User talk:Amaury/2020/April
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Need more eyes here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Re this edit, it looks to me like a good-faith attempt, though clumsily executed, to shorten the episode synopsis' length, as per WP:TVPLOT. Any chance you can look at the two versions, and see if there's some way to make the synopsis for that episode closer to the IP's shorter version?... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:44, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- This is what edit summaries are for, but clearly IPs don't care. You're welcome to take responsibility for it, and I'll copy-edit it later. Amaury • 18:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- OK, I'll take a look, and try to clean up their version... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Looks like we still need to keep an eye on this one, as the IP will just not drop trying to "edit" this episode synopsis, despite the fact that their edits are never really "improvements"... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:36, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- You're up... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:30, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Need more eyes here – the idiotic "superhero" fans are up to their usual nonsense of acting like the "superhero names" are the actual names of the characters, when there is zero evidence that they'll ever become the WP:COMMONNAMES of the characters on this show (and thus contrary to WP:TVCAST). At the very least, doing this is WP:RECENTISM. Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: You're in luck. I created it, so it's already on my list. Amaury • 16:23, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi, please hold on and do not revert my edits into your version. I want to debate on the article Just Roll with It. If you click on an article Adam Small it would direct to the article titled Adam Small who is an American composer not a creator or a writer. Adam Small is notably the co-creator of Mad TV in addition to the co-creator of Just Roll with It. Also, the sitcom is set in Akron, Ohio. So I put Category:Television shows set in Ohio because the setting Akron, Ohio is mentioned in the Just Roll with It article as the setting and you remove the Television shows set in Ohio by mistake. I am not disrupt the edits and I want a resolution with you to be solved. So look and investigate first and do not revert my edits to fast. This is to solve my edits and make my edits acceptable. I hope you can reply me back ASAP, Thanks. 2001:569:74D2:A800:7CF9:9FBE:AB52:DADD (talk) 22:24, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Do not revert my edits too fast and put the reverts on hold. This is an urgent message. I hope you can reply me soon to solve the problem. 2001:569:74D2:A800:7CF9:9FBE:AB52:DADD (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've answered at User talk:IJBall#Just Roll with It if you wish to chime in. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Could you, or whoever sees this, please try to revert this edit at Ronni Hawk?! – Every time I try to edit the article, I'm getting an error message... Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- OK, seems to be working now – I was able to revert. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:25, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Your recent interaction with User:ToeFungii could have gone much smoother. All the guy wanted to do was split a compound sentence in two. Does that really require a talk page discussion for consensus, followed by a dismissive response when he tries to discuss it in the wrong spot? Argento Surfer (talk) 18:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Given that a) there is nothing complex about the sentence, b) their first change was incorrect, c) the second version created a choppy awkward lede, and d) they responded with a personal attack, the lack of smoothness was all on Toefungi's side. --bonadea contributions talk 19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- That's one way to see it. Of course, you could also see it as a) it confused him, so he sought to prevent others from being confused, b) his first edit was an attempt at improvement, c) his second edit was suggested to him by a third party when he sought guidance, and d) all of his effort was snubbed by someone too busy insulting his grammar to address his questions. I'd be frustrated enough to insult someone too. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:37, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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WP:TVPLOT says summaries should be between 100 and 200 words but that doesn't mean that summaries below 100 words are automatically copyvios. Deleting summaries because you think they might possible could be copyvios is inappropriate, WP:IDONTLIKEIT and bordering on vandalism. If you think summaries are copyvios then do the actual work and confirm that they are copyvios. Don't just delete them because of a vague suspicion. You've done this to multiple articles, please don't do it again. --AussieLegend (✉) 08:47, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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Just wanting to ask in advance... is it fine to use the official YouTube playlist for adding an AltTitle? I know you usually go off of iTunes and Amazon, but I usually go off of YouTube, which usually updates at midnight ET. It's updated for the April 11 episodes of Danger Force and All That, adding "Captain Mayonnaise" as "Ray Goes Cray". Magitroopa (talk) 04:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Magitroopa: My $0.02 is that this is probably OK to use, though something more obviously directly from Nick would be better... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:27, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure how more 'official' we can really get than this, unless we were to wait for Futon Critic to possibly update the title (which it may not even). Both Amazon and iTunes have updated now though, both using the "Ray Goes Cray" title. The only other thing I can think of is Nickelodeon's schedule on their website, though that's already been said to be WP:NOTRS in the past... Magitroopa (talk) 15:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Even the nick schedule website got updated to "Ray Goes Cray". Basically all the sources that continue to update their lists after the initial air date are all using "Ray Goes Cray". So, I don't think there's any question of whether the title is reliable. — Starforce13 17:02, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Magitroopa: We can source it to Amazon. Nickelodeon can't be used a source for previously explained reasons. It's not that it's necessarily unreliable. Amaury • 17:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure how more 'official' we can really get than this, unless we were to wait for Futon Critic to possibly update the title (which it may not even). Both Amazon and iTunes have updated now though, both using the "Ray Goes Cray" title. The only other thing I can think of is Nickelodeon's schedule on their website, though that's already been said to be WP:NOTRS in the past... Magitroopa (talk) 15:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Hey, I don't have time to watch this – what does he say?... Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:11, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: It's worth the watch at about four and a half minutes when you have the chance. Posted on Thursday, to summarize, he basically says he is turning 18—not sure if he has yet, but that's a fairly minor point—and has taken industry art, I think he said, to follow his dreams. He stated the series has been renewed for a fourth season, but we of course know we can't use actors' statements as they are just employees—not for cancellations/endings or renewals. As such, we still have to assume the third season is the last, which makes adding a season parenthetical note for him unnecessary right now. He doesn't feel like he can balance pursuing his dreams and starring in the series, so he made the difficult decision not to return to the series in order to continue to develop not only as an actor, but a person as well. He basically feels that because he doesn't think he can balance the two, it would hinder his ability to develop as a person by staying on the series, or something to that extent. Amaury • 23:24, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, OK – so this is a decision that a lot of "child actors" end up making, to leave "the business" (often to my disappointment) to pursue other things. But it sounds like he articulately expressed the sentiment, so there's that going for him. Thanks. (P.S. I thought there was RS reporting that the show had been renewed for a fourth season – am I misremembering this?...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Yeah, Sal was one of my favorite characters. And Daan Creyghton himself appears to be a pretty nice guy just from watching that video alone; he can certainly pronounce all of the names he mentioned with ease. (Like, Mae Mae Renfrow is pretty easy, but then you get to names like Wilson Radjou-Pujalte, and you try to pronounce the last names how they sounds, only to realize it might not be the right way to pronounce them.) The only "source" we have right now is this, which I showed you on your talk page back in February, but of course, WP:NOTRS. I think once we have a reliable source, we can add in Daan Creyghton's statement about him not returning, and only that, but right now it would make no sense since we have nothing (from a reliable source) stating the series has been renewed. On another note, I am happy it's renewed, but I Am Frankie needs to be renewed as well. Amaury • 15:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, OK – so this is a decision that a lot of "child actors" end up making, to leave "the business" (often to my disappointment) to pursue other things. But it sounds like he articulately expressed the sentiment, so there's that going for him. Thanks. (P.S. I thought there was RS reporting that the show had been renewed for a fourth season – am I misremembering this?...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Been looking through a few cartoon articles, but still not sure what to do. I'm wanting to add the ratings for It's Pony, but came to a bit of a problem. The episodes "Unicorn" and "Plants!" aired on the same day (January 25, 2020) but have completely different production codes (103B and 101A), which is why they are currently separated in the episode table. Same thing goes for "Heston's Coat" and "Game Horse" on the same day (February 1, 2020) with different production codes as well (101B and 103A). How exactly should this be added to the ratings, as Showbuzz combines both into the same airing on those two dates? Best I could find would be The Casagrandes, like "New Haunts" and "Croaked", but those were aired on different days. Here's what I came up with currently... though incorrect since the ratings are listed twice. My guess would be to combine both pairs in the episode table and ratings table, resulting in raw ratings data from "Unicorn" / "Plants!"
and raw ratings data from "Heston's Coat" / "Game Horse"
and that the episode total would get lowered from 11 to 9 after combining them. Thanks. Magitroopa (talk) 23:17, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- You can do something like the premiere of Andi Mack. See List of Andi Mack episodes#Season 1 (2017). Amaury • 23:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- So listing the 0.747 (for "Unicorn" and "Plants!") and the 0.567 (for "Heston's Coat" and "Game Horse") twice in the ratings calculations would be correct? I would think that leads to the incorrect average, as from Showbuzz Daily, those are for the full length of the show, not for each individual segment. Magitroopa (talk) 23:52, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Showbuzz Daily references
"no-break space character in |title= at position 31"
You may have noticed the above "error message" appearing in Showbuzz Daily refs recently (I know I have!) – I just came across this at Middle School Moguls. Well, I think I've figured out this issue: in this example ref title – "Top 150 Monday Cable Originals & Network Finals: 9.2.2019" – the problematic "no-break" character is between the word "Originals" and the "&". So if you simply place the cursor right before the "&", hit backspace, and then replace the deleted character with a regular "[Space]" character, the error message goes away.
Now, this may affect a lot of articles with these kinds of SBD refs, and it's likely too big a job for one editor to fix. But it is the kind of thing that might lend itself to a fix by a user with WP:AWB – so if you know an editor with WP:AWB rights, you might ask them about fixing these; otherwise, putting in a request at WP:AWBREQ is an option... Just so you know. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Fixed the ones I saw in those articles listed in my sandbox. This is what happens when people who don't know how to do things right do it instead of leaving it to the professionals. All of the ones I fixed were from viewership data that neither me nor someone like Magitroopa added, as we both know what we're doing. Amaury • 15:55, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
@Amaury: Hey, the ratings for the most recent episode of Dare Me need adding to the ratings table, but I've never done American series ratings and I'm not sure which data I'd input into the table. I think this Archived 2019-09-10 at the Wayback Machine is the website for that day's broadcasts – would you be able to input it? – DarkGlow (talk) 12:13, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- @DarkGlow: No need to ping me on my own talk page. I get message notifications. I meant to respond, but forgot. Sorry about that. I'll get to it when I'm off work tonight. Amaury • 23:06, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! I wasn't going to ping you, but the series just got cancelled so I thought I'd re-ask. – DarkGlow (talk) 23:08, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I admit some of the sections I added to the infobox weren't really necessary. However, I did just fix a couple of typos, and added some necessary links, like the link to the show's official website. Also, how exactly do I format the "Reception" section properly? - RobThomas15 (talk) 04:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Well? Aren't you gonna respond? RobThomas15 (talk) 01:12, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
You reverted my edit and replaced "marries" with "gets married to" and "has married" with "has gotten married to". The words you inserted are not necessary, have worsened the style, and make the sentences sound uglier. Please respect writing quality and be constructive. - jellysandwich0 (talk) 14:33, 29 April 2020 (UTC)