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Question

Hello, as you are certainly more fluent in table markup than the guys at the help desk, could I trouble you to take a quick look at USS Pueblo (AGER-2)#Awards? The second table is small, just four cells, but if you could center the single cell of the top row above the three-cell second row, it would be appreciated. I would also like to see the markup for future use. Thanks & Cheers - wolf 19:17, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild:  Done The key is to set the column widths to 33% each (for a 3-column table). In the top row, you hide the top border and left border on the leftmost cell and right border on the rightmost cell.

I played for a while trying to get the standard #f8f9fa wikitable background color, but was unable to do so and not have the faint ghost artifact of the hidden borders remain, so I set the table to inherit the background color of the page, which is a little more versatile than hardcoding to white, as I had done earlier. I did the same for the upper name table so they are consistent. I know there should be a way to copy the normal background color of the wikitable class (whatever it is for a given configuration; nominally #f8f9fa) for the non-empty cells, but need to explore some more. I got excited about empty-cells:hide but unfortunately it doesn't work with border-collapse:collapse :| —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:32, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Its just what I was looking for. Thanks again. - wolf 16:26, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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 Done @Adithyak1997: Thanks. BTW, in case your message was generated in an automated fashion, the closing </nowiki> and </code> tags were in the wrong order (until I reversed them) . —[AlanM1(talk)]— 11:45, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for informing the problem Adithyak1997 (talk) 12:04, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Hosahalli Ramaswamy

@2001:569:7C07:2600:8C4E:26DF:39AD:776A and 2001:569:7C07:2600:1B8:8B17:6584:E87E: I've moved this discussion to the category's talk page at Category talk:People from Baie-D'Urfé § Contested deletion. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 15:14, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

MOS boards

Loopy30 (talk) has given you some popcorn. Popcorn is crunchy goodness, and is wonderfully delicious!

To spread the goodness of popcorn, you can add {{subst:Popcorn}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message.

Loopy30 (talk) 01:37, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

@Loopy30: Thanks! That really hits the spot. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:42, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Color Vandal

Or should that be colour vandal... :-) Materialscientist blocked the current IP, I've protected every colour page the IP range edited. There must be more pages they might like, do ping if you see any more action and I'm about. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 01:17, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Tsar Bomba

AlanM1, I'm sorry about reverting your "alleged" added to the claim of largest bomb ever exploded. That does seem to be the case in all the lists of nuclear tests that I'm familiar with. At a minimum, inasmuch as such a claim is very surprising, I think it should be explained, giving at least one example (or hint, if it's that mysterious) of a larger explosion as a positive defense. Thanks. SkoreKeep (talk) 19:36, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

@SkoreKeep: I don't really like the word either, but it needs to be clear that the yield is not clear. The article is still internally inconsistent about the yield. The sentence in the lede, at least, The bomb had a yield of 50 megatons of TNT (210 PJ). is too concrete, since different sources have claimed different values. The two accessible sources cited for that very paragraph (the NIE and the S&GS paper) claim 58 MT. I don't think we can claim "is" or "was" for any of the numbers – it's more like "is thought to be" or "according to ...", no? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 21:55, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, that I can understand. I thought that someone was trying to say some other test was larger than the Tsar, that it was only allegedly the largest. The story I have is that when it was tested in secret, NATO or the US detected it and made an estimate of the yield at 57 MT based mainy on seismic data, but when the ex-Soviets wrote their history for the CIA they stated the yield was 50. Since they were on the ground at the site and had the test instrumented, their estimate was made official. Let me see if I can come up with something clever to cover it. SkoreKeep (talk) 00:48, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, I've edited the lede to provide the argument about the sizee. Review and let me know if it needss something more. SkoreKeep (talk) 01:47, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Celebritynetworth.com as a source

Hi AlanM1. I noticed that you recently used celebritynetworth as a source for biographical information in Tina Turner. Please note that the general consensus as expressed at WP:RSN is that it does not meet the reliable sourcing criteria for the inclusion of personal information in such articles. Thesun.co.uk is similarly unreliable. WP:RS/P has an entry for both. If you disagree, let's discuss it. Thanks.--Ronz (talk) 22:18, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@Ronz: Thanks for the note. It seems that any publication of someone's net worth is going to be unreliable, even (especially?) if they talk about it themselves. Other than an audited financial statement, what could be a valid source? Even someone who is a major holder in a public company has other assets and liabilities that can easily overshadow the public market value of their holdings, and even that value is speculative – the value of a large block of stock can be much higher or lower than the current price, depending on demand for it.

I guess what I'm saying is that "net worth" is inherently speculative, and readers are expected to know that; if not, should we ever write about net worth values at all, or maybe with language like "according to CNW, her net worth is $250 million"? Having said all that, I'm guessing it's been discussed somewhere (to death) – I'll have a look when I have some time to kill. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:39, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, there's quite a bit of discussion on the topic. My take away from all the discussion is to use Forbes (from Forbes staff, not contributors' articles), and occasionally a similar quality financial-news source. There's almost nothing to use unless it's some rare case of a full accounting, like an audit. --Ronz (talk) 02:55, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks anyway

Hello A. I only just figured out what was going on with my talk page. I am sorry for your experience trying to keave the pic. I do appreciate your efforts and I liked the pic of your cat. Best regards and enjoy your Sunday. MarnetteD|Talk 23:33, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi again A. I wanted to let you know that - when I was archiving my talk page last week - I figured out a way to restore the pic of your cat to the thread without taking up too much room. See User talk:MarnetteD/archive57#Cat question. As Rama was your long time companion and friend I wanted to make sure that was honored in that thread. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 20:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 21:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

You are most welcome. MarnetteD|Talk 21:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit on Channel Islands (California)

But unfortunately this guy has also done the same thing (added a Spanish-language translation of the name) on literally dozens (if not hundreds) of other pages for California place names: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Cristiano_Tomás&offset=&limit=500&target=Cristiano+Tomás — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsfinlayson (talk • contribs) 19:56, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@Rsfinlayson: Yeah – this may be a bigger issue. I had a quick look and some of it could use some discussion – not sure where, how, or when. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 12:53, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Tina Turner

Hey AlanM1. Thanks for the edit, I messed up there. I have a question regarding grammar, should the quote box say "to Larry King Live" or "on Larry King Live"? or maybe something else? I'm curious because I'm not a native English speaker. Thank you. Musicfan122 (talk) 01:53, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@Musicfan122: Hi. I think "on" is the more common usage and sounds best in that situation. "To" wouldn't be wrong, just awkward, maybe "old-fashioned", IMO. You could also leave it out, which I see in some examples for the templates:

source=— Turner, ''[[Larry King Live]]'', 1997

which yields:

— Turner, Larry King Live, 1997

Disclaimer: I'm by no means an expert, and my ear is somewhat attuned to American English.

—[AlanM1(talk)]— 12:54, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I changed it to the wording you mentioned, I agree that "To" sounds a bit off. Thanks for the feedback! Musicfan122 (talk) 17:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

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NINFO / ZS (Zone Status) DNS record

Hello AlanM1,

The RFC draft may be expired, you are correct on this.

However "without going any further." is false: the record type was actually assigned by IANA:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters/

The page List_of_DNS_record_types would be an incomplete untruthful resource without it even mentioned.

And I guess it's actually not the only officially assigned DNS RR type without an RFC.

LeoV1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.194.97.202 (talk) 00:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I've added NINFO (56) and RKEY (57) to the obsolete record types table, which has others that are allocated but not officially adopted into DNS. (Further discussion should probably be at Talk:List of DNS record types.) —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:47, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Mexico City?

Are you familiar with Mexico City? If so, I'd love to share a few images of uncategorized subjects (mostly buildings) I'm hoping someone might be able to identify. If not, no problem! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:56, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I've never been there. I responded on the WikiProject talk page. Good luck! —[AlanM1(talk)]— 06:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

No problem, was just curious Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:16, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Economy of Iran

•Hi ALANM1, Thank you for checking my edit on “Economy of Iran”. I wonder if you can explain a little more. As you have mentioned prices go up everywhere, but I, myself, was surprised to see that price of onion becomes a major issue in a country and that Radio Farda brings it up in a big heading. I just want to have your advice for my future edits. Thank you and Have a nice day. Alex-h (talk) 11:02, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

My point was that it doesn't (yet) seem like something of enough weight to deserve to be in the article. Will this be significant to general readers 5 years from now? Would it be practical to add to the article every time the price of some commodity or another doubles or quadruples, or is this something truly unusual? Will someone follow up when the price comes down, and will that rise and fall seem notable in 5 years, especially if combined with all the other similar price changes in commodities? Now, if this is truly unusual or it turns out to be the cause of an "onion revolution", that would, of course, be notable. I would expect to see multiple citable international news items about it, too. Does that seem reasonable?

P.S. Onions in Southern California are $1.30–$3.00 per kilo, depending on conditions and who knows what else. Similarly, avocados range from $0.50 to $2.00 each (and potentially much higher if our dear leader decides to stop trade with Mexico ). I don't expect to see that info in WP, except maybe in an article about the aforementioned border closing.

—[AlanM1(talk)]— 06:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your detailed reply, that was useful for me and I ‘ll try to use them in my future edits. My original intention actually was to learn from your experience which I hope to continue.
By the way you reminded me of the time I was in southern California. I miss avocado. Alex-h (talk) 13:30, 6 April 2019 (UTC)