User talk:AdrianoRutz
Welcome to Wikipedia from the Medicine WikiProject!
[edit]Welcome to Wikipedia from WikiProject Medicine (also known as WPMED).
We're a group of editors who strive to improve the quality of medical articles here on Wikipedia. I noticed that you are interested in editing medical articles, such as your edits to the article Phytochemical; it's great to have a new editor on board. In your wiki-voyages, a few things that may be relevant to editing Wikipedia articles are:
- Thanks for coming aboard! We always appreciate a new editor. Feel free to leave us a message at any time on our talk page. If you are interested in joining the project yourself, there is a participant list where you can sign up. Please leave a message on the WPMED talk page if you have any problems, suggestions, would like review of an article, need suggestions for articles to edit, or would like some collaboration when editing!
- Sourcing of medical and health-related content on Wikipedia is guided by our medical sourcing guidelines, commonly referred to as MEDRS. These guidelines typically require recent secondary sources to support information; their application is further explained here. Primary sources (case studies, case reports, research studies) are rarely used, especially if the primary sources are produced by the organisation or individual who is promoting a claim.
- The Wikipedia community includes a wide variety of editors with different interests, skills, and knowledge. We all manage to get along through a lot of discussion that happens under the scenes and through the bold, revert, discuss editing cycle. If you encounter any problems, you can discuss them on an article's talk page or post a message on the WPMED talk page.
Feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any questions. I wish you all the best on your wiki voyages! Zefr (talk) 19:32, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- The editing style for Medicine is generally similar to that for Science. See WP:MEDMOS and WP:WHYMEDRS for sourcing background. Zefr (talk) 19:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Referencing natural product chemicals
[edit]On my talk page, you said: I do not understand why you reverted all my statements. I added sourced statements to parts of the text that were discussable, often without source. The ref I added is peer-reviewed…it is not wikidata itself. The additional links to wikidata in the end were additional external links. I do not are how this can’t be relevant (taken into account what is actually on the mentioned pages is). Happy to exchange and learn how to proceed best.
- Thanks for raising this issue. As editors, we must ask "How is this source useful to the common user?" I don't see the value of PMID 35616633 (which is your own work, so please don't cite yourself, but rather find neutral reviews) or of this link, which is a WikiProject, so is not a valid source in Wikipedia. Zefr (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your prompt reply! So, regarding the usefulness for the user…at the moment their are a lot of wrong/outdated statements on those pages. I could have edited them already months ago saying, for example, « it is not 300,000, but 400,000 ». This would have been highly unhelpful to the user. I waited for my article (yes I authored it, makes somehow sense to edit what we know best instead of random topics) to be peer-reviewed and published to give the reader a source to what is written. I think it is the basis of Wikipedia. Regarding the link to the wikidata project, again I see a true added value for the user to have a direct link to a highly related project on Wikidata. It is done for Commons, why not Wikidata? Again, I am used to edit Wikidata, not Wikipedia so happy to learn how to source those at best for the user, since yes, they are helpful resources. AdrianoRutz (talk) 19:57, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Your source is likely a welcome publication for specialists in your field, but it is not easy to navigate by an interested scientist like me, let alone a high school student, as an example of a common user. Wikipedia is not a database, WP:NOT. Wikidata is not a WP:SCIRS source. Zefr (talk) 22:26, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- I updated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytochemical and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_product again, taking good care of citing a variety of sources, and kept it understandabe for a high school student, hope it is fine now. AdrianoRutz (talk) 11:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Your source is likely a welcome publication for specialists in your field, but it is not easy to navigate by an interested scientist like me, let alone a high school student, as an example of a common user. Wikipedia is not a database, WP:NOT. Wikidata is not a WP:SCIRS source. Zefr (talk) 22:26, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your prompt reply! So, regarding the usefulness for the user…at the moment their are a lot of wrong/outdated statements on those pages. I could have edited them already months ago saying, for example, « it is not 300,000, but 400,000 ». This would have been highly unhelpful to the user. I waited for my article (yes I authored it, makes somehow sense to edit what we know best instead of random topics) to be peer-reviewed and published to give the reader a source to what is written. I think it is the basis of Wikipedia. Regarding the link to the wikidata project, again I see a true added value for the user to have a direct link to a highly related project on Wikidata. It is done for Commons, why not Wikidata? Again, I am used to edit Wikidata, not Wikipedia so happy to learn how to source those at best for the user, since yes, they are helpful resources. AdrianoRutz (talk) 19:57, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikilinking
[edit]I thought I would pop by and teach you how to wikilink.
- Instead of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:WikidataIB you can type
[[Module:WikidataIB]]which is displayed as Module:WikidataIB - Instead of https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata you can type
[[:fr:Module:Wikidata]]which is displayed as fr:Module:Wikidata
Hope this helps! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:22, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Helps very much indeed, thank you! AdrianoRutz (talk) 12:27, 7 October 2022 (UTC)