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Anya Kisskalt
[edit]Her name is Kisskalt, not Kißkalt. You can look this obvious fact up literally everywhere where she is mentioned. If you keep deliberately changing her name to a misspelling, I will report you for vandalism. Wanquanbiantai (talk) 22:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia should be about all content being correct, not about aggressively defending a false assumption. Since you seem to know Anya, let her show you her ID. Her last name is Kißkalt, even though she is registered as Kisskalt in SimplyCompete and that is why it is written Kisskalt in all tournament results. At the DTU and in TaekwondoData this was adopted without checking it. It's not that important, since the spelling Kisskalt corresponds to the international spelling without country-specific special characters, which is also found in the machine-readable zone at the bottom of the ID cards. However, at the name zone on her ID it is written in the national spelling with all special characters, in Anya's case Kißkalt. Alfredcm (talk) 23:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is to portray the information publicly available, and the available information is that her name is Kisskalt. When even the DTU uses this spelling, this is the name that should be used for her article here. There is no source that I know of that uses Kißkalt, so I argue against a change of the spelling since you cannot provide a source for it. If you have a source other than your claim to know her ID (somewhat creepy btw), please add it to change the spelling like we do with any other sources for edits. Wanquanbiantai (talk) 23:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's not creepy at all if you know her personally since she was a small child and were friends with her late father.
- I agree that almost all public sources give the spelling Kisskalt.
- There is a clue in an old tournament result (https://www.tpss.eu/results/877/RANKING%20123%20all%20DAy.pdf).
- However, only her brother Natadanai "Owen" Kißkalt's last name is spelled correctly, she herself is spelled incorrectly.
- The correct spelling can also be found on the ranking lists of the Bavarian Taekwondo Union (https://www.btu-online.de/fileadmin/btu-online.de/upload/Downloads/Zweikampf/2024/Ranglisten/Oktober/Oktober-2/BTU-Ranglisten_Senioren_20241024.pdf) and in two contributions from regional television stations from her hometown of Nuremberg (https://www.frankenfernsehen.tv/mediathek/video/flos-sportwelt-taekwondo-training-mit-anya-kisskalt/) (https://www.frankenfernsehen.tv/mediathek/video/toto-sportkabine-vom-29-05-2023/).
- I could provide proof of the correct spelling, but publishing personal documents would be really creepy. So it was just a try to correct the incorrect spelling. Alfredcm (talk) 00:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I changed the introduction, what do you think? Wanquanbiantai (talk) 12:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Wanquanbiantai
- Well, that's a compromise and like all compromises it's not ideal, but it's better than before. If Kisskalt would be indicated as the alternative spelling, then it would be completely correct, since Kisskalt is actually an alternative spelling to the correct spelling Kißkalt. Alfredcm (talk) 13:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I changed the introduction, what do you think? Wanquanbiantai (talk) 12:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is to portray the information publicly available, and the available information is that her name is Kisskalt. When even the DTU uses this spelling, this is the name that should be used for her article here. There is no source that I know of that uses Kißkalt, so I argue against a change of the spelling since you cannot provide a source for it. If you have a source other than your claim to know her ID (somewhat creepy btw), please add it to change the spelling like we do with any other sources for edits. Wanquanbiantai (talk) 23:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)