The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:15, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Overall: This is a nice article, which is new enough, long enough and well sourced. I am taking the offline sources in good faith. However, I have an issue with the hook which is not directly supported by the source. The source says that the two tribes hunt the bird for bushmeat and decorate their headgear and houses with its feathers and beaks. In another place it just says that "the gizzard of the hornbill was used in some local medicines for curing stomach disorders," but nowhere is this stated as a belief of those two tribes. So it needs to be amended to reflect the source. Alternatively there are some "fascinating facts" at the Oakland Zoo source that could be used, noting that they use a different English name, but the same Latin one. That name, Malayan wreathed hornbill, should perhaps be included in the lede. Also I wonder if the existing alternative name should just be bar-pouched hornbill as per the same website? Bermicourt (talk) 13:57, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback, Bermicourt! Re the gizzard : true is that it is not stated in any source that the local people believe .., but only that they use it for curing stomach problems. So I wonder whether the hook should / can be changed to either a) that they use it as medicine, or b) to a different hook altogether, e.g. something about the bird itself : that it flies up to some 25 km from its breeding site in search of favoured fruits, much farther than any other hornbill species. I didn't add this info yet, but can do if you think it worthwhile?
Re the name "Malayan wreathed hornbill" : Blanford (1889) seems to have been the first and only one who used this name, but I haven't seen this in any other publication yet. – BhagyaMani (talk) 21:44, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks also to @Casliber: for DYK nominating this page!! – BhagyaMani (talk) 21:44, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I think this article is worthy of a DYK, but you need to come up with one or two alternative hooks. I'm sure there's plenty of material for that - it's an interesting bird! Bermicourt (talk) 09:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Please let me know whether you think a 3rd hook is needed? And if so, I suggest to add flock size as 2nd. – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:51, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
I think both work and marginally prefer the second hook. IMHO this is now GTG. Bermicourt (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
This is a nice article, which is new enough, long enough and well sourced. I am taking the offline sources in good faith. However, I have an issue with the hook which is not directly supported by the source. The source says that the two tribes hunt the bird for bushmeat and decorate their headgear and houses with its feathers and beaks. In another place it just says that "the gizzard of the hornbill was used in some local medicines for curing stomach disorders," but nowhere is this stated as a belief of those two tribes. So it needs to be amended to reflect the source. Alternatively there are some "fascinating facts" at the Oakland Zoo source that could be used, noting that they use a different English name, but the same Latin one. That name, Malayan wreathed hornbill, should perhaps be included in the lede. Also I wonder if the existing alternative name should just be bar-pouched hornbill as per the same website? Bermicourt (talk) 13:57, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
I think both work and marginally prefer the second hook. IMHO this is now GTG. Bermicourt (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2021 (UTC)