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RFC on template usage for US political parties

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Should this template (a modified version of the political party infobox) be used on US political party pages? (previous attempt at seeking a consensus) RiverMan18 (talk) 14:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This template is a modified version of the infobox political party template which emphasizes the political party color more. It was created following an earlier RFC about political party disc logos which can be found here in which the general consensus was to remove the disc logos (symbols based on a common template used to identify parties which were almost all unofficial and created by editors, not the parties themselves).

One of the things that I took away from that RFC was that political party color might be a better way to identify parties in a “standard” way instead of the election discs. This template is the result—it emphasizes party color more than the previous template, as can be seen here. (I’m sorry that no documentation is currently up).

Yes, I probably shouldn’t have made this page—I’m sorry. The reason it exists in a space that is not a sandbox is because I put the template up on minor political party pages earlier, but removed them after an editor informed me that I should seek a consensus before putting them up. I’m sorry—I’m still relatively new to Wikipedia.

A secondary question for this RFC is this: Should political party color be emphasized more (ex. in election pages) to identify political parties? (For example, we could place the party name in election ticket tables in a fully colored table cell, with the text color adjusted to make it more legible).

Thanks! RiverMan18 (talk) 15:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pulling the {{rfc}} tag for the simple reason that WP:RFCBEFORE has clearly been ignored. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:53, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFC is back up—the link to the previous attempt at seeking a consensus has been added. RiverMan18 (talk) 17:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: There is no reason why American parties should be presented differently from other parties. Party colors are already displayed well in the infobox, and adding a large colored area over the name is ugly. The template is redundant to a better-designed template (WP:TFD#REASONS#2) and should be deleted, like the old Template:Infobox American political party. Wowzers122 (talk) 17:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although party colors are already displayed, I personally think they could be displayed better—they are barely visible. In addition, this is not just for American political parties—it is merely a variation of the current template (I couldn’t figure out how to put the box as an option on the main template, although there might be a way to do it.)

Sorry. RiverMan18 (talk) 18:35, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment As far as I can tell, you just copied the existing template and made the banner color the background for the title instead of a border box? I think the original is better. Applying colors as a background has potential WP:ACCESSIBILITY issues (reduced contrast with lighter colors). OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That was the change I made—personally, I think that it emphasizes the color more and could be used to further emphasize the color. Would you be ok with the template if I could somehow combine it with the current template with the option to change it from having colored borders to a colored box?

On the area of WP:ACCESSIBILITY issues, there is an option in the template to change the text color for better contrast. If that’s not what you’re concerned about, please let me know so I can address it.

Thanks! RiverMan18 (talk) 15:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a compelling reason to change the existing template. We don't need different templates for every country, and the current border colors are fine. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok—thanks. I just feel like this emphasizes the color more and could be a good replacement for the loss of disc logos.

PS: I did find a way to change the regular Infobox political party template so that we could insert a bit of code and, if you enter a value for a new variable (“background”) it will show the box instead of the borders. This way we wouldn’t need the new template—we could just edit the current template without having to edit any of the articles. RiverMan18 (talk) 16:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Color

I feel like we should only use election symbols officially used by the the parties, but I also feel like the discs are helpful at displaying color. I do not feel like it is ugly, I actually quite like them. If they are based off of the official party logos, that is fine in my view. But if there never was official imagery, like for the American Whig party in the 1800s, we shouldn't use them. Jayson (talk) 15:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m sorry—I thought that you wanted to get in on another discussion. The conversation about the disc logos already ended—they’re gone (although they aren’t gone from Wikipedia altogether—I still have most of them up on my user page). I’m sorry. RiverMan18 (talk) 16:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ohhhh ok Jayson (talk) 00:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]