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Happy editing! HiLo48 (talk) 22:21, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Jean, Grand Duke of Luxembourg

Howdy,

The point being made by the revision was that Montgomery was in command of the 21st Army Group (an army group controls multiple field armies), and Dempsey controlled the 2nd Army (a formation made up of several field corps). Simonds was a corps commander (in turn made up of several divisions), who played an important role in the final battles around Caen. Their German counterparts are the same, they controlled army groups, field armies, or played important roles in the fighting around Caen. These men all have ranks of major-general or above. This is who is generally listed within the commander and leader section of the infobox, unless the scope of an article is about something at a much smaller level. For example, the Battle of Long Tan that lists an Australian captain and major in the infobox as leaders.

In comparison, Jean was a captain. This is about five steps below Simonds. He is lost within a sea of hundreds of men at a similar level, who took part in the Caen fighting, and did not exercise the same level of control as those listed in the info box. He was also formally part of the British Army, and placed within a British Army battalion (multiple battalions form a brigade, multiple brigades form a division). He was not leading a Luxembourg contingent. The contingent itself was an artillery troop (a troop being several times smaller than a battalion) that formed part of the Belgian Brigade Piron, who didn't land until after the fighting at Caen ended. He was famous and notable for sure, although he did not become grand duke until way after the war, but - for the lack of better wording - he is insignificant within the scope of the article. While Luxembourgers fought during the Battle of Caen, their military did not. This is why you see them listed within the belligerent column of say, Operation Overlord (which covers all the fighting in Normandy, which the Luxembourg military did take part in), but not for the Battle of Caen.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:12, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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