User talk:77.98.111.156
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December 2024
[edit]Hello, I'm Jamedeus. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Mira Murati seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Jamedeus (talk) 03:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Mira Murati shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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- You removed my edit on the basis that it wasn't neutral. I changed the wording so that it was neutrally-worded, and yet you've deleted it again anyway. On what basis have you removed it this time? 77.98.111.156 (talk) 19:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I only reverted your first edit, the rest were reverted by 3 other editors. Your citation was actually re-added with different wording in this edit, but you reverted again anyway and created a duplicate. Jamedeus (talk) 22:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- The edit you mention was effectively hiding what she said amongst a long paragraph of pro-AI propaganda. What she said was extremely controversial, so it warranted being in a separate Controversy section. 77.98.111.156 (talk) 22:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think the edit on the article Dario Amodei also needs to be reverted, as I explained here. It lacks notability, and it seems to misrepresent what Amodei said, without additional context. I'm more uncertain about the edit on the article on Sam Altman, and a discussion on the talk page of the article on whether we want a section that presents his views may be valuable. Alenoach (talk) 00:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain why only positive information about AI is allowed on AI-related pages?
- I've looked at your editing history. Your life appears to revolve around propagandising AI, so please don't try to make out you're somehow impartial on this subject.
- Are only AI fanboys allowed to edit these pages or something? 77.98.111.156 (talk) 01:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have no conflict of interest related to AI. I don't even work with AI in my daily life, I'm an embedded software developer. Please stop your repeated personal accusations and edit wars. Alenoach (talk) 01:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Your have a gigantic conflict of interest on this subject, as your extensive pro-AI editing history clearly shows.
- You're the one going round reverting my edits on the basis that they don't concur with your fanboy view of AI. 77.98.111.156 (talk) 02:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Btw if you're an embedded software developer, why aren't you concerned about losing your job to AI? Because you will lose it. 77.98.111.156 (talk) 02:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's also what I believe, that I will relatively soon face technological unemployment. But it's not the point of the discussion. My edits are consistent with Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, and if you think they are not, you can start a discussion on the talk pages of the articles, presenting your arguments while remaining WP:CIVIL and waiting for a consensus.
- And I have no problem showing my identity in private to an admin to prove that I'm really an embedded software engineer and I have never worked for any of the companies or the people I have written about in Wikipedia, if that's the issue. Alenoach (talk) 02:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I accept that you don't work in AI. But you still have a huge conflict of interest because your editing history shows that you're a huge fan of AI. 77.98.111.156 (talk) 02:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have no conflict of interest related to AI. I don't even work with AI in my daily life, I'm an embedded software developer. Please stop your repeated personal accusations and edit wars. Alenoach (talk) 01:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- How on earth does that quote by Dario Amodei (net worth $830m) "misrepresent" what he said? He said it, so why do you object to it being added??
- Are you being paid to gatekeep these pages? 77.98.111.156 (talk) 01:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I stand by my edit summary, "cherry-picked from a long text and framed as a controversy" Alenoach (talk) 01:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is blatantly controversial. Only an AI fanboy would be incapable of accepting that. 77.98.111.156 (talk) 02:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- So in summary, you've reverted ALL OF MY EDITS because they offend your pro-AI sensibilities, and YOU'RE ACCUSING ME OF EDIT WARRING? 77.98.111.156 (talk) 02:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Definition of controversial:
- giving rise or likely to give rise to controversy or public disagreement.
- Definition of controversy:
- prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion.
- A CEO of an AI company who has a net worth of $830m saying that it "doesn't think it matters much" if people lose their ability to earn money because of the work his company is doing. That is BLATANTLY controversial.
- Do you actually dispute that? 77.98.111.156 (talk) 02:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just asked o1 the following: "is the subject of AI replacing people's jobs a controversial subject?"
- o1: Yes. Many worry about job displacement and economic disruption, while others argue AI can create new roles and boost productivity. The debate often centers on how quickly automation will transform industries and whether society can adapt in time, making it a hotly contested topic.
- You refuse to listen to me. Will you listen to your AI overlord instead? 77.98.111.156 (talk) 02:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I stand by my edit summary, "cherry-picked from a long text and framed as a controversy" Alenoach (talk) 01:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I only reverted your first edit, the rest were reverted by 3 other editors. Your citation was actually re-added with different wording in this edit, but you reverted again anyway and created a duplicate. Jamedeus (talk) 22:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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Morbidthoughts (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sam_Altman#Section_about_Mr_Altman's_views_on_AI_replacing_people's_jobs 77.98.111.156 (talk) 09:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have any consensus there to make your changes per WP:BLPUNDEL? I don't see it. Morbidthoughts (talk) 09:07, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Did you not ask me to open a topic about it on the talk page? 77.98.111.156 (talk) 09:20, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- My apologies. I was looking at User talk:77.98.111.156#December_2024 in determining whether there was consensus. Morbidthoughts (talk) 09:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. 77.98.111.156 (talk) 09:35, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- My apologies. I was looking at User talk:77.98.111.156#December_2024 in determining whether there was consensus. Morbidthoughts (talk) 09:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Did you not ask me to open a topic about it on the talk page? 77.98.111.156 (talk) 09:20, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have any consensus there to make your changes per WP:BLPUNDEL? I don't see it. Morbidthoughts (talk) 09:07, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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