User:Pldx1/Korean Litterature

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About the Draft:Seo Joon-hwan

The Draft:Seo Joon-hwan can be used as a comparison point for a discussion about the Inhyeon wanghu jeon. This opinion (I agree with it) was stated 9 October 2020 by UUser:Piotrus, on the UUser:Primefac's talk page. Thanks for pinging me... and be kind to follow here, since, indeed, this is only a part of the discussion of a larger situation !

This Draft:Seo Joon-hwan as been submitted by UUser:Minheepark33 on 11:23, 27 September 2019‎, and was never edited by her afterwards (her is here a generic pronoun, since there are 27 hanja with the reading "min" and 25 hanja with the reading "hee", while the Min-hee page can be used to suggest that 1/3 of the people going with this given name are handball players, and another 1/3 are actresses).

On 7 October 2019, this submission has been rejected to the limbo, waiting for the required 6 months before being destroyed as "unworthy" of the glorious Encyclopedia. And guess what was the reason given by the Galactic Revizor, patrolling on her proverbial dead horse ? does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. From the beginning, there were 13 (thirteen) footnotes in this article.

The counterpart of this "Draft" on LTI is https://library.ltikorea.or.kr/node/41374, last update, 2019/11/22. There are big differences between them:

LTI use a 3 lines spacing between paragraphs, and DWP only one.
DWP line 001 adds: (Korean: 서준환)
The 13 references in LTI are rather using text [nn]. while the 13 references in DWP are using text. [nn]

And there are no other differences.

Concerning the notability, one can argue between slightly above the threshold and slightly below. Taking the context into account, better say acceptable than unworthy. In any case, the very idea that LTI could have stolen this rejected draft from here, only to thereafter translated it into Korean is... somewhere between amusing and pityfull.

Major AFC failure at Korean literature (action is needed, now)

Executive summary: ALL the 16 pages submitted as Drafts by User:GoldenAlpha77 must be validated and published (see the list at User_talk:GoldenAlpha77.

For the sake of brievity (!) let us focus on the first of these pages. As an author, Yu_Sun-ha has been reviewed -inter alia- in Kwon Young-min (2004-02-25). 한국현대문학대사전 [Korean Contemporary Literature Dictionary]. Seoul National University Press. ISBN 9788952104618. This dictionary itself is described at "Book.naver.154489"..

For those who know nothing about Kwon Young-min, this guy is born in 1948 in Boryeong, Chungnam. After graduating from Seoul National University, he received a doctorate in literature from the same U, and served as a visiting professor at Harvard University in the United States and a visiting professor in Korean literature at Berkeley. He has won the Contemporary Literature Critic Award in 1990, the Kim Hwan-Tae Critic Award in 1992, and the Manhae Awards in 2006, as well as the Seoul Arts and Culture Awards. Currently, he is a professor of Korean literature at Seoul National University. Clap your hands: Harvard and Berkeley! W.E. can be reassured, this guy (the critic] is quite an U.S. since he was an assoc.prof. at two places we can locate on a map.

As can been read at https://terms.naver.com/entry.nhn?docId=333659&cid=41708&categoryId=41737, the critic says: Yu Sun-ha, born in Kyoto, Japan on August 30, 1943. In 1968, the play "Everyone Anyone" was awarded the Rookie of the Year Award. The novel "Heomang and Pian" was awarded the Rookie of the Year Award in the Korean Literature in 1980, and the Fairy Tale "Time Bank" was elected as the Rookie of the Year in 1986. He [Yu Sun-ha] maintains a critical view of the docile real society, and is known as an artist who pays attention to the shabby and deceptive but solemn problem of survival [etc. And a large list of books follows].

But, like as in a mirror, the en:wp article about Yu_Sun-ha is engulfed in a shabby and deceptive problem of survival. Its author, User:GoldenAlpha77, should have read the policy, as stated at Wikipedia:Why create an account?. The policy says: Once you have had an account for about 4 days and have made at least 10 edits, you will be allowed to start new articles, rename pages, or upload images. Therefore, except when a COI exists, the genuine process is (1) register, (2) make some gnomish edits to football.porn.whatever articles, there are ever blank spaces to add or to remove. (3) Wait four full days. (4) Publish your article. And you are done.

But User:GoldenAlpha77 has been derailed into submitting her 16 (sixteen) articles on Korean literature to an unnecessary process. As a result quite all of these articles are on the verge of destruction: the so-called reviewers have quite recused the whole series. And when repeteadly pointed to their errors, they are keeping to wait for the deadline instead of correcting their poor moves. Seeing In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia, as stated by User:Liz on the talk page of the precious one who has written sixteen great pages for this encyclopedia... is what is unsuitable.

As a resume: admit you were wrong and publish. Now. Pldx1 (talk) 13:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

imprimatur nihil obstat

Pattern 1: women.

An Heon-mi has been accepted. Woman born 1972.
Yeom Seungsuk has been accepted. Woman born 1982.
Dongmyeong ilgi (Travelogue of Dongmyeong) has been accepted. The book was written in 1772 by Lady Uiyudang (1727–1823).
Sohn Won-pyung has been accepted. Woman born 1979.
Draft:Memoirs of Lady Jo of Pungyang. This Jagirok 자기록 was written by Lady Jo of Pungyang 豊壤趙氏, 1772-1815. It seems that the revizor missed the obvious pattern of the four acceptations.

Pattern 2: novels from Injo's period.

Draft:Choecheokjeon (최척전 The Tale of Choe Cheok). The book was written in 1621 by Jo Wi-han (趙緯韓, 1567–1649)
Draft:Hwamongjip (A Collection of Romance and Dream Journey Stories). Compiled during Injo reign,
1. “Jusaengjeon” (周生傳 The Tale of Jusaeng),
2. “Unyeongjeon” (雲英傳 The Tale of Unyeong),
3. “Yeongyeongjeon” (英英傳 The Tale of Yeongyeong),
4. “Dongseonjeon” (洞仙傳 The Tale of Dongseon), aka “Dongseongi” (동선기)
5. “Mongyudalcheonnok” (夢遊㺚川錄, The Dream Journey of Dalcheon Pyeongya), aka “Dalcheonmongyurok” (달천몽유록)
6. “Wonsaengmongyurok” (元生夢遊錄 The Dream Journey of Scholar Won),
7. “Pisaengmyeongmongnok” (皮生冥夢錄 The Dream Journey of Gentleman Pi), (only 6 lines have survived)
8. “Geumhwayeonghui” (金華靈會 The Meeting of Spirits at Geumhwasa Temple), aka “Geumsansamongyurok” (one page is missing)
9. “Gangnojeon” (姜虜傳 The Tale of Gang Hong-rip).

Pattern 3: myths.

Pattern 4: Korean writers of nowadays

Draft:Seong Mi-jeong. full copy of the English https://library.ltikorea.or.kr/node/41375
Draft:Yoo Juhyun. full copy of the English https://library.ltikorea.or.kr/node/233
Draft:Yu Chin-O deleted
Draft:Yu Sun-ha. full copy of the English https://library.ltikorea.or.kr/node/41379

Draft:Eom Won-tae. Article recused by User:Whispering arguing this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes, while the draft contains 16 (sixteen) of them.