kindly let me know if there's some official way to disclose as I don't recall seeing any prompts along those lines. Sarahannwebster (talk) 19:43, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I also just noticed your question about ExOne and EnvisionTEC ... I don't work for either one of them so I don't know if they have any relationship but I doubt it. Sarahannwebster (talk) 19:49, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Sarahannwebster, okay, thanks for disclosing. I put in the connected contributor tags on those articles' talk pages. There's an icon called {{UserboxCOI}} you can add to your user page, so you can do that for EnvisionTEC and SME (society). AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:02, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I added the COI box to my user page and am not sure I did it correctly? If you have a moment and could let me know, I would very much appreciate it. Should I put dates for when I was associated with those entities, since I am no longer? Sarahannwebster (talk) 20:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello there again. This article just got rejected by another reviewer for having *too many* citations. I had added more citations (from WSJ, USA Today, etc.) after you asked for more reliable, independent citations. I'm a little confused now. I've asked the other reviewer for additional guidance, but if you could help, I would appreciate it. Best, Sarahannwebster (talk) 20:42, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
What I can do in order you leave me edit in peace? What is unnecessary must be how short the content was, giving it didn't explain almost nothing about the characters of one punch man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Joker who cries (talk • contribs) 13:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
submitting a page for creation as an artical that i haven't started
gday mate, i've made numerous additions. alterations and edits to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Butterfield, how can i get it reviewed and hopefully created as a wikipedia page. you were the last person to look at it, can i please get you to check it over it must be right now! it's a lot better than when i first saw it, there was a lot lacking in it and i could understand its declined status. however i am not the creator, i've just tried to fix it up as i want it created myself!
can you tell me what needs to be changed, or how it needs to be changed. just telling me it sounds like an ad, just doesn't help me in any way! there was a lack of references, and a lack of articles about the man for him to be notable. that's what i understood from what i read in the review boxes, i thought what i added remedied those issues i need to know how to fix it PLEASE! Rockwizfan (talk) 16:44, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
I am learning to write english wikipedia page. My intention was never to advertise. As reviewer's give me the advice I make the changes accordingly. You may check the history of this page. Previous reviewer asked me for more references, so I added those by lot of hard work. Now, to remove the advertisement (as you see it if any) can you guide me with some example of sentence from the page with change in it. I will make those types of changes to whole page. I have no intent to advertise anyone. So, I can also remove the sentences which you feel are advertising (please tell them specifically). The subject of the page is notable because its marathi language wikipedia already exists and is also included in wikidata. Please inform and guide. Thanks for the review.
MA$HRVA(Talk) Write Right!! 19:06, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
MA$HRVA, it still reads like you're trying to say how great the person is with the words chosen, saying how he is "innovative", "pioneer record setter", "strong instinct developed in his mind to do something good", "completely devoted", "worked selflessly", "his eco-innovations are useful", "innovation galore", "he gave the solution of", " first Indian to make a hattrick of world records". This is all words that are showing how great he is, and the verbiage only shows that that he amasses a bunch of random world records such as coin stacking or shortest will, that have nothing to do with his primary field. This needs a fundamental rewrite from a perspective of someone who isn't a fan of the person. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@AngusWOOF: Thank you for the guidance. I will try to make the changes and give the references. Its a good learning experience for me. MA$HRVA(Talk) Write Right!! 19:02, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Draft: Upland Software
Hello AngusWOOF, Here are three articles that show a depth of coverage of the company for Draft:Upland_Software rather than an event:
Naadobea1776, the first two sources are of the same product announcement (7 products), and do not really detail the company history. The third one by 451 Group is a little better, explaining how it goes after acquiring companies. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 11:14, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Johnathan Brownlee Draft
Thank you for your comments on the first drafts of my first-ever article. I have reworked the citations and inserted additional ones so that only those with a specific mention are included. I do have a question about the credits in the tables -- does each role need a reference/citation? I appreciate your direction. MBAWilbins (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the input, AngusWOOF. I have now included only citations for each film that use Brownlee's name as executive producer, producer and/or director, and have moved each citation to indicate more clearly that it is citing his role for the purpose of notability. Please let me know if there are other revisions, and I appreciate your time. MBAWilbins (talk) 12:46, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Greetings, AngusWOOF. Since your last review, I have polished the draft to address your helpful comments (added external news sources, removed excessive links, used only sources that cite Brownlee's role in each film, added more articles about Brownlee himself and his career, focused on sources that show he is notable). An editor through Teahouse also made edits. (It was gratifying to find a reference to Brownlee by Hofstra University Department of Drama and Dance on their "Notable Alumni" list alongside fellow alumnus Francis Ford Coppola.) If you have the time, your comments on the latest version would be truly appreciated. MBAWilbins (talk) 21:07, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
They are the first pop male female duo from Sikkim with significant listeners not just in Sikkim but across the Eastern Himalayas.
They were hailed as first mixed pop duo by media of the region. Ninnu1105 (talk) 08:07, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Ninnu1105, this still needs more news sources. TNT is one, but there needs to be other notable mainstream newspapers. Vibes Northeast and CatchNews are Q&A interview mainly / primary source. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 11:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Request on 11:52:21, 9 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Leviungi
Hi there, thanks for the review of the page. I've modified it and about to resubmit, but I would like to hear first what you think of it before doing that. I appreciate the help. Leviungi (talk) 11:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Leviungi, can you add maybe a section on impact of Aces and Queens on the pageant industry. It appears they were the first to have the camp. You can indicate how other camps have surfaced because of their work. Also criticism and reception by the media? I'm trying to keep the article neutral in tone as opposed to be all good and happy promotional. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
This is great.Okay, I will include impact. I'm not sure if I can draw a connection between the two big beauty camps with the rise of other boot camps too. Most of them don't get as much news but I'll try to check sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leviungi (talk • contribs) 12:13, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello
Mr. Sussman had a wikipedia displayed for years and someone deleted it, so I am trying to reinstate it. He recently published a new book "Boxing and the Mob," which is getting excellent reviews. There are reliable sources listed, he has been mentioned in the NY Times, and wrote the book "No Mere Bagatelles" which is the authorized biography of Judith and Gerson Leiber. I just added 3 WMP sources, 2 from people magazine, and some NY Times articles. Mr. Sussman was longtime friend and associate of the Leibers, [who are both prominent figures in art and fashion history, and both have wikipedia pages.
Hi AngusWOOF, my article for a film distribution company was recently rejected by you I think based mainly on the sources I used. [19] I'm wondering if you could tell me which sources I used you consider "independent" and which you don't. I read through the Wikipedia articles on the subject but I'm still having trouble determining which ones I used are or are not. Or is the issue simply that there aren't enough sources? Or is the issue that you don't consider the subject notable enough for an article in general? Thanks very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeoWinters95 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Ones that are not independent are ones connected to the company (hammertonail, vimeo, acentertainment) or ones listed in the databases (Allmusic, IMDb). See also WP:PRIMARYAngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Draft:OAV Air Bearings
Hey AngusWoof, you've declined my article, OAV Air Bearings and listed the reason as an insufficient amount of news sources. The sources that are on the article include a paper magazine, 3 news articles, and a blog along with the company website. There are more sources that I can include, however adding more sources then what is already there would be detrimental to the flow of the article, meaning the article would sound choppy with facts that don't have a relevant connection to the history section of my article. I would love to hear more of your feedback as well as how I could potentially get this article on Wikipedia and accepted as a verified article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Breezekovy (talk • contribs) 18:41, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Breezekovy, Happening to see this request: first, there are no sources that qualify as references providing substantial coverage from third-party independent reliable sources, not press releases or mere announcements . Second ,the article appears to be essentially an advertisement for the company.Three separate reviewers have declined to accept this article, and I would have done the same also. DGG ( talk ) 10:23, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Discovergeeks, it reads like a ad, with lists of services. Please read WP:MILL and indicate how this organization isn't just some local business with branches in multiple towns? You need sources independent of the subject as well. See WP:ORGCRITAngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 09:40, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Okay, AngusWOOF. We will hand out three more MEOWCAT™️ units to other fellow Wikipedians. It’s part of the Diehard Pet Store.
Regarding Raymond J. Chambers
Dear Editor,
I have reviewed your comments, which I know are well intended, but they have left me puzzled. The 30 references that I have given in the article refer to papers published in Financial Times top 50 journals, all of which are of the highest standard and considered as the basis for tenure decisions at major T1 universities in the United States (i.e. the acceptance rate for articles in these journals is around one percent). The books that I have cited are widely held (some appear in over 1,000 university libraries in the United States according to WorldCat.com). In addition, I have made references to Chambers' American Accounting Association's Accounting Hall of Fame Induction, which represents the highest honor any academic accounting can achieve. The selection is made by the AAA's 4,000 members and a panel of the most esteemed academics in our discipline, with has representatives from several Ivy league universities. The Wikipedia entry for the Accounting Hall of Fame reads:
"Selection to The Accounting Hall of Fame is intended to honor and recognize distinguished service and contributions to the progress of accounting in any of its various fields. Evidence of such service includes contributions to accounting research and literature, significant service to professional accounting organizations, wide recognition as an authority in some field of accounting, advancement of accounting education, and public service. A member must have reached a position of eminence from which the nature of his or her contributions may be established."
It should be noted that almost all Accounting Hall of Fame recipients have a Wikipedia entry already, and all of them have less citations and much less information than the current one under review. Consider, as an example, the following one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_J._Ball
Ray Ball's profile has three citations, two of which is the Accounting Hall of Fame.
It is therefore my understanding that Chambers meets the following criteria as you have outlined under WP:NACADEMIC:
"Criteria: The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the IEEE).[2]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.E.Persson (talk • contribs) 13:18, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
In addition, Chambers was inducted into the Order of Australia. The Wikipedia entry for this reads:
The Order of Australia is an order of chivalry established on 14 February 1975 by Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia, to recognise Australian citizens and other persons for achievement or meritorious service. Before the establishment of the order, Australian citizens received British honours. The Queen of Australia is Sovereign Head of the Order,[2] while the Governor-General is Principal Companion/Dame/Knight (as relevant at the time) and Chancellor of the Order. The Governor-General's Official Secretary, currently Paul Singer, is Secretary of the Order.
Would you please consider my request in earnest. My professional life has been dedicated to honor those that have contributed to the development of accounting thought, and I feel considerable distress that Raymond J. Chambers is being deprived of an entry unlike almost all of his peers. Please feel free to reach out below as well.
Martin E. Persson, MSc, PhD
Assistant Professor, Department of Accountancy
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
396 Wohlers Hall, 1206 S. Sixth Street, Champaign, IL 61820
217.300.8547 | mpersson@illinois.edu
M.E.Persson, thanks for your feedback on Chambers. I will ask the other editors to help scrub this for tone. Much of the wording portrays him in a glowing positive light about how he accomplished many things so I marked it for too many primary sources WP:PRIMARY (his own works) and possible bias as it was written by his peers / colleagues as conflict of interest WP:COI. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 13:29, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
M.E.Persson, I went ahead and accepted the article. I saw a ton of academic biographies from journals, showing he meets Academic for chair. Hopefully other editors can scrub it for tone and that it can be rewritten with a neutral point of view. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:04, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you so much for this AngusWOOF. I really appreciate that you've taken the time to attend this so quickly. I can't imagine all the work involved with Wiki. I'm going to review the entry myself as soon as I can and scrub some of the language as suggested. I think some of it was added in response to the first editor, which seemed to imply that Chambers was not important enough. But your edit was much more helpful in directing me to the criteria for recognizing academics on Wikipedia. With very best wishes,
Hi @AngusWOOF: you have declined this article: Draft:Kali Muni Tharisanam several days ago, now i have improve it, please take a look. The film is very notable, it is screened nationwide in Malaysia and Singapore; can't compare the film to English-language film who received widespread coverage; i will add more source and info in future. Hope the article stays, thanks! --added by User:LoveFromBJM (talk) [UTC Time: 0709, 18 July 2019]
LoveFromBJM, can you find some film reviews? The film was recently released so the local and national newspapers should have lots of coverage by now if it is very notable as you say. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:48, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback on this initial draft. Before revising, I was hoping for a little further guidance, so I had some questions/comments pertaining to the feedback you provided. Thanks in advance for your time. The first is to your point that "Music Row" isn't a notable chart. While agreed, it's certainly not "Billboard", however, it is still a very highly coveted chart, actively worked in the country music genre by the same A list artists that sit atop the other larger charts, aforementioned. In other words, it's not just for any musician with a song. It requires some substantial notability to be considered and included in the top 200 of the US. Wondering if there is any room for reconsideration here.
The second comment I was looking for a little clarification on was the one about this section, "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Several of the 12 listed references are full articles, very few, if any, just "passing mentions". In fact, one in particular is the entire front page of the 3rd party newspaper, electronic and hard copy print. There are also several major TV affiliate news channel on-air interviews referenced as well, including WCNC and WMBF, both NBC affiliates in NC and SC, respectively. Also included are major awards, and exclusive event inclusion (CCMF) etc. Would these not sufficiently show 3rd party notability and validation? Thanks again for your assistance, as I'm a fairly new blogger and contributor to the Wiki community.2600:1700:C740:97B0:7961:5423:1E24:123D (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear AngusWOOF, In March you suggested adding more justification for the topic, pruning, and diminishing the mentions of Anderson. In May I inserted motivation for the importance of this rule, cut items, and removed mentions of Anderson (except in the references). I'm hoping this is just what you wanted. Please let me know if problems remain. Thanks kindly. DiScience (talk) 19:13, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
AngusWOOF, It is also discussed in an environmental economics textbook (Environmental Economics and Natural Resource Management) and a video (see screen shot). You're right that it's currently hard to find. As a relatively new solution to big problems, the ability to find it on Wikipedia could be a good thing. It would be a useful link from the Externality page, which includes a list of other solutions to externalities. Thanks for any assistance you can provide! DiScience (talk) 14:47, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
AngusWOOF, Fair enough. I was trying to give those who come upon it in the economics textbook, video, or Anderson article the ability to find another angle on it, but I'll wait until there are more secondary sources. Thanks. DiScience (talk) 21:19, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Draft:FoodMaven Question
Hi AngusWOOF. At Draft:FoodMaven you said you were removing an “extra” submit tag, but in fact that was the only submit tag on the page. Removing the tag took the draft out of the AfC queue for review. I wasn’t sure if you intended to take the draft out of the queue? (ie am I prohibited from re-submitting?). I didn’t want to re-instate the tag if there was some reason it can’t be re-submitted. PJ FOODMAVEN (talk) 16:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt review and comment on the draft page of Dynamite Clothing. I’ve looked through quite a few sources, and while Dynamite has a very similar sounding name to Groupe Dynamite, it has enough relevancy and significance to be considered for its own wikipedia entry. To take an example from the same industry, it’s similar to Gap Inc. owning brands like Banana Republic and Old Navy, which both have their independent entries on Wikipedia. In plenty of other domains and cases, subsidiaries often have their own pages, such as in the case of Bell Media and Virgin Mobile Canada being part of BCE Inc. Groupe Dynamite operates Garage and Dynamite, both well-known stores in Canada which have their distinct branding and target demographics. I have added more information about the brand and found sources backing up every bit of it. Hope this clarifies this entry submission. Have a great day, and I appreciate your editing work!
Thank you Angus, you've always been very fair. Wikipedia for me is a place where we all help contribute to grow which is why I decided to put this through the draft method rather than just straight to the article space, in regards to those references you mentioned I keep getting conflicting things because people ask me to add more and then others say remove them and then others will then say there's not enough so it goes round in circles, I thought myself this was excessive but because of this I covered them all hence why, so it really becomes a place of conflict. I know each reviewer has different things they go by which is noted in the Wikipedia notability but what I do need people to understand with this album and why it's very significant is not so much the chart aspect of this (although this has produced national chart hits) but how notable it is to the artist (as the Wikipedia page says some reviewers from an established artist will accept this, others not so much) however it's also part of the significant albums that were recorded at Prince's Paisley Park too (which is very helpful for people using Wikipedia for sources there) so there is all these sides in regards to why, I feel, this album is one of those exceptions with notability and that it's pivotal it has it's own article for the combination of things mentioned. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you and explain this to you because I do find that with this whole approval thing a lot of it is a clash of ego's and power trips (not yourself by any means as you've approved a couple of my articles before too once we've worked on them but I have come across this a lot which you can tell by the editors history too). However I wanted to explain this to you so you can kindly help and understand why this is an album, I feel is not only very notable but one that should be taken into consideration due to the combination of things. It never specifically made a massive chart impact due to complications with Polydor and it's distribution however it did create international chart hits and of course the Paisley Park thing I mentioned too, which doesn't help just being on an artists page (if that makes sense), it's just an album that is very significant in it's own right which hopefully you can understand a little better now as I know this helps when it comes to reviews.
If you could be so kind to have a little browse and work on the article (The Key) by removing any sources you feel are excessive that would be great, again, it's a complete clash here with various reviewers requesting more then others saying too many that it becomes quite frustrating. I've been working on this very hard since January to get it right with all the requested info and growth of the article I do feel it's something that it's almost there but it's just getting it right really as like I say, so many people have different reasons of their own it's very contradicting and I know there is some who just like to go round denying people's articles or making their work difficult cause they get some power trip from that or something (again, this is absolutely not yourself, this is just something I have seen on numerous occasions with certain reviewers) so I'm really glad when I see your name come across things as I know you're very genuine and fair though I did want to kindly ask you in regards to this with the clean up, put in another review and when you're ready hopefully you can kindly review this again and finally have the article moved to the article space.
Thank you so much Angus, you are a real credit and contributor to Wikipedia and I'm sincerely grateful for your time and help here with things so thank you!! Music Editor 2017 (talk) 20:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
So you said that my article seemed to be a failure because it seems like the product of a run-of-the-mill thing. You said that it was that. I’ve found a source of international origin, specifically this one.
I also have proof that this is international. They did reviews of things in Bali, Shanghai,
and even more. However, the email seems really Manila but I have reason to believe that whoever owns that website lives in someplace like Malaysia. Generally, this website does reviews for SEA.
AngusWOOF, what regions? Southeast Asia not international enough? That’s the onlyreviews I can find. No European reviews, no African reviews, no American reviews, the only reviews are from Southeast Asia. That’s the most international the sources can get.— Preceding unsigned comment added by A diehard editor (talk • contribs)
So, AngusWOOF, you think that the Ish Meets World link thing is not that mainstream enought? Spot.ph review is the most mainstream review article available. I think I should go buy mining equipment to mine for more sources about Pound x Flatterie.
A diehard editor, spot.ph at least has a website link on Wikipedia. Can't say the same about Eatsplorations. How about these:
Note also that Todd English Food Hall is the name of the NYC establishment, while his Manila one is now "The Food Hall" or "Food Hall". This could probably go to Todd English's article so as not to confuse anymore. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:19, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Yay! I’ll bring you a dog. I think the Todd English article should eat up Pound or maybe just partially, like the Main Article thing. This kind of main article:
As you may know, I've been creating the page for Zenati. Can you go through everything I need for the page? Note: he isn't as popular as other artists but has been doing music for a while.
Okiokidude, the main thing is to provide news sources to show he meets WP:MUSICBIO. You can list WP:THREE news articles that are independent of his production team that go over his career in detail but that are not interviews. The discography looks like a copy of his website with all the personal comments, so it really should be removed and only labeled albums and charted singles should be posted. Has he even charted anywhere? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:02, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
As I have said before, he is not very popular. He posts his music on YouTube. Second, He has no website. All of the music information is from when he promotes his releases. Okiokidude (talk) 22:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
I would need some more direct help and guidelines in order to know, which sources do not count as reliable. I read all the wiki instructions, but it is difficult for me to understand, what is allowed and what is not. Is there a way to talk in private or we have to discuss it all here? I am planning to update many other artists in the techno scene, as I think that those, who have been in the scene for long, deserve it, just like pop singers or other celebrities. Some already have a page, but I would like to extend it with a lot more information, but for that I need to have a better understanding in which information I can use from pages like Discogs or Resident Advisor, or whether I can refer to a Dutch online news magazine as a source in an English wiki article etc. Could you help me, please, to do it right?
I have recently edited the page Pinky Weber and I was wondering if the edits/ page has been approved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SophiaBG (talk • contribs)
SophiaBG You can click the resubmit button at Draft:Pinky Weber if you think it's ready to be reviewed again. I still think it needs more work on the sourcing and significance. Having it appear in a newspaper or magazine article doesn't make the person notable but the article can help for sourcing. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:14, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
RE: Draft:Pan Kim
Dear Editor AngusWOOF,
I am writing regarding a recently rejected article Draft:Pan Kim. First of all, I would like to thank you for your time reviewing the draft.
As a quick reminder, your concern/comment on the article is as follows: "Please specify how Kim meets WP:NACADEMIC." I have reviewed the notability guidelines, and revised the draft to clarify how Kim meets the conditions noted on WP:NACADEMIC. Providing an overview below.
Criterion 2 International-level Academic Award: The awards listed under the "Selected Awards and Honors" section of the draft are considered major awards in the area of Public Administration. Per WP:NACADEMIC, publications of the awarding institution are considered a reliable source, so I revised the draft to include 1) the name of the awarding institution, and 2) reference to the publication of the awarding institution.
Criterion 3 Elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society: Kim is an elected lifetime international fellow of the National Academy of Public Administration, a congressionally chartered non-partisan non-profit academy in Washington D.C. Per WP:NACADEMIC, publications of the electing institution are considered a reliable source, so I again revised the draft to include 1) the name of the electing institution, and 2) reference to the publication of the electing institution.
Criterion 4 Affecting academic institutions: As an example, I'd like to highlight his article (with Gregory Lewis) entitled “ Asian Americans in the Public Service: Success, Diversity, and Discrimination” published in the Public Administration Review (volume 54, number 3) in 1994. Such is the first article dealing with Asian American employment and representation in the American federal government. This article is now frequently used for discussing diversity and representation matters in the American public personnel management classes. This article is recently included in a book edited by Walter Doyce Broadnax, who was a Distinguished Professor of Public Administration at the Maxwell School of Syracuse University and the president of Clark Atlanta University in Atlanta, entitled Diversity and Affirmative Action in Public Service (Taylor and Francis, 2018).
Criterion 5 Appointment as a "Distinguished Professor": Kim was a Distinguished Professor at Yonsei University. Per WP:NACADEMIC guidelines, I've updated the draft to include 1) the name of the appointing institution, and 2) reference to the publication of the appointing institution.
Criterion 7 Impact outside academia in their academic capacity: Kim has served as the Minister of Personnel Management in the Republic of Korea (and Secretary to the President for Personnel Policy prior to that). Also, although not noted in the article draft, as another example of his activities outside academia, Kim recently held a session at Indonesia's 2019 Presidential Lecture. Also as noted in the draft, Kim has led a number of professional associations, and was a member of the United Nations Committee of Experts on Public Administration for two terms.
Criterion 8 Chief Editorship: Kim served as the editor-in-chief of well-regarded academic journals in the Public Administration subject area. I've updated the draft to make sure the article includes a reliable reference (i.e. publications of the journal / publishers).
In addition to the points above, I noted that tone & bias may potentially be of concern, so I've cleaned-up what I could find. As noted in WP:NACADEMIC guidelines, professors who meet any of the conditions are considered notable, so I would greatly appreciate if you could please kindly re-review the draft in discussion. Thank you for your time and attention!
Justinkym, thanks for the detailed list and adding in the sources to justify it. I'm ready to accept the article into mainspace, just have to clear some network issue that popped up on Wikipedia today. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:58, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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